
LIFE - 56.2 kWh, 140 kw DC, 361 KM WLTP
DESIGN - 67.1 kWh, 168 kw DC, 434 KM WLTP
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Leapmotor B10 Launch - starts at RM100k, habislah eMas 7, Atto3
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![]() LIFE - 56.2 kWh, 140 kw DC, 361 KM WLTP DESIGN - 67.1 kWh, 168 kw DC, 434 KM WLTP This post has been edited by DogeGamingPRO: Dec 10 2025, 10:54 AM gobiomani liked this post
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nama B10 tapi harga tidak sesuai B10
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need to be b10 only can afford
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Leapmotor can't sell Their C10 Dsegment SUV price at cheaplak RM120k also nobody buy CX5 Csegment RM150k CRV Csegment RM160k 7x Dsegment RM170k Model Y Dsegment RM200k Too bad yhtan and max_cavalera liked this post
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Who know if they exit Malaysia
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Heard their AC charging 11kw ac.
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I think the B10 model... suitable for muah... because muah Bottom 10.... Currently.
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test drove c10, not bouncy like proton emas 7
i guess the b10 would be the same, the least bouncy ev car you can buy but the card key cacat betul, and also the phone app to unlock car also cacat and stellantis leapmotor is having a hardtime worldwide sooooo need to expect the worst scenario like chery last time |
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It seem like the NFC must tap, but can the paired mobile phone work like eMAS 7 fob? i.e unlock when approaching? Otherwise the spec really is in some cases better then e.MAS 7 or some minor trade offs. contagiouseddie liked this post
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 10 2025, 11:09 AM) The do the same pricing as chinaRMB99k in china sell here RM99k Margins are fat contagiouseddie liked this post
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C10 also no one buy, want launch B10
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 10 2025, 12:01 PM) test drove c10, not bouncy like proton emas 7 Leapmotor doing well in motherland. i guess the b10 would be the same, the least bouncy ev car you can buy but the card key cacat betul, and also the phone app to unlock car also cacat and stellantis leapmotor is having a hardtime worldwide sooooo need to expect the worst scenario like chery last time Just stellantis probrem wonly global market. See how they would fare in mesia. But this b10 is competitively priced and spec. MGS5 sure gg edi. This one way better. 🔥🔥🔥 |
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 10 2025, 11:24 AM) It seem like the NFC must tap, but can the paired mobile phone work like eMAS 7 fob? i.e unlock when approaching? test drove the c10, was considering to get it, but decided not to, they're so desperate they even loan me the car for 2 daysOtherwise the spec really is in some cases better then e.MAS 7 or some minor trade offs. i believe b10 should behave the same nfc reader is only on the driver-side mirror, if you exit from the driver’s side and walk to the passenger side the door auto-locks again because of the timer — so everything becomes double work inside the car, every time you shift into park, you must place the nfc card on the reader again just to engage drive the nfc reader is in the same spot as the wireless phone charger, so you have to ensure the charger is off or your nfc card will get damaged the phone app is also very cacat. To unlock the door, you need to: 1.Open the app 2.Tap “Unlock” 3.Key in your password so many steps and again, you still need to enter your password to engage drive mode bluetooth proximity unlock drains iPhone battery like crazy, and even with it enabled, you still have to type and retype your password I don’t mind typing a password for drivemode — that’s acceptable for security — but maybe not so many times? — like the car know you exist and re-entered then only need password on top of that, all the ADAS features reset every time the car goes into park, so you have to turn them off manually every single time. they promised a future update to fix the ADAS settings, but for now it’s just annoying, proton emas 7 only have 1 or 2 to turn off. the pros is plenty of backseats leg room and not bouncy like emas 7, it's still a bouncy soft suspension feels like pudding car if the price is the same as emas 7, just buy the emas 7 gobiomani liked this post
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 10 2025, 11:46 AM) Leapmotor doing well in motherland. byd sales now gg ady and they are the 1st place most gg, and leapmotor is on the 3rd place, it's on the newsJust stellantis probrem wonly global market. See how they would fare in mesia. But this b10 is competitively priced and spec. MGS5 sure gg edi. This one way better. 🔥🔥🔥 |
