Breaking news - Towering inferno HK
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 Nov 26 2025, 05:51 PM, updated 2d ago
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Nov 26 2025, 05:57 PM
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Ooof.. Real coffin home.
Edit: RIP. 14 people confirmed dead so far. I didn't expect the fire will engulf the whole building and spread to other buildings. Fire engulfs Hong Kong residential building killing at least 14 people, trapping others This post has been edited by JohnL77: Nov 26 2025, 11:56 PM |
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Nov 26 2025, 05:58 PM
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But how? several building caught fire is unnatural.
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Nov 26 2025, 05:58 PM
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Reno or new building ?
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Nov 26 2025, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(Acher13 @ Nov 26 2025, 05:58 PM) But how? several building caught fire is unnatural. Cause the scarf folding is using bamboo material. |
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Nov 26 2025, 06:06 PM
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Looks like buildings under construction, but residents are trapped?
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Nov 26 2025, 06:08 PM
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Wong Hei and Kevin Cheng reach there already??...owai Joke aside, hopefully no people died WaterBuffalo and smallcrab liked this post
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Nov 26 2025, 06:11 PM
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Nov 26 2025, 06:12 PM
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Too close?
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Nov 26 2025, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(Acher13 @ Nov 26 2025, 05:58 PM) But how? several building caught fire is unnatural. bamboo + wind |
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Nov 26 2025, 06:31 PM
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why on earth they use bamboo as scaffolding materials?
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Nov 26 2025, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(PathofLife @ Nov 26 2025, 06:08 PM) Wong Hei and Kevin Cheng reach there already??...owai Nicholas Tse and Simon YamJoke aside, hopefully no people died WaterBuffalo and PathofLife liked this post
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Nov 26 2025, 06:35 PM
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Nov 26 2025, 06:37 PM
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Inb4 salah PuAS, masalah air.
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Nov 26 2025, 06:37 PM
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Nov 26 2025, 06:42 PM
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Wadepak they approved a bamboo scaffolding for a big projects like this.
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Nov 26 2025, 06:42 PM
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I don’t get it why they still use bamboo scaffolding…
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Nov 26 2025, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Nov 26 2025, 06:42 PM) I don’t get it why they still use bamboo scaffolding… Cheap, light, durable, no maintenance, no pollution,It's just HK thing |
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Nov 26 2025, 07:13 PM
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Cant sell then burn
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Nov 26 2025, 07:16 PM
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Nov 26 2025, 07:17 PM
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Errr I thought just not long ago got such fire? 2nd incidents?
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Nov 26 2025, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(katijar @ Nov 26 2025, 06:12 PM) Too close? This is the beginning of the fire livestream.This post has been edited by ye0073: Nov 26 2025, 07:18 PM |
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Nov 26 2025, 07:19 PM
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Topkek use bamboo scaffolding, easily combustible.
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Nov 26 2025, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(OrangeGamer @ Nov 26 2025, 06:11 PM) dai lan wok ( can hear in the youtube ) |
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Nov 26 2025, 07:57 PM
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New building already on fire?
Structure strength? |
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Nov 26 2025, 08:02 PM
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it's new building right? so just to meat burnt off the skeleton should be able to withstand is it?
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Nov 26 2025, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(OrangeGamer @ Nov 26 2025, 08:02 PM) it's new building right? so just to meat burnt off the skeleton should be able to withstand is it? Not new. Under renovation. |
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Nov 26 2025, 08:15 PM
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loke must resign
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Nov 26 2025, 08:18 PM
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dulu rumah papan too close with one another result in chain fire
now buildings too close also kena chain fire who would have thought QUOTE(OrangeGamer @ Nov 26 2025, 08:02 PM) it's new building right? so just to meat burnt off the skeleton should be able to withstand is it? intense fire can deform/melt/crack core bulding structuresholy sheet, latest news is at least 12 dead for now |
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Nov 26 2025, 09:15 PM
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the bamboo plus the greeny clothes thing is just asking for fire
this is beyond saving already 7 blocks, not sure how they can put it off |
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Nov 26 2025, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Nov 26 2025, 07:57 PM) New building already on fire? Structure strength? QUOTE(OrangeGamer @ Nov 26 2025, 08:02 PM) it's new building right? so just to meat burnt off the skeleton should be able to withstand is it? It’s built in 1980sIt’s HK PPR |
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Nov 26 2025, 09:34 PM
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200 people reported missing
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Nov 26 2025, 09:36 PM
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bamboo .. wood .. gg
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Nov 26 2025, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Nov 26 2025, 09:24 PM) It’s built in 1980s but the kompleks all look like under construction?It’s HK PPR |
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Nov 26 2025, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 26 2025, 06:31 PM) why on earth they use bamboo as scaffolding materials? Because bamboo very strong and easy available.cheap as well Proven technology,just a bit flammable jer (for those dried up and being reused many times ). dickybird liked this post
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Nov 26 2025, 09:41 PM
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How it caught fire in the first place?
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Nov 26 2025, 09:42 PM
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Normal fire inside out, this outside in
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Nov 26 2025, 09:43 PM
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God save HK...
is it bcos of the bamboo they used? This post has been edited by mick84: Nov 26 2025, 09:43 PM |
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Nov 26 2025, 09:34 PM) 200 people reported missing omg |
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Nov 26 2025, 09:44 PM
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at this rate .. burnt till ash lo
hope they can save more ppl This post has been edited by bansheelipsx: Nov 26 2025, 09:44 PM |
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Nov 26 2025, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(kueks @ Nov 26 2025, 09:39 PM) but the kompleks all look like under construction? Probably the blocks undergoing façade refurbishment works |
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Nov 26 2025, 09:46 PM
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Burning for at least 5 hours
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Nov 26 2025, 09:48 PM
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do we know how many house owners in total for all the buildings?
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Nov 26 2025, 09:51 PM
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heard from my HK colleague, it is a 40 years old building which the outer wall being refurbished, that's why the scaffolding.
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Nov 26 2025, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(babayagamalaysia @ Nov 26 2025, 10:48 PM) do we know how many house owners in total for all the buildings? 4000 6 blocks |
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Nov 26 2025, 09:54 PM
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Seem like the green netting is made out of highly flammable material is the main culprit. The bamboo scaffolding make the situation worse.
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Nov 26 2025, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Nov 26 2025, 09:34 PM) 200 people reported missing Rip.Smoke kills before fire |
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Nov 26 2025, 09:57 PM
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Holy shit.. the entire thing burned??
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Nov 26 2025, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(WebDpot @ Nov 26 2025, 06:42 PM) Wadepak they approved a bamboo scaffolding for a big projects like this. Mmg like that in HK since forever.It is lighter and flexible vs steel. |
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Nov 26 2025, 09:58 PM
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walaoo ... 2pm already spotted fire ... 8 hours now
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Nov 26 2025, 09:59 PM
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13 dead as searing heat hampers Hong Kong Tai Po blaze rescue efforts
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Nov 26 2025, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Nov 26 2025, 09:51 PM) 4000 6 blocks fuck. so what happen to these homeowners? are they gonna get compensated? gg to hk insurance companies |
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Nov 26 2025, 10:14 PM
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think after this will start use less n less bamboo for scaffoldings
or possible ban on usage |
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Nov 26 2025, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(Adrian909 @ Nov 26 2025, 10:27 PM) the picture looks like it's from a film poster. |
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Nov 26 2025, 10:57 PM
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My prayers go out to all . Including the rescue teams keyibukeyi and cempedaklife liked this post
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Nov 26 2025, 10:58 PM
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watching hk news, one firefighter went up also end up dead
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QUOTE(machomama @ Nov 26 2025, 10:14 PM) think after this will start use less n less bamboo for scaffoldings It is almost certain bamboo scaffolding will be banned in HK.or possible ban on usage |
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Nov 26 2025, 11:03 PM
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sad day for HK.
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Nov 26 2025, 11:04 PM
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Holishit xhs got a video where it first started. Firstly the fire only started burning at like 3-4 storey. Less than 1 minutes, it spread up to level 10. Really no time to evacuate especially those stay high floor.
After this high rise residence price drop again |
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Nov 26 2025, 11:05 PM
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ini mesti salah buang puntung rokok terkena netting plastik smallcrab liked this post
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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Nov 26 2025, 11:04 PM) Holishit xhs got a video where it first started. Firstly the fire only started burning at like 3-4 storey. Less than 1 minutes, it spread up to level 10. Really no time to evacuate especially those stay high floor. LinkAfter this high rise residence price drop again |
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QUOTE(WebDpot @ Nov 26 2025, 06:42 PM) Wadepak they approved a bamboo scaffolding for a big projects like this. Its the Hong Kong way. There is even documentary about it.Maybe this tragedy will made them rethink about using bamboo. river.sand and countingcrows liked this post
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Nov 26 2025, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 26 2025, 11:03 PM) It is almost certain bamboo scaffolding will be banned in HK. Use bakau la |
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Nov 26 2025, 09:51 PM) 4000 6 blocks QUOTE(Adrian909 @ Nov 26 2025, 10:27 PM) Fire engulfs Hong Kong residential building killing at least 14 people, trapping others   This post has been edited by JohnL77: Nov 26 2025, 11:25 PM |
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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Nov 26 2025, 11:04 PM) Holishit xhs got a video where it first started. Firstly the fire only started burning at like 3-4 storey. Less than 1 minutes, it spread up to level 10. Really no time to evacuate especially those stay high floor. It is opposite. The property price will go up again. HK property where got cheap one.After this high rise residence price drop again |
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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Nov 26 2025, 11:04 PM) After this high rise residence price drop again Not that majority HK people have a choice … still buy buy buy |
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QUOTE(TRAZE99 @ Nov 26 2025, 09:39 PM) Because bamboo very strong and easy available.cheap as well Proven technology,just a bit flammable jer (for those dried up and being reused many times ). Yet hardly see them on fire despite heavy use in hk construction |
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Nov 27 2025, 12:11 AM) Link Taktau link, I seen from my gf phone |
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QUOTE(machomama @ Nov 26 2025, 10:14 PM) think after this will start use less n less bamboo for scaffoldings if they want to bad it they would had banned it decades agoor possible ban on usage whole world only HK uses it at such a large scale, under the pretext of cost and efficiency not Malaysia, not Singapore |
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 26 2025, 11:24 PM) Not that majority HK people have a choice … still buy buy buy now you know why Hongkies rather become underdogs in UK than become capitalist slaves in HK |
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Nov 27 2025, 12:06 AM
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bamboo scaffoldings is their tradition for long time ady, say its a lost art and skill. But I cant brain how the fire can spread to multiple buildings, dunno these are old flats or how, if all ady got ppl live there confirm gg, looking at those bird cage rooms
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new source material 4 haunted stories
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First time saw so many towers on fire. Doesn’t make sense fire can jump from one tower to another. Bamboos on fire on the exterior can burn until fire spread into concrete building?
Weird that they do renovation simultaneously for so many towers instead of one tower at a time. I wonder if HK will ban bamboos in future seeing how tragic this fire is. |
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buying condo soon?
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 27 2025, 12:13 AM) First time saw so many towers on fire. Doesn’t make sense fire can jump from one tower to another. Bamboos on fire on the exterior can burn until fire spread into concrete building? they should ban the contractors.Weird that they do renovation simultaneously for so many towers instead of one tower at a time. I wonder if HK will ban bamboos in future seeing how tragic this fire is. Somebody has to be accountable |
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QUOTE(abc2005 @ Nov 27 2025, 12:14 AM) buying condo soon? Huge fire engulfing several towers is really rare. Normally fire in condo rarely ever spread to whole tower, mostly contain within a unit or two.Think again HK really topkek with their bamboo scaffolding. This post has been edited by iGamer: Nov 27 2025, 08:57 AM |
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Nov 27 2025, 12:21 AM
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The green netting. Its plastic and very flammable. The bamboo as you can see in the videos actually holding up. So it would have been a slow burn. With strong winds, the netting can fly and then carry the flames with it. It usually happens with green houses as well. Sometimes the farmers want to save money so they burn some waste and the netting for the green house catches fire. It spreads damn fast. icemanfx liked this post
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Nov 27 2025, 12:38 AM
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this is public housing right ?
thats why alot old folks .... damn tragic .. cannot run .. lift down |
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Nov 27 2025, 12:52 AM) Somehow I feel confident |
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QUOTE(Adrian909 @ Nov 26 2025, 11:27 PM) Great example of why fire code in buildings are so damn important, otherwise it's a massive tasks to undertake. Like, how do the firefighters even begin to tackle this scale of incident? dickybird liked this post
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Nov 27 2025, 12:41 AM
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first time in 30 years?
if yes then some thing new caused the fire. |
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Nov 27 2025, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Nov 27 2025, 12:40 AM) Somehow I feel confident Confident about what? |
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Nov 27 2025, 01:16 AM
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Holy fuck! That’s scary….. RIP to the deceased
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QUOTE(Juan86 @ Nov 26 2025, 08:15 PM) loke must resign Topkek semua salahan Anthony ka??............yini Nga Kor Ming department lah!! |
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live cam, still burning. 香港の集合住宅で大規模火災 36人死亡、29人けが（7人重体）、279人行方不明 |
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Nov 27 2025, 05:38 AM
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Press conference soon.
For those who can read Chinese, the latest info and discussion can follow lihkg forum mega thread |
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Nov 27 2025, 05:39 AM
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279 ppl still missing..... God bless
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Nov 27 2025, 05:56 AM
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Searching floor 13-23 now .
8 block housing project 1 block no fire investigation of the material on the non fire block construction materials, found out the safety net is non compliance material, and some Styrofoam on the window 3 personnel from construction company is under arrest by police |
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Nov 27 2025, 06:03 AM
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Many died and still unaccounted for. So expected death number would be higher. |
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Nov 27 2025, 06:10 AM
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7 block fire, 3 block under control
Abang Bomba said searching till top floor may be around this evening. god bless ppl trap at upper floor |
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QUOTE(soulknight @ Nov 27 2025, 07:03 AM) Many died and still unaccounted for. So expected death number would be higher. |
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Said the green color netting covering the bamboo is not fire proof which by their code must be fire proof… cut cost.
