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post Nov 28 2025, 08:24 PM, updated 4w ago

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Everyday sleep and watch video, give him de task, do halfway no news jor. All easy task like adding logo to photo and post in socmed. Organize file and folder and put in NAS, put shortcut to NAS there. Todei unker brain full of question marks, he dunno how to print waybill, teach before, cut waybill also like dog bite bergigi one, peel packing tape also tak pandai, koyak til left the little tape and stick.

Unker this few days super busy with design work, todei only got abit free since the design no feedback yet so checking his work, all do halfway no news one.

ps: btw, he is young guy 00后 about to finish his degree, not some kind of old ah pek dunno tech

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post Nov 28 2025, 08:31 PM

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send him to some motivation class.


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U got ask him why do half way?

U got do follow up or not?

Nowadays u no give instruction A-Z u dont expect the workers to so until Z.

Also nowadays worker must spoon feed. They all realized end of the day the task is more important to u than to them. Why they want 100% effort complete something that is not important to them.

World changed bro. U need them do the job mpre than they need it. They expect effort from ur side also. Thats the "equality" and "fairness" u fought for during your youth. Remember??
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post Nov 28 2025, 08:34 PM

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kids nowadays is like that

u give him simple task, he also not interested. give harder work he say u no teach how to do

susah wei

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post Nov 28 2025, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(kons @ Nov 28 2025, 08:31 PM)
send him to some motivation class.
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Actually he failed jor

QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Nov 28 2025, 08:31 PM)
U got ask him why do half way?

U got do follow up or not?

Nowadays u no give instruction A-Z u dont expect the workers to so until Z.

Also nowadays worker must spoon feed. They all realized end of the day the task is more important to u than to them. Why they want 100% effort complete something that is not important to them.

World changed bro. U need them do the job mpre than they need it. They expect effort from ur side also. Thats the "equality" and "fairness" u fought for during your youth. Remember??
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Fairness mar? All basic tasks, like tat cannot complete sure kena pecat liao in real job. Yea, he really want teach A-Z step by step, and will forget immediately after no ppl monitor him. Actually that job is secretary give one, I just pass to him and even teach him how to do it. Since he macam teach also no learn, I just pass and keep quiet better
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post Nov 28 2025, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Nov 28 2025, 08:34 PM)
kids nowadays is like that

u give him simple task, he also not interested. give harder work he say u no teach how to do

susah wei
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Todei I see him wrapping failed, print waybill failed, cut the waybill failed, peel packing tape oso failed, my brain really fuck up
Actually secretary ady post order arrived need packing, he still dreaming in his seat until I call him

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post Nov 28 2025, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(wagie @ Nov 28 2025, 08:39 PM)
no need teach. after probation kick out  brows.gif
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Basic stuff only, but man, I can't believe is a degree student my god
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TS failed. Hired male intern. That's your first mistake.

Secondly, sounds like a boring monotonous job at a tiny tiny company. He's just waiting to get out of that depressing internship.


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post Nov 28 2025, 08:46 PM

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u pay peanuts u get monkey lor.

and these monkeys will usually stay monkey..

becoz humans who know their worth wont settle for peanuts
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Nov 28 2025, 08:45 PM)
TS failed. Hired male intern. That's your first mistake.

Secondly, sounds like a boring monotonous job at a tiny tiny company. He's just waiting to get out of that depressing internship.
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Not me hire ok, I dun hv authority to hire anyone
I just ignore it, basic task cannot handle, exciting important task no confident pass to him

QUOTE(seather @ Nov 28 2025, 08:46 PM)
u pay peanuts u get monkey lor.

and these monkeys will usually stay monkey..

becoz humans who know their worth wont settle for peanuts
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Dunno his salary how much

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QUOTE(heinlein @ Nov 28 2025, 08:24 PM)
Everyday sleep and watch video, give him de task, do halfway no news jor. All easy task like adding logo to photo and post in socmed.
Mungkin sebab tu kot. Tak terangsang.
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tahan la
3 months pass very fast one
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Can always kick that fella out, anytime. And file a fail recommendation report to his uni supervisor.
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got give him timeline bor. lol. open ended like that.
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post Nov 28 2025, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(Buffalo Soldier @ Nov 28 2025, 08:54 PM)
Mungkin sebab tu kot. Tak terangsang.
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Actually add logo to pictar also take pannai, I think even hv to teach him tat. Shud be challenging for him