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 10 2025, 12:04 PM) test drove the c10, was considering to get it, but decided not to, they're so desperate they even loan me the car for 2 days Seems like the nfc/phone app implementation is kinda dodgy. And havig to take out the card to engage drive feels outdated when even ICE cars can just keep fob in pocket to drive. Which is a shame as it's really competitive. i believe b10 should behave the same nfc reader is only on the driver-side mirror, if you exit from the driver’s side and walk to the passenger side the door auto-locks again because of the timer — so everything becomes double work inside the car, every time you shift into park, you must place the nfc card on the reader again just to engage drive the nfc reader is in the same spot as the wireless phone charger, so you have to ensure the charger is off or your nfc card will get damaged the phone app is also very cacat. To unlock the door, you need to: 1.Open the app 2.Tap “Unlock” 3.Key in your password so many steps and again, you still need to enter your password to engage drive mode bluetooth proximity unlock drains iPhone battery like crazy, and even with it enabled, you still have to type and retype your password I don’t mind typing a password for drivemode — that’s acceptable for security — but maybe not so many times? — like the car know you exist and re-entered then only need password on top of that, all the ADAS features reset every time the car goes into park, so you have to turn them off manually every single time. they promised a future update to fix the ADAS settings, but for now it’s just annoying, proton emas 7 only have 1 or 2 to turn off. the pros is plenty of backseats leg room and not bouncy like emas 7, it's still a bouncy soft suspension feels like pudding car if the price is the same as emas 7, just buy the emas 7 As for ADAS, e.MAS 7 has been updated so that the most annoying one, speed limit warning, can be set to display only. Now just need to finally release Android Auto. gobiomani liked this post
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B40 pls look at P1 P2 ICE only EV need minimum M40 to play Kekwa |
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 10 2025, 12:12 PM) Seems like the nfc/phone app implementation is kinda dodgy. And havig to take out the card to engage drive feels outdated when even ICE cars can just keep fob in pocket to drive. Which is a shame as it's really competitive. yup the no key fob is the major downsideAs for ADAS, e.MAS 7 has been updated so that the most annoying one, speed limit warning, can be set to display only. Now just need to finally release Android Auto. |
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QUOTE(contagiouseddie @ Dec 10 2025, 12:20 PM) yes, they told me if i'm dissatisfy with c10 can wait for b10, pay booking now then test drive the car once availableand on the same day instantly delivery if pay cash on the same day, only wait 1/2 hours can instantly drive away but b10 also this stupid no key fob nfc and app only, which is the main problem if the bluetooth proximity unlock doesn't drain iphone battery like crazy, that would be the best senario go near the car, the car auto unlock This post has been edited by junsheng: Dec 10 2025, 12:27 PM |
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 10 2025, 12:26 PM) yes, they told me if i'm dissatisfy with c10 can wait for b10, pay booking now then test drive the car once available Even if the phone approach works, it must be able to use on 2 or more phone like wife want to use the carand on the same day instantly delivery if pay cash on the same day, only wait 1/2 hours can instantly drive away but b10 also this stupid no key fob nfc and app only, which is the main problem if the bluetooth proximity unlock doesn't drain iphone battery like crazy, that would be the best senario go near the car, the car auto unlock max_cavalera liked this post
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 10 2025, 12:26 PM) yes, they told me if i'm dissatisfy with c10 can wait for b10, pay booking now then test drive the car once available So bluetooth key is phone key (proximity)and on the same day instantly delivery if pay cash on the same day, only wait 1/2 hours can instantly drive away but b10 also this stupid no key fob nfc and app only, which is the main problem if the bluetooth proximity unlock doesn't drain iphone battery like crazy, that would be the best senario go near the car, the car auto unlock keycard only give one keping (wtf) mobile app virtual key is also phone key (masuk app click unlock) mechanical key is just one batang physical key for emergency? ![]() |
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full spec is same price like qve. in fact, all these c segment not far from qve. really bungkus qve
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QUOTE(acbc @ Dec 10 2025, 12:45 PM) lol leapmotor sells more cars than Xpeng, Li motor etc.Backed by stellantis gobiomani liked this post
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From the spec sheet, phone Bluetooth entry pun driver side only. Macam P1 and P2 lower end cars only. In Malaysia, if side parking mostly on we park on the left hand side same as the direction of road. So, sometimes you just want to put something or retrieve something or put your child on rear left hand side first before going to the driver side. Take out phone, take out card, ini semua recipe untuk dirompak dulu sebelum masuk kereta. I thought only B40 cars do this, sebab itu nama pun B10.