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Nov 27 2025, 06:22 AM
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Well, we have quite a lot of mini HKs style condos here! If this can happen in HK, then it can happen in Mesia…..matter of time, I suppose.
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Nov 27 2025, 06:22 AM
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 27 2025, 06:20 AM) Said the green color netting covering the bamboo is not fire proof which by their code must be fire proof… cut cost. some people arrested by the police already. how could they did big renovation all at a time. plus too much cutting corners. They use bamboo that was backed by bamboo cartel to create the unsafe scaffolding. |
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Nov 27 2025, 06:28 AM
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QUOTE(keybearer @ Nov 27 2025, 12:41 AM) Like pissing on a burning jungle. they will need planes to dump water.Great example of why fire code in buildings are so damn important, otherwise it's a massive tasks to undertake. Like, how do the firefighters even begin to tackle this scale of incident? i wonder if tying the base of the scaffolding to a truck and pulling will cause all the scaffolding to collapse and fall or not. that way will not lead to fire running up the building |
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Nov 27 2025, 06:38 AM
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time to change building code. the old fire separation distance may not be sufficient could be due to stronger wind speed (climate change) etc.
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Nov 27 2025, 07:20 AM
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Nov 27 2025, 07:28 AM) they will need planes to dump water. Latest news is the fire is now under control but a lot of smoke and firefighters are going in to search for survivors. Death toll expected to rise. Now already rise to 44 with another 45 people seriously injuredi wonder if tying the base of the scaffolding to a truck and pulling will cause all the scaffolding to collapse and fall or not. that way will not lead to fire running up the building This post has been edited by 30624770: Nov 27 2025, 07:21 AM |
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Nov 27 2025, 07:43 AM
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Are those buildings under construction with residents inside? How can the fire spread so fast?
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Nov 27 2025, 07:54 AM
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[Tai Po Wang Fuk Court Fire]
Death toll rises to 44 56 injured, with 15 in critical condition Fire Services Department: Still encountering difficulties advancing to the upper floors of two towers Operation expected to continue until at least dusk。 God bless those who still trap at upper floor |
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Nov 27 2025, 07:59 AM
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QUOTE(sansaboy @ Nov 27 2025, 08:54 AM) [Tai Po Wang Fuk Court Fire] Death toll sure going to rise when they go door to doorDeath toll rises to 44 56 injured, with 15 in critical condition Fire Services Department: Still encountering difficulties advancing to the upper floors of two towers Operation expected to continue until at least dusk。 God bless those who still trap at upper floor |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:02 AM
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thanks to legacy anglo regulation designed to harm hk too bad hongkie got no brain to think on their own
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Nov 27 2025, 08:17 AM
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Poor fire retardance, alleged worker smoking among fatal Hong Kong blaze theories
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society...T0A4w2mhF640a7w |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:20 AM
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QUOTE(unnamed @ Nov 27 2025, 08:05 AM) thanks to legacy anglo regulation designed to harm hk too bad hongkie got no brain to think on their own One of most expensive apartments in the world, cheapest bamboos scaffolding…. I think this tragedy will make HK govt finally ban bamboosThis post has been edited by iGamer: Nov 27 2025, 08:59 AM |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 27 2025, 09:20 AM) One of most expensive apartments in the world, cheapest bamboos scurf folding…. I think this tragedy will make HK govt finally ban bamboos Is bamboo the reason? |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:25 AM
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QUOTE(sansaboy @ Nov 27 2025, 06:10 AM) 7 block fire, 3 block under control Really weird that the fire spread to so many blocks but the authority failed to start evacuating residents when fire starts to spread to nearby towers.Abang Bomba said searching till top floor may be around this evening. god bless ppl trap at upper floor |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Nov 27 2025, 08:21 AM) Is bamboo the reason? It’s one of the easy combustible material, so it’s part if not the main reason for the fire to spread and maintain burning until such disastrous level.The other plausible culprits could be those netting and whatever combustible insulation layer they apply to the exterior of the apartment?  |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 27 2025, 09:25 AM) Really weird that the fire spread to so many blocks but the authority failed to start evacuating residents when fire starts to spread to nearby towers. Some people are saying the fire department are slow to respond They say only 1 fire engine came because originally it was category 1 fire only They didn't expect it to spread so fast |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:33 AM
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40 years old building, lack of any kind of fire prevention facilities, and same time the spread starts from the scaffolding covering outsides Phoenix_KL liked this post
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Nov 27 2025, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 27 2025, 08:28 AM) It’s one of the easy combustible material, so it’s part if not the main reason for the fire to spread and maintain burning until such disastrous level. UK got Grenfell Tower fire, same issue of combustible claddingThe other plausible culprits could be those netting and whatever combustible insulation layer they apply to the exterior of the apartment? |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:36 AM
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So this is where the fire started? Seem like the green netting is the reason why fire spread so damn fast.
Don’t know how to embed FB video now d. FB Video |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE(Acher13 @ Nov 26 2025, 06:58 PM) But how? several building caught fire is unnatural. the news say ....The fire rapidly escalated due to the presence of bamboo scaffolding and construction mesh covering the exterior of the high-rise towers, which were undergoing major renovation. Officials also reported finding Styrofoam inside the buildings, which they believe accelerated the flames through the corridors. |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE(LemonHoneyIce @ Nov 27 2025, 09:33 AM) 40 years old building, lack of any kind of fire prevention facilities, and same time the spread starts from the scaffolding covering outsides A lot of dangerous materials were stored there because of the renovation too |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 27 2025, 08:36 AM) UK got Grenfell Tower fire, same issue of combustible cladding Lucky for us our apartments are just concrete wall without need for insulation unlike seasonal countries. |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Nov 27 2025, 08:37 AM) A lot of dangerous materials were stored there because of the renovation too Each tower was already wrapped with multiple flammable materials due to the renovation work that allegedly not up to safety codes, like bbq ready to be torched |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Nov 27 2025, 07:20 AM) Latest news is the fire is now under control but a lot of smoke and firefighters are going in to search for survivors. Death toll expected to rise. Now already rise to 44 with another 45 people seriously injured yeah... 300+ people not accounted for. most say there were at home, with windows close, AC on and not aware of fire until someone knock or family members call to inform them. |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:42 AM
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Not the bamboo, is the net.
death is rising... omg.. RIP |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 26 2025, 06:31 PM) why on earth they use bamboo as scaffolding materials? Cheap and disposable |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:45 AM
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Nov 27 2025, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 26 2025, 06:31 PM) why on earth they use bamboo as scaffolding materials? it was a culture and traditional thing and yet suitable for the landscape. |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 26 2025, 06:31 PM) why on earth they use bamboo as scaffolding materials? They were really proud of it. I guess no more now |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 27 2025, 08:20 AM) One of most expensive apartments in the world, cheapest bamboos scurf folding…. I think this tragedy will make HK govt finally ban bamboos when the cream cropper workers consist of financial industry lickers no talent of governance can be expectedThis post has been edited by unnamed: Nov 27 2025, 09:16 AM |
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 Residents under similar project already raised the alarm the netting was very flammable. But the councilor dismissed them as demonic rumor,pushing the project moving. Redhunt liked this post
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Nov 27 2025, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(empstar2 @ Nov 27 2025, 08:02 AM) 44+ |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE(God Grid @ Nov 27 2025, 08:48 AM) 3 arrests? woah... someone started the fire? if move to Beijing for trial, sure makan bullet for arson case |
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Nov 27 2025, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE(God Grid @ Nov 27 2025, 08:48 AM) 3 arrests? woah... someone started the fire? i tot its the contractor? |
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Nov 27 2025, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 27 2025, 08:28 AM) It’s one of the easy combustible material, so it’s part if not the main reason for the fire to spread and maintain burning until such disastrous level. News said humidity was low yesterday, which helped the fire.The other plausible culprits could be those netting and whatever combustible insulation layer they apply to the exterior of the apartment? |
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Nov 27 2025, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Nov 26 2025, 11:16 PM) Its the Hong Kong way. There is even documentary about it. it definitely willMaybe this tragedy will made them rethink about using bamboo. sad tho that this building SOP which worked FOR YEARS.......centuries even maybe (for sure i think) has to go cos of one major incident must understand one thing........whenever changes like this come onto the blueprint.....PRICES WILL SHOOT UP it's all about costs |
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Nov 27 2025, 09:24 AM
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possible death may reach 300+
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Nov 27 2025, 09:33 AM
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when mention bamboo scaffolding, i remember Jackie Chan
best use of them for shooting his fight scenes RIP to those who perished in the fire |
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Nov 27 2025, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(Adrian909 @ Nov 26 2025, 10:27 PM) This post has been edited by United Rulez: Nov 27 2025, 09:36 AM |
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Nov 27 2025, 09:35 AM) Only need Sean Lau, Louis Koo, Andy Lau or Nicholas Tse in front to complete the movie poster  |
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Nov 27 2025, 10:25 AM
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Nov 27 2025, 10:26 AM
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salah japan
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Nov 27 2025, 11:21 AM
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More in depth coverage by Hongkies in Cantonese.
Each unit had to contribute HKD160k-180k for the major renovation. Paid huge money to have their home burnt down and lost of family members in the blaze  |
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Nov 27 2025, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 27 2025, 08:20 AM) One of most expensive apartments in the world, cheapest bamboos scaffolding…. I think this tragedy will make HK govt finally ban bamboos QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 27 2025, 08:28 AM) It’s one of the easy combustible material, so it’s part if not the main reason for the fire to spread and maintain burning until such disastrous level. The other plausible culprits could be those netting and whatever combustible insulation layer they apply to the exterior of the apartment? QUOTE(Momo33 @ Nov 27 2025, 08:37 AM) the news say .... Scaf folding using Bamboo is unique construction to HK and history. They are proud of it. Don't think it will ban.The fire rapidly escalated due to the presence of bamboo scaffolding and construction mesh covering the exterior of the high-rise towers, which were undergoing major renovation. Officials also reported finding Styrofoam inside the buildings, which they believe accelerated the flames through the corridors. Others then bamboo material, they find out many polystyrene boards lying around blocking the entrance and the window. This are highly flammable material. The boss and some worker already been arrested. The main problem for this fire spread so fast is because they scaffolding all the block. With each block is so near, fire easily wind blow to another block. They should complete 1 block at a time. Take down the scaffolding from the completed block before do another block. |
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Nov 27 2025, 11:22 AM
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how is that even possible?
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Nov 27 2025, 11:23 AM
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Nov 27 2025, 11:29 AM
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are those buildings still under construction
why are there bamboo scaffolding next to the apartment |
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Nov 27 2025, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 27 2025, 11:21 AM) Scaf folding using Bamboo is unique construction to HK and history. They are proud of it. Don't think it will ban. The irony is there was a tower on 3rd category fire just a month ago in HK, also severe fire due to bamboos and netting. But that one was legal because the building was not habited so different rules on material standards. The HK authority issued memo to every contractors after that incident to inspect their compliance to safety rules and then this historic blaze happened Others then bamboo material, they find out many polystyrene boards lying around blocking the entrance and the window. This are highly flammable material. The boss and some worker already been arrested. The main problem for this fire spread so fast is because they scaffolding all the block. With each block is so near, fire easily wind blow to another block. They should complete 1 block at a time. Take down the scaffolding from the completed block before do another block.  Also in the video got reported got ppl warned the authorities of fire hazards with this renovation, but authority dismissed the concern….heads will roll after this. |
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Nov 27 2025, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(Atrocious @ Nov 27 2025, 11:23 AM) fire insurance can claim? if can then fat dat lohhh |
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Nov 27 2025, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Nov 27 2025, 11:29 AM) are those buildings still under construction Exterior renovation, 40year old apartments.why are there bamboo scaffolding next to the apartment |
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Nov 27 2025, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 27 2025, 11:36 AM) Exterior renovation, 40year old apartments. oh I seethis is like the apartment in UK that the external cladding caught fire |
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Nov 27 2025, 11:43 AM
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Bamboo is good and nothing wrong with it. It's light, corrosion proof and cheap. When you see how people cook bamboo rice, we know thaat it's not easy to burn. The problem that cause the fire is the netting (not self extinguish material) and polystyrene (easily catch fire).
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QUOTE(stinger @ Nov 27 2025, 11:35 AM) fire insurance can claim? if can then fat dat lohhh Many ppl died, fat dat apa lj? Many broken family incoming. |
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Nov 27 2025, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Nov 27 2025, 11:43 AM) Bamboo is good and nothing wrong with it. It's light, corrosion proof and cheap. When you see how people cook bamboo rice, we know thaat it's not easy to burn. The problem that cause the fire is the netting (not self extinguish material) and polystyrene (easily catch fire). Yes, dried bamboo is combustible, much like other types of wood, and is easily ignited. Its high sugar content contributes to its flammability, and the shed leaf sheaths around the base of bamboo clumps are particularly prone to catching fire. While untreated dried bamboo burns easily, treatment with chemicals can reduce its flammability and slow the rate of combustion |
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QUOTE(stinger @ Nov 27 2025, 11:35 AM) fire insurance can claim? if can then fat dat lohhh bro, time to makan ubat lo.... iGamer liked this post
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Nov 27 2025, 11:43 AM) Bamboo is good and nothing wrong with it. It's light, corrosion proof and cheap. When you see how people cook bamboo rice, we know thaat it's not easy to burn. The problem that cause the fire is the netting (not self extinguish material) and polystyrene (easily catch fire). Now the reports mostly alleged ablaze bamboo debris were blamed for the fast spread of fire to other towers.If u watch again most of the fire footages, the main structure ablaze are the bamboos scaffolding. Those netting if flammable probably burnt away already, it was the bamboos that keep the fire ablaze. |
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Nov 27 2025, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Nov 27 2025, 11:43 AM) Bamboo is good and nothing wrong with it. It's light, corrosion proof and cheap. When you see how people cook bamboo rice, we know thaat it's not easy to burn. The problem that cause the fire is the netting (not self extinguish material) and polystyrene (easily catch fire). AI OverviewYes, bamboo can burn, and it is flammable, especially when dry. Dry bamboo burns quickly and can be used as kindling, though it can also pop and crack loudly as it burns due to pressure buildup. When burned, it produces irritating fumes and can spread fires rapidly, so it should be burned with caution. This post has been edited by Adrian909: Nov 27 2025, 11:51 AM |
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Very in depth look into the materials (Cantonese)
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Nov 27 2025, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 27 2025, 12:15 PM) Very in depth look into the materials (Cantonese) bamboo scaffolding got union 1, now become big wok already!This post has been edited by jayko: Nov 27 2025, 12:22 PM |
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QUOTE(jayko @ Nov 27 2025, 12:22 PM) bamboo scaffolding got union 1, now become big wok already! If CCP wanna ban, even wealthiest tauke also can’t do anything, later defiant tauke disappears… |
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Nov 26 2025, 06:42 PM) I don’t get it why they still use bamboo scaffolding… HK construction's proud heritage Atrocious liked this post
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 27 2025, 12:31 PM) If CCP wanna ban, even wealthiest tauke also can’t do anything, later defiant tauke disappears… the powerful interest behind union to continue use bamboo. let see if this time is the final nail in the coffin. |
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4 million Hong Kong dollars (HKD) is currently worth approximately 2,124,702 Malaysian ringgits (MYR) based on the latest exchange rates.
