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sadukarzz
post Yesterday, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(monodevil @ Dec 5 2025, 12:56 PM)
i log in my account just to praise how mature of you in answering and responding to other forumer. Hope more forumer like u to have constructive discussion  thumbsup.gif
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Thank you for the encouragement, it really helps me to understand why people says the things they say and do the things they do

And I am still far from being great, still learning and constantly reminding myself I too can be biased and wrong

I will carry this on and hopefully one day able to serve my community beyond just the small things on a daily basis


QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ Dec 5 2025, 01:18 PM)
i'm not her supporter nor dap voter. fyi, i'm even part of warisan b4 this.

urban chinese only giving blind support to warisan and causing east coast of sabah losing a lot of tangible benefits from the govt bloc YBs.

capable reps should be based on merit, not based on party. on this part, clearly u do not know how to play along.

there's always a grey area, not just either u with me or hate me. if u dont believe what i said, go ahead and join politics to learn it.

hopefully my pessimistic is wrong and warisan will bring the 40% back.
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When you say that blindly giving support to Warisan does that take into account of the macro view where they are rejecting "Malaya" based parties?

You might be right that I don't know how to play along yet, as I am learning on which one comes first

Party? Or candidate? If the party loses, does the party have to change their view to "win first plan later"? If the candidate loses because of the party, does the candidate sulk? Or just do the good that many may say useless and wasteful work.

I agree that there is a grey area, and I don't hate or like any candidates / party

Because people come and go, people change

That's why there are people around us that constantly help remind who we are and continuously shape who we become

At least that's what I think

Nevertheless, I appreciate your sharing. Truly. Perhaps you can tell me more about your experience in politics particularly Warisan. What was working and what didn't work, and eventually led to your pessimism?
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post Yesterday, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 5 2025, 11:38 AM)
Hmmm, if I were to follow your range in terms of evaluation (making good on track in 5 years from 0 experience),

You gotta ask me back after 5 years, otherwise, it would be unfair don't you think?

But if you ask me based on past years, Tanjung Aru did see fair bit of improvements those that at least that I know of

- Tanjung Aru state library is well maintained and promoted, garnering tourist attraction
- Reported and supervised a few (those that I know of) water pipe bursts near sunny mart and surrounding area
- Brought up road maintenance for tanjung aru area
- Supported night market establishment in Aeropod
- Fight for Genset fee
- Supported DBKK move the parking for beach1&2 relocate (but I gotta say the food court could have been done better)

These are done while they are not part of the government, so credits where its due

But on hindsight, can you shed some light into what Vivan has done so far for Elopura? I genuinely want to know more, no sarcasm.
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I can’t say for sure on Junz Wong’s contribution to TA as I’m not residing there but from comments from many locals, he’s not the most competent rep. You can’t just pin all these towards his achievements as I believe many were initiatives from DBKK. Likewise I can’t put the blame on him for the ongoing closure of Perdana Park, can I? Anyway TA is a highly controversial area when sentiment on major developments are being played. I remember the mega projects from Musa’s time as CM yet to kick off until now he has became TYT, entering the 4th government in charged.

Anyway coming back to the contribution of saudari Vivian in SDK, you can google an article from FMT on basically Can Warisan meet the Chinese expectation in Sabah?

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sadukarzz
post Yesterday, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(sankai80 @ Dec 5 2025, 04:14 PM)
I can say for sure on Junz Wong’s contribution to TA as I’m not residing there but from comments from many locals, not the most competent rep. You can’t just pin all these towards his achievements as I believe many were initiatives from DBKK. Likewise I can’t put the blame on him for the ongoing closure of Perdan Park, can I? Anyway TA is a highly controversial area when sentiment on major developments are being played. I remember the mega projects from Musa’s time as CM yet to kick off until he has became TYT, entering the 4th government in charged.

Anyway coming back to the contribution of saudari Vivian in SDK, you can google an article from FMT on basically Can Warisan meet the Chinese expectation in Sabah?
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Yeah, definitely you are not wrong but I acknowledged that earlier part hence didn't say he built / led to building thereof etc

I believe your comments from locals there also would then add on - Still better than Ed Yong from the earlier days when AirAsia was still operating from the other LCC terminal; I too would agree

But party sentiment definitely helped him out quite a bit there

About Vivian vs Warisan, I too cannot say for sure whether Warisan can meet the expectations of Chinese community, but what I do know is, Chinese community is pretty much educated voters, and they would able to adjust for the expectations for reps that are not in government.

Now, should that rep able to meet their expectations in Warisan, then unfortunately DAP will be out for a long time. But otherwise, then the lack of representation or joining the winning boat (Lol) will start to eat into their mindsets.

Of course, all that will only stand, if Warisan is able to deliver at least - Pressuring the federal government on the implementation of 40% revenue on top of the existing MA63 issues.

*on top of that, actually Vivian should be in a vantage point now, could be a strong factor for her if she plays her cards right

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post Yesterday, 05:33 PM

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masa mau ppl vote say "i'm adun/ahli parlimen for all".. when lose some,immediately sourgrape

also the person asking could be the one who voted for her in pru&prn
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post Yesterday, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(boystyle @ Dec 5 2025, 05:33 PM)
masa mau ppl vote say "i'm adun/ahli parlimen for all".. when lose some,immediately sourgrape

also the person asking could be the one who voted for her in pru&prn
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you got proof to backup this statement?
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post Yesterday, 06:00 PM

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Betul la dia cakap. Kasi can la adun buat kerja.
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QUOTE(zidane28 @ Dec 5 2025, 02:38 PM)
Yes...But wouldn't it be better if we package the truth in a better presentation way instead of "nah ambil kau siapa suruh tak undi aku" kinda way?