QUOTE(Kelefeh @ Nov 28 2025, 08:54 PM)
tahan la
3 months pass very fast one
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I just do my work. Cuz todei only free Abit cuz boss not yet back give feedback, after that I busy back liao

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Can always kick that fella out, anytime. And file a fail recommendation report to his uni supervisor.
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Nv been an intern during my days. How does intern work? Tat will be secretary handle his recommendation lipot
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The other day someone shared to me a big Jap MNC still hiring intern at RM500 nowadays and work them like dog aka Kuli.
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QUOTE(ticke @ Nov 28 2025, 08:58 PM)
got give him timeline bor. lol. open ended like that.
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I tell him inform me once it is done for add logo task. Almost end of Nov. Job given on 1 Nov. All socmed video no post, secretary question jor
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QUOTE(sairay @ Nov 28 2025, 09:01 PM)
The other day someone shared to me a big Jap MNC still hiring intern at RM500 nowadays and work them like dog aka Kuli.
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Here he no do job keep sleeping and watch video. Assume is rm500 also la but I dun think my company give so lil. Prolly give 1-1.2k at least
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Nov 28 2025, 08:35 PM)
Actually he failed jor
Fairness mar? All basic tasks, like tat cannot complete sure kena pecat liao in real job. Yea, he really want teach A-Z step by step, and will forget immediately after no ppl monitor him. Actually that job is secretary give one, I just pass to him and even teach him how to do it. Since he macam teach also no learn, I just pass and keep quiet better
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Sun tzu said u teach once the student dont do it right the fault lies with the teacher. Then u reflect and change the way u teach so the student get it the second time. If after that the student still dont get it then the problem is on the student.

Now i ask u honest question. Did u try your best to teach ? Or u already got prejudice even before u start. That is not the correct mentality to teach hence u cant really blame the student.
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QUOTE(wagie @ Nov 28 2025, 08:39 PM)
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intern bro, what probation

this is what happen when want cheap to free labour
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post Nov 28 2025, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Nov 28 2025, 09:03 PM)
Sun tzu said u teach once the student dont do it right the fault lies with the teacher. Then u reflect and change the way u teach so the student get it the second time. If after that the student still dont get it then the problem is on the student.

Now i ask u honest question. Did u try your best to teach ? Or u already got prejudice even before u start. That is not the correct mentality to teach hence u cant really blame the student.
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Wah, I teach also my fault. I teach slowly ask if he understands then remind him to write it down wei. Walao cb, like this I rather no teach and accept the fault rather that teach and being blamed
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Nov 28 2025, 09:05 PM)
Wah, I teach also my fault. I teach slowly ask if he understands then remind him to write it down wei. Walao cb, like this I rather no teach and accept the fault rather that teach and being blamed
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See. The teacher doesnt have the correct mindset. Then proceed to blame student when fail. Perfect example of our great malaysia education system.

In general Malaysian are all stupid as fuck then like to blame others when the nation failing. Its collective problem, we just do not have the attitude to achieve greatness.
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QUOTE(pandah @ Nov 28 2025, 09:05 PM)
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Ignore him ba. Tat kompeni punya hal jor. Now secretary direct tally him jor. Maybe I too naise he think ayam sick cat
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Nov 28 2025, 09:07 PM)
See. The teacher doesnt have the correct mindset. Then proceed to blame student when fail. Perfect example of our great malaysia education system.

In general Malaysian are all stupid as fuck then like to blame others when the nation failing. Its collective problem, we just do not have the attitude to achieve greatness.
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Ok I stupid, no qualify teach him, happy?
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Nov 28 2025, 09:10 PM)
Ok I stupid, no qualify teach him, happy?
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Here another standard characteristic. When ppl point out valid shortcoming. They proceed to drama pity party. Half ass apology. Purposely show that they not going to change just to plotek the fragile ego.