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something wrong with the current bamboo scaffolding supply
suddenly few cases happen high rise fire due to it. QUOTE(God Grid @ Nov 27 2025, 08:48 AM) 3 arrests? woah... someone started the fire? so many things can cause firelike welding . Maybe reno door or metal framing, then welding hot spot or spark at grounding. QUOTE(machomama @ Nov 27 2025, 09:23 AM) it definitely will so so many incident already lasad tho that this building SOP which worked FOR YEARS.......centuries even maybe (for sure i think) has to go cos of one major incident must understand one thing........whenever changes like this come onto the blueprint.....PRICES WILL SHOOT UP it's all about costs This post has been edited by Redhunt: Nov 27 2025, 12:57 PM |
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QUOTE(Redhunt @ Nov 27 2025, 01:00 PM) so many things can cause fire Any one of their resident who smokes just have to flick his almost finished cigarette out of the balcony and onto those nets and that's it..like welding . Maybe reno door or metal framing, then welding hot spot or spark at grounding. |
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QUOTE(Atrocious @ Nov 27 2025, 01:05 PM) Any one of their resident who smokes just have to flick his almost finished cigarette out of the balcony and onto those nets and that's it.. thats why using this scaffolding for inhabited complexes is inviting trouble. So many things can go wrong |
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QUOTE(Redhunt @ Nov 27 2025, 01:01 PM) so so many incident already la MAJOR one's layour "so so many" got receive publicity like this? |
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Damn scary man RIP one firefighter |
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QUOTE(God Grid @ Nov 27 2025, 08:48 AM) 3 arrests? woah... someone started the fire? 2 directors, 1 consultant. |
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QUOTE(Supreme1394 @ Nov 26 2025, 07:19 PM) Topkek use bamboo scaffolding, easily combustible. |
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Nov 27 2025, 11:43 AM) Bamboo is good and nothing wrong with it. It's light, corrosion proof and cheap. When you see how people cook bamboo rice, we know thaat it's not easy to burn. The problem that cause the fire is the netting (not self extinguish material) and polystyrene (easily catch fire). Bamboo for cooking is green 1. The scaffolding is dried 1. Got different 1 le… |
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Nov 27 2025, 01:30 PM
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Netting+Bamboo = Recipe for disaster
They need safety officer trained by DUPONT to supervise & advise. I would have banned the bamboo & ensure the netting is fire retardant. |
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Nov 27 2025, 01:38 PM
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Debate & Pressure to Ban
Some experts — e.g. from the Hong Kong Institution of Engineers (HKIE) — have publicly argued for a ban, citing difficulties in uniformly assessing safety of bamboo scaffolding (variability of bamboo, weather vulnerability, higher risk over long-term use). RTHK News Others — notably workers’ unions — oppose a ban, arguing that many accidents stem from poor workplace management rather than bamboo itself. They warn a ban could threaten thousands of jobs. PS: They rather listen to a bunch of lowly educated contractor worker union than the highly educated & trained Institution of Engineers? |
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Nov 27 2025, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 27 2025, 02:30 PM) Netting+Bamboo = Recipe for disaster Unironically if that's the standard approved configuration in HK guideline then the highest authority is the one at fault. They need safety officer trained by DUPONT to supervise & advise. I would have banned the bamboo & ensure the netting is fire retardant. The inspecting officer is just ticking boxes on site according to that. |
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Nov 27 2025, 01:43 PM
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Terrible to be caught upstairs when inferno happening downstairs with no way out other than via the window.
Condolences and RIP. Stay low floor kena killed by flood. Stay high floor kena killed by fire. Which is the safest floor to stay at? |
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Nov 27 2025, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Nov 27 2025, 01:43 PM) Terrible to be caught upstairs when inferno happening downstairs with no way out other than via the window. Space?Condolences and RIP. Stay low floor kena killed by flood. Stay high floor kena killed by fire. Which is the safest floor to stay at? |
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Nov 27 2025, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 27 2025, 01:38 PM) Debate & Pressure to Ban I learned from socmed and youtube that, earlier this year, HK authorities ruled that half of the scaffoldings have to be made from metal.Some experts — e.g. from the Hong Kong Institution of Engineers (HKIE) — have publicly argued for a ban, citing difficulties in uniformly assessing safety of bamboo scaffolding (variability of bamboo, weather vulnerability, higher risk over long-term use). RTHK News Others — notably workers’ unions — oppose a ban, arguing that many accidents stem from poor workplace management rather than bamboo itself. They warn a ban could threaten thousands of jobs. PS: They rather listen to a bunch of lowly educated contractor worker union than the highly educated & trained Institution of Engineers? They already knew the risk - no just fire, but other risks, e.g. not as sturdy as metal. |
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Nov 27 2025, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Nov 27 2025, 02:44 PM) I learned from socmed and youtube that, earlier this year, HK authorities ruled that half of the scaffoldings have to be made from metal. hongkong is prone to typhoonThey already knew the risk - no just fire, but other risks, e.g. not as sturdy as metal. that bamboo scaffolding obviously is a grave hazard during typhoon This post has been edited by desmond2020: Nov 27 2025, 03:39 PM |
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Nov 27 2025, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 27 2025, 01:30 PM) Netting+Bamboo = Recipe for disaster As per the video I posted, it’s alleged that many HK contractors may have ignore the requirements for fire retardant netting becoz such netting cannot be reused. Fire retardant netting will become fragile under sun whilst normal netting can be reused multiple times.They need safety officer trained by DUPONT to supervise & advise. I would have banned the bamboo & ensure the netting is fire retardant. |
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Nov 27 2025, 03:37 PM
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Nov 27 2025, 03:38 PM
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Nov 27 2025, 04:03 PM
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   Death toll hits 55 in Hong Kong’s worst fire in 7 decades https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society...gation-launched - 55 people, including a firefighter, have died. Fifty one were found dead at the scene. - As of 2.30pm, 76 people are in hospital – 15 in critical condition, 28 deemed serious - Full-scale rescue work is ongoing, with a woman, an elderly man and pets evacuated from buildings - The eight residential blocks in the estate had been undergoing renovations since July 2024, sheathed in bamboo scaffolding and green mesh Wat!!! Under renovations???!!! When I see the scaffoldings and green nettings, in yesterday's news, I thought the buildings were still under construction. 😵💫😵💫😵💫 "About 280 are still unaccounted for and rescue work continues amid flames now retreating onto the upper floors of three of the residential blocks." This post has been edited by ScooterBoi: Nov 27 2025, 04:04 PM |
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Nov 27 2025, 04:34 PM
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4 blocks' fire extingushed, 3 blocks fire under control..
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Nov 27 2025, 05:09 PM
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there's still some fire inside yo.. 'At least 55 dead, 279 missing' |
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Nov 27 2025, 05:29 PM
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Wonder all this 8 block have to pull down or not.
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Nov 27 2025, 05:34 PM
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Towering Inferno.. looks like good name for upcoming HK fire fighting movie
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Nov 27 2025, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(Lancer07 @ Nov 27 2025, 08:47 AM) Residents under similar project already raised the alarm the netting was very flammable. But the councilor dismissed them as demonic rumor,pushing the project moving. |
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Nov 27 2025, 05:52 PM
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This video interview whistleblower who earlier engaged the authority multiple times to warn of fire hazard about the apartments renovation, the authorities brushed his warning aside and claimed the project post minimal risks. Heads will roll soon…
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Nov 27 2025, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Nov 27 2025, 05:39 PM) wonder where the councilor now.. wonder how he/she feels now being as indirect murderer.. hope he/she can sleep well at night   She said dunno the project status and cannot comments, meanwhile HK netizens don't buy off her excuses. |
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Nov 27 2025, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 27 2025, 01:13 PM) Exactly how hanging curtains caught fire and 🔥 upwards upwardsOne can only watch 20+yo building facade refurbishment works likely involve painting, imaging burning with drums of paint on scaffolding platform and stock at corridors This post has been edited by jojolicia: Nov 27 2025, 08:42 PM |
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Nov 27 2025, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(stinger @ Nov 27 2025, 11:35 AM) fire insurance can claim? if can then fat dat lohhh If whole family is inside there during fire..no one left to claim. |
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Nov 27 2025, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Nov 27 2025, 05:34 PM) Towering Inferno.. looks like good name for upcoming HK fire fighting movie There’s already one, hence the title  |
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Nov 27 2025, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(GHBZDK @ Nov 27 2025, 08:24 PM) There’s already one, hence the title Most youngsters don't know this movie GHBZDK liked this post
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Nov 27 2025, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 27 2025, 05:29 PM) Wonder all this 8 block have to pull down or not. they are under construction building?Look bad shape and weakened structure after fire. |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(commonsense @ Nov 27 2025, 07:49 PM) they are under construction building? Nope. Renovation. |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:40 PM
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Latest update, parished body count 65
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Nov 27 2025, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Nov 27 2025, 07:35 PM) Most youngsters don't know this movie Im born 20 years after...i random picked it at speedy video 20 years ago  |
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Nov 27 2025, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(commonsense @ Nov 27 2025, 07:49 PM) they are under construction building? old highrise over 40 years dythe construction work is to upgrade the facade the fee per unit have to bear is whooping HKD 160,000 for unit with the smallest buildup area kekwa |
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Nov 27 2025, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 27 2025, 08:45 PM) old highrise over 40 years dy Whoever introduced sinking fund for apartment owners in mesia ought to be given a tunship. HK don’t have such thing hence when it comes to renovation/refurbishment, owners gotta fork out lump sum. Those who disagreed would eventually need to pay.the construction work is to upgrade the facade the fee per unit have to bear is whooping HKD 160,000 for unit with the smallest buildup area kekwa yhtan liked this post
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Nov 27 2025, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(keybearer @ Nov 26 2025, 06:06 PM) Looks like buildings under construction, but residents are trapped? Under renovation |
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Nov 27 2025, 09:32 PM
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contractors / suppliers itu ccp scammer ka?
use flammable green mesh and flammable foam on windows |
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Nov 27 2025, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 27 2025, 01:38 PM) Debate & Pressure to Ban To be fair,.both side have a point unlike.metal scaffolding which is standard bamboo isn't so there is a risk of fire.Some experts — e.g. from the Hong Kong Institution of Engineers (HKIE) — have publicly argued for a ban, citing difficulties in uniformly assessing safety of bamboo scaffolding (variability of bamboo, weather vulnerability, higher risk over long-term use). RTHK News Others — notably workers’ unions — oppose a ban, arguing that many accidents stem from poor workplace management rather than bamboo itself. They warn a ban could threaten thousands of jobs. PS: They rather listen to a bunch of lowly educated contractor worker union than the highly educated & trained Institution of Engineers? The workers are also correct that if u don't practice proper safety standards, sure asking for trouble no matter how safe the materials are. It's like pumping petrol, there is emergency switch to stop petrol flow yet if driver bodoh leave car engine running & smoking while filling up sure asking for trouble. |
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Nov 27 2025, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Nov 27 2025, 09:03 PM) Whoever introduced sinking fund for apartment owners in mesia ought to be given a tunship. HK don’t have such thing hence when it comes to renovation/refurbishment, owners gotta fork out lump sum. Those who disagreed would eventually need to pay. This new to me… sinking fund from UK and commonwealth and many other countries also got and even USA got HOA fee. Hk as former uk colony somehow skipped this?? |
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Nov 27 2025, 11:22 PM
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+ Scaffolding net + Stack Styrofoam (flammable insulation) on the window + Smoking construction worker near all the flammable materials. + 2 Director & 1 Consultant arrested |
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Nov 27 2025, 11:36 PM
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Nov 27 2025, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Nov 27 2025, 10:52 PM) This new to me… sinking fund from UK and commonwealth and many other countries also got and even USA got HOA fee. Hk as former uk colony somehow skipped this?? HK property market is screwed up. It's not geared towards owners benefits. That is why their richest people all do property and property related biz. They get extremely rich because even the government put the biz people interest first. Why? HK tax is very low.Property related revenue are major source of income for the government. This is actually something from British days until today even after China takes over, the practice still remains yhtan, sadlyfalways, and 1 other liked this post
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Nov 28 2025, 12:33 AM
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Death toll rises to 75
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Nov 28 2025, 12:45 AM
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bamboo scaffolding is to be blamed and will be replaced by metal scaffolding soon.
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Nov 28 2025, 12:54 AM
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cant be just a smoker , the building is occupied
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Nov 28 2025, 01:05 AM
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no body, just assume missing.