Even something like "So sorry to hear this happened under my parliament seat, I will inform the new elected DUN on this. But as a kind reminder, this kind of issue is more to DUN responsibility, hence if next time this issue arise again is more suitable that to contact DUN." sounds better isn't it?

Instead, nah, you makan cili right? Let the truth hurt you la.
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So what you're saying is protect feelings over accountability? That's why Malaysia will always be in this state.
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post Yesterday, 06:29 PM

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Wrong answer amoi....you should say...says akan umum kepada adun Sandakan tentang kerisauan anda....seterusnya, sika telefon nombor xxxxxx office adun untuk apa risau tentang lubang jalan.....

Not avoid deflect and correct rakyat because u no do anymore.....lapsap politic taichi....
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Dec 5 2025, 10:48 AM)
Langkawi was his baby. Poured billions into it to make it a tourist destination. All those years of hard work, they just abandon him because he not the 'in' thing anymore.

Lost deposit mind you, not even number 2 or 3. Really nobody remembers your jasa when you're no longer in power.
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This is seisohai analogy which is so many wrong here.

Ppl kenang his jasa actually hence when he come out for vote in Langkawi during tolak Najib. All ppl supporting him.

Problem is he didn't tunaikan janji terus main resign then backdoor government. Actually he betrayed ppl first so he been kicked out during second time election.

His case is pandan mukak. No sympathy given
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post Today, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(RS42 @ Dec 5 2025, 06:15 PM)
So what you're saying is protect feelings over accountability? That's why Malaysia will always be in this state.
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That's like saying as long as I'm right, suka hati aku nak reply what ever tones I want, to hell with others (which is rakyat) feelings.

What's wrong conveying a message in a nice and curated way?

Why want to achieve one only when you can achieve both actually?
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Ultimate respond would be to pass the relevant info to the new Adun, like passing the baton of responsibility, also letting the rakyat know you are passing the info, make it 3 times at least if the new Adun ignores.
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post Today, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(heaven @ Dec 6 2025, 09:41 AM)
Ultimate respond would be to pass the relevant info to the new Adun, like passing the baton of responsibility, also letting the rakyat know you are passing the info, make it 3 times at least if the new Adun ignores.
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There shd be a handover period la, like work also. Don’t simply taichi and wash hands.
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Dec 6 2025, 09:43 AM)
There shd be a handover period la, like work also.  Don’t simply taichi and wash hands.
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Yeah, in this case, the previous Adun should have responded more professionally.
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QUOTE(heaven @ Dec 6 2025, 09:56 AM)
Yeah, in this case, the previous Adun should have responded more professionally.
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It’s still the same adun, she didnt manage to wrestle the adun seat.

Basically she’s been doing both jobs as MP. But those voters expect the same service after they voting in the oppo lol






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QUOTE(zidane28 @ Dec 4 2025, 06:11 PM)
Well the answer is correct, but at this sensitive juncture the way she answer only make her a sour grape.
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Better she comment, ok noted. Thanks for info. To make the job 2nd thing
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post Today, 10:20 AM

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Kalau semua pergi suruh Adun & MP turap jalan. JKR tak payah keja la. Untung ni..
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post Today, 10:26 AM

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Now I know why she do so. Haha
New warisan YB claim credit for job done by previous DAP YB. biggrin.gif

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/17QD573dLG/

GPT Translation:

Tham Yun Fook, hello. Sorry to bother you. We just want to let everyone know that the street lights in this area were installed earlier through the parliamentary allocation by former Rocket Party (DAP) MP for P172, YB Chan Foong Hin, who appointed Kaven Lee to install the solar street lights for residents here, for the sake of convenience and safety. These are solar street lights, not the usual LED ones.

The reason we did not publicly announce this earlier is because the state election was approaching, and we did not want people to think we were claiming credit or creating publicity. Furthermore, YB Chan Foong Hin is a low-profile person by nature.

(We apologise, Mr. Tham — we are not targeting you. On the contrary, we have great respect for you as a former teacher and principal. We only want Likas residents to know the facts, and we hope you can understand 🙏.)

We can provide evidence that this is one of the service initiatives carried out for residents by DAP P172. The photos below serve as proof. Thank you, and we wish all Likas residents peace and prosperity. (The third photo onwards shows the installation process as evidence.)

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https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1LNapbA46u/

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Bf5mmMeLL/

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QUOTE(fongsk @ Dec 6 2025, 09:43 AM)
There shd be a handover period la, like work also.  Don’t simply taichi and wash hands.
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Please be logical.
You use the wrong analogy.
When you are no longer employed by the previous company you are no longer have "handover period"

Dewan already dissolved upon the call for election.
Mana ada "handover"?

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post Today, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(heaven @ Dec 6 2025, 09:56 AM)
Yeah, in this case, the previous Adun should have responded more professionally.
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Maybe frustration cos lost seat. Emotions run high during and immediately after any polls. Hard to accept any decisions by the public especially rejection. Needs time to absorb the rejection.
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post Today, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Dec 6 2025, 10:26 AM)
Please be logical.
You use the wrong analogy.
When you are no longer employed by the previous company you are no longer have "handover period"

Dewan already dissolved upon the call for election.
Mana ada "handover"?
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Why not? A responsible ADUN or MP shd be able to meet up with those who beat them in polls and ask if needs any handovers etc. I would expect this from my ADUN and MP, especially if the public ask for assistance. Or at least reply with courtesy and forward to the new ADUN/MP. The way she responded reflects on her.

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