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post Dec 5 2025, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 5 2025, 10:22 AM)
Some of the posters here are trying to frame the response as something offensive. I really don't see how that could be offensive in the first place.

She did not refuse to help him. She pointed him in the right direction. Which is what any normal person would do. I don't see any anger or resentment in that response.

Some posters have repeated that narrative for so many pages. This is repeating something and trying to make it the truth. That is not good.
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I agree, it actually is not offensive. Its just that the timing is bad for this to appear.

Couple that with some possibility of being perceived as sour, it just snowballed out of place.

Therefore, we can say that the public needs to understand better and not just blindly follow narratives; While the rep, could have arguably do better. Because, isn't this exactly an opening for the MP to show that even if its not my direct responsibility, I can go above and beyond?

People may not acknowledge your efforts to do more at the get go, but someone eventually will.
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post Dec 5 2025, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 5 2025, 10:19 AM)
I agree, its entirely normal, like you said.

But again, context, my friend. What will the mass think of that response? Correlate to their recent losses

We may be talking on paper, but general public emotions are unpredictable even if sometimes the situation is perfectly logical

You see, this post is created because someone think that it is a big issue enough to be discussed about, and subsequently, you replied here, isn't it?

If it is indeed perfectly normal and no one bats an eye because in everyone's mind its normal, no one will make a fuss about this.

"General public emotions are unpredictable even if sometimes the situation is perfectly logical"

Even more so in situations correlatedly linked to politics
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There are limits to political spin. This one is really trying to menegakkan benang yang basah.

edit: Also AI responses give even worse optics. "This guy couldn't even be bothered to respond to me personally."

This post has been edited by loserguy: Dec 5 2025, 10:31 AM
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post Dec 5 2025, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ Dec 5 2025, 10:25 AM)
currently all the warisan supporters really otak masuk air.

going all out to put all the blame on roket.

even tho i dont support roket, it's getting ridiculous.
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I have to point out that:

1. I don't support Warisan in this situation, nor do I blame rocket for the loss. I too, hope that ultimately, people get good service by their elected reps, regardless which political affiliation it is.

2. I wonder where in the post you see that person commenting was a Warisan supporter though?

Hmmm, seriously I'm curious though, off all, how come Warisan?

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post Dec 5 2025, 10:32 AM

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I saw the original post
I see nothing wrong
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post Dec 5 2025, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 5 2025, 10:27 AM)
There are limits to political spin. This one is really trying to menegakkan benang yang basah.

edit: Also AI responses give even worse optics. "This guy couldn't even be bothered to respond to me personally."
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Help me understand (genuinely)

So you are saying that this post - Is a political spin attempt by opposition?

Separately, I don't get your point about the AI responses, did you mean if use AI entirely to respond? I mean sure if bulat copy paste I would say that is far worse, and the elected rep that uses AI buta buta copy paste, sure deserve a good bash from you lol
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Dec 4 2025, 08:02 PM)
Good for her. If she do the work they won't remember anyways. They vote based on sentiment, not contribution.

Macam kacang lupakan kulit. Same case like how thanos lost deposit in Langkawi.
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So u mean Thanos banyak berjasa in lngkawi?
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post Dec 5 2025, 10:35 AM

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If you are the client, do you hope that the rep, do one better and change your mind?

I don't know. But what I do know, this is what differentiates a good rep against a great rep.
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Some of them are on track and making good progress in the past 5yrs from 0 experience.

now because they are doing too little to reverse 30yrs damages in these 3yrs, u sack them..

is this how u build great reps?

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good luck finding your great rep rofl..













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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ Dec 5 2025, 10:25 AM)
currently all the warisan supporters really otak masuk air.

going all out to put all the blame on roket.

even tho i dont support roket, it's getting ridiculous.
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha... EXACTLY!
Senang to blame DAP, after so many years of brainwashed why not?
sadukarzz
post Dec 5 2025, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ Dec 5 2025, 10:35 AM)
Some of them are on track and making good progress in the past 5yrs from 0 experience.

now because they are doing too little to reverse 30yrs damages in these 3yrs, u sack them..

is this how u build great reps?

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good luck finding your great rep rofl..
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*3 years for MP Vivan; 10 years for PR/PH (DAP) - They did what they could to progress, fair.

If one lose their direction just because they lost their reward

This is definitely not the rep I will hope to find

You may laugh and troll and bash all you want, as I understand the logic of "You can't please everyone, no one is perfect", so I won't retaliate and bash you

While I agree that MP's are humans too, I cannot agree that the room for improvement cannot be acknowledged and worked upon


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post Dec 5 2025, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 5 2025, 10:34 AM)
Help me understand (genuinely)

So you are saying that this post - Is a political spin attempt by opposition?

Separately, I don't get your point about the AI responses, did you mean if use AI entirely to respond? I mean sure if bulat copy paste I would say that is far worse, and the elected rep that uses AI buta buta copy paste, sure deserve a good bash from you lol
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Probably not a professional spin attempt, but maybe supporters caught up in election fever who are still in a high over their election victory.

All politicians suck, but it doesn't mean that we should demonize them for something which is so obviously not true. This is devolving into gaslighting which is not good.


AI is a very useful tool. But the problem with it, even in a professional setting, is that it can be obvious. If somebody is going to be triggered over her (pretty straightforward) response, they are going to be triggered by the carefully crafted AI response as well. It is now not a matter of what is being said, but who (or which account) posted it.

