Collapsing upwards kut. Meanwhile Macaroni say EU industry will die if China dont buy more from them xD

Cukur, can help offset massive inflation around the world.

But at what cost

money sucking machine :X

1 trillion trade surplus but millions of ordinary citizens are poor and hungry without work.

China been in recession since 2021. Now should be bottoming out.

can Malaysia get that much? if not ta shut up

Well they need to accumulate more now, because one day they might have to deal with the effect of a balanced trade when the west all gang up and forcefully boycott all exports from China, then they will have to settle for only manufacture for internal consumption as well as other nations who are willing to buy due to lack of capabilities, such as some consumer products like TV etc that many nations are unable to make themselves even if they try.

There are two market segments:

The west, which does have the knowledge and capabilities to create their own products, but choose to rely on China because it is cheaper. This market segment can choose to bite the bullets and boycott all exports from China, and work among themselves to create the same products even though they will be more expensive. The most likely outcome is the rich will get even richer while the middle class and the poor will get even poorer at the end. But it is their freedom so they can freely choose this outcome.

The others, which does have the knowledge and capabilities to create some of their own products. One simple example is TV, not every nations on Earth can create their TV on their own even if they try. It is simply cheaper to buy from other countries, and China is likely going to be the cheapest. Even very common gadgets like smartphone will be a challenge for many nations. China advantages is its sheer size and hence economy of scale dwarf everyone else.

Even if both the markets all work together to totally boycott all exports from China, China can still settle for making products for own consumption only. The populations in China is same as all the western countries including EU and USA and Canada and Australia plus Japan and South Korea combining together. So it is a huge market. In a total boycott environment, things will be weird though. Due to China has low currency value, their products being sold internally will be far cheaper than similar products being sold elsewhere in the world. Anyway, that's just a hypothetical situation since it has not happened.



This post has been edited by vhs: Dec 10 2025, 12:09 AM

Not since 2020?

money not spent in country? give mykasih?
this why usd always high, countries keep giving loan to usa.

Yes, China has historically used its massive trade surplus (earning lots of US dollars) to buy bonds
, primarily U.S. Treasury bonds, as a safe, high-yielding investment for its foreign reserves, though its holdings have fluctuated and shifted in recent years. China accumulated vast dollar reserves from exporting more to the U.S. than it imported, and investing these dollars in safe U.S. debt was a key strategy for its central bank.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/inves...asury-bonds.asp

AI Overview
The US dollar maintains a consistently high value primarily because of its role as the world's dominant reserve currency and the perception of the United States as a stable and reliable economic power. Other countries, including their central banks and private investors, buy U.S. debt (Treasury securities) as a secure investment and to facilitate global trade.

This post has been edited by Phoenix_KL: Dec 10 2025, 01:50 AM

Doubt anyone can challenge China which is already the factory of the world. Moreover China is a major trading country with many countries, suicidal to boycott.

More or less.

Not sure why Western think China economy is bad when there are plenty of homeless in USA. Homeless mean cannot afford a shelter and unlikely to be contributing to its economy.

China risk is more to depopulation whereas smaller working population need to support oldies. This situation need at least a generation to turnover but reducing marriage count is harming it

Transition phase from western hegemony to a multi-polar world with chaina in the lead.

Saw a certain greenbird liked the comment without knowing the possible context. Let me correct it for better clarity

Then there is this contradictory report that many ccp graduates cannot find jobs

Everyone in the world has been fooled by CCP. They already planned ahead of time all matters. CCP never collapse but gain momentum. People didn't think they built new silk road, borrow money to built & give loan to other low IQ country trapped then to suffer later. Sri Lanka is the start sooner indon, next African. They grab the country land & suck those resources from behind. LoL.

not even a year already 1 trillion+ surplus?
looks like trump tariffs flop

Most likely from other nations though.

now dump products to eu. if eu raise tariffs, next dump to africa?

The situation happening in China alone?
It is worldwide phenomenon with AI arrival
Improved efficiency need eliminated plenty of entry level job
SG hit badly with it too

Artificial dumping

I think k/tard still very naive in economics

Do you know supplies can be bump up and false demand can be create?

Normally the impact of goods price increase due to short supplies.
What is the clear example of short supplies which impact worldwide quality of life? Oil

But CCP did the opposite way aka dumping
Most ppl happy due to low price but after some timeframe the local area business ecosystem will have the worst impact.

isnt this contradictory to the statement less working young people to support aging population? as AI/automation involved and less human power is required

But how come the unemployment rate is about 5%?