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 10 2025, 10:30 AM) Leapmotor can't sell Just bought one... maciam sudah sold out... next year doing long range for RM15k more I heard from SA.Their C10 Dsegment SUV price at cheaplak RM120k also nobody buy CX5 Csegment RM150k CRV Csegment RM160k 7x Dsegment RM170k Model Y Dsegment RM200k Too bad Not sure why sorhai go buy CRV and CX5... if you charge at home, 11kw is fast enough... not many will use DC charger since expensive like petrol. No need pay premium for 7x or Sealion 7 la... EV all more or less same unless you go for performance model but roadtax will be expensive as fark. gobiomani liked this post
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QUOTE(contagiouseddie @ Dec 10 2025, 01:21 PM) From the spec sheet, phone Bluetooth entry pun driver side only. Macam P1 and P2 lower end cars only. In Malaysia, if side parking mostly on we park on the left hand side same as the direction of road. So, sometimes you just want to put something or retrieve something or put your child on rear left hand side first before going to the driver side. Take out phone, take out card, ini semua recipe untuk dirompak dulu sebelum masuk kereta. I thought only B40 cars do this, sebab itu nama pun B10. I think they design to use with phone... Tesla inspired (copy cat)...Just that sometimes it takes a while to detect and unlock automatically. Normally I just walk to my car (c10) and if it doesnt unlock, then I press the button on the door handle. If hot day, you can use the app to prep the car to cool down first before you start walking to your car. I only bring 1 rfid card in wallet just as precaution if phone battery ran out or malfunction. |
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 10 2025, 12:12 PM) Seems like the nfc/phone app implementation is kinda dodgy. And havig to take out the card to engage drive feels outdated when even ICE cars can just keep fob in pocket to drive. Which is a shame as it's really competitive. Sudah cakap you want to use card or bluetooth also can... but have to key in password if use bluetooth... you need to wait for it to boot first lor but since EV auto on AC once you unlock, not much problem.As for ADAS, e.MAS 7 has been updated so that the most annoying one, speed limit warning, can be set to display only. Now just need to finally release Android Auto. C10 main problem is no android auto or carplay. Only can mirror your phone. If you are bothered with this, then B10 is your only choice. |
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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Dec 10 2025, 12:50 PM) Leapmotor is consistently in China Top 10 mthly sales with average 70k units sold/mth. gobiomani liked this post
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 10 2025, 01:37 PM) Sudah cakap you want to use card or bluetooth also can... but have to key in password if use bluetooth... you need to wait for it to boot first lor but since EV auto on AC once you unlock, not much problem. When other EVs don't need to take out anything to unlock car for most situations, that's a downside.C10 main problem is no android auto or carplay. Only can mirror your phone. If you are bothered with this, then B10 is your only choice. |
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Dec 10 2025, 01:40 PM) Different priorities... I see many brands prio white interior which is not only expensive but also not ideal for those like me who worked in factory. Also some of them prio flashy LED, motorised door opening like owner cacat cannot open or close door by themselves. I prefer a simple vehicle, A-to-B, less accessories = less maintenance in future. Even opt for rear wheel drive so that wont have CV joint problem in future. |
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 10 2025, 01:44 PM) When other EVs don't need to take out anything to unlock car for most situations, that's a downside. What do you mean? You dont need the rfid card to open the door. If the app works, it unlock automatically as you walked near. You can change the detection zone if it is not very effective. Even if that failed, you just need to press the button on the door to unlock if you already paired your phone. |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 10 2025, 01:47 PM) What do you mean? You dont need the rfid card to open the door. If the app works, it unlock automatically as you walked near. You can change the detection zone if it is not very effective. Even if that failed, you just need to press the button on the door to unlock if you already paired your phone. That's what I meant when asked earlier, can the phone work like other cars fob. But it seems like still need key in passcode when driving, which for me is a downside, but this is a balance of security vs convenience, so that's up to taste. |
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 10 2025, 01:51 PM) That's what I meant when asked earlier, can the phone work like other cars fob. But it seems like still need key in passcode when driving, which for me is a downside, but this is a balance of security vs convenience, so that's up to taste. Password is annoying for sure. They should have improved on that, like principal account does not need to key in password. At least losing the phone doesnt mean you will lose your car too. Honestly I dont find it annoying... however, the most annoying is you have your phone in your pocket, tells your wife you go to pick up something. Later wife call and ask you to remote unlock the car. This post has been edited by andrekua2: Dec 10 2025, 01:55 PM |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 10 2025, 01:53 PM) Password is annoying for sure. They should have improved on that, like principal account does not need to key in password. At least losing the phone doesnt mean you will lose your car too. Yeah, that's annoying for sure. This NFC + Phone Combo got popularized by Tesla, but I think even they sell/provide keyfob as an option.Honestly I dont find it annoying... however, the most annoying is you have your phone in your pocket, tells your wife you go to pick up something. Later wife call and ask you to remote unlock the car. |