Usually either this or they pull out "kurang ajar" card or the infamous "hormat orang tua"

Malaysia got big problem because we just really suck at communication. And extra suck when it comes to educating others.
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Teacher no teach. dont want to even ask when dont know.
Eating and drink during work. Keep sayings busy but keep watch tv series&movies/youtube. End of day nothing done. Even do everything and print out for him/her to key in and print out a week prior. Nothing done a week later. When scold always hide behind parent or MIA. Told to design but keep draw stupid youngster meme not related to the subject or requirement of customer.
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youngsters nowadays expect nothing less than spoonfeed and constant reminder
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Nov 28 2025, 08:59 PM)
Nv been an intern during my days. How does intern work? Tat will be secretary handle his recommendation lipot
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Internship - normally during / end of degree / diploma study. Attach to real workplace, supposed to 'expose' the student to real life work. Some being paid okay, some does not.

During the internship, the candidate should be monitored / mentored by company's supervisor and uni supervisor. Report from both will lead to passing / failing the internship.

I've failed a couple of interns at my workplace before. Does not perform as expected (as intern, not real full time worker). Wrote a detail report recommending he/she to be failed. For example: a networking degree student that have zero idea about very simple network stuffs (subnets, IP address, etc) and unwilling to learn new things.

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post Nov 28 2025, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(stupiak07 @ Nov 28 2025, 09:14 PM)
Teacher no teach. dont want to even ask when dont know.
Eating and drink during work. Keep sayings busy but keep watch tv series&movies/youtube. End of day nothing done. Even do everything and print out for him/her to key in and print out a week prior. Nothing done a week later. When scold always hide behind parent or MIA. Told to design but keep draw stupid youngster meme not related to the subject or requirement of customer.
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You see I teach also kena marah by ktard, I speechless. Dunno how to teach. Teach how to cut paper straight? Teach how to peel packing tape? Teach how to stick waybill? Technique also teach slowly and stop to ask if understand and request hjm write down note. If other ppl diu you til fly jor.
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Nov 28 2025, 09:19 PM)
You see I teach also kena marah by ktard, I speechless. Dunno how to teach. Teach how to cut paper straight? Teach how to peel packing tape? Teach how to stick waybill? Technique also teach slowly and stop to ask if understand and request hjm write down note. If other ppl diu you til fly jor.
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I would recommend direct sign and give him/her her internship slip a fail

Ignore troll, they never encounter wont know.
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Nov 28 2025, 09:15 PM)
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youngsters nowadays expect nothing less than spoonfeed and constant reminder
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Actually he is not my responsibility also. The supervisor shud be the secretary. Just teach him when he dunno. Actually secretary more garang, maybe he dun dare no do since secretary direct deal with him now

QUOTE(haturaya @ Nov 28 2025, 09:16 PM)
Internship - normally during / end of degree / diploma study. Attach to real workplace, supposed to 'expose' the student to real life work. Some being paid okay, some does not.

During the internship, the candidate should be monitored / mentored by company's supervisor and uni supervisor. Report from both will lead to passing / failing the internship.

I've failed a couple of interns at my workplace before. Does not perform as expected (as intern, not real full time worker). Wrote a detail report recommending he/she to be failed. For example: a networking degree student that have zero idea about very simple network stuffs (subnets, IP address, etc) and unwilling to learn new things.

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So the secretary the acting supervisor will write the performance lipot of his intern? What happened if failed the intern?
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QUOTE(stupiak07 @ Nov 28 2025, 09:24 PM)
I would recommend direct sign and give him/her her internship slip a fail

Ignore troll, they never encounter wont know.
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Actually his performance is big red flag to me. Ok if dunno, still can learn from YouTube or Google right? But he choose to sleep and watch sexy girl dancing
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My intern and junior tech all OK one. Show them pasang PC once already know how to do.
The intern took whole day just to pasang 1 pc though lol
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My intern and junior tech all OK one. Show them pasang PC once already know how to do.
The intern took whole day just to pasang 1 pc though lol
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Teach him print black and white document once, 1 week later bungkus barang tell him print waybill first. I ady finished bungkus he only tell me dunno print. I have to print myself and ask him cut to size. Even that sigh...
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from which Uni & which degree?
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Nov 28 2025, 08:24 PM)
Everyday sleep and watch video, give him de task, do halfway no news jor. All easy task like adding logo to photo and post in socmed. Organize file and folder and put in NAS, put shortcut to NAS there. Todei unker brain full of question marks, he dunno how to print waybill, teach before, cut waybill also like dog bite bergigi one, peel packing tape also tak pandai, koyak til left the little tape and stick.