If you read mainstream media, they only report about youth unemployment but they don't really mention the country's unemployment rate

The issue is not really no jobs but the graduates can't find the jobs they want. Most don't want to do the blue collar jobs anymore.

This is why China is investing so much on AI and robotics

Kindly clarify which part contradictory?

not enough young ppl

not enough jobs for young ppl

Both are true right?
Not enough young people to support aging population and at the same time reduced job for fresh grad

Many thought china without US market will die lol

It takes years to replace a supply chain. Prc will likely to post enormous trade surplus in the next few years.

If not enough young people, how can there be not enough jobs?

There are jobs but not the jobs youth want

It's like us too. No one want to do blue collar jobs

since 1990.

BRI help create new markets for China products in Africa, central Asia, Middle east, LatAm and SEA.

It is totally 2 case which u confused
1st statement is not enough young ppl to support oldies through taxation
2nd statement is job for entry level is reducing with AI. SG hit with same situation now.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/today/big-r...workers-5449836

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=108992597

And if China suceeds in advancing their AI & Semicon technology n industries they will rule the world's manufacturing. Most other countries will only survive as being their raw material suppliers cos they r just uncompetitive.

Can you even replace the supply chain? Where can take over China's role?

at one point europe countries asking china if you keep having surplus we no longer got money to trade with you.

and everyday say china collapse.

Tariff, etc could shift price competitiveness.

Given time and resources, almost everything is replaceable. it not necessary to replace prc by one country but could be by a few countries.

prc current situation is like japan in the 1990's. prc may have trade surplus but domestic consumption may be depressed for a few decades.


This post has been edited by icemanfx: Dec 11 2025, 11:16 AM

China is a top trading country with many other countries, doubt they dare to impose tariffs, except US.
THis time is different from 1990s, cos of AI, robotics, automation, and China is very strong in these..
China is also a powerhouse in infrastructure building, ship building & transport that few can compete.
China is also strong in renewable energy sector esp Solar and Nuclear.

Where is this guy sudah senyap

Industry and engineering is not static or fixed, it evolve overtime.

I recall the same things was said about Japan dominance in semicon, electronics and cars back in the 90s.

Guess Europe don't have the capability to start the 3rd opium war this time

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...HQvEH5SPxFMkkHP
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...4hPrlZY76Juqzkl

Not just that. PRC's tunnel drilling > France.
France fked up big time when they chose not to co-op with PRC on that. Forcing PRC to R&D and now leave France in the dust on tunnel drilling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br4hnOEr1a4...er5Hh4_B2FsHB-w

30624770
Even better vid.

You guys seriously have to check out Louis-Vincent Gave 's (French) vids. He is so underrated.

Steve Hsu (Murican) is the guy on the left.

This post has been edited by Meis: Dec 11 2025, 04:05 PM

I remember seeing this from US politicians using hammer to smash JP's stuff in front of the white house.
Few Japanese Americans got killed in this.

search:
"us politician smash made in japan 80s"

Murica - Anti-Japan
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...2JZW9QnvGdvp-Pi

This post has been edited by Meis: Dec 11 2025, 03:06 PM

He's still grifting hard.
But now dare not talk about China collapse liao, cos too ridiculous.

Now he complains about China's military growing too fast, until spreading into outer space, and how America (who started this "war" in the 1st place) doesn't know its in a war. I guess he's just preparing excuses for when America loses to China in the near future.

"blame the slave labour worker ants"

meanwhile in msia the cream cropper white collar worker working 18-hour night shift can only afford poco phone

search "Hakim" vids
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...Emd3h9CHPWVIyNX

How Rich Countries Rob The Poor; The Failure of Social Democracy


Why Do Poor Countries Stay Poor? (Unequal Exchange and Imperialism)

He's a real patriot okay, thanks to him blinding the Americunts China can reach where they are today faster

Time? China took decades to develop their supply chain until today

Resources? How much China and the world spent to develop supply chain in China

Do you think the world going to build another supply chain and spend billions developing it? Where?

A trillion Dollar Surplus: China helps the world

Ever heard of China +1? They now have factories across asia, if ban china, their proxy ready.

2ndly, angmoh will not able to produce.

The only way to against china is all angmoh become monks and don spend.

China will suffer but not die.

How a $1 Trillion Surplus Is Reshaping Global Trade

Why America's Global Trade War Failed To Work - Louis Vincent Gave
by Keith Yap


What is Socialism with Chinese Characteristics? This is how China's economic model works

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...HQvEH5SPxFMkkHP
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...4GULvggGK8DlIYz



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