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post Nov 26 2025, 09:42 PM

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Normal fire inside out, this outside in
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post Nov 26 2025, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(kueks @ Nov 26 2025, 09:39 PM)
but the kompleks all look like under construction?
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Probably the blocks undergoing façade refurbishment works
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post Nov 26 2025, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 26 2025, 11:03 PM)
It is almost certain bamboo scaffolding will be banned in HK.
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Use bakau la
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post Nov 27 2025, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 27 2025, 01:13 PM)
Exactly how hanging curtains caught fire and 🔥 upwards upwards

One can only watch

20+yo building facade refurbishment works likely involve painting, imaging burning with drums of paint on scaffolding platform and stock at corridors

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post Nov 27 2025, 08:40 PM

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Latest update, parished body count 65
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post Nov 28 2025, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(Atrocious @ Nov 28 2025, 01:08 AM)
Gosh the count increase so fast, are they those found trapped in the building as authority starts going in now?

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post Nov 28 2025, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(thunderkingkong @ Nov 28 2025, 09:03 AM)
no fire brigade in the world can handle this type of fire, all countries should learn from this tragedy including malaysia with so many condos
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Haha start with learning to design and maintaining a viable, always passable always there FEA first

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post Nov 28 2025, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(bill11 @ Nov 28 2025, 11:23 AM)
based on the rescue by their fire fighter ar, can see they have long ass ladder that can go up to 100meter (tbc) or 30 stories and it cost up to RM1 million for that.

Malaysia got ar ? how well is ours bomba preparation for emergency sitaution like this ?

nvm jakim more funding first.
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post Nov 28 2025, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(brian81st @ Nov 28 2025, 03:02 PM)
there are many issue in this fire. first we look at the material issue first.
to me the no1 culprit is
1) the styrofoam board was used to to cover all the window to protect the window during renovation.
    easy to light up under fire. not fire retard. This is the most dangerous as it is directly connecting to the building. there are 2 issues here. one being it is not fire retard and easily inflammable.
with the board on the window, the people staying inside doesnt know what is happening outside , and causes people to react too late to save themselves.

2) bamboo scaffolding.
   There is a reason why the whole world move into steel scaffolding. steel scaffolding are much more consistent and stable. According to fire safety expert Goertz, bamboo has an "outer coating" that "actually has quite good fire properties". "It doesn't catch fire very easily. But once it does catch fire, the entire structure burns and the fire spreads upwards." Another special feature of bamboo is that the individual parts "practically disintegrate explosively".

3) the safety netting was not fire retard.
   this is also an issue, but people tend to use the cheaper option. fire retard safety netting is much much more expensive than the normal type of safety netting. We also have this issue here. almost all our construction in malaysia are using non fire retard safety netting.
on construction method side.
the worst culprit
1) fire alarm was turn off.
   during the renovation, all fire alarm was turn off, which causes many not aware of the fire breakout. This is actually outrageous.

2) 8 blocks renovate at the same time.
   the reason why all 8 block are under renovation at the same time is really weird. Usually to cut cost, most contractor would do 1 block at a time, to save cost and easier to control labor. doing 1 block at a time, would also shorten and limit effecting the people staying there.

3) no bomba lift.
    there was no bomba lift at the building which is weird, as the building was built in 1986. around that time, most of the world already making it into a law that requires bomba lift at every high rise building. Malaysia also make it into a law in 1984.

4) fire escape staircase or the lack of
    well, there is a fire escape staircase at the building, but it is not considered a fire escape staircase at all, as it is fully open. As a fire escape staircase, you need to be fully blocked off from outside and all exit door need to be fire rated door. so as the fire break out, the fire can block the fire escape passage and people could not escape

On government side.
1) Lack off checking  from authority.
   how the renovation work of such huge scale lack of checking from authority. but this issue is also similar to malaysia, as most of our construction site, doesnt really follow all requirement, but still allow to carry out.
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no sprinkle system then I can still understand. 30sty building no wet risers and fire hose reel system? Facade on fire, those trapped inside can save themselves within the building.

I read many who managed to get down were unable to exit the building as the entrance was rage 🔥 burning.

As you said, design and this major refurbishment construction also screwed up, no clear FEA to each building.

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post Nov 29 2025, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Nov 28 2025, 11:06 PM)
2 indonesian helper/maid confirmed deceased.. with 32 more indonesian and pinoy still missing/unaccounted


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Gosh the count at 128 from this vid
😔 sad

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post Nov 29 2025, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(enviro @ Nov 29 2025, 12:45 PM)
https://youtu.be/c6JrPvo-MlU?si=3jKQtUUI-8Tr7tCg

This video from 2 years ago show the place to be quite nice even though its subsidised  housing.
Notice the whole exterior walls are covered in small brown tiles like mosaic. Probably  renovation  is to replace these tiles.
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Very tidy and neat for a 20+ year old public housing living environmental

Correction, 40+ year old

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post Nov 29 2025, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 29 2025, 03:50 PM)
128 was official figures released yesterday, seems like they refrain from releasing new number today. The final death toll could be disastrous, the authorities probably figuring best way to avoid massive backlash.
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Bolded, I refrain myself to believe that is the case but as authority moves into the buildings, sweeping door to door, I got a feeling the discovery is too traumatising and no way anyone can hide the fact.

Added.
I saw a vid, many (relatives) waiting at ground zero saying unaccounted, missing ‘mati pon mau nampak mayat lo’

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post Dec 1 2025, 01:42 PM

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Tai Po fire death toll rises to 146 as police victims identification unit continues combing ravaged estate
Authorities said they found 30 bodies while searching Wang Kin House, Wang Tai House and part of Wang Shing House in the fire-ravaged Wang Fuk Court on Sunday.


https://hongkongfp.com/2025/11/30/breaking-...ibN7nKbQWeQmoZA

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