Unker this few days super busy with design work, todei only got abit free since the design no feedback yet so checking his work, all do halfway no news one.

ps: btw, he is young guy 00后 about to finish his degree, not some kind of old ah pek dunno tech
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Lucky only intern

Next time want hiring ask boss put more monies to prevent these bodo


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QUOTE(stupiak07 @ Nov 28 2025, 09:14 PM)
Teacher no teach. dont want to even ask when dont know.
Eating and drink during work. Keep sayings busy but keep watch tv series&movies/youtube. End of day nothing done. Even do everything and print out for him/her to key in and print out a week prior. Nothing done a week later. When scold always hide behind parent or MIA. Told to design but keep draw stupid youngster meme not related to the subject or requirement of customer.
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Some are really basic no need teacher one.
It's cultural upbringing

More like parents pattern at home are like, it's okay just leave it there i'll do it for you babe

then when besar everything lanjiao even printing also duno then say im here to work not to photocopy

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3 years in U, but dont know to use office, cant even even wrote a simple letter format or search internut for it. Cant even use excel not to mention the calculation and format.
Afaik, most secondary from 90s&00s onward should already starting to learn computer subject especially office in school
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Nov 28 2025, 09:19 PM)
Teach how to cut paper straight? Teach how to peel packing tape? Teach how to stick waybill? Technique also teach slowly and stop to ask if understand and request hjm write down note. If other ppl diu you til fly jor.
A bit boring, and office admin-ish the job but still he should complete it properly.

I don't know. Maybe your HR or hiring person should be more selective?

But at least you tried even though it is not your responsibility.
I would also give 1 chance and if the performance and results are shiet. I will not bother anymore. 😁


When I did summer internships eons ago, they gave me job that new hire, and junior full time staff do. Not just admin jobs...




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maybe he desperate for uncle attention xD
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Nov 28 2025, 09:31 PM)
Teach him print black and white document once, 1 week later bungkus barang tell him print waybill first. I ady finished bungkus he only tell me dunno print. I have to print myself and ask him cut to size. Even that sigh...
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Why you need to stress over an intern? Dude just an intern. If he cannot perform, ask him to go fly kite lor. Interns are not covered under employment act.
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 28 2025, 09:32 PM)
from which Uni & which degree?
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dunno which uni, study marketing one

QUOTE(submergedx @ Nov 28 2025, 09:33 PM)
Lucky only intern

Next time want hiring ask boss put more monies to prevent these bodo
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my boss got put 5k hired 1 bodo, keep find boss bluffing herself how geng how geng, then come down say boss tell you to do this and that, even curi2 use boss name to order me do her friend's work, end up caught red hand by secretary and kena goreng instantly, work less than a month

QUOTE(stupiak07 @ Nov 28 2025, 09:36 PM)
3 years in U, but dont know to use office, cant even even wrote a simple letter format or search internut for it. Cant even use excel not to mention the calculation and format.
Afaik, most secondary from 90s&00s onward should already starting to learn computer subject especially office in school
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copy file to NAS also dunno, direct paste shortcut from his pc on NAS folder, you say geng mou?
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Nov 28 2025, 09:38 PM)
A bit boring, and office admin-ish the job but still he should complete it properly.

I don't know. Maybe your HR or hiring person should be more selective?

But at least you tried even though it is not your responsibility.
I would also give 1 chance and if the performance and results are shiet. I will not bother anymore.  😁
When I did summer internships eons ago, they gave me job that new hire, and junior full time staff do. Not just admin jobs...
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Even being selective, you never know what kind of person you hired til he actually start working. I teach him a few times, dia macam buat tak dengar also, I also dun want waste my breath le

QUOTE(EncikSejati @ Nov 28 2025, 09:38 PM)
maybe he desperate for uncle attention xD
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Please no wokay

QUOTE(samftrmd @ Nov 28 2025, 09:38 PM)
Why you need to stress over an intern? Dude just an intern. If he cannot perform, ask him to go fly kite lor. Interns are not covered under employment act.
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I request company hired another graphic designer, he's sitting the graphic designer seat, wasting the spot and cannot hire another graphic designer until his intern ends
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Its normal la gen z always sleeping at work, simple task cannot do need to guide all the time, delay work until forget, no respect people, eat like king everyday, if boring tomolo quit job
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Which uni he from??
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QUOTE(motherland @ Nov 28 2025, 09:50 PM)
Its normal la gen z always sleeping at work, simple task cannot do need to guide all the time, delay work until forget, no respect people, eat like king everyday, if boring tomolo quit job
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You also encounter same thing? Is it intern or actual employee?

