Hmmmm, bad optics, bad optics

She is in DAP which has been rejected in state election

Now this, only further undermines the efforts for parliamentary seat

Will not be surprised if they lose parliamentary seats too if this continues

Again, as a fellow Borneon, don't spread your negativity in discouraging others to vote.

But I can say that for Vivian, I agree that there is better way to do this rather than just sourgraping

She could have said something like: "I appreciate you reaching out to me, but I believe that a more correct person to do this would be ADUN ABC; that said rest assured that I will channel this and also do my best to cooperate where I can to make this a better resolution for everyone."

Hello, did you read what I said?

Did I get triggered or trying to be? Isn't it a fact that its bad optics? Doesn't it undermine DAP further?

She could have said something like: "I appreciate you reaching out to me, but I believe that a more correct person to do this would be ADUN ABC; that said rest assured that I will channel this and also do my best to cooperate where I can to make this a better resolution for everyone."

She needs to understand that in this sensitive period of time right after election where she lost, the least she can do is to sweep this to ADUN in a way or manner that puts her in an disadvantageous position. It's not wrong for her to do channel it to someone else, perhaps do it without that sour note.

This post has been edited by sadukarzz: Yesterday, 10:01 AM

Perhaps adding context to your example further helps:

Your boss demoted you recently, and a client comes to ask for your help in aspect that no longer under your care

Instead of helping out the client and channel it to the right person and right tone

You say something in the region of "Sorry you need to find the next person and let them do their job dy"

What does your boss think?

I actually think your suggestion makes alot of sense

Although it may take away some form of perceived sincerity, you can always follow that up with action

It would be far better than being perceived as diffusion of responsibility

(again, not my perception, its the Public's; and we know the masses always take the easy way out rather than being logical; but as an elected rep, you should be more well versed in this rather than a member of general public)

What makes you think that I am not?

Jokes aside, like I always reiterate, I try to be neutral, objective and supportive where I can, even if sometimes it seems futile and meaningless

But understanding that these are all words that we read on screen are emotionless and toneless words, I can understand why your comment is as such

I don't necessarily support any parties / reps / situations, I just think of it from another perspective where it can be better than it currently is

I agree, its entirely normal, like you said.

But again, context, my friend. What will the mass think of that response? Correlate to their recent losses

We may be talking on paper, but general public emotions are unpredictable even if sometimes the situation is perfectly logical

You see, this post is created because someone think that it is a big issue enough to be discussed about, and subsequently, you replied here, isn't it?

If it is indeed perfectly normal and no one bats an eye because in everyone's mind its normal, no one will make a fuss about this.

"General public emotions are unpredictable even if sometimes the situation is perfectly logical"

Even more so in situations correlatedly linked to politics

Understood, my analogy not as correct, after reading yours, I agree, yours is a more appropriate one

But what you stated is also a fact right?

You refuse to help him; He openly tells others you are useless. You lose a client and possibly a few more that buys into what he says.

Now, we know we can't please everyone.

The question now is, do you wanna be the better person? Or let your feeling take over and just fark that client anyways

If you are the client, do you hope that the rep, do one better and change your mind?

I don't know. But what I do know, this is what differentiates a good rep against a great rep.

I agree, it actually is not offensive. Its just that the timing is bad for this to appear.

Couple that with some possibility of being perceived as sour, it just snowballed out of place.

Therefore, we can say that the public needs to understand better and not just blindly follow narratives; While the rep, could have arguably do better. Because, isn't this exactly an opening for the MP to show that even if its not my direct responsibility, I can go above and beyond?

People may not acknowledge your efforts to do more at the get go, but someone eventually will.

I have to point out that:

1. I don't support Warisan in this situation, nor do I blame rocket for the loss. I too, hope that ultimately, people get good service by their elected reps, regardless which political affiliation it is.

2. I wonder where in the post you see that person commenting was a Warisan supporter though?

Hmmm, seriously I'm curious though, off all, how come Warisan?

Help me understand (genuinely)

So you are saying that this post - Is a political spin attempt by opposition?

Separately, I don't get your point about the AI responses, did you mean if use AI entirely to respond? I mean sure if bulat copy paste I would say that is far worse, and the elected rep that uses AI buta buta copy paste, sure deserve a good bash from you lol

*3 years for MP Vivan; 10 years for PR/PH (DAP) - They did what they could to progress, fair.

If one lose their direction just because they lost their reward

This is definitely not the rep I will hope to find

You may laugh and troll and bash all you want, as I understand the logic of "You can't please everyone, no one is perfect", so I won't retaliate and bash you

While I agree that MP's are humans too, I cannot agree that the room for improvement cannot be acknowledged and worked upon

True, that could be very well the case. We would not know until we dig further. Until then, I support your notion that gaslighting is definitely not a healthy way to paint someone in.

