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arkasi
post Nov 27 2025, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 27 2025, 01:38 PM)
Debate & Pressure to Ban
Some experts — e.g. from the Hong Kong Institution of Engineers (HKIE) — have publicly argued for a ban, citing difficulties in uniformly assessing safety of bamboo scaffolding (variability of bamboo, weather vulnerability, higher risk over long-term use).
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Others — notably workers’ unions — oppose a ban, arguing that many accidents stem from poor workplace management rather than bamboo itself. They warn a ban could threaten thousands of jobs.

PS: They rather listen to a bunch of lowly educated contractor worker union than the highly educated & trained Institution of Engineers?
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To be fair,.both side have a point unlike.metal scaffolding which is standard bamboo isn't so there is a risk of fire.

The workers are also correct that if u don't practice proper safety standards, sure asking for trouble no matter how safe the materials are.

It's like pumping petrol, there is emergency switch to stop petrol flow yet if driver bodoh leave car engine running & smoking while filling up sure asking for trouble.
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post Nov 28 2025, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(4102Lahces @ Nov 28 2025, 09:28 AM)
Yes - but it didn’t go up overnight. It was there for a long time, same as the flammable seals on the windows etc etc. Many people saw it, were aware, what checks were made by ………… all the stakeholders who had public safety concerns? WHO failed in their responsibilities?
It was a significant contract - @ HKD345m I think - so the investigation of the procurement process and contract agreement will be interesting, and damming. As the residents were paying for it there’s reports on their dissatisfaction with the process and, even before the fire, the outcomes.
Of course everyone, including here, wants it cheaper - I know how MC procurement decisions are fought over tooth and nail, for savings; we’re all tuned now to expect more for less, so it will be good to find out what minimum standards and fire laws were breached.
I’m not familiar with the governance and accountability for this type of building in HK but the list of actors involved will be large I’m sure.
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Definitely, those 3 assholes are the scapegoats. The latest news report indirectly shows that a lot of players are complicit.

The company had a record of repeat offender for safety offences, 'authorities visited the site 16 times & launched 3 safety violations between July 24 & earlier this.month'.

Warning was last issued on Nov 20 to step up fire prevention yet no stop work order despite multiple violations

Project consultant give it the highest rating B during tender process & claimed they are clean no previous offences.

If this not open complicit & bribery involved then tge earth is flat.

All this are on south China morning post btw.
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post Nov 28 2025, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 28 2025, 11:43 AM)
that bamboo scaffolder union is very powderful in hong kong

some say got link to underworld
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Eh, not surprised got link to underworld. Even the labour unions from day 1 in us also involved. Read the novelisation 'fist' starring Sylvester Stallone. It's a very good novel loosely based/inspired on Jimmy Hoffa & shows how the mob gets involved.

Personally, it's a moot point whether the authorities total or partial.ban on bamboo as it's a dying industry. I read 2 conflicting reports say only got about 4k workers who can set up the bamboo scaffolding.

Other one says 2500 sifus are officially registered so I assumed the remainder 1500 are apprentices.

Even if authorities determine bamboo isn't the cause. The industry will slowly die a.natural death.

 

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