QUOTE(Starbucki @ Nov 28 2025, 09:51 PM)
Which uni he from??
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Dunno, not me hired, dun hv access to their resume
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That's why fresh grads can't find jobs now. Companies rather use AI n automation than hire interns n fresh grads
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Dont worry in medical field, housemen also like that

All these 00 oni want to rest alot, do selfie tiktok they do some work, even cpr/give lytic cocktail also can selfie, do peritoneal tap also instagram look at camera rather than at patient.

They dont join rounds, they dont know who is consultant who is registrar, they tell prof and consultant “this sub wan not my patient, i team X HO oni” when pt gasping for air
They call u at night inform u patient fever.
U ask why, did u assess?
They say SN inform so i inform.

Wadaya expect?

All these strawberry HOs will be treating u lots in future, so prepare proper med insurance not those annual 20k 50k but in the millions, bec some of em already progress to Masters with this shitty attitude become junior masters and suck shit too

Times have changed

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which uni? you need to filter some interns for chance to get good ones
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Nov 28 2025, 08:37 PM)
Todei I see him wrapping failed, print waybill failed, cut the waybill failed, peel packing tape oso failed, my brain really fuck up
Actually secretary ady post order arrived need packing, he still dreaming in his seat until I call him
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That's why fresh grads can't find jobs now. Companies rather use AI n automation than hire interns n fresh grads
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Nov 28 2025, 10:09 PM)
Dont worry in medical field, housemen also like that

All these 00 oni want to rest alot, do selfie tiktok they do some work, even cpr/give lytic cocktail also can selfie, do peritoneal tap also instagram look at camera rather than at patient.

They dont join rounds, they dont know who is consultant who is registrar, they tell prof and consultant “this sub wan not my patient, i team X HO oni” when pt gasping for air
They call u at night inform u patient fever.
U ask why, did u assess?
They say SN inform so i inform.

Wadaya expect?

All these strawberry HOs will be treating u lots in future, so prepare proper med insurance not those annual 20k 50k but in the millions, bec some of em already progress to Masters with this shitty attitude become junior masters and suck shit too

Times have changed
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which uni? you need to filter some interns for chance to get good ones
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QUOTE(supermoto @ Nov 28 2025, 10:12 PM)
how mych salary. change to me if salary interesting
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I think min got 1k ba. That is too low for you I think

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Ask him clean toilet or mop the office.
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intern pay got intern results
but some ppl are really in the "why ayam here?" mindset and dont bother want to take responsibility one
typical zoomie but ehh my batch intern time also more or less similar lol (but at least our batch knows how to use solidworks during internship!)

but ppl are funny. one of my coworkers when first come in have technician mentality like, if dont tell them what to do he'll just do what's needed to do only, then after finish just sit and play phone. because any problem he dont have to directly answer to.
but 2 years later he basically have to become one of the lead in one of the project, now mindset different already. because any fuckups he will have to answer for it, so he go and find potential problems and try to solve them without having to tell him anymore. and also if finish work faster can go home faster also lol.

maybe give him more responsibility laugh.gif
but if copy paste files to NAS also cannot then can only show once.
but fail again then just scold him say "take notes la dey!"
build character laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Stirmling @ Nov 28 2025, 10:32 PM)
intern pay got intern results
but some ppl are really in the "why ayam here?" mindset and dont bother want to take responsibility one
typical zoomie but ehh my batch intern time also more or less similar lol (but at least our batch knows how to use solidworks during internship!)

but ppl are funny. one of my coworkers when first come in have technician mentality like, if dont tell them what to do he'll just do what's needed to do only, then after finish just sit and play phone. because any problem he dont have to directly answer to.
but 2 years later he basically have to become one of the lead in one of the project, now mindset different already. because any fuckups he will have to answer for it, so he go and find potential problems and try to solve them without having to tell him anymore. and also if finish work faster can go home faster also lol.