For the AI portion, I guess we can agree that if elected reps are to use AI for their work, they should use it with caution and be responsible in how they respond or use the information.


Although I am glad that Warisan managed to inflict change, good or bad,

But after observing politics for some time, I would say, never be too sure,

Warisan can lose the support of the urban voters as fast as they gained them, should they don't own up to their responsibilities and do what they are elected to do.

I have not sufficient knowledge about your 2 claims above, or its truths, so I shall refrain from commenting on that.

For the deputy president, "spoilt rich brat with no working experience", now this, I have to disagree.

You literally said, DAP rep with 0 experience did good progress in 5 years.

What made you think that Warisan, BN, GRS or any other reps with 0 experience cannot do good? What makes you think that only DAP rep with 0 experience can do good?

Come on, after that inconsistency now you almost start to sound like a strong DAP supporter despite you claiming otherwise.


Where got gado, we exchanged opinions

You corrected me where I was wrong

That's all, cheers.

Not sure about how to go about in Politics from Warisan's perspective,

I still got lots to learn,

But like you said, if Warisan become Sabah gov (they did before btw), they will definitely win some lose some.

And GPS / Sarawak is such a figure now isn't it? I am really happy to see that Sarawakians are getting good education and opportunity.

Hmmm, if I were to follow your range in terms of evaluation (making good on track in 5 years from 0 experience),

You gotta ask me back after 5 years, otherwise, it would be unfair don't you think?

But if you ask me based on past years, Tanjung Aru did see fair bit of improvements those that at least that I know of

- Tanjung Aru state library is well maintained and promoted, garnering tourist attraction
- Reported and supervised a few (those that I know of) water pipe bursts near sunny mart and surrounding area
- Brought up road maintenance for tanjung aru area
- Supported night market establishment in Aeropod
- Fight for Genset fee
- Supported DBKK move the parking for beach1&2 relocate (but I gotta say the food court could have been done better)

These are done while they are not part of the government, so credits where its due

But on hindsight, can you shed some light into what Vivan has done so far for Elopura? I genuinely want to know more, no sarcasm.

This is what I know, those that are hearsay did not include

But I can say that the people of TA seen enough to vote for him and his party.

May I know, are you Sabahan who happen to reside and vote in Vivian's constituency?

Your attitude in defending her although is dismissive and dominant, so I am trying to understand, whether your points are actually factual? Or you are just another staunch DAP voter or Warisan / BN / PN / GRS hater.

As your points of argument were highly dismissive. You asked me what do I know Junz's contribution, I gave what I know, but when asked of yours, you asked me to check socmed instead.

Thank you for the encouragement, it really helps me to understand why people says the things they say and do the things they do

And I am still far from being great, still learning and constantly reminding myself I too can be biased and wrong

I will carry this on and hopefully one day able to serve my community beyond just the small things on a daily basis


When you say that blindly giving support to Warisan does that take into account of the macro view where they are rejecting "Malaya" based parties?

You might be right that I don't know how to play along yet, as I am learning on which one comes first

Party? Or candidate? If the party loses, does the party have to change their view to "win first plan later"? If the candidate loses because of the party, does the candidate sulk? Or just do the good that many may say useless and wasteful work.

I agree that there is a grey area, and I don't hate or like any candidates / party

Because people come and go, people change

That's why there are people around us that constantly help remind who we are and continuously shape who we become

At least that's what I think

Nevertheless, I appreciate your sharing. Truly. Perhaps you can tell me more about your experience in politics particularly Warisan. What was working and what didn't work, and eventually led to your pessimism?

Yeah, definitely you are not wrong but I acknowledged that earlier part hence didn't say he built / led to building thereof etc

I believe your comments from locals there also would then add on - Still better than Ed Yong from the earlier days when AirAsia was still operating from the other LCC terminal; I too would agree

But party sentiment definitely helped him out quite a bit there

About Vivian vs Warisan, I too cannot say for sure whether Warisan can meet the expectations of Chinese community, but what I do know is, Chinese community is pretty much educated voters, and they would able to adjust for the expectations for reps that are not in government.

Now, should that rep able to meet their expectations in Warisan, then unfortunately DAP will be out for a long time. But otherwise, then the lack of representation or joining the winning boat (Lol) will start to eat into their mindsets.

Of course, all that will only stand, if Warisan is able to deliver at least - Pressuring the federal government on the implementation of 40% revenue on top of the existing MA63 issues.

*on top of that, actually Vivian should be in a vantage point now, could be a strong factor for her if she plays her cards right

This post has been edited by sadukarzz: Yesterday, 05:26 PM