 Hong Kong police arrest construction firm bosses over fire; death toll hits 83 with 300 missing https://www.reuters.com/world/china/hong-ko...ree-2025-11-26/ This post has been edited by Phoenix_KL: Nov 28 2025, 01:36 AM |
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Nov 28 2025, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(Atrocious @ Nov 28 2025, 01:08 AM) Gosh the count increase so fast, are they those found trapped in the building as authority starts going in now?This post has been edited by jojolicia: Nov 28 2025, 01:30 AM |
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Nov 28 2025, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Nov 27 2025, 04:03 PM) Death toll hits 55 in Hong Kong’s worst fire in 7 decades https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society...gation-launched - 55 people, including a firefighter, have died. Fifty one were found dead at the scene. - As of 2.30pm, 76 people are in hospital – 15 in critical condition, 28 deemed serious - Full-scale rescue work is ongoing, with a woman, an elderly man and pets evacuated from buildings - The eight residential blocks in the estate had been undergoing renovations since July 2024, sheathed in bamboo scaffolding and green mesh Wat!!! Under renovations???!!! When I see the scaffoldings and green nettings, in yesterday's news, I thought the buildings were still under construction. 😵💫😵💫😵💫 "About 280 are still unaccounted for and rescue work continues amid flames now retreating onto the upper floors of three of the residential blocks." The blaze broke out at Wang Fuk Court, a large housing complex in Hong Kong's Tai Po district, at 14:51 local time on Wednesday (06:51 GMT). Wang Fuk Court consists of eight tower blocks, each 31 storeys high. Seven have been affected by the fire, Tai Po district councillor Mui Siu-fung told BBC Chinese. Built in 1983, the tower blocks were undergoing renovations when the fire broke out. Tai Po is a residential district in the northern part of Hong Kong, near the city of Shenzhen on the Chinese mainland. The complex provides 1,984 apartments for some 4,600 residents, according to a 2021 government census. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxe9r7wjgro.amp ---+---+--- Under renovation since July 2024 and the buildings are wrapped with bamboo scaffoldings and green nettings, and thousands of residents still living there and moving in and out daily... windows fully blocked and enclosed by the nettings... still okay? It's a fire trap and disaster awaiting anyone - any resident or outsider - to set it alight. And it's not one building under renovation, but all 8 buildings under going renovation at one go. When the final death toll is confirmed, everyone will look like fools. |
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Nov 28 2025, 01:35 AM
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Wonder how many from other blocks managed to escape when fire only just started.
No one could've predicted all 8 blocks to be engulfed in minutes.... |
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Nov 28 2025, 01:43 AM
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Grenfell Tower vibes. Flammable cladding killing people with fire and fumes.
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Nov 28 2025, 03:18 AM
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Nov 28 2025, 01:30 AM) It's a fire trap and disaster awaiting anyone - any resident or outsider - to set it alight. And it's not one building under renovation, but all 8 buildings under going renovation at one go. When the final death toll is confirmed, everyone will look like fools. QUOTE(dickybird @ Nov 28 2025, 01:43 AM) Grenfell Tower vibes. Flammable cladding killing people with fire and fumes. death toll will far exceed grenfell. buildings are taller and denser, and 7 buildings on fire vs one, and majority of residents are elderly... national tragedy and mourning day |
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Nov 28 2025, 03:29 AM
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Hong Kong going to shit under CCP rule. Death toll could be in the hundreds.
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Nov 28 2025, 06:31 AM
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Nov 28 2025, 04:29 AM) Hong Kong going to shit under CCP rule. Death toll could be in the hundreds. This also salah CCP? |
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Nov 28 2025, 06:36 AM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Nov 28 2025, 06:31 AM) This also salah CCP? I doubt you would see them covering so many buildings in netting if HK is under British rule (and standards).This one is typical China cincai standard, very dun care about safety or human life. This post has been edited by Hobbez: Nov 28 2025, 06:38 AM |
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Nov 28 2025, 06:37 AM
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The Reno has been going on since 2024. Topkek on year no finish. Still want to scaffold all 8 units at once.
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Nov 28 2025, 06:46 AM
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Nov 28 2025, 06:36 AM) I doubt you would see them covering so many buildings in netting if HK is under British rule (and standards). Maybe affected by China's cut cost culture.This one is typical China cincai standard, very dun care about safety or human life. Edit: My mistake, the main con actually won the tender with one of the highest prices. This post has been edited by river.sand: Nov 28 2025, 07:25 AM |
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Nov 28 2025, 06:55 AM
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Opening unit by unit, door by door like opening blind boxes..
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Nov 28 2025, 07:42 AM
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Nov 28 2025, 07:46 AM
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also why if you live in condos... buy lower floor better
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Nov 28 2025, 07:46 AM
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Nov 28 2025, 06:36 AM) I doubt you would see them covering so many buildings in netting if HK is under British rule (and standards). walau eh like this ah?This one is typical China cincai standard, very dun care about safety or human life. macam india very good standard? |
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Nov 28 2025, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE(gashout @ Nov 28 2025, 08:46 AM) also why if you live in condos... buy lower floor better not such thing as lower floor units in many modern condos now since the first 10 floors are for parking lots. older flats / apartments in Malaysia also got cases of fires the past few years.. Luckily affected units are adjacent ones and didn't engulf half the block. This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Nov 28 2025, 07:49 AM |
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Nov 28 2025, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE(iamSUSUman @ Nov 27 2025, 11:22 PM) + Scaffolding net + Stack Styrofoam (flammable insulation) on the window + Smoking construction worker near all the flammable materials. + 2 Director & 1 Consultant arrested the power of their union is stronk |
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Nov 28 2025, 08:10 AM
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Main cause of the fire is due to the protection net la, ady got people take some sample and burn them demonstrate, very flammable, spread very fast. Phoenix_KL and yhtan liked this post
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Nov 28 2025, 08:11 AM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 28 2025, 07:46 AM) walau eh like this ah? Who is talking about India? Lolmacam india very good standard? But Chinese like to boast they so advanced and smarter than India isn't it? Looks like not. |
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Nov 28 2025, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Nov 28 2025, 07:36 AM) I doubt you would see them covering so many buildings in netting if HK is under British rule (and standards). Where do you think this type of practice started from?This one is typical China cincai standard, very dun care about safety or human life. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera....-hong-kong-fire |
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Nov 28 2025, 08:15 AM
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QUOTE(LemonHoneyIce @ Nov 28 2025, 09:10 AM) Main cause of the fire is due to the protection net la, ady got people take some sample and burn them demonstrate, very flammable, spread very fast. That is one of the reason. The found materials like styrofoam at the windows and the contractor was storing a lot of fire hazard materials all over the buildings due to the renovation |
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Nov 28 2025, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Nov 28 2025, 08:11 AM) Who is talking about India? Lol so you are saying india is more advanced than china?But Chinese like to boast they so advanced and smarter than India isn't it? Looks like not. |
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Nov 28 2025, 08:43 AM
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Most all the missing person consider gone case? Edmund Poon will come Tai Po make video soon..
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Our apartment that build on commercial land, got water sprinkler.
Maybe HK needs to adopt this method. This post has been edited by ye0073: Nov 28 2025, 08:46 AM |
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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Nov 28 2025, 08:46 AM) Our apartment that build on commercial land, got water sprinkler. the got fire alarm and protection system lahMaybe HK needs to adopt this method. just contractor disable it |
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no fire brigade in the world can handle this type of fire, all countries should learn from this tragedy including malaysia with so many condos Phoenix_KL and fongsk liked this post
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QUOTE(LemonHoneyIce @ Nov 28 2025, 08:10 AM) Main cause of the fire is due to the protection net la, ady got people take some sample and burn them demonstrate, very flammable, spread very fast. they are suppose to use FIRE RETARDANT SAFETY NETTING but using cheap green net to cut cost, this is agood example of how corruption in a country can cause severe harm to their people Phoenix_KL liked this post
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QUOTE(thunderkingkong @ Nov 28 2025, 09:03 AM) no fire brigade in the world can handle this type of fire, all countries should learn from this tragedy including malaysia with so many condos our residential building 99% don't have cladding |
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Nov 28 2025, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(gashout @ Nov 28 2025, 08:46 AM) also why if you live in condos... buy lower floor better Buy low floor scare floodBuy high rise scare fire |
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Nov 28 2025, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Nov 28 2025, 06:46 AM) Maybe affected by China's cut cost culture. Highest price doesnt mean wont cut cost , could cut even more cause in order to win with higher price, a lot of money has to channel to someone first to get the projectEdit: My mistake, the main con actually won the tender with one of the highest prices. arkasi liked this post
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Nov 28 2025, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 27 2025, 05:52 PM) This video interview whistleblower who earlier engaged the authority multiple times to warn of fire hazard about the apartments renovation, the authorities brushed his warning aside and claimed the project post minimal risks. Heads will roll soon… common practice in chyna , you silent the one that make noise and problem solve |
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Nov 28 2025, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(thunderkingkong @ Nov 28 2025, 09:07 AM) they are suppose to use FIRE RETARDANT SAFETY NETTING but using cheap green net to cut cost, this is agood example of how corruption in a country can cause severe harm to their people Yes - but it didn’t go up overnight. It was there for a long time, same as the flammable seals on the windows etc etc. Many people saw it, were aware, what checks were made by ………… all the stakeholders who had public safety concerns? WHO failed in their responsibilities?It was a significant contract - @ HKD345m I think - so the investigation of the procurement process and contract agreement will be interesting, and damming. As the residents were paying for it there’s reports on their dissatisfaction with the process and, even before the fire, the outcomes. Of course everyone, including here, wants it cheaper - I know how MC procurement decisions are fought over tooth and nail, for savings; we’re all tuned now to expect more for less, so it will be good to find out what minimum standards and fire laws were breached. I’m not familiar with the governance and accountability for this type of building in HK but the list of actors involved will be large I’m sure. arkasi liked this post
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Nov 28 2025, 09:35 AM
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It is like incense stick:
Netting+styrofoam = wood powders, resins, herbs Bamboo = thin bamboo stick The only place in the world still known for using bamboo scaffolding on modern skyscrapers is: 🇭🇰 Hong Kong — the global exception Hong Kong is the only country/region where bamboo scaffolding is still used on high-rise and even skyscraper-height buildings (sometimes over 50–60 stories). This practice is supported by: A long cultural tradition A highly skilled, licensed workforce Government regulations that still allow bamboo scaffolding for tall buildings The strength-to-weight ratio of bamboo (which is surprisingly strong) Other places? Countries like Mainland China, India, Vietnam, Bangladesh, etc., still use bamboo scaffolding—but not on skyscrapers. It is generally limited to low- or mid-rise buildings. This post has been edited by ApocalypseSoon: Nov 28 2025, 09:45 AM |
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Nov 28 2025, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(thunderkingkong @ Nov 28 2025, 09:03 AM) no fire brigade in the world can handle this type of fire, all countries should learn from this tragedy including malaysia with so many condos Haha start with learning to design and maintaining a viable, always passable always there FEA firstThis post has been edited by jojolicia: Nov 28 2025, 11:16 AM |
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Nov 28 2025, 09:52 AM
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A firefighting water tower is a specialized vehicle equipped with an extendable boom and a nozzle for delivering large volumes of water or foam to elevated areas, such as high-rise buildings or industrial sites. These trucks enhance firefighting efficiency by allowing firefighters to combat fires from above, especially in situations where traditional methods are insufficient.
Flow Rate: Capable of delivering 70-80 liters per second, with some models reaching up to 7,000 liters per minute. |
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Nov 28 2025, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Nov 28 2025, 09:16 AM) Buy low floor scare flood low floor where got flood.Buy high rise scare fire just people throw rubbish  |
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Nov 28 2025, 10:21 AM
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I just recalled PRC got drones designed to be used for fire fighting. Just realised these drones were no where to be seen in this historical HK tragedy. Either those drones were never adopted by HK firefighters or those drones never made it into practical field usage?
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Nov 28 2025, 10:28 AM
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Death toll rose to 83 and injury 77 already. Probably will end in 3 digit death toll since ppl shouldn’t be uncontactable in a world where everyone has a mobile phone.
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Nov 28 2025, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 10:21 AM) I just recalled PRC got drones designed to be used for fire fighting. Just realised these drones were no where to be seen in this historical HK tragedy. Either those drones were never adopted by HK firefighters or those drones never made it into practical field usage? They still under 1 country 2 system.Bamboo have been banned for skyscraper in Mainland China (& Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Vietnam), but HK not yet banned it. |
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Nov 28 2025, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 28 2025, 09:35 AM) It is like incense stick: Still many Hongkies argue bamboos were not to be blamed, the netting and window seal are the real culprits.Netting+styrofoam = wood powders, resins, herbs Bamboo = thin bamboo stick The only place in the world still known for using bamboo scaffolding on modern skyscrapers is: 🇭🇰 Hong Kong — the global exception Hong Kong is the only country/region where bamboo scaffolding is still used on high-rise and even skyscraper-height buildings (sometimes over 50–60 stories). This practice is supported by: A long cultural tradition A highly skilled, licensed workforce Government regulations that still allow bamboo scaffolding for tall buildings The strength-to-weight ratio of bamboo (which is surprisingly strong) Other places? Countries like Mainland China, India, Vietnam, Bangladesh, etc., still use bamboo scaffolding—but not on skyscrapers. It is generally limited to low- or mid-rise buildings. To me, the netting and seal may have been the first materials to ignite, but it’s evidenced that subsequent material that kept the fire going and become huge blaze is the bamboos. If they use metal scaffolding, we wouldn’t have such huge blaze. |
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Nov 28 2025, 10:53 AM
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if M vertical burn got enough water pressure to save fire mou?