maybe give him more responsibility laugh.gif
but if copy paste files to NAS also cannot then can only show once.
but fail again then just scold him say "take notes la dey!"
build character laugh.gif
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what position? your intern so pannai punya leh
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intern hahhaha

job is creating AI, RPA, LLM for internal use
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intern hahhaha

job is creating AI, RPA, LLM for internal use
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your company job very interesting leh, do you accept unker bo?
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fail his/her intership
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Let him screw up.
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Send him to do others job.
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you all need to sign off some form or what one before the internship end kan
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you all need to sign off some form or what one before the internship end kan
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I tell him inform me once it is done for add logo task. Almost end of Nov. Job given on 1 Nov. All socmed video no post, secretary question jor
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if he takes 1 yr, also consider inform u wut. lol. set deadline ler. tell him u do liddis, dont later kaupehkauboh if fail.
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if he takes 1 yr, also consider inform u wut. lol. set deadline ler. tell him u do liddis, dont later kaupehkauboh if fail.
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Nov 29 2025, 01:16 AM)
what college/uni?
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TS needs to set proper targets and deadlines.

Complete this task by this date. TS signs off. Move on to the next task.

If you leave something open ended aka "suka hati ko la, do your best, ayam a chill boss." then you will get this kind of results lor.

Don't be that guy "I don't know what I want, but I know what I like. Good luck bro". Be clear.

edit: also graphic designer jobs just kasi offload to AI la. just avoid flags lol.

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you all need to sign off some form or what one before the internship end kan
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Got 1 experience, intern push for early sign off during a VIPs visit. Once sign off, fuuhh... Straight ponteng, HR call don't want to answer it. He suddenly appear on final day without us knowing cos we're not on site. I think he wants the allowance.

Being a "nice" guy, I let him have full pay.

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Nov 29 2025, 08:37 AM)
TS needs to set proper targets and deadlines.

Complete this task by this date. TS signs off. Move on to the next task.

If you leave something open ended aka "suka hati ko la, do your best, ayam a chill boss." then you will get this kind of results lor.

Don't be that guy "I don't know what I want, but I know what I like. Good luck bro". Be clear.

edit: also graphic designer jobs just kasi offload to AI la. just avoid flags lol.
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I guess some ppl just 犯贱 prefer asshole mean colleague tembak him and give pressure

QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Nov 29 2025, 08:42 AM)
Got 1 experience, intern push for early sign off during a VIPs visit. Once sign off, fuuhh... Straight ponteng, HR call don't want to answer it. He suddenly appear on final day without us knowing cos we're not on site. I think he wants the allowance.

Being a "nice" guy, I let him have full pay.
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Your kompeni intern also big red flag. I think my kompeni will do the same
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Nov 28 2025, 09:25 PM)
Actually he is not my responsibility also. The supervisor shud be the secretary. Just teach him when he dunno. Actually secretary more garang, maybe he dun dare no do since secretary direct deal with him now
So the secretary the acting supervisor will write the performance lipot of his intern? What happened if failed the intern?
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Someone should write the report for the intern.

If intern fail - just repeat intern next semester and pay another semester fees.
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Nov 29 2025, 09:40 AM)
I guess some ppl just 犯贱 prefer asshole mean colleague tembak him and give pressure
Your kompeni intern also big red flag. I think my kompeni will do the same
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Not really being mean. Sometimes it is more kind to set out clear deliverables and have a structured plan. Gives them a clear purpose and direction.

Personally, I find that this works best for entry level and mid level positions. The super seniors will probably fark me upside down if I tried this on them lol.
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From what i observed on gen Z's is that most of them have this "u pay me RM10, I'm just gonna deliver RM5 quality" kinda attitude. Unlike the previous generation of people where we need to prove our worth first before we can demand more pay, these new generation of people are the entire opposite. To them, they expect the employer to give a show of good faith first by paying them handsomely, only then they will "try" to learn as they go and "try" to put in extra effort. Pendek kata, they are a generation of entitled brats.

Also, if they think that the job that u gave them are menial, entry-level and beneath their idealistic job (like your case of adding logo, printing waybill and organising files), they would not do it. And even if they do, it's going to be half-assed. They will never see these kind of job as an added experience, nor a stepping stone whereby if you do it well and prove your worth, the employer will give you more challenging jobs and ultimately reward you. They are a very shallow minded generation of people who cant see beyond the jobscope they are given.