Somebody could post a picture of a turd. As long as these guys like the poster, they would probably praise its artistry to the heavens. Somebody else produces a work of art close to the Mona Lisa, haters will ask why couldn't they find a model with better hair.
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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 5 2025, 09:49 AM)
Hmmmm, bad optics, bad optics

She is in DAP which has been rejected in state election

Now this, only further undermines the efforts for parliamentary seat

Will not be surprised if they lose parliamentary seats too if this continues
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DAP should exit Sabah and Sarawak

the sentiment of local party first is strong,

there got alternative such as Warisan, so DAP will gg soon.

better DAP concentrate at semenanjung only
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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Dec 5 2025, 10:34 AM)
So u mean Thanos banyak berjasa in lngkawi?
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Langkawi was his baby. Poured billions into it to make it a tourist destination. All those years of hard work, they just abandon him because he not the 'in' thing anymore.

Lost deposit mind you, not even number 2 or 3. Really nobody remembers your jasa when you're no longer in power.

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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ Dec 5 2025, 10:25 AM)
currently all the warisan supporters really otak masuk air.

going all out to put all the blame on roket.

even tho i dont support roket, it's getting ridiculous.
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all the Warisan voter not wrong,

cause DAP really can't move any forward now.
cause of the federal condition.

so Warisan is their hope
same like last time DAP, is the only hope.
now shift to Warisan in sabah.

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Politikus mentality Cuci tangan then marah balik org lain.
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post Dec 5 2025, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Dec 5 2025, 10:48 AM)
Langkawi was his baby. Poured billions into it to make it a tourist destination. All those years of hard work, they just abandon him because he not the 'in' thing anymore.

Lost deposit mind you, not even number 2 or 3. Really nobody remembers your jasa when you're no longer in power.
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lmao

if u ssay he was all along clean, etc no scnadal bla bla bla

then ya, we can give him some pity votes

but the way he did things, it's amazing he still walking around like nothing happen

he is laughing at thaksin and marcos lol

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 5 2025, 10:46 AM)
Probably not a professional spin attempt, but maybe supporters caught up in election fever who are still in a high over their election victory.

All politicians suck, but it doesn't mean that we should demonize them for something which is so obviously not true. This is devolving into gaslighting which is not good.
AI is a very useful tool. But the problem with it, even in a professional setting, is that it can be obvious. If somebody is going to be triggered over her (pretty straightforward) response, they are going to be triggered by the carefully crafted AI response as well. It is now not a matter of what is being said, but who (or which account) posted it.

Somebody could post a picture of a turd. As long as these guys like the poster, they would probably praise its artistry to the heavens. Somebody else produces a work of art close to the Mona Lisa, haters will ask why couldn't they find a model with better hair.
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True, that could be very well the case. We would not know until we dig further. Until then, I support your notion that gaslighting is definitely not a healthy way to paint someone in.

For the AI portion, I guess we can agree that if elected reps are to use AI for their work, they should use it with caution and be responsible in how they respond or use the information.


QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 5 2025, 10:47 AM)
DAP should exit Sabah and Sarawak

the sentiment of local party first is strong,

there got alternative such as Warisan, so DAP will gg soon.

better DAP concentrate at semenanjung only
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Although I am glad that Warisan managed to inflict change, good or bad,

But after observing politics for some time, I would say, never be too sure,

Warisan can lose the support of the urban voters as fast as they gained them, should they don't own up to their responsibilities and do what they are elected to do.

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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 5 2025, 10:41 AM)
*3 years for MP Vivan; 10 years for PR/PH (DAP) - They did what they could to progress, fair.

If one lose their direction just because they lost their reward

This is definitely not the rep I will hope to find

You may laugh and troll and bash all you want, as I understand the logic of "You can't please everyone, no one is perfect", so I won't retaliate and bash you

While I agree that MP's are humans too, I cannot agree that the room for improvement cannot be acknowledged and worked upon
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we all hope there will be improvement.

the W rep songlap his own uncle's erection fund is better than her?

another W rep is a known business partner scammer is improvement?

the deputy president is a spoilt rich brat with no working experience can do better?

again. good luck mate.






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jibai later tongpakfu going to say i gado gado again

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time for a break
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 5 2025, 09:57 AM)
Hello, did you read the post? I found it to be a simple, non confrontational response to a question.

Please be honest with yourself. Are you really triggered by this response? Or are you trying to be triggered by it?

If the latter, then nothing she says will be satisfactory. No matter what she says, there will always be some fault somewhere.
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I do find her response lacking tactfulness. She is not confrontational. She is "appearing" to push away an issue. That is what the guy n her opponent sees. That what they want to bring up.

Morever, the guy is probably looking for issue w DAP. She falls into the trap.

Definitely not her responsibility anymore. Not her scope. Not her area of authority. However, given the hostile political environment that we have, she should respond POLITICALLY. If she lack this quality, she can be easily victimized by bad politics
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 5 2025, 10:48 AM)
all the Warisan voter not wrong,

cause DAP really can't move any forward now.
cause of the federal condition.

so Warisan is their hope
same like last time DAP, is the only hope.
now shift to Warisan in sabah.
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they're not wrong, the pursue for for 40% right on time.

but do we have the correct reps with good academy background to pursue this course?

this prn urban area simply a blind support and making those calon with dodgy b/ground becoming yb.

cant even communicate properly in bahasa and expect them able to help in this 40% pursuit?




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