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 10 2025, 02:08 PM) Yeah, that's annoying for sure. This NFC + Phone Combo got popularized by Tesla, but I think even they sell/provide keyfob as an option. Well, just add your wife as supp account lor. Then she can use the app to unlock the car.Not a big problem for me as I always had 2 phones with me. |
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 10 2025, 10:30 AM) Leapmotor can't sell Actually, for the C10 they were too ambitious with their pricing at the beginning. They priced it at 150k initially when e.Mas 7 was indicated at 120k. I would have bought it for 130k but since they insisted on 150k, many people booked the Proton instead. So they hardly sold any. Now they are selling it for 125k but the competition is a lot stiffer now at the same price range. It also had some major flaws with no AA/CP and the stupid NFC card BS.Their C10 Dsegment SUV price at cheaplak RM120k also nobody buy CX5 Csegment RM150k CRV Csegment RM160k 7x Dsegment RM170k Model Y Dsegment RM200k Too bad |
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 10 2025, 10:30 AM) Leapmotor can't sell Before they drop the C10 to RM120k, sales is only single digit, after drop to RM120k, sales naik sikit to 50-100 vehicles.Their C10 Dsegment SUV price at cheaplak RM120k also nobody buy CX5 Csegment RM150k CRV Csegment RM160k 7x Dsegment RM170k Model Y Dsegment RM200k Too bad QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 10 2025, 12:04 PM) test drove the c10, was considering to get it, but decided not to, they're so desperate they even loan me the car for 2 days i find card more susah to store and find, i prefer key fobi believe b10 should behave the same nfc reader is only on the driver-side mirror, if you exit from the driver’s side and walk to the passenger side the door auto-locks again because of the timer — so everything becomes double work inside the car, every time you shift into park, you must place the nfc card on the reader again just to engage drive the nfc reader is in the same spot as the wireless phone charger, so you have to ensure the charger is off or your nfc card will get damaged the phone app is also very cacat. To unlock the door, you need to: 1.Open the app 2.Tap “Unlock” 3.Key in your password so many steps and again, you still need to enter your password to engage drive mode bluetooth proximity unlock drains iPhone battery like crazy, and even with it enabled, you still have to type and retype your password I don’t mind typing a password for drivemode — that’s acceptable for security — but maybe not so many times? — like the car know you exist and re-entered then only need password on top of that, all the ADAS features reset every time the car goes into park, so you have to turn them off manually every single time. they promised a future update to fix the ADAS settings, but for now it’s just annoying, proton emas 7 only have 1 or 2 to turn off. the pros is plenty of backseats leg room and not bouncy like emas 7, it's still a bouncy soft suspension feels like pudding car if the price is the same as emas 7, just buy the emas 7 |
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 10 2025, 02:50 PM) Actually, for the C10 they were too ambitious with their pricing at the beginning. They priced it at 150k initially when e.Mas 7 was indicated at 120k. I would have bought it for 130k but since they insisted on 150k, many people booked the Proton instead. So they hardly sold any. Now they are selling it for 125k but the competition is a lot stiffer now at the same price range. It also had some major flaws with no AA/CP and the stupid NFC card BS. No AA/ACP on their infotainment? Some more the stellantis brand which carry in Pijot has tarnished their image for the past 1-2 decades gobiomani liked this post
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 10 2025, 11:01 AM) test drove c10, not bouncy like proton emas 7 Actually the MG S5 is the best handling car for this segment, not bouncy. The C10 didn't handle well also despite the Maserati tuning BS claim.i guess the b10 would be the same, the least bouncy ev car you can buy but the card key cacat betul, and also the phone app to unlock car also cacat and stellantis leapmotor is having a hardtime worldwide sooooo need to expect the worst scenario like chery last time Leapmotor is doing very well globally. Stellantis has been very good in Malaysia since they took over from Bermax and they also plan to CKD this model. |
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Actually a lot of people are hating on Stellantis for no reason. They just came in to take over like 2 years ago, before that Nasim (Naza) and Bermax are the ones who destroyed the Peugeot brand in Malaysia with their really bad SC support. Since Stellantis came in they have solved a lot of issues for existing Peugeot owners although for some case the owner already suffer too long so it was too late for them. Also, the newer Peugeot models are very good and reliable IMO, only issue is spare part prices are still high. yhtan liked this post