And yes, i agree that these kind of entitled attitude is not only specific to Gen Z's, previous generation punya orang pun ada ramai juga. Just that previous gen people get accustomed to the reality of work and insaf way sooner than the current generation. Current gen punya attitude and reluctantness to learn is really mind boggling.
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QUOTE(cakoilembutgebu @ Nov 29 2025, 11:40 AM)
From what i observed on gen Z's is that most of them have this "u pay me RM10, I'm just gonna deliver RM5 quality" kinda attitude. Unlike the previous generation of people where we need to prove our worth first before we can demand more pay, these new generation of people are the entire opposite. To them, they expect the employer to give a show of good faith first by paying them handsomely, only then they will "try" to learn as they go and "try" to put in extra effort. Pendek kata, they are a generation of entitled brats.

Also, if they think that the job that u gave them are menial, entry-level and beneath their idealistic job (like your case of adding logo, printing waybill and organising files), they would not do it. And even if they do, it's going to be half-assed. They will never see these kind of job as an added experience, nor a stepping stone whereby if you do it well and prove your worth, the employer will give you more challenging jobs and ultimately reward you. They are a very shallow minded generation of people who cant see beyond the jobscope they are given.

And yes, i agree that these kind of entitled attitude is not only specific to Gen Z's, previous generation punya orang pun ada ramai juga. Just that previous gen people get accustomed to the reality of work and insaf way sooner than the current generation. Current gen punya attitude and reluctantness to learn is really mind boggling.
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Gen Z raised by Gen X parents.

So what Baby Boomers gen have done to Gen X people that makes Gen X raised their kids like this?

Don't blame Gen Z being problem. It's the previous generations that refused to evolve/change and insist on working with dinosaur company policy/workflows.
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You also encounter same thing? Is it intern or actual employee?
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Its the same intern and employee since 2024, two intern made police report because got scolded, one employee only work one day tomolo quit…fuhh

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QUOTE(xpole @ Nov 29 2025, 11:45 AM)
Gen Z raised by Gen X parents.

So what Baby Boomers gen have done to Gen X people that makes Gen X raised their kids like this?

Don't blame Gen Z being problem. It's the previous generations that refused to evolve/change and insist on working with dinosaur company policy/workflows.
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If they are still an underage kid, they can blame their parents for whatever mistake they do. But already an adult and going into the workforce, and can still blame parents for their shortcomings and lackadasical attitude, well...that says alot about their maturity and mindset
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Because internship is a requirement by school. They know that they can afford to shake leg for few months get RM500 pocket money. Interns these days not blur2 anymore do everything like full-time employee for cheap. They know what is the bich work and they know what build their CV.
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QUOTE(motherland @ Nov 29 2025, 11:52 AM)
Its the same intern and employee since 2024, two intern made police report because got scolded, one employee only work one day tomolo quit…fuhh
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QUOTE(xpole @ Nov 29 2025, 11:45 AM)
Gen Z raised by Gen X parents.

So what Baby Boomers gen have done to Gen X people that makes Gen X raised their kids like this?

Don't blame Gen Z being problem. It's the previous generations that refused to evolve/change and insist on working with dinosaur company policy/workflows.
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Boomers failed as parent teach nothing to Gen X.

There is a theory those boomers are all hippie fucks that only want to earn money enjoy life, making children is accident terpancut dalam come out got baby. They think feed them stomach full enough liao, zero education. Gen X also the first generation to get full exposure to the screen aka TV, introduced by hippie boomers that refuse to do proper parenting.

Those boomers also characteristically like to vote in many braindead policy that wont survive long term, we gen X are paying for THEIR enjoyment. Now we pulak have to work hard to reverse all the fuckery they did.

That's why naturally we expected a lot from Gen Z. I wouldn't say gen Z is the problem, the main problem we are experiencing compounding effect from mistakes from boomers, making our life hard and we place too much hope for gen Z to do BETTER than us because we already foresee a lot of effort required to undo all the fuckery in this world. Unfortunately the current world promote ez YOLO lifestyle because low birth rate, at the same time world moving a lot faster compared to before.

tl;dr boomers is the problem. Gen X is the victim, gen Z is expected to do a lot better to help gen X.
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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Nov 29 2025, 08:42 AM)
Got 1 experience, intern push for early sign off during a VIPs visit. Once sign off, fuuhh... Straight ponteng, HR call don't want to answer it. He suddenly appear on final day without us knowing cos we're not on site. I think he wants the allowance.

