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 PMX jangan iktiraf UEC, DAP ke UMNO pemegang telur paling kuat

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talexeh
post Dec 11 2025, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 11 2025, 10:34 AM)
But those study uec usually wants to further study at Taiwan la, but when their marks too poor and Taiwan reject, they end up no where to go lel
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No, that was quite an archaic impression that those who took UEC for the sole reason of furthering their study in Taiwan. Perhaps Namewee’s notoriety has contributed to such general perception.

QUOTE(cheryee @ Dec 11 2025, 10:36 AM)
STPM pun susah nak dapat tempat kat IPTA, let alone UEC (if being recognised).

Also, those who pergi CIS, why are they aiming IPTA??? Tak paham 🤦‍♀️
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Quite a number of UEC students actually opt to take SPM in their 5th year. So yes, some do still aim for IPTA. You do realise that not everyone who studies in CIS are T20s right?

QUOTE(fufu_80 @ Dec 11 2025, 11:05 AM)
Even after recognize UEC... u think got place for the candidate in local U meh? LPPL... usually take UEC all is rich rich go oversea study ma rite?
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Not everyone in CIS are T20s.

QUOTE(jojolicia @ Dec 11 2025, 11:08 AM)
This.
I too tak faham. You take uec/ cis you follow that pathway la
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Refer to my reply to cheryee above.
talexeh
post Dec 11 2025, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(fufu_80 @ Dec 11 2025, 11:40 AM)
i rasa this is poor planning.. study half way then opt back to SPM... if wan to stick to SPM/STPM... shoudl start from the begininng.... my 2 cent....  cool2.gif
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There are various reasons why some parents enrolled their kids into CIS. In most cases, I would say that the decision comes from the parents & not the students themselves.

While I don't claim to represent all CIS parents, these are the common reasons:

1) Perceived deterioration of quality of education in SMK / SMJK. The abolishment of UPSR & PMR / PT3 gave the impression that students are no longer assessed closely & UASA is not a fair assessment in assigning students to the relevant secondary control schools.

2) The ever-changing policy of DLP where science & math are being taught in English spooked some of the parents. For example, just a year ago, 11 SMJKs in Penang were taken to task for not allocating a class where science & math are taught solely in BM. No parent is going to volunteer to have their kids being allocated that particular class.

3) CIS instills better discipline & some put high emphasis in building noble characteristics not only during schooling hours but also at home. Teen years are when kids can get rebellious & go off track so having someone to reel them in is a welcomed aspect.

4) UEC is perceived to be harder than KBSM. For those in SMK / SMJK, their only route is to take SPM but for UEC students, they have options by the 5th year. having options are always a good thing.

5) Since nons are already at an disadvantage due to the limited quota to enter matrikulasi & how STPM has very limited space allocated in UPU, parents don't how CIS is any different compared to SMK / SMJK. However, in the even that Edumin somehow removed the inequality (fat chance), parents still have 5 years to consider having their kids "return"' to the SPM route.

These are just some of the conversations that I've had with CIS parents throughout the last few years.
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post Dec 11 2025, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 11 2025, 02:33 PM)
This, really only those Cina bukit rednecks care.

Another thing is many people dunno secondary Chinese vernecular schools smkc exist. Those at new village lagi lah tak ada. So most lowly educated Cina bukit will instead get lead to believe u either go smk study lousy education with malays and your kid later lunch at toilet or u go study uec

Problem is uec not cheap, it's a private school and many these Cina bukit are poor. Worst when their kids say want further study at Taiwan lol.

Those say can choose spm or uec, cmon la, u pay so much d for uec education, then last min change back to spm, a qualification which is cheap cheap one? Of course you they dowan la. U expect the kids to choose? At 17yo kids are still fucking dumb about the real world la
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Many people didn't know the existence of SMJK? How many glasses of ketum have you taken today?

How much is UEC fees per month by the way?

QUOTE(Srbn @ Dec 11 2025, 03:01 PM)
Actually, Chinese do not like PMX is because of the e invoice, many taxations, and the silence on the J@mal, and PM of Palestine

UEC is not the priority.

Many Chinese also do not understand what is the UEC. 

Why the politicians think UEC recognition can help Chinese society?

DAP better help to get other thing which give more benefit to Chine society.
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Because it's in their manifesto before they got into power. Now that Sabah has pressed their panic button so by hook or by crook they have to show the Chinese that they're capable LOL.

This post has been edited by talexeh: Dec 11 2025, 03:32 PM
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post Dec 11 2025, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(youngblood29us @ Dec 11 2025, 03:24 PM)
Can someone make me understand why some group want UEC to be recognised?as far as I know half of type C look down on gomen uni and gomen jobs..so I seriously don’t understand..what am I missing?
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You're missing the fact that every damn year, there are nons STPM graduates complaining about them being overlooked even when they scored excellent results.
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post Dec 11 2025, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 11 2025, 05:59 PM)
Just because you know, doesn't mean everyone know. You would be surprised many dunno.  You think every town has a smkjc? Let me pick for you dumb idiot la, Sungai petani has a lot Chinese do they have smkjc? How about Teluk intan? Jenjarom new village? Sg pelek? Tanjung sepat? Johor Bahru got? So if you idiot don't know what's the reality of really poor uneducated Cina, best you shut the fuck up.
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So what actually were you trying to spin? Earlier on, you claimed that some rural Chinese weren't aware of the existence of SMJK. Now you're saying some areas don't have SMJK. Maybe try to stick to a single narrative instead of going roda impian on me?

As a matter of fact, I've stopped by SP a lot when I was studying in UUM. There's SMJK Sin Min there but perhaps it has disappeared based on your testimony.

Whether a Chinese parents aware or not of the existence holds no water anyway. SMJKC is no different than a SMK other than the addition of the Chinese language subject but somehow you make it sound like it's an extension of SJKC where the medium of teaching is still in mother tongue language kek.

And why do you conveniently evade the question on how much is the UEC fee which you claimed to be exorbitant?

Maybe keep calm & don't koyak just because people call out your BS?

This post has been edited by talexeh: Dec 11 2025, 08:02 PM
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post Dec 11 2025, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 11 2025, 06:16 PM)
Akmal jahil aka ignorance. DAP responded

https://m.malaysiakini.com/my#google_vignette
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I believe you copied an incomplete URL.
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post Yesterday, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 13 2025, 07:59 PM)
But can afford uec fees of 4-5k per year for 11 years?
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11 years of UEC kek.

Somehow the person who barked the loudest is always the one that knew the least what they were barking about in the first place.

 

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