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 10 2025, 02:54 PM) Actually the MG S5 is the best handling car for this segment, not bouncy. The C10 didn't handle well also despite the Maserati tuning BS claim. but mg didn't sell much cars in malaysia, later bankruptLeapmotor is doing very well globally. Stellantis has been very good in Malaysia since they took over from Bermax and they also plan to CKD this model. |
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 10 2025, 06:38 PM) True, their marketing totally fail. They have good cars but hardly anyone knows about them. I really like their cars though, will probably buy a used one in the next few years.SAIC and MG are doing well in PRC and globally so I think can still get parts in the future but don't know whether they will survive long in MY. |
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 10 2025, 12:04 PM) test drove the c10, was considering to get it, but decided not to, they're so desperate they even loan me the car for 2 days Thanks for sharing these feedbacks.i believe b10 should behave the same nfc reader is only on the driver-side mirror, if you exit from the driver’s side and walk to the passenger side the door auto-locks again because of the timer — so everything becomes double work inside the car, every time you shift into park, you must place the nfc card on the reader again just to engage drive the nfc reader is in the same spot as the wireless phone charger, so you have to ensure the charger is off or your nfc card will get damaged the phone app is also very cacat. To unlock the door, you need to: 1.Open the app 2.Tap “Unlock” 3.Key in your password so many steps and again, you still need to enter your password to engage drive mode bluetooth proximity unlock drains iPhone battery like crazy, and even with it enabled, you still have to type and retype your password I don’t mind typing a password for drivemode — that’s acceptable for security — but maybe not so many times? — like the car know you exist and re-entered then only need password on top of that, all the ADAS features reset every time the car goes into park, so you have to turn them off manually every single time. they promised a future update to fix the ADAS settings, but for now it’s just annoying, proton emas 7 only have 1 or 2 to turn off. the pros is plenty of backseats leg room and not bouncy like emas 7, it's still a bouncy soft suspension feels like pudding car if the price is the same as emas 7, just buy the emas 7 Crazy to think how much manufacturer have go to "sell technology" by complicating car opening n drving. I think keyless entry method of ICE is the best. Juat open the door. No need to take out hp, car or other nonsense things. |
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 10 2025, 07:04 PM) True, their marketing totally fail. They have good cars but hardly anyone knows about them. I really like their cars though, will probably buy a used one in the next few years. i think price is the major factor, with no track record in malaysiaSAIC and MG are doing well in PRC and globally so I think can still get parts in the future but don't know whether they will survive long in MY. no matter how you spent on marketing it's not going to help much if they lower their price and make it seems more worth it than proton emas 7 then they might sell better |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 10 2025, 02:50 PM) Before they drop the C10 to RM120k, sales is only single digit, after drop to RM120k, sales naik sikit to 50-100 vehicles. key fob is the easiest, don't know why leapmotor keep insisting on not including iti find card more susah to store and find, i prefer key fob because from the start 2024 many people from other countries including malaysia already said their nfc implementation is dumb |
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 10 2025, 07:04 PM) True, their marketing totally fail. They have good cars but hardly anyone knows about them. I really like their cars though, will probably buy a used one in the next few years. SAIC ride the wrong horse, selecting Tan Chong which many of their sales person sudah jump ship because of declining in Nissan salesSAIC and MG are doing well in PRC and globally so I think can still get parts in the future but don't know whether they will survive long in MY. MG also not so aggresive in term of marketing The only CCP brand aggresive is Chery group, they really dump a lot of money for marketing and seem a lot of people keep promoting around. BYD ride on Sime Darby distribution network. QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 10 2025, 08:05 PM) key fob is the easiest, don't know why leapmotor keep insisting on not including it Copy pasta from Tesla but doing it half past 6 because from the start 2024 many people from other countries including malaysia already said their nfc implementation is dumb gobiomani liked this post
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QUOTE(saiga @ Dec 10 2025, 08:02 PM) Thanks for sharing these feedbacks. actually they can make the experience easier, by implementing apple home keyCrazy to think how much manufacturer have go to "sell technology" by complicating car opening n drving. I think keyless entry method of ICE is the best. Juat open the door. No need to take out hp, car or other nonsense things. or allow the user to choose less secure option by just walking near the car then the car unlock and straight drive away but i guess you can't expect too much from them |
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 10 2025, 02:54 PM) Actually the MG S5 is the best handling car for this segment, not bouncy. The C10 didn't handle well also despite the Maserati tuning BS claim. Comparing a sedan vs suv??? Apalah... honestly being my first suv, I think the suspension is a bit above my expectation. A bit stiff but holding up well... probably those 20inch tyres play its part as well. Most suv would have thicker tyres to absorb bumps and ride more comfortably.Leapmotor is doing very well globally. Stellantis has been very good in Malaysia since they took over from Bermax and they also plan to CKD this model. |
