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steevan1000
post Oct 7 2025, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ Oct 7 2025, 10:47 AM)
2 months passage on a sailboat doesn’t leave much space for cargo after you stuff it full of provisions.
I doubt there was much relief cargo just lots of insta and tiktok accounts
And post arrest, what makes them so special that tehir release was secured so quick from a country we are proud to say we have no diplomatic ties with?
Malaysians wanting to get home from Egypt during the Egypt Arab spring also didn’t get back so quick.
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there are more humans than aid cargo in those ships. if you are honestly wanting to deliver aid, why you bring so little cargo with you?

it's a political stunt by anwar for the coming GE votes & complying with hamas narratives. it was never to deliver cargo or aid in the first place.

the purpose & goal is to create a trap for israel so that can further demonize israel more.
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most probably based on first question, the ppl who asked this question in the first place does not what is happening... they are travelling to gaza to help gaza... half way they kena capture by israel... den the israel bring them back to israel.. they do not sail out to israel... they hate israel so much, why would they go to israel in the first place?
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post Oct 7 2025, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(chinti @ Oct 7 2025, 11:01 AM)
puak pro telurlist: peace was never the option bcoz baby killer started it!
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as if hamas terrorists are bloody holy & sacred & had never killed & massacre anyone before.

proved extreme & radical religious indoctrination & religious biasedness are very dangerous & evil.
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post Oct 7 2025, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(steevan1000 @ Oct 7 2025, 03:22 PM)
we also dont see they take any actions when ukraine got invaded & attacked by russia. we dont see them shouting solidarity with ukraine or protesting against russia.

there are real genocide in some places in africa but we dont see these so called activists show any support to those being killed in africa.

for the past few decades tens of thousands of Yemen & Syria muslims murdered by islamic terrorists groups but we dont see these activists take any actions or even condemning the killing of muslims in Yemen & Syria.

so it's clear & obvious this flotilla bullshit is not really about helping gaza but to create a narrative to trap israel to further demonize israel to match the propaganda of hamas terrorists.
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I will not go into Ukraine stuff as again it is too far away from here. I pick local issues which is more relevant to me and the country.
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Oct 7 2025, 11:03 AM)
Then Both parties in the conflict deserve their fate.  Nothing to do with us, I think as they do not want peace.  Malay saying ‘ if a cow does not want to drink, no matter how u push its head to drink water, it will not budge!’ Holds true!
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palestine people never wanted peace. they elected hamas to be their government. you really think this group of people who willingly choose a terrorists group to dictate their own fate would want any true peace in that region?
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Oct 7 2025, 09:25 AM)
Dear “Sceptical Malaysian”,

You asked ten questions in the name of accountability.

Fair enough.

But fairness also means knowing the facts before you accuse.

So let’s go through them one by one.

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𝐐𝟏: 𝐃𝐢𝐝 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐤𝐧𝐨𝐰 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐌𝐚𝐥𝐚𝐲𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧 𝐩𝐚𝐬𝐬𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐬 𝐞𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐯𝐞𝐥𝐲 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐛𝐢𝐝 𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐥 𝐭𝐨 𝐈𝐬𝐫𝐚𝐞𝐥 𝐞𝐱𝐜𝐞𝐩𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐬𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐦𝐢𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧? 𝐘𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐧𝐨. 𝐍𝐨 𝐞𝐮𝐩𝐡𝐞𝐦𝐢𝐬𝐦𝐬.

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𝐐𝟐: 𝐈𝐟 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐤𝐧𝐞𝐰, 𝐝𝐢𝐝 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐜𝐡𝐨𝐨𝐬𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐛𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐤 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐥𝐚𝐰 𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐰𝐚𝐲, 𝐨𝐫 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐬𝐢𝐦𝐩𝐥𝐲 𝐜𝐚𝐫𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐥 𝐝𝐨𝐜𝐮𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐬? 𝐄𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐬𝐰𝐞𝐫 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐝𