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post Dec 5 2025, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 4 2025, 06:16 PM)
same vibes as somebody say Putra Heights is not in my district
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QUOTE(Lancer07 @ Dec 5 2025, 07:33 AM)
don't see an issue here

she just telling the hard truth
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Yup. But then DAP opponents and haters will spin this around.....
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post Dec 5 2025, 09:49 AM

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Hmmmm, bad optics, bad optics

She is in DAP which has been rejected in state election

Now this, only further undermines the efforts for parliamentary seat

Will not be surprised if they lose parliamentary seats too if this continues
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post Dec 5 2025, 09:50 AM

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rakyat also bodo.. nak minta tolong org pun cari org salah.. niamah i buat kerja dia ada ambik gaji dia tak???
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post Dec 5 2025, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Dec 4 2025, 11:06 PM)
She is right, but the way she deliver the message triggers reaction
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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 5 2025, 09:49 AM)
Hmmmm, bad optics, bad optics

She is in DAP which has been rejected in state election

Now this, only further undermines the efforts for parliamentary seat

Will not be surprised if they lose parliamentary seats too if this continues
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Hello, did you read the post? I found it to be a simple, non confrontational response to a question.

Please be honest with yourself. Are you really triggered by this response? Or are you trying to be triggered by it?

If the latter, then nothing she says will be satisfactory. No matter what she says, there will always be some fault somewhere.
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post Dec 5 2025, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 4 2025, 08:19 PM)
that's why i don't vote
none of those names on the ballot even have social media accounts
no, never have before...even back in BN's era

the only one i ever seen before is under luyang which u know who and the one who loses it all this term
and sabahans see him more often than we saw CM which is very abnormal

but too bad he also has no accountability which is why he loses

now u know why i don't even bother to vote
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Again, as a fellow Borneon, don't spread your negativity in discouraging others to vote.

But I can say that for Vivian, I agree that there is better way to do this rather than just sourgraping

She could have said something like: "I appreciate you reaching out to me, but I believe that a more correct person to do this would be ADUN ABC; that said rest assured that I will channel this and also do my best to cooperate where I can to make this a better resolution for everyone."
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post Dec 5 2025, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 5 2025, 09:57 AM)
Hello, did you read the post? I found it to be a simple, non confrontational response to a question.

Please be honest with yourself. Are you really triggered by this response? Or are you trying to be triggered by it?

If the latter, then nothing she says will be satisfactory. No matter what she says, there will always be some fault somewhere.
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Hello, did you read what I said?

Did I get triggered or trying to be? Isn't it a fact that its bad optics? Doesn't it undermine DAP further?

She could have said something like: "I appreciate you reaching out to me, but I believe that a more correct person to do this would be ADUN ABC; that said rest assured that I will channel this and also do my best to cooperate where I can to make this a better resolution for everyone."

She needs to understand that in this sensitive period of time right after election where she lost, the least she can do is to sweep this to ADUN in a way or manner that puts her in an disadvantageous position. It's not wrong for her to do channel it to someone else, perhaps do it without that sour note.

This post has been edited by sadukarzz: Dec 5 2025, 10:01 AM
loserguy
post Dec 5 2025, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 5 2025, 09:59 AM)
Hello, did you read what I said?

Did I get triggered or trying to be? Isn't it a fact that its bad optics? Doesn't it undermine DAP further?

She could have said something like: "I appreciate you reaching out to me, but I believe that a more correct person to do this would be ADUN ABC; that said rest assured that I will channel this and also do my best to cooperate where I can to make this a better resolution for everyone."
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In your workplace, you ask a question. Somebody answers your question.

Do you reply by rewriting his response, keeping the content the same, but in a way that makes you happy.

Isn't YOUR response the rude and condescending one?
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post Dec 5 2025, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 5 2025, 09:59 AM)
Hello, did you read what I said?

Did I get triggered or trying to be? Isn't it a fact that its bad optics? Doesn't it undermine DAP further?

She could have said something like: "I appreciate you reaching out to me, but I believe that a more correct person to do this would be ADUN ABC; that said rest assured that I will channel this and also do my best to cooperate where I can to make this a better resolution for everyone."
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I suggest it's better for mp's or adun's to simply use AI to reply going forward, at least AI usually replies tactfully as some Malaysians
gets easily triggered whistling.gif
sadukarzz
post Dec 5 2025, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 5 2025, 10:03 AM)
In your workplace, you ask a question. Somebody answers your question.

Do you reply by rewriting his response, keeping the content the same, but in a way that makes you happy.

Isn't YOUR response the rude and condescending one?
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Perhaps adding context to your example further helps:

Your boss demoted you recently, and a client comes to ask for your help in aspect that no longer under your care

Instead of helping out the client and channel it to the right person and right tone

You say something in the region of "Sorry you need to find the next person and let them do their job dy"

What does your boss think?
sadukarzz
post Dec 5 2025, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(fanlou @ Dec 5 2025, 10:04 AM)
I suggest it's better for mp's or adun's to simply use AI to reply going forward, at least AI usually replies tactfully as some Malaysians
gets easily triggered  whistling.gif
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I actually think your suggestion makes alot of sense

Although it may take away some form of perceived sincerity, you can always follow that up with action

It would be far better than being perceived as diffusion of responsibility

(again, not my perception, its the Public's; and we know the masses always take the easy way out rather than being logical; but as an elected rep, you should be more well versed in this rather than a member of general public)
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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 5 2025, 10:08 AM)
I actually think your suggestion makes alot of sense

Although it may take away some form of perceived sincerity, you can always follow that up with action

It would be far better than being perceived as diffusion of responsibility

(again, not my perception, its the Public's; and we know the masses always take the easy way out rather than being logical; but as an elected rep, you should be more well versed in this rather than a member of general public)
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You sound like an AI.