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 10 2025, 10:07 PM) actually they can make the experience easier, by implementing apple home key I just notice 2 dealbreaker for this car.or allow the user to choose less secure option by just walking near the car then the car unlock and straight drive away but i guess you can't expect too much from them 1. Linglong tyres 2. Oversensitive ding dong ding dong non stop safety alert… the same issues with leapmotor c10 gobiomani liked this post
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QUOTE(saiga @ Dec 10 2025, 08:02 PM) Thanks for sharing these feedbacks. When you read feedback from non-owner, obviously you are gonna get the wrong picture.Crazy to think how much manufacturer have go to "sell technology" by complicating car opening n drving. I think keyless entry method of ICE is the best. Juat open the door. No need to take out hp, car or other nonsense things. Ways to unlock car: 1. card tap on driver side mirror 2. using app... there are 3 options... a)unlock as you approach b)press the button on driver (both unlock and lock) c) lock as you leave... also can choose the detection zone to be more or less sensitive. 3. using app... this have to load the app, and click unlock/lock You have to set the mandatory 4 digits password to enable drive mode. Everytime you get out of the car (say leaving the car but with phone and passenger in the car), then came back, you have to enter password. Slightly annoying but a security feature. If you are not fancy of entering password, then just use the app for unlock/lock... the use card to enable drive mode. This way you do not need to set password. Like they explained, you are not forced to use password but it is just a convenient way to share your car among family members without needing the physical card. |
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 10 2025, 10:52 PM) I just notice 2 dealbreaker for this car. For no2, you can use the steering shortcut... set a preferred drive mode and disable the lane keeping + speed limit warning. Have to do it everytime though... it seems like they have enable the function to off distraction warning all the time. 1. Linglong tyres 2. Oversensitive ding dong ding dong non stop safety alert… the same issues with leapmotor c10 You still have to deal with back passenger seatbelt, AEB (if you decide to keep it on). |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 10 2025, 10:47 PM) Comparing a sedan vs suv??? Apalah... honestly being my first suv, I think the suspension is a bit above my expectation. A bit stiff but holding up well... probably those 20inch tyres play its part as well. Most suv would have thicker tyres to absorb bumps and ride more comfortably. MG S5 is SUV right? Not MG5 lul that’s different |
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 10 2025, 07:04 PM) True, their marketing totally fail. They have good cars but hardly anyone knows about them. I really like their cars though, will probably buy a used one in the next few years. Yes, they don’t even know their strengths and hitting blind with the pickleball marketing, KEKSAIC and MG are doing well in PRC and globally so I think can still get parts in the future but don't know whether they will survive long in MY. They should explain who are they (both MG and SAIC) and how they’re likely going to stay not bankrupted for coming 10 years (at least for outside Malaysia). Next they should go all out pit MG5 against the oldie B-seg sedan like City/Vios. Also, how much cheaper and faster to drive MG4 vs Cibik. |
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QUOTE(msacras @ Dec 10 2025, 11:15 PM) With all the update and facelift coming every now and then, I dont think I can remember them all... I only compare and test drove 2 (c10 and seal 6) before making the purchase. The initial impression is that they were all more or less the same, but I would give the BYD the slight edge due to the braking implementation that was quite similar from an ICE car. The brakes on the C10 imo is either too strong (comfort braking off) or too soft (comfort braking on). I did have to drive with one pedal mode for few days to get used to the sensitive brake pedal. After driving EV for whole week, my feet is getting really light on throttle now and when I go back to driving my ICE car, I was able to drive at 30kmh now (foot on accelerator)... something that was impossible for me before this. |
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 11 2025, 12:07 AM) this is the older C10 with 7kw ac charging... I wonder if these are leftovers or test drive car... I saw one in leapmotor c10 fb group for just RM90k... gobiomani liked this post
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Dec 10 2025, 12:45 PM) Janji price war! T and H (and even P2) can't even compete now. Reverse camera still need add on rm3k? A proper SUV at rm99k. That will only get you a compact sedan or hatchback from H (144p reserve camera optional extra)For too long Malaysian has been taken for a ride for paying Yahoodi prices and enriching AP Holders! QUOTE(contagiouseddie @ Dec 10 2025, 01:21 PM) From the spec sheet, phone Bluetooth entry pun driver side only. Macam P1 and P2 lower end cars only. In Malaysia, if side parking mostly on we park on the left hand side same as the direction of road. So, sometimes you just want to put something or retrieve something or put your child on rear left hand side first before going to the driver side. Take out phone, take out card, ini semua recipe untuk dirompak dulu sebelum masuk kereta. I thought only B40 cars do this, sebab itu nama pun B10. Same like emat7 also la. Touch sensor only on driver side, very annoying as I need to seat my son at passenger side first. |