Being a "nice" guy, I let him have full pay.
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wa you so nice :X
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fuh, kasi setori sikit lol, wat happened
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Nothing serious…my colleague brief them rules, dos and donts, he added that no matter who youre whether got cable, vips parents he dont give shit (maybe they cant handle the tone of voice and the language used) btw this happened not on the same time early 2024 and 2025 meaning that 2 police report, but since its not under criminal act, police just hand it to management to handle the case something like that, not 100% accurate since i dont want to kepochi, if those two were under me ill just let them sleep if they get the job done, dont want to pening kepala
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QUOTE(motherland @ Nov 29 2025, 09:19 PM)
Nothing serious…my colleague brief them rules, dos and donts, he added that no matter who youre whether got cable, vips parents he dont give shit (maybe they cant handle the tone of voice and the language used) btw this happened not on the same time early 2024 and 2025 meaning that 2 police report, but since its not under criminal act, police just hand it to management to handle the case something like that, not 100% accurate since i dont want to kepochi, if those two were under me ill just let them sleep if they get the job done, dont want to pening kepala
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fark, two separate cases? if the same guy, maybe someone need to talk with your kolik liao. or assign the interns to someone else.

interns from the same uni? maybe blacklist that uni, really not worth the headache, it is not like the interns are really necesary also lol.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Nov 29 2025, 09:26 PM)
fark, two separate cases? if the same guy, maybe someone need to talk with your kolik liao. or assign the interns to someone else.

interns from the same uni? maybe blacklist that uni, really not worth the headache, it is not like the interns are really necesary also lol.
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Nov 29 2025, 10:24 AM)
Someone should write the report for the intern.

If intern fail - just repeat intern next semester and pay another semester fees.
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Failed intern will kenot graduate gar??

QUOTE(loserguy @ Nov 29 2025, 10:46 AM)
Not really being mean. Sometimes it is more kind to set out clear deliverables and have a structured plan. Gives them a clear purpose and direction.

Personally, I find that this works best for entry level and mid level positions. The super seniors will probably fark me upside down if I tried this on them lol.
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I believe I make it clear to show his work to secretary after he complete one, if the format ok just proceed with the rest. In the end wat also no show. At there blur blur har har har?

QUOTE(cakoilembutgebu @ Nov 29 2025, 11:40 AM)
From what i observed on gen Z's is that most of them have this "u pay me RM10, I'm just gonna deliver RM5 quality" kinda attitude. Unlike the previous generation of people where we need to prove our worth first before we can demand more pay, these new generation of people are the entire opposite. To them, they expect the employer to give a show of good faith first by paying them handsomely, only then they will "try" to learn as they go and "try" to put in extra effort. Pendek kata, they are a generation of entitled brats.

Also, if they think that the job that u gave them are menial, entry-level and beneath their idealistic job (like your case of adding logo, printing waybill and organising files), they would not do it. And even if they do, it's going to be half-assed. They will never see these kind of job as an added experience, nor a stepping stone whereby if you do it well and prove your worth, the employer will give you more challenging jobs and ultimately reward you. They are a very shallow minded generation of people who cant see beyond the jobscope they are given.

And yes, i agree that these kind of entitled attitude is not only specific to Gen Z's, previous generation punya orang pun ada ramai juga. Just that previous gen people get accustomed to the reality of work and insaf way sooner than the current generation. Current gen punya attitude and reluctantness to learn is really mind boggling.
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QUOTE(poooky @ Nov 29 2025, 12:16 PM)
Because internship is a requirement by school. They know that they can afford to shake leg for few months get RM500 pocket money. Interns these days not blur2 anymore do everything like full-time employee for cheap. They know what is the bich work and they know what build their CV.
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I see a lot of fb ad hire intern. If they are not serious with work, Shud hv just abolish intern all together

QUOTE(motherland @ Nov 29 2025, 09:19 PM)
Nothing serious…my colleague brief them rules, dos and donts, he added that no matter who youre whether got cable, vips parents he dont give shit (maybe they cant handle the tone of voice and the language used) btw this happened not on the same time early 2024 and 2025 meaning that 2 police report, but since its not under criminal act, police just hand it to management to handle the case something like that, not 100% accurate since i dont want to kepochi, if those two were under me ill just let them sleep if they get the job done, dont want to pening kepala
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