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Nov 28 2025, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 10:43 AM) Still many Hongkies argue bamboos were not to be blamed, the netting and window seal are the real culprits. To them, we are not the expertTo me, the netting and seal may have been the first materials to ignite, but it’s evidenced that subsequent material that kept the fire going and become huge blaze is the bamboos. If they use metal scaffolding, we wouldn’t have such huge blaze. lets expert do their job to investigate. The net and the foam is the ultimate cause of first blazing fire for sure. within 2-3min it burn from bottom to top on any of the surface. This is minus the bamboo effect |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Nov 28 2025, 11:00 AM) To them, we are not the expert This is like using charcoal for bbq, u need ignition fuel to start the fire, but ultimately the blaze is kept alive by the charcoal. lets expert do their job to investigate. The net and the foam is the ultimate cause of first blazing fire for sure. within 2-3min it burn from bottom to top on any of the surface. This is minus the bamboo effect The netting and window seal are the ignition fuel, the bamboos is equivalent to the charcoal in bbq. When we watch the fire footages, we see bamboos on fire, there’s no visible netting on fire as I believe they are quick to ignite and burnt out soon after, the subsequent material that keep the fire alive and grew big is the bamboos. |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 10:21 AM) I just recalled PRC got drones designed to be used for fire fighting. Just realised these drones were no where to be seen in this historical HK tragedy. Either those drones were never adopted by HK firefighters or those drones never made it into practical field usage? i doubt drone can steadily hold the position based on the strong wind and fire |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 26 2025, 06:13 PM) bamboo + wind if u ignorant dont simply say |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(Atrocious @ Nov 28 2025, 06:55 AM) Opening unit by unit, door by door like opening blind boxes.. Families arrive to identify bodies as Hong Kong fire death toll rises to 94 on day 3More bodies pulled from the site as firefighters use aerial ladder to extinguish lingering flames on upper floor of a block at Wang Fuk Court... https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society...continues-day-3 In one report, a few upper floor units in 3 blocks were still burning late last night (Thursday). It was estimated to fully doused by 9am today (Friday). |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 28 2025, 11:34 AM) They still under 1 country 2 system. The netting used in HK are not fire proof because it's cheaper. Even China got fire proof ones that are not expensive. That's why the whistleblower was puzzled why the contractor insist of using the non fire proof ones.Bamboo have been banned for skyscraper in Mainland China (& Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Vietnam), but HK not yet banned it. A lot of Hong Kongers are very stubborn and insist their traditional ways are better. They are not very receptive of change |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Nov 28 2025, 11:16 AM) Families arrive to identify bodies as Hong Kong fire death toll rises to 94 on day 3 I think many of them hid in the toilet. That's where they'll be found..More bodies pulled from the site as firefighters use aerial ladder to extinguish lingering flames on upper floor of a block at Wang Fuk Court... https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society...continues-day-3 In one report, a few upper floor units in 3 blocks were still burning late last night (Thursday). It was estimated to fully doused by 9am today (Friday). |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Nov 28 2025, 11:16 AM) The netting used in HK are not fire proof because it's cheaper. Even China got fire proof ones that are not expensive. That's why the whistleblower was puzzled why the contractor insist of using the non fire proof ones. The Hongkies and Jipunis rather similar, they are advanced in some way but also very regress in some other ways.A lot of Hong Kongers are very stubborn and insist their traditional ways are better. They are not very receptive of change The Jipunis keep using fax and floppy disks, Hongkies keep using bamboo scaffolding…  |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:23 AM
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based on the rescue by their fire fighter ar, can see they have long ass ladder that can go up to 100meter (tbc) or 30 stories and it cost up to RM1 million for that.
Malaysia got ar ? how well is ours bomba preparation for emergency sitaution like this ? nvm jakim more funding first. |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 11:07 AM) Still many Hongkies argue bamboos were not to be blamed, the netting and window seal are the real culprits. To me, the netting and seal may have been the first materials to ignite, but it’s evidenced that subsequent material that kept the fire going and become huge blaze is the bamboos. If they use metal scaffolding, we wouldn’t have such huge blaze. Can clearly see the bamboo burned into ashes, but many hongkie comment in YT still claim that bamboo is safe bcoz it have been painted with a fire retardant layer & it still it stand after the big fire. Changing bamboo to steel will have mitigated this fire dramatically. hongkie are really retarded. This post has been edited by ApocalypseSoon: Nov 28 2025, 11:35 AM |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Nov 27 2025, 06:22 AM) Well, we have quite a lot of mini HKs style condos here! If this can happen in HK, then it can happen in Mesia…..matter of time, I suppose. Very low chance it will happen here lah, we using metal/aluminium scaffolding, normally high rise building exterior maintenance involving in painting or water proofing only |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 28 2025, 12:33 PM) Very low chance it will happen here lah, we using metal/aluminium scaffolding, normally high rise building exterior maintenance involving in painting or water proofing only We also don't do all blocks at the same time. Usually it's block by block |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 28 2025, 11:26 AM) Can clearly see the bamboo burned into ashes, but many hongkie comment in YT still claim that bamboo is safe bcoz it have been painted with a fire retardant layer & it still it stand after the big fire. hongkie are really retarded. Yes the tragedy started by corruption, failed regulatory monitoring, none fire retardant netting and window seals. But they had use metal scaffolding, this fire probably wouldn’t engulf 7 towers. The bamboos on fire become like firecrackers, they burst with many debris and sparks. One resident witness said the bamboos on fire were like rockets. |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(bill11 @ Nov 28 2025, 11:23 AM) based on the rescue by their fire fighter ar, can see they have long ass ladder that can go up to 100meter (tbc) or 30 stories and it cost up to RM1 million for that. Ladder how tall also useless when the prop layout didn’t designed to give fire truck access into the compound. In this HK fire, the fire trucks also didn’t manage to get close to the apartments.Malaysia got ar ? how well is ours bomba preparation for emergency sitaution like this ? nvm jakim more funding first. |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(Femsroot @ Nov 28 2025, 11:10 AM) if u ignorant dont simply say look at the expert has arrivedsomebody here didn't know how forest wildfire spread which is the same concept here but somehow somebody here is expert without saying his answer, he is only expert in calling others ignorant  |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 11:39 AM) I still see YT videos and comments where Hongkies kept defending bamboo scaffolding. that bamboo scaffolder union is very powderful in hong kongYes the tragedy started by corruption, failed regulatory monitoring, none fire retardant netting and window seals. But they had use metal scaffolding, this fire probably wouldn’t engulf 7 towers. The bamboos on fire become like firecrackers, they burst with many debris and sparks. One resident witness said the bamboos on fire were like rockets. some say got link to underworld |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 28 2025, 11:26 AM) Can clearly see the bamboo burned into ashes, but many hongkie comment in YT still claim that bamboo is safe bcoz it have been painted with a fire retardant layer & it still it stand after the big fire. Changing bamboo to steel will have mitigated this fire dramatically. hongkie are really retarded. |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Nov 28 2025, 11:38 AM) We also don't do all blocks at the same time. Usually it's block by block because scaffolding is mahal, impossible can pull all in one shot, so block to block is more economical for contractorQUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 11:39 AM) I still see YT videos and comments where Hongkies kept defending bamboo scaffolding. Dried Bamboo still combustible, compare that with metal or aluminiumYes the tragedy started by corruption, failed regulatory monitoring, none fire retardant netting and window seals. But they had use metal scaffolding, this fire probably wouldn’t engulf 7 towers. The bamboos on fire become like firecrackers, they burst with many debris and sparks. One resident witness said the bamboos on fire were like rockets. |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 28 2025, 11:26 AM) Can clearly see the bamboo burned into ashes, but many hongkie comment in YT still claim that bamboo is safe bcoz it have been painted with a fire retardant layer & it still it stand after the big fire. Changing bamboo to steel will have mitigated this fire dramatically. hongkie are really retarded. https://www.facebook.com/reel/1210216587645437 |
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Nov 28 2025, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Nov 28 2025, 11:38 AM) We also don't do all blocks at the same time. Usually it's block by block The whistleblower suspect they did all at once so they can quickly complete the work and ran away overseas safely with songlap money. 日长梦多…It was said that doing few block by turn would be cheaper as they can then shift non perishable material from one block to another. So the fact that they did all blocks all at once really raise question as to why. arkasi liked this post
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Nov 28 2025, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(Atrocious @ Nov 28 2025, 11:19 AM) I think many of them hid in the toilet. That's where they'll be found.. Cremated... Atrocious liked this post
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Nov 28 2025, 11:52 AM
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If they follow us using steel, instead of bamboo, the fire will not start in the beginning.  yhtan liked this post
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Nov 28 2025, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 11:48 AM) The whistleblower suspect they did all at once so they can quickly complete the work and ran away overseas safely with songlap money. 日长梦多… milestone payment thing I thinkIt was said that doing few block by turn would be cheaper as they can then shift non perishable material from one block to another. So the fact that they did all blocks all at once really raise question as to why. complete scaffolding can collect one stage of payment |
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Nov 28 2025, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Nov 28 2025, 11:51 AM) Cremated... It’s practically 7 blocks of ovens, there’s no where to hide from the roasting heat even if one can avoid the smoke.Almost everything become flammable under intense heat. So many household items would had started burning, bathroom is the only place with least flammable items…but in the end victims either died due to smoke or roasted alive by the intense heat. arkasi, Phoenix_KL, and 1 other liked this post
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Nov 28 2025, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Nov 28 2025, 11:47 AM) 3mins hard to run, even from top floor running to stair case pun mau 5-10mins |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 28 2025, 11:33 AM) Very low chance it will happen here lah, we using metal/aluminium scaffolding, normally high rise building exterior maintenance involving in painting or water proofing only Agree but what is the fire is caused by gas tanks or ciggi smokes or fireworks ? Does Bomba has the facilities to douse or control fire in such highly dense and tall buildings? Just hope it will not be like the movie towering inferno… |
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 12:00 PM) It’s practically 7 blocks of ovens, there’s no where to hide from the roasting heat even if one can avoid the smoke. Towering inferno all over again!Almost everything become flammable under intense heat. So many household items would had started burning, bathroom is the only place with least flammable items…but in the end victims either died due to smoke or roasted alive by the intense heat. |
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Nov 28 2025, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 27 2025, 05:52 PM) This video interview whistleblower who earlier engaged the authority multiple times to warn of fire hazard about the apartments renovation, the authorities brushed his warning aside and claimed the project post minimal risks. Heads will roll soon… The whistleblower's explanation was very detailed. bomba, which guy, state councilor, which guy, etc.He even does a full test on the green net flammability, follow up on independent testing result,date etc. not sure his full intention behind, but sounds like he did a full length of diggings for years. gotta respect this fella.  arkasi liked this post
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Nov 28 2025, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(4102Lahces @ Nov 28 2025, 09:28 AM) Yes - but it didn’t go up overnight. It was there for a long time, same as the flammable seals on the windows etc etc. Many people saw it, were aware, what checks were made by ………… all the stakeholders who had public safety concerns? WHO failed in their responsibilities? Definitely, those 3 assholes are the scapegoats. The latest news report indirectly shows that a lot of players are complicit.It was a significant contract - @ HKD345m I think - so the investigation of the procurement process and contract agreement will be interesting, and damming. As the residents were paying for it there’s reports on their dissatisfaction with the process and, even before the fire, the outcomes. Of course everyone, including here, wants it cheaper - I know how MC procurement decisions are fought over tooth and nail, for savings; we’re all tuned now to expect more for less, so it will be good to find out what minimum standards and fire laws were breached. I’m not familiar with the governance and accountability for this type of building in HK but the list of actors involved will be large I’m sure. The company had a record of repeat offender for safety offences, 'authorities visited the site 16 times & launched 3 safety violations between July 24 & earlier this.month'. Warning was last issued on Nov 20 to step up fire prevention yet no stop work order despite multiple violations Project consultant give it the highest rating B during tender process & claimed they are clean no previous offences. If this not open complicit & bribery involved then tge earth is flat. All this are on south China morning post btw. 4102Lahces liked this post
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 28 2025, 12:03 PM) 3mins hard to run, even from top floor running to stair case pun mau 5-10mins There’s one family that ran down but had to return back to their unit because the exit already engulfed in flame. The family member subsequently unable to get in contact there after. This is very sad and ridiculous, why is there no firefighters at main exit at ground floor in this scenario. While I praise the front line firefighters for risking their life, I think the higher rank firefighters doing coordination and giving orders may not have done a solid job. fongsk liked this post
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Nov 28 2025, 12:08 PM) Agree but what is the fire is caused by gas tanks or ciggi smokes or fireworks ? Does Bomba has the facilities to douse or control fire in such highly dense and tall buildings? Just hope it will not be like the movie towering inferno… ours is almost all RC wall partition for residential buildingunlikely it can spread that fast even it is gas fire |
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Nov 28 2025, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Nov 28 2025, 12:08 PM) Agree but what is the fire is caused by gas tanks or ciggi smokes or fireworks ? Does Bomba has the facilities to douse or control fire in such highly dense and tall buildings? Just hope it will not be like the movie towering inferno… ciggy butt fire up the netting or styrofoam Malaysia high rise building hardly will spread to next door one lah, it has fireproof wall or clay brick wall which able to withstand fire for up to 2 hours |
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Nov 28 2025, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Nov 28 2025, 12:08 PM) Agree but what is the fire is caused by gas tanks or ciggi smokes or fireworks ? Does Bomba has the facilities to douse or control fire in such highly dense and tall buildings? Just hope it will not be like the movie towering inferno… Do your part by ditching gas cooking then.  I’m “gas tank” free, full induction/ceramic cooker. |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 28 2025, 12:15 PM) ciggy butt fire up the netting or styrofoam latest development even for the residential title development, the unit is fitted with smoke detector in all room and connected to control room. while the main door is fire rated for one hourMalaysia high rise building hardly will spread to next door one lah, it has fireproof wall or clay brick wall which able to withstand fire for up to 2 hours  |