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 10 2025, 08:03 PM) i think price is the major factor, with no track record in malaysia The MG S5 is better than the emas 7 in everything except for size. The ride and handling is very good, its RWD and the interior is really high quality like VW unlike the MG4 which was very basic. It does not make sense to sell it cheaper than emas 7 but right now they do have year end promo so it is probably the same price as emas 7. However, most people don't know this car even exists.no matter how you spent on marketing it's not going to help much if they lower their price and make it seems more worth it than proton emas 7 then they might sell better QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 10 2025, 10:47 PM) Comparing a sedan vs suv??? Apalah... honestly being my first suv, I think the suspension is a bit above my expectation. A bit stiff but holding up well... probably those 20inch tyres play its part as well. Most suv would have thicker tyres to absorb bumps and ride more comfortably. See, their marketing so bad most people don't even know that the MG S5 exists and it is an SUV. |
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QUOTE(marvinben @ Dec 11 2025, 07:58 AM) T and H (and even P2) can't even compete now. Reverse camera still need add on rm3k? A proper SUV at rm99k. That will only get you a compact sedan or hatchback from H (144p reserve camera optional extra) Actually yeah, the emas 7 keyless entry is also a bit cacat one. The touch sensor only on one side and the key detection also mostly works on driver side only, passenger side some times can detect but most times cannot. I have had 2 cars from 2014 and 2015 which did keyless entry better than most cars right now, and they were not even premium cars. Dunno what is so difficult to implement keyless entry properly.Same like emat7 also la. Touch sensor only on driver side, very annoying as I need to seat my son at passenger side first. |
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 11 2025, 10:51 AM) Actually yeah, the emas 7 keyless entry is also a bit cacat one. The touch sensor only on one side and the key detection also mostly works on driver side only, passenger side some times can detect but most times cannot. I have had 2 cars from 2014 and 2015 which did keyless entry better than most cars right now, and they were not even premium cars. Dunno what is so difficult to implement keyless entry properly. Cant ask for much. End of the day it's a budget SUV in China. Marketed as young people first car. max_cavalera and gobiomani liked this post
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 10 2025, 11:46 AM) Leapmotor doing well in motherland. Anyone selling a half crappy car in China will sell well. Their population is huge. U sell them a lousy car , put in some lcd screens, ambient lighting , ppl will buy as long as its cheap. Even 1% of the population buy ur cars also u are good to go already.Just stellantis probrem wonly global market. See how they would fare in mesia. But this b10 is competitively priced and spec. MGS5 sure gg edi. This one way better. 🔥🔥🔥 |
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Dec 11 2025, 10:56 AM) Anyone selling a half crappy car in China will sell well. Their population is huge. U sell them a lousy car , put in some lcd screens, ambient lighting , ppl will buy as long as its cheap. Even 1% of the population buy ur cars also u are good to go already. You are talking out of your ass without knowing the facts. You probably never saw any statistics about CN car sales before. There are hundreds of car companies in CN most of them are new and almost all of them are failing. Leapmotor is not one of them. They are in the other end of the spectrum, meaning they are one of the few who will succeed. |
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 11 2025, 10:46 AM) The MG S5 is better than the emas 7 in everything except for size. The ride and handling is very good, its RWD and the interior is really high quality like VW unlike the MG4 which was very basic. It does not make sense to sell it cheaper than emas 7 but right now they do have year end promo so it is probably the same price as emas 7. However, most people don't know this car even exists. nah, two of the most obvious stuffs that's inferior is the audio speakers, the soundproofing and the under powered 125kw electric motorSee, their marketing so bad most people don't even know that the MG S5 exists and it is an SUV. that infotainment is using a slower chip, which can cause apple carplay android auto to lag even in wire mode also interior rattle one of my friend brought it, so i know also if i'm not mistaken the electric motor and high woltage wire is just like leapmotor b10 no plastic cover leaving it exposed to the elements This post has been edited by junsheng: Yesterday, 12:37 PM gobiomani liked this post
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 11 2025, 12:35 PM) nah, two of the most obvious stuffs that's inferior is the audio speakers, the soundproofing and the under powered 125kw electric motor Bro, emas 7 is front wheel drive leh... thats why u can see more things at the front... probably thats why out of space to cover nicelythat infotainment is using a slower chip, which can cause apple carplay android auto to lag even in wire mode also interior rattle one of my friend brought it, so i know also if i'm not mistaken the electric motor and high woltage wire is just like leapmotor b10 no plastic cover leaving it exposed to the elements |