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post Dec 5 2025, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 5 2025, 10:05 AM)
Perhaps adding context to your example further helps:

Your boss demoted you recently, and a client comes to ask for your help in aspect that no longer under your care

Instead of helping out the client and channel it to the right person and right tone

You say something in the region of "Sorry you need to find the next person and let them do their job dy"

What does your boss think?
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That is perfectly normal in a work setting!

"I am not in charge of this project. Please contact sadukarzz for more info."

Then it's up to that person to contact the correct person in charge.

What is not good is when they ignore the message completely because it doesn't concern them anymore. Which while not good, does happen sometime. Or if they just answer, "not me" and stops without at least suggesting where to look next.

In this case, there was a response, there was a suggestion where to go next, there is even a farking smiley at the end just to put a more friendly tone to the message. Please don't be ridiculous.
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post Dec 5 2025, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Dec 5 2025, 10:13 AM)
You sound like an AI.
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What makes you think that I am not? brows.gif

Jokes aside, like I always reiterate, I try to be neutral, objective and supportive where I can, even if sometimes it seems futile and meaningless

But understanding that these are all words that we read on screen are emotionless and toneless words, I can understand why your comment is as such

I don't necessarily support any parties / reps / situations, I just think of it from another perspective where it can be better than it currently is
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QUOTE(zidane28 @ Dec 4 2025, 06:11 PM)
Well the answer is correct, but at this sensitive juncture the way she answer only make her a sour grape.
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post Dec 5 2025, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 5 2025, 10:05 AM)
Perhaps adding context to your example further helps:

Your boss demoted you recently, and a client comes to ask for your help in aspect that no longer under your care

Instead of helping out the client and channel it to the right person and right tone

You say something in the region of "Sorry you need to find the next person and let them do their job dy"

What does your boss think?
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that's an incorrect analogy.


your client fark u up even u help him all these years..

and then fark u up again when u refuse to help him after your client openly telling others that you're useless.

mahai, mp also human, got feeling la, not your slave.








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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 5 2025, 10:15 AM)
That is perfectly normal in a work setting!

"I am not in charge of this project. Please contact sadukarzz for more info."

Then it's up to that person to contact the correct person in charge.

What is not good is when they ignore the message completely because it doesn't concern them anymore. Which while not good, does happen sometime. Or if they just answer, "not me" and stops without at least suggesting where to look next.

In this case, there was a response, there was a suggestion where to go next, there is even a farking smiley at the end just to put a more friendly tone to the message. Please don't be ridiculous.
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I agree, its entirely normal, like you said.

But again, context, my friend. What will the mass think of that response? Correlate to their recent losses

We may be talking on paper, but general public emotions are unpredictable even if sometimes the situation is perfectly logical

You see, this post is created because someone think that it is a big issue enough to be discussed about, and subsequently, you replied here, isn't it?

If it is indeed perfectly normal and no one bats an eye because in everyone's mind its normal, no one will make a fuss about this.

"General public emotions are unpredictable even if sometimes the situation is perfectly logical"

Even more so in situations correlatedly linked to politics
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post Dec 5 2025, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ Dec 5 2025, 10:18 AM)
that's an incorrect analogy.
your client fark u up even u help him all these years..

and then fark u up again when u refuse to help him after your client openly telling others that you're useless.

mahai, mp also human, got feeling la, not your slave.
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Some of the posters here are trying to frame the response as something offensive. I really don't see how that could be offensive in the first place.

She did not refuse to help him. She pointed him in the right direction. Which is what any normal person would do. I don't see any anger or resentment in that response.

Some posters have repeated that narrative for so many pages. This is repeating something and trying to make it the truth. That is not good.
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post Dec 5 2025, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ Dec 5 2025, 10:18 AM)
that's an incorrect analogy.
your client fark u up even u help him all these years..

and then fark u up again when u refuse to help him after your client openly telling others that you're useless.

mahai, mp also human, got feeling la, not your slave.
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Understood, my analogy not as correct, after reading yours, I agree, yours is a more appropriate one

But what you stated is also a fact right?

You refuse to help him; He openly tells others you are useless. You lose a client and possibly a few more that buys into what he says.

Now, we know we can't please everyone.

The question now is, do you wanna be the better person? Or let your feeling take over and just fark that client anyways

If you are the client, do you hope that the rep, do one better and change your mind?

I don't know. But what I do know, this is what differentiates a good rep against a great rep.


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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 5 2025, 10:22 AM)
Some of the posters here are trying to frame the response as something offensive. I really don't see how that could be offensive in the first place.

She did not refuse to help him. She pointed him in the right direction. Which is what any normal person would do. I don't see any anger or resentment in that response.

Some posters have repeated that narrative for so many pages. This is repeating something and trying to make it the truth. That is not good.
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currently all the warisan supporters really otak masuk air.

going all out to put all the blame on roket.

even tho i dont support roket, it's getting ridiculous.








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