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 12:14 PM) There’s one family that ran down but had to return back to their unit because the exit already engulfed in flame. The family member subsequently unable to get in contact there after. Damn that is sad, the way i see really no way to run, run to rooftop also cannot escape. This is very sad and ridiculous, why is there no firefighters at main exit at ground floor in this scenario. While I praise the front line firefighters for risking their life, I think the higher rank firefighters doing coordination and giving orders may not have done a solid job. Can't blame firefighters on this matter, they are worry fire debris dropping down and hurt them, with 3-5 mins i doubt fire fighters can reach on time. Whether they got floorplan is another story. |
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Nov 28 2025, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(arkasi @ Nov 28 2025, 12:12 PM) Definitely, those 3 assholes are the scapegoats. The latest news report indirectly shows that a lot of players are complicit. Reminds me of the Thailand building collapse recently. Some were arrested and then everything went quiet.The company had a record of repeat offender for safety offences, 'authorities visited the site 16 times & launched 3 safety violations between July 24 & earlier this.month'. Warning was last issued on Nov 20 to step up fire prevention yet no stop work order despite multiple violations Project consultant give it the highest rating B during tender process & claimed they are clean no previous offences. If this not open complicit & bribery involved then tge earth is flat. All this are on south China morning post btw. arkasi liked this post
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Nov 28 2025, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(iamSUSUman @ Nov 28 2025, 12:11 PM) The whistleblower's explanation was very detailed. bomba, which guy, state councilor, which guy, etc. From the interview, I suspect he is part of a voluntary watchdog group that go around many projects and report irregularities and offences to authorities.He even does a full test on the green net flammability, follow up on independent testing result,date etc. not sure his full intention behind, but sounds like he did a full length of diggings for years. gotta respect this fella. Hence he and his team are deemed trouble makers by the industry and also authorities who are “beneficial stakeholders” to the lucrative industry. arkasi liked this post
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Nov 28 2025, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 28 2025, 12:14 PM) ours is almost all RC wall partition for residential building I just hope you are right and no corners are cut during construction. I hate to see a recurrence of this in Malaysia and then Gov issue committee and RCI to ‘investigate’ …unlikely it can spread that fast even it is gas fire |
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Nov 28 2025, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 28 2025, 11:43 AM) that bamboo scaffolder union is very powderful in hong kong Eh, not surprised got link to underworld. Even the labour unions from day 1 in us also involved. Read the novelisation 'fist' starring Sylvester Stallone. It's a very good novel loosely based/inspired on Jimmy Hoffa & shows how the mob gets involved.some say got link to underworld Personally, it's a moot point whether the authorities total or partial.ban on bamboo as it's a dying industry. I read 2 conflicting reports say only got about 4k workers who can set up the bamboo scaffolding. Other one says 2500 sifus are officially registered so I assumed the remainder 1500 are apprentices. Even if authorities determine bamboo isn't the cause. The industry will slowly die a.natural death. |
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Nov 28 2025, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Nov 28 2025, 12:24 PM) I just hope you are right and no corners are cut during construction. I hate to see a recurrence of this in Malaysia and then Gov issue committee and RCI to ‘investigate’ … I think HK will be record holder for many decades to come with this “7 towers ablaze” tragedy. Hopefully no other countries would ever come close to such record.Hope the Hongkies ditch their proud bamboos heritage and move on with metal scaffolding like the rest of the world. |
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Nov 28 2025, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 12:30 PM) I think HK will be record holder for many decades to come with this “7 towers ablaze” tragedy. Hopefully no other countries would ever come close to such record. How many towers does mini HK has a? Also there is one mini HK in Penang on way to Penang airport. Scary!Hope the Hongkies ditch their proud bamboos heritage and move on with metal scaffolding like the rest of the world. |
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Nov 28 2025, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 28 2025, 08:52 AM) the got fire alarm and protection system lah this apartment block is old (1983) , no fire sprinkler system, and is low cost public housing like PPR. even UK also did not have mandatory fire sprinkler law for their council flats until recently.just contractor disable it QUOTE(bill11 @ Nov 28 2025, 11:23 AM) based on the rescue by their fire fighter ar, can see they have long ass ladder that can go up to 100meter (tbc) or 30 stories and it cost up to RM1 million for that. where got 100m? none of the fire ladders reach the top also...Malaysia got ar ? how well is ours bomba preparation for emergency sitaution like this ? nvm jakim more funding first.  This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Nov 28 2025, 12:43 PM |
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I saw those video their love one video call them, damn sad. Like those black smoke slowly engulfing the whole unit.
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Nov 28 2025, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Nov 28 2025, 12:34 PM) How many towers does mini HK has a? Also there is one mini HK in Penang on way to Penang airport. Scary! I think high density and crowded blocks next to each other also may not resulted in similar tragedy. This historical HK tragedy was due to all 8 blocks of apartments fully wrapped in flammable materials.In normal apartment fire, it is abnormal to burn down whole block, even less likely to spread to other blocks. The UK apartment burnt down because they use flammable heat proofing material on the external wall due to their seasonal climate. Our apartment wall here is merely concrete. |
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Nov 28 2025, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 12:46 PM) I think high density and crowded blocks next to each other also may not resulted in similar tragedy. This historical HK tragedy was due to all 8 blocks of apartments fully wrapped in flammable materials. I suppose you are right cos whatever I know or mentioned are from movies… 😂😂😂😂😂In normal apartment fire, it is abnormal to burn down whole block, even less likely to spread to other blocks. The UK apartment burnt down because they use flammable heat proofing material on the external wall due to their seasonal climate. Our apartment wall here is merely concrete. |
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Cant imagine this happen in Rumah Wip... HK 8 blocks apartment are just under 2k unit or 250 unit per tower... rumah wip....i think more than 4/500 unit per tower? fongsk liked this post
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Nov 28 2025, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 28 2025, 12:17 PM) latest development even for the residential title development, the unit is fitted with smoke detector in all room and connected to control room. while the main door is fire rated for one hour If follow old guideline, residential macam no need oh, only require to place fire extinguisher |
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Nov 28 2025, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Nov 28 2025, 12:56 PM) I suppose you are right cos whatever I know or mentioned are from movies… 😂😂😂😂😂 We are all just kopitiam blow water expert only fongsk liked this post
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Nov 28 2025, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(bill11 @ Nov 28 2025, 11:23 AM) based on the rescue by their fire fighter ar, can see they have long ass ladder that can go up to 100meter (tbc) or 30 stories and it cost up to RM1 million for that. 🤔Malaysia got ar ? how well is ours bomba preparation for emergency sitaution like this ? nvm jakim more funding first. This post has been edited by jojolicia: Nov 28 2025, 01:06 PM |
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Nov 28 2025, 01:12 PM
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Now many HKger said blaming on bamboo scaffolding is a conspiracy from China to replace it with metal, they want to preserve it.
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Nov 28 2025, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Nov 28 2025, 12:37 PM) this apartment block is old (1983) , no fire sprinkler system, and is low cost public housing like PPR. even UK also did not have mandatory fire sprinkler law for their council flats until recently. I think the fire ladders they got are only up to 60m highwhere got 100m? none of the fire ladders reach the top also... |
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Nov 28 2025, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(ekoh @ Nov 28 2025, 01:12 PM) Now many HKger said blaming on bamboo scaffolding is a conspiracy from China to replace it with metal, they want to preserve it. idk manthose like kena racun bunga cibai, damn retard, even say bamboo is not combustible |
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QUOTE(ekoh @ Nov 28 2025, 01:12 PM) Now many HKger said blaming on bamboo scaffolding is a conspiracy from China to replace it with metal, they want to preserve it. just preserve it only la.. the heritage is more important than their live. just note down who are they, have some bamboo structure set up at thier housing area so that they walk what they talk. |
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Nov 28 2025, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Nov 28 2025, 12:57 PM) Cant imagine this happen in Rumah Wip... HK 8 blocks apartment are just under 2k unit or 250 unit per tower... rumah wip....i think more than 4/500 unit per tower? Now we see Bandar madani how many storeys per block pula…. 😎 |
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Nov 28 2025, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 11:43 AM) Ladder how tall also useless when the prop layout didn’t designed to give fire truck access into the compound. In this HK fire, the fire trucks also didn’t manage to get close to the apartments. True might not be useful for this use case, but it can be for other rescue environments, dont later when need to save tak ada tools to use just because we are not prepared for it. |
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Nov 28 2025, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Nov 28 2025, 12:37 PM) this apartment block is old (1983) , no fire sprinkler system, and is low cost public housing like PPR. even UK also did not have mandatory fire sprinkler law for their council flats until recently. maybe not in hk then, where got 100m? none of the fire ladders reach the top also... The Longest Fire Truck Ladders in Use If you’re wondering about the absolute longest ladders available, some specialized aerial apparatus can stretch impressively far: Bronto Skylift F-Series: These aerial platforms can reach up to 295 feet (90 meters), but these are extremely specialized vehicles and are not common in every fire department. Magirus M68L: Aerial ladder from Magirus can reach 223 feet (68 meters), making it one of the tallest true ladders in the world. However, for typical urban or suburban fire departments, ladders of 100 feet are standard and sufficient for reaching 7–8 story buildings. |
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Nov 28 2025, 01:37 PM
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They been using bamboo for a very long time.
Surely, there must be other factors that had to align for such a large scale tragedy involving so many lives and property damage... |
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Nov 28 2025, 01:46 PM
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heard that only 1 or 2 fire hydrant in the whole compound
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Nov 28 2025, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 10:21 AM) I just recalled PRC got drones designed to be used for fire fighting. Just realised these drones were no where to be seen in this historical HK tragedy. Either those drones were never adopted by HK firefighters or those drones never made it into practical field usage? For parade use only. |
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QUOTE(ekoh @ Nov 28 2025, 01:12 PM) Now many HKger said blaming on bamboo scaffolding is a conspiracy from China to replace it with metal, they want to preserve it. QUOTE(brkli @ Nov 28 2025, 01:24 PM) just preserve it only la.. the heritage is more important than their live. just note down who are they, have some bamboo structure set up at thier housing area so that they walk what they talk. QUOTE(countingcrows @ Nov 28 2025, 01:37 PM) They been using bamboo for a very long time. How about bamboo make of metal material? Surely, there must be other factors that had to align for such a large scale tragedy involving so many lives and property damage... Preserve the heritage of the bamboo (got the outlook) and at the same time be safer. Genius right?  |
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Nov 28 2025, 01:37 PM) They been using bamboo for a very long time. Bamboo is not very flammable otherwise we will not be able to make lemang . I think the culprit is the green netting.Surely, there must be other factors that had to align for such a large scale tragedy involving so many lives and property damage... This post has been edited by enviro: Nov 28 2025, 02:09 PM loserguy liked this post
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Nov 28 2025, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(enviro @ Nov 28 2025, 02:08 PM) Bamboo is not very flammable otherwise we will not be able to make lemang . You use dried bamboo to make lemang? |
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Nov 28 2025, 08:13 AM) Where do you think this type of practice started from? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera....-hong-kong-fire QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 28 2025, 08:19 AM) so you are saying india is more advanced than china? No wonder historically, Chinese mati katak in the millions. Never change hor? Here so many died, and still got many wumaos who must protek. Not their family member who died mah....Priorities ke laut. This post has been edited by Hobbez: Nov 28 2025, 02:18 PM |
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QUOTE(ekoh @ Nov 28 2025, 01:12 PM) Now many HKger said blaming on bamboo scaffolding is a conspiracy from China to replace it with metal, they want to preserve it. at this moment still mau blame China pulak, otak really masuk air |
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 28 2025, 01:23 PM) idk man Sohai Winnie kok rider.those like kena racun bunga cibai, damn retard, even say bamboo is not combustible Bamboo where got burn sohai  |
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Nov 28 2025, 02:32 PM) Sohai Winnie kok rider. yalah tu, of course not burn, india still use bamboo scaffolding mahBamboo where got burn sohai india use one, sure safe one |
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QUOTE(bill11 @ Nov 28 2025, 12:36 PM) maybe not in hk then, Hk don't have. That why Shenzhen is willing to help but HK govt didnt give them green light. China got those super ladder fire truck + drone.The Longest Fire Truck Ladders in Use If you’re wondering about the absolute longest ladders available, some specialized aerial apparatus can stretch impressively far: Bronto Skylift F-Series: These aerial platforms can reach up to 295 feet (90 meters), but these are extremely specialized vehicles and are not common in every fire department. Magirus M68L: Aerial ladder from Magirus can reach 223 feet (68 meters), making it one of the tallest true ladders in the world. However, for typical urban or suburban fire departments, ladders of 100 feet are standard and sufficient for reaching 7–8 story buildings. |
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Nov 28 2025, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(enviro @ Nov 28 2025, 02:08 PM) Bamboo is not very flammable otherwise we will not be able to make lemang . I think the culprit is the green netting. The bamboos for scaffolding is not fresh bamboos, they are dried and probably already reused multiple times.Also, we shouldn’t equate fire outbreak with normal day cooking/bbq, almost everything is flammable under intense heat in during fire outbreak. Even fire door that is designed to be fire proof will eventually caught fire after prolong fire exposure. The none fire retardant green netting when burnt allegedly will melt and drip down, the dripping will continue to burn for a while. So the dripping fire may eventually cause the bamboos to caught fire also. One victim witness claimed that the bamboos were blasting like rockets, causing many fire debris to fly everywhere. arkasi liked this post