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Dec 11 2025, 10:56 AM) Anyone selling a half crappy car in China will sell well. Their population is huge. U sell them a lousy car , put in some lcd screens, ambient lighting , ppl will buy as long as its cheap. Even 1% of the population buy ur cars also u are good to go already. You think 100-150k cars from Japanese brands better?LPPL la... if want nice interior, go buy Germans. Obviously if you even compare them, most are running almost the same specs. At this point, its like a off the shelf system you can buy and customize your dashboard and door panel to fit those lights, camera and adas system. Even the GUI is more or less same. Honestly I never understand the needs for luxury dashboard etc in the car. The most important is the seat ergonomics and space. Everything else came 2nd. |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 11 2025, 12:56 PM) Bro, emas 7 is front wheel drive leh... thats why u can see more things at the front... probably thats why out of space to cover nicely emas 7 no undercarriage cover also no problem, cause the electric motor is not mounted very near to the groundwhen your rear wheel drive electric motor is mounted so near to the ground, without plastic cover won't it get gg fast? c10 got plastic cover why b10 don't have? This post has been edited by junsheng: Yesterday, 01:42 PM |
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 11 2025, 01:11 PM) emas 7 no undercarriage cover also no problem, cause the electric motor is not mounted very near to the ground I can confirm that emas 7 has undercarriage cover and you are right, the motor position is not that low. when your rear wheel drive electric motor is mounted so near to the ground, without plastic cover won't it get gg fast? c10 got plastic cover why b10 don't have? B10 don't have cover beneath the motor? That is indeed worrying. |
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Later charging station got queue 5 hour, how? cannot 'no queue' anymore.
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 11 2025, 11:11 AM) You are talking out of your ass without knowing the facts. You probably never saw any statistics about CN car sales before. There are hundreds of car companies in CN most of them are new and almost all of them are failing. Leapmotor is not one of them. They are in the other end of the spectrum, meaning they are one of the few who will succeed. Guess ur not familiar with china market. Tons of them are failing because there are so many shitty companies in china just trying their luck. Anyone can be a car manufacturer in China . All mostly plug & play. U choose ur parts and u just assemble the car. Those are the ones that fail. The bigger ones all do a lil bit if R&D and have their mega factories. China population is simply too big. U can throw some half baked product in the market and it will sell a few million units. Have a better product like Xiaomi or BYD and the volume will be huge. But their cars are nowhere near as good as the Japanese. China cars are just well specced, but the core fundamentals are lacking. contagiouseddie liked this post
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 11 2025, 01:03 PM) You think 100-150k cars from Japanese brands better? Jap cars have never ever been about nice interiors. Its all about the drive. Go see toyota GR cars all have old fashion interiors but the drive is fantastic. Even the new R35 also has an old design interior. Same goes to the type R and Supra. Jap cars focus on the core fundamentals of a car, not some lcd screen or ambient light. LPPL la... if want nice interior, go buy Germans. Obviously if you even compare them, most are running almost the same specs. At this point, its like a off the shelf system you can buy and customize your dashboard and door panel to fit those lights, camera and adas system. Even the GUI is more or less same. Honestly I never understand the needs for luxury dashboard etc in the car. The most important is the seat ergonomics and space. Everything else came 2nd. contagiouseddie liked this post
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Dec 11 2025, 08:59 PM) Guess ur not familiar with china market. Tons of them are failing because there are so many shitty companies in china just trying their luck. Anyone can be a car manufacturer in China . All mostly plug & play. U choose ur parts and u just assemble the car. Those are the ones that fail. For example which new car manufacturer or model can sell few millions unit except BYD,Geely, SAIC, Chery and GWM?The bigger ones all do a lil bit if R&D and have their mega factories. China population is simply too big. U can throw some half baked product in the market and it will sell a few million units. Have a better product like Xiaomi or BYD and the volume will be huge. But their cars are nowhere near as good as the Japanese. China cars are just well specced, but the core fundamentals are lacking. As i know China is a cut throat market, even the German brand has to slash price to survive there. |
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Dec 11 2025, 09:03 PM) Jap cars have never ever been about nice interiors. Its all about the drive. Go see toyota GR cars all have old fashion interiors but the drive is fantastic. Even the new R35 also has an old design interior. Same goes to the type R and Supra. Jap cars focus on the core fundamentals of a car, not some lcd screen or ambient light. Bro, focus on the price first... if money is not your limiting factor, you can buy anything. |
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