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Nov 28 2025, 01:37 PM) They been using bamboo for a very long time. there are many issue in this fire. first we look at the material issue first. Surely, there must be other factors that had to align for such a large scale tragedy involving so many lives and property damage... to me the no1 culprit is 1) the styrofoam board was used to to cover all the window to protect the window during renovation. easy to light up under fire. not fire retard. This is the most dangerous as it is directly connecting to the building. there are 2 issues here. one being it is not fire retard and easily inflammable. with the board on the window, the people staying inside doesnt know what is happening outside , and causes people to react too late to save themselves. 2) bamboo scaffolding. There is a reason why the whole world move into steel scaffolding. steel scaffolding are much more consistent and stable. According to fire safety expert Goertz, bamboo has an "outer coating" that "actually has quite good fire properties". "It doesn't catch fire very easily. But once it does catch fire, the entire structure burns and the fire spreads upwards." Another special feature of bamboo is that the individual parts "practically disintegrate explosively". 3) the safety netting was not fire retard. this is also an issue, but people tend to use the cheaper option. fire retard safety netting is much much more expensive than the normal type of safety netting. We also have this issue here. almost all our construction in malaysia are using non fire retard safety netting. on construction method side. the worst culprit 1) fire alarm was turn off. during the renovation, all fire alarm was turn off, which causes many not aware of the fire breakout. This is actually outrageous. 2) 8 blocks renovate at the same time. the reason why all 8 block are under renovation at the same time is really weird. Usually to cut cost, most contractor would do 1 block at a time, to save cost and easier to control labor. doing 1 block at a time, would also shorten and limit effecting the people staying there. 3) no bomba lift. there was no bomba lift at the building which is weird, as the building was built in 1986. around that time, most of the world already making it into a law that requires bomba lift at every high rise building. Malaysia also make it into a law in 1984. 4) fire escape staircase or the lack of well, there is a fire escape staircase at the building, but it is not considered a fire escape staircase at all, as it is fully open. As a fire escape staircase, you need to be fully blocked off from outside and all exit door need to be fire rated door. so as the fire break out, the fire can block the fire escape passage and people could not escape On government side. 1) Lack off checking from authority. how the renovation work of such huge scale lack of checking from authority. but this issue is also similar to malaysia, as most of our construction site, doesnt really follow all requirement, but still allow to carry out. |
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QUOTE 我好想好想可以再拖住你隻手… T_T rip, hero |
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Nov 28 2025, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(bill11 @ Nov 28 2025, 01:36 PM) maybe not in hk then, Latest footage shown the HK fire fighter only spraying water to mid floor even though there are clearly higher floor units still burning.The Longest Fire Truck Ladders in Use If you’re wondering about the absolute longest ladders available, some specialized aerial apparatus can stretch impressively far: Bronto Skylift F-Series: These aerial platforms can reach up to 295 feet (90 meters), but these are extremely specialized vehicles and are not common in every fire department. Magirus M68L: Aerial ladder from Magirus can reach 223 feet (68 meters), making it one of the tallest true ladders in the world. However, for typical urban or suburban fire departments, ladders of 100 feet are standard and sufficient for reaching 7–8 story buildings. It’s clear that they were unable to spray water any higher. So they just keep spraying water to cool down lower floors from having fire reignite. Lesson here is avoid buying unit that is way too high |
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 28 2025, 02:33 PM) yalah tu, of course not burn, india still use bamboo scaffolding mah Sorry ahh. Didn't realize I was talking with kanak kanak istimewa. india use one, sure safe one Niama I show you picture of the bamboo scaffolding still standing after the building fire you go and show random video. Talk with you more also scared my IQ drop like your level. Must rmb to be guai and study hard hard, ok? |
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Nov 28 2025, 03:38 PM) Sorry ahh. Didn't realize I was talking with kanak kanak istimewa. adui,Niama I show you picture of the bamboo scaffolding still standing after the building fire you go and show random video. Talk with you more also scared my IQ drop like your level. Must rmb to be guai and study hard hard, ok? you exact word below wanna deny? 'Sohai Winnie kok rider. Bamboo where got burn sohai' see who is sohai now Viper236 liked this post
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this kind of residential building is becoming a norm in Klang Valley too....really tin sardin condo...if anything happen, sure easily spread
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 03:29 PM) Latest footage shown the HK fire fighter only spraying water to mid floor even though there are clearly higher floor units still burning. Maybe it can be multipurpose, spraying or saving. It’s clear that they were unable to spray water any higher. So they just keep spraying water to cool down lower floors from having fire reignite. Lesson here is avoid buying unit that is way too high |
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But now Hongkonger put their pride on the bamboo scaffolding.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 03:29 PM) Latest footage shown the HK fire fighter only spraying water to mid floor even though there are clearly higher floor units still burning. or Follow us, all commercial lot needs to install water sprinkler in every apartment unit.It’s clear that they were unable to spray water any higher. So they just keep spraying water to cool down lower floors from having fire reignite. Lesson here is avoid buying unit that is way too high QUOTE In Malaysia, the requirement for water sprinkler systems in buildings classified as commercial units, including those titled as serviced apartments, is mandatory and governed by the Uniform Building By-Laws (UBBL) and the Fire and Rescue Department (Bomba) regulations. |
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 28 2025, 03:39 PM) adui, He org tua istimewa with Alzheimer forgot what he said hahayou exact word below wanna deny? 'Sohai Winnie kok rider. Bamboo where got burn sohai' see who is sohai now This post has been edited by Viper236: Nov 28 2025, 04:51 PM |
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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Nov 28 2025, 04:46 PM) or Follow us, all commercial lot needs to install water sprinkler in every apartment unit. they also have that law la. the problem is this building is old and before such laws. our old buildings, many also dont have sprinkler. and some countries have laws saying must retrofit sprinkler system on old building, but its very very expensive and thats why such laws very hard to pass or implement.even today, I wonder whether our rumahWIP have mandatory sprinkler system? This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Nov 28 2025, 05:17 PM |
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QUOTE(elm0001 @ Nov 28 2025, 03:17 PM) at least 128 gone… poor poor people gonng yan sei kan ahhhh(poor people certain to drop dead like flies ahhh) Something is wrong? No. Everything is wrong! |
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Sprinkler we also have but need to unzip only then can reveal the highly sophisticated system..
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QUOTE(ahchat @ Nov 28 2025, 03:46 PM) this kind of residential building is becoming a norm in Klang Valley too....really tin sardin condo...if anything happen, sure easily spread https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City Imagine if there was a fire here. |
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Nov 28 2025, 06:33 PM
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Nov 28 2025, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Nov 28 2025, 11:47 AM) Wow can clearly see the bamboo burning, yet the hongkies in youtube comments still defending their bamboos, topkek |
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Nov 28 2025, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(brian81st @ Nov 28 2025, 03:02 PM) there are many issue in this fire. first we look at the material issue first. no sprinkle system then I can still understand. 30sty building no wet risers and fire hose reel system? Facade on fire, those trapped inside can save themselves within the building.to me the no1 culprit is 1) the styrofoam board was used to to cover all the window to protect the window during renovation. easy to light up under fire. not fire retard. This is the most dangerous as it is directly connecting to the building. there are 2 issues here. one being it is not fire retard and easily inflammable. with the board on the window, the people staying inside doesnt know what is happening outside , and causes people to react too late to save themselves. 2) bamboo scaffolding. There is a reason why the whole world move into steel scaffolding. steel scaffolding are much more consistent and stable. According to fire safety expert Goertz, bamboo has an "outer coating" that "actually has quite good fire properties". "It doesn't catch fire very easily. But once it does catch fire, the entire structure burns and the fire spreads upwards." Another special feature of bamboo is that the individual parts "practically disintegrate explosively". 3) the safety netting was not fire retard. this is also an issue, but people tend to use the cheaper option. fire retard safety netting is much much more expensive than the normal type of safety netting. We also have this issue here. almost all our construction in malaysia are using non fire retard safety netting. on construction method side. the worst culprit 1) fire alarm was turn off. during the renovation, all fire alarm was turn off, which causes many not aware of the fire breakout. This is actually outrageous. 2) 8 blocks renovate at the same time. the reason why all 8 block are under renovation at the same time is really weird. Usually to cut cost, most contractor would do 1 block at a time, to save cost and easier to control labor. doing 1 block at a time, would also shorten and limit effecting the people staying there. 3) no bomba lift. there was no bomba lift at the building which is weird, as the building was built in 1986. around that time, most of the world already making it into a law that requires bomba lift at every high rise building. Malaysia also make it into a law in 1984. 4) fire escape staircase or the lack of well, there is a fire escape staircase at the building, but it is not considered a fire escape staircase at all, as it is fully open. As a fire escape staircase, you need to be fully blocked off from outside and all exit door need to be fire rated door. so as the fire break out, the fire can block the fire escape passage and people could not escape On government side. 1) Lack off checking from authority. how the renovation work of such huge scale lack of checking from authority. but this issue is also similar to malaysia, as most of our construction site, doesnt really follow all requirement, but still allow to carry out. I read many who managed to get down were unable to exit the building as the entrance was rage 🔥 burning. As you said, design and this major refurbishment construction also screwed up, no clear FEA to each building. This post has been edited by jojolicia: Nov 28 2025, 07:17 PM |
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Nov 28 2025, 07:09 PM
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According to news Windows were covered by styrofoam is one of the cause fire spreading into the interior jojolicia liked this post
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Nov 28 2025, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(katijar @ Nov 28 2025, 07:09 PM) According to news yes, that is the main culprit. there were also plastic sheet covering the building which is also a problemWindows were covered by styrofoam is one of the cause fire spreading into the interior jojolicia liked this post
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Nov 28 2025, 07:38 PM
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Live:
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Nov 28 2025, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Nov 28 2025, 04:42 PM) But now Hongkonger put their pride on the bamboo scaffolding. HK has already made it a law scaffolding must be 50% made of metal.It is hard to pursue them now. After the fire, they probably want to ban bamboo altogether. |
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Nov 28 2025, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Nov 28 2025, 07:45 PM) HK has already made it a law scaffolding must be 50% made of metal. Metal = high rise = thunder = strike = zeus = shock = grounding/earthingAfter the fire, they probably want to ban bamboo altogether. |
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Nov 28 2025, 07:54 PM
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Nov 28 2025, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(Supreme1394 @ Nov 28 2025, 06:57 PM) Wow can clearly see the bamboo burning, yet the hongkies in youtube comments still defending their bamboos, topkek Can also clearly heard the sound of Firecracker.The individual hollow sections of the bamboo would explode, producing a sound like a firecracker.. But some retarded people who worship bamboo would still be in-denial. |
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Nov 28 2025, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(MotorboatMyGoat @ Nov 28 2025, 07:54 PM) DLLM really got their brain wired different way Rusty Nail liked this post
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Nov 28 2025, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 28 2025, 08:33 PM) Can also clearly heard the sound of Firecracker. when bamboo explode, it break into multiple fiery fragmentsThe individual hollow sections of the bamboo would explode, producing a sound like a firecracker.. But some retarded people who worship bamboo would still be in-denial. that is probably how fire jump from one block to another but hongkies really special, they sayang their bamboo scaffolding more than human life |
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Nov 28 2025, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Nov 28 2025, 07:45 PM) HK has already made it a law scaffolding must be 50% made of metal. that 50% is only for government projectAfter the fire, they probably want to ban bamboo altogether. |
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Nov 28 2025, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Nov 28 2025, 06:32 PM) it remind me that there r place in our country r Kowloon Walled City alike. scare-scare...  |
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Nov 28 2025, 09:28 PM
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Update 128 death, 79 injuries
Preliminary test indicate green netting has fire retardant quality…. |
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Nov 28 2025, 10:01 PM
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RIP, the HK government must come clean and stern on the defaulters plus make necessary amendment for future construction / renovation works
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Nov 28 2025, 10:36 PM
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Seriously many gvt,housing, safety minister need to be charged also, those apartments have no sprinklers n alarm not functiones
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Nov 28 2025, 11:06 PM
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2 indonesian helper/maid confirmed deceased.. with 32 more indonesian and pinoy still missing/unaccounted
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Nov 29 2025, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Nov 28 2025, 11:06 PM) 2 indonesian helper/maid confirmed deceased.. with 32 more indonesian and pinoy still missing/unaccounted The final death toll could potentially breach 300 given the missing number. Heads will roll for the failed govt departments. |
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Nov 29 2025, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 28 2025, 08:33 PM) Can also clearly heard the sound of Firecracker. 4000 people depend on it for a living can make a lot of noise.The individual hollow sections of the bamboo would explode, producing a sound like a firecracker.. But some retarded people who worship bamboo would still be in-denial. |
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Nov 29 2025, 09:56 AM
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It looks like Bamboo has practically become a religion in Hong Kong. HK people are spreading misinformation, denying obvious facts, and clinging to blatant bias.
1. Video clearly shown bamboo burnt into ashes & fallen = HK people suddenly become blind 2. Video audio clearly gave the cracking sound of bamboo exploding = HK people suddenly become deaf 3. Aftermath Video clearly shown bamboo was destroyed by fire in the black colored side (due to burnt) of the building with gap of space showing the bamboo no longer exist due to it being destroyed, but they choose the least affected area (bright color side) as proof that bamboo was not destroyed = HK people become retarded bias This post has been edited by ApocalypseSoon: Nov 29 2025, 10:00 AM |
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there are serious management issues on the Hong Kong Fire Services Department . why didn't ask Shenzhen Fire Services Department for help if it does not have high tech Firefighting Drones ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11enxgxsanU the top management of Hong Kong Fire Services Department will be seriously dealt with This post has been edited by issac99289928: Nov 29 2025, 10:17 AM |
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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ Nov 29 2025, 11:05 AM) there are serious management issues on the Hong Kong Fire Services Department . why didn't ask Shenzhen Fire Services Department for help if it does not have high tech Firefighting Drones ? Hongkongers don't trust anything from China even if China offered help. The HK government will look even more useless if they ask Shenzhen's help. Even with Shenzhen's help and using drones, the fire might not even be contained. A lot of Hongkongers are like AMDKs in k. If with Shenzhen's help and drones, so many people still die, what do you think all those keyboard warriors will say? Even now with no China involvement at all, there are people blaming China.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11enxgxsanU the top management of Hong Kong Fire Services Department will be seriously dealt with This post has been edited by 30624770: Nov 29 2025, 10:50 AM |
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Nov 29 2025, 10:41 AM
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Nov 29 2025, 11:02 AM
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They found him in the toilet, covered in 2 wet blankets and still holding his IC. RIP..
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Nov 29 2025, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Nov 29 2025, 10:36 AM) Hongkongers don't trust anything from China even if China offered help. The HK government will look even more useless if they ask Shenzhen's help. Even with Shenzhen's help and using drones, the fire might not even be contained. A lot of Hongkongers are like AMDKs in k. If with Shenzhen's help and drones, so many people still die, what do you think all those keyboard warriors will say? Even now with no China involvement at all, there are people blaming China. firefighting drones can fly at a height of 200 m = 60 stories or more . can surely help . This post has been edited by issac99289928: Nov 29 2025, 11:42 AM |
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Nov 29 2025, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Nov 28 2025, 11:06 PM) 2 indonesian helper/maid confirmed deceased.. with 32 more indonesian and pinoy still missing/unaccounted Gosh the count at 128 from this vid😔 sad This post has been edited by jojolicia: Nov 29 2025, 12:13 PM ericcheng2021 liked this post
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great tragedy as number of dead and missing already pass 300+..
thats not even accounting for elderly that lives alone with no relatives, nobody can confirm or know if they're even there |
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Nov 29 2025, 12:45 PM
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https://youtu.be/c6JrPvo-MlU?si=3jKQtUUI-8Tr7tCg
This video from 2 years ago show the place to be quite nice even though its subsidised housing. Notice the whole exterior walls are covered in small brown tiles like mosaic. Probably renovation is to replace these tiles. This post has been edited by enviro: Nov 29 2025, 12:47 PM |
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Nov 29 2025, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(enviro @ Nov 29 2025, 12:45 PM) https://youtu.be/c6JrPvo-MlU?si=3jKQtUUI-8Tr7tCg Very tidy and neat for a 20+ year old public housing living environmentalThis video from 2 years ago show the place to be quite nice even though its subsidised housing. Notice the whole exterior walls are covered in small brown tiles like mosaic. Probably renovation is to replace these tiles. Correction, 40+ year old This post has been edited by jojolicia: Nov 29 2025, 02:43 PM Atrocious liked this post
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Nov 29 2025, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ Nov 29 2025, 12:50 PM) Probably fake because no recoil at all |
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Nov 29 2025, 12:57 PM) Very tidy and neat for a 20+ year old public housing living environmental QUOTE 2009 Wang Fuk Court is a subsidised government Home Ownership Scheme housing complex located in Tai Po, built in 1983. 40+ years |
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Nov 29 2025, 01:49 PM
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Out of the 128, >80+ totally unrecognizable..
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QUOTE(Atrocious @ Nov 29 2025, 01:49 PM) Out of the 128, >80+ totally unrecognizable.. 128 was official figures released yesterday, seems like they refrain from releasing new number today. The final death toll could be disastrous, the authorities probably figuring best way to avoid massive backlash. Atrocious liked this post
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Nov 29 2025, 04:13 PM
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CharGPT:
In HK, does the bamboo used in scaffolding flammable? Short answer: Yes. The bamboo used in scaffolding in Hong Kong is combustible, because bamboo is a natural material containing cellulose. It can burn if exposed to sufficient heat or open flame. However: Why it’s still widely used in Hong Kong Highly treated: Bamboo used for scaffolding is typically well-cured and kept dry, which reduces—but does not remove—flammability. Regulated safety practices: Hong Kong’s Labour Department and Buildings Department require fire-safety precautions on construction sites (e.g., no hot works near bamboo scaffold unless special measures are taken). Fire risk is managed: Workers are trained, and fire-prevention measures are mandatory. Bottom line Bamboo scaffolding is not fire-resistant, but with proper management it is considered safe for use. If “hot works” (welding, cutting, etc.) are performed, additional protection or alternative scaffolding (e.g., metal) is required. If you want, I can summarise Hong Kong’s specific safety regulations on scaffolding and fire prevention. |
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 29 2025, 03:50 PM) 128 was official figures released yesterday, seems like they refrain from releasing new number today. The final death toll could be disastrous, the authorities probably figuring best way to avoid massive backlash. Only 275 units/households reported safe..https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/..._resident_safe/ |
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If this was a TV drama, then it will say it was some bigshot developer wanting to reclaim the land for development purpose so he plotted to burn down the towers so that he could reclaim the land for own use by working with gangsters and a few corrupted government officials.
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Nov 29 2025, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 29 2025, 09:56 AM) It looks like Bamboo has practically become a religion in Hong Kong. HK people are spreading misinformation, denying obvious facts, and clinging to blatant bias. I use to cut bamboo for campfire. Confirm it can burn. 1. Video clearly shown bamboo burnt into ashes & fallen = HK people suddenly become blind 2. Video audio clearly gave the cracking sound of bamboo exploding = HK people suddenly become deaf 3. Aftermath Video clearly shown bamboo was destroyed by fire in the black colored side (due to burnt) of the building with gap of space showing the bamboo no longer exist due to it being destroyed, but they choose the least affected area (bright color side) as proof that bamboo was not destroyed = HK people become retarded bias If the green wan, take a bit time. As the fiber contain water. While the yellow dead bamboo is easy to burn. Sometime it explode as the pressure built up inside. Chop it half will be safer. That’s my real experience. Not ChatGPT. homemark and countingcrows liked this post
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It's not because of the bamboo, it's because of the green mesh. Someone somewhere skimped out on the fire-resistant version and instead used something that looked the same but extremely flammable, that was how the fire spread upwards so quickly. There are videos demonstrating the difference in the green mesh types.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 29 2025, 03:50 PM) 128 was official figures released yesterday, seems like they refrain from releasing new number today. The final death toll could be disastrous, the authorities probably figuring best way to avoid massive backlash. Bolded, I refrain myself to believe that is the case but as authority moves into the buildings, sweeping door to door, I got a feeling the discovery is too traumatising and no way anyone can hide the fact.Added. I saw a vid, many (relatives) waiting at ground zero saying unaccounted, missing ‘mati pon mau nampak mayat lo’ This post has been edited by jojolicia: Yesterday, 12:44 AM |
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Nov 30 2025, 12:18 AM) It's not because of the bamboo, it's because of the green mesh. Someone somewhere skimped out on the fire-resistant version and instead used something that looked the same but extremely flammable, that was how the fire spread upwards so quickly. There are videos demonstrating the difference in the green mesh types. The green netting is the reason why the fire spread so fast but if it's metal and not bamboo, the fire would have finished faster. To say bamboo has no role in the fire is not rightThis post has been edited by 30624770: Nov 29 2025, 11:44 PM Supreme1394 and jojolicia liked this post
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Some still need to continue pay their house loan..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgmODM2WxbQ *Street walk uploaded few hours back. This post has been edited by Atrocious: Yesterday, 05:28 AM |
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Nov 29 2025, 11:18 PM) It's not because of the bamboo, it's because of the green mesh. Someone somewhere skimped out on the fire-resistant version and instead used something that looked the same but extremely flammable, that was how the fire spread upwards so quickly. There are videos demonstrating the difference in the green mesh types. is due to both.green mesh and styrofoam = easily combust, but will only last for a very short time. bamboo, hard to combust or catch fire, but once it burn, it will burn for a very long time. when you combine both. u got things that easily combust feeding to material that stay burning for a long time. Supreme1394, jojolicia, and 1 other liked this post
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QUOTE(brkli @ Nov 30 2025, 02:20 AM) is due to both. 1) Main fire trigger: styrofoam seals on the windows, green netting still in question as preliminary test allegedly meet fire retardant requirement.green mesh and styrofoam = easily combust, but will only last for a very short time. bamboo, hard to combust or catch fire, but once it burn, it will burn for a very long time. when you combine both. u got things that easily combust feeding to material that stay burning for a long time. 2) Material that sustain and spread fire: bamboos scaffolding 3) Reason for fire to engulf 7 towers: all towers wrapped in flammable materials all at once. This historical tragedy would be less severe if works were done tower by tower. The last point is actually the main catastrophe that spread to 7 towers, point one should only engulf one tower without point 3. |
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This garden engulfed in fire is not the only the only residential gardens undergoing similar major repair. There are many other same repair going on other similarly old apartments due to govt mandatory inspection and repair legislation. Many other apartments have been wrapped in such death traps for more than 1 or 2 years or even longer.
I suspect wrapping all towers at once is a strategy by the contractor mafia to force residents to quickly clear all outstanding fees for the major repair. It foster peer pressure on unit holders that has yet to pay all their dues. |
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Nov 29 2025, 12:12 PM) Gosh the count at 128 from this vid How can hundreds of people went missing like that😔 sad And body counts does not tally |
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Chief Executive John lee: Thank you Emperor Xi! X4 Reporter: How didn't you thank the firefighters? *Walk back and return to thank the firefighters. |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 28 2025, 12:03 PM) 3mins hard to run, even from top floor running to stair case pun mau 5-10mins probably dont even have the 3mins at all... they have no fire alarm, you see in video the guy shouting there, those people stay on higher floor wont notice there's fire |
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HZ have 92 pages compare to here 20 pages https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/...7172069/page-92 |
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QUOTE(3damansarautama @ Nov 30 2025, 02:28 PM) HZ have 92 pages compare to here 20 pages Mmg lar, SG also same as HK, vast majority staying in highrise condo... 😁https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/...7172069/page-92 |
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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Nov 30 2025, 01:11 PM) probably dont even have the 3mins at all... they have no fire alarm, you see in video the guy shouting there, those people stay on higher floor wont notice there's fire They don't have like a "taman" whatapps group chat? |
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Guess this is where to leave a white flower for those deceased.. 💮
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Live: flower queue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ab64AgaZaw * Latest number: 146 dead. Tomorrow, same channel at 11am, live.. This post has been edited by Atrocious: Yesterday, 05:15 PM countingcrows liked this post
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China made green mesh
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 30 2025, 08:22 AM) This garden engulfed in fire is not the only the only residential gardens undergoing similar major repair. There are many other same repair going on other similarly old apartments due to govt mandatory inspection and repair legislation. Many other apartments have been wrapped in such death traps for more than 1 or 2 years or even longer. 160,000 HKD per unit oI suspect wrapping all towers at once is a strategy by the contractor mafia to force residents to quickly clear all outstanding fees for the major repair. It foster peer pressure on unit holders that has yet to pay all their dues. that is some bullshit amount |
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Today, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(Augusta @ Nov 30 2025, 04:46 PM) China made green mesh should buy made in india one, sure burn better遥遥领先 in burning speed |
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Today, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(gamehype @ Nov 30 2025, 03:42 PM) They don't have like a "taman" whatapps group chat? even have also wont check it every minutes with so many chat group nowadays, my taman group is in silent mode.. |
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Today, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Dec 1 2025, 11:33 AM) even have also wont check it every minutes with so many chat group nowadays, my taman group is in silent mode.. You just need 1 person to send message, then 1 person to read it and shout it as loud as possible. |
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Today, 01:42 PM
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Tai Po fire death toll rises to 146 as police victims identification unit continues combing ravaged estate
Authorities said they found 30 bodies while searching Wang Kin House, Wang Tai House and part of Wang Shing House in the fire-ravaged Wang Fuk Court on Sunday. https://hongkongfp.com/2025/11/30/breaking-...ibN7nKbQWeQmoZA This post has been edited by jojolicia: Today, 01:44 PM |
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Today, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Nov 30 2025, 01:11 PM) probably dont even have the 3mins at all... they have no fire alarm, you see in video the guy shouting there, those people stay on higher floor wont notice there's fire They have alarm but it was not working *allegedly turned off* |
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Today, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(Adrian909 @ Nov 30 2025, 09:12 AM) Chief Executive John lee: Thank you Emperor Xi! X4 Reporter: How didn't you thank the firefighters? *Walk back and return to thank the firefighters. |
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Today, 01:51 PM
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912 posts Joined: Mar 2011 From: Infinity & Beyond
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Nov 30 2025, 02:48 PM) Mmg lar, SG also same as HK, vast majority staying in highrise condo... 😁 meresia also have, we also can play kiasu but whether got kiasi or not is another story ayam hope our abang bomba is ready when the taik hits the kipas  countingcrows liked this post
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Today, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Dec 1 2025, 01:51 PM) meresia also have, we also can play kiasu but whether got kiasi or not is another story Hopefully, Mah Sing did everything properly... ayam hope our abang bomba is ready when the taik hits the kipas We got land, why must build liddat? Must be greed? 😁 |
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Today, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(Adrian909 @ Nov 30 2025, 09:12 AM) Chief Executive John lee: Thank you Emperor Xi! X4 Reporter: How didn't you thank the firefighters? *Walk back and return to thank the firefighters. countingcrows liked this post
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Today, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Dec 1 2025, 01:51 PM) meresia also have, we also can play kiasu but whether got kiasi or not is another story Kowloon maluri hahaha ayam hope our abang bomba is ready when the taik hits the kipas Just need one spark, kaboom kaboom but hey janji duit.masuk.pokcet developer Ada aku kesah.jpg |
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Today, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(Adrian909 @ Nov 30 2025, 09:12 AM) Chief Executive John lee: Thank you Emperor Xi! X4 Reporter: How didn't you thank the firefighters? *Walk back and return to thank the firefighters. |
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Today, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Dec 1 2025, 01:51 PM) meresia also have, we also can play kiasu but whether got kiasi or not is another story if kena fire, dunno how.. but can imagine it will be spectacular ayam hope our abang bomba is ready when the taik hits the kipas |
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Today, 03:30 PM
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Today, 03:56 PM
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1,863 posts Joined: Aug 2014 From: Soviet Sarawak - Dum Spiro Spero
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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Nov 30 2025, 01:11 PM) probably dont even have the 3mins at all... they have no fire alarm, you see in video the guy shouting there, those people stay on higher floor wont notice there's fire read that the alarm cut off and water supply for fire pipe system has been cut off.. during the renovation... not sure why cut off is required for renovation of exterior.. so if u afternoon nap/old.. u gone.. |
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Today, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Dec 1 2025, 01:51 PM) meresia also have, we also can play kiasu but whether got kiasi or not is another story awaiting main mercun api ayam hope our abang bomba is ready when the taik hits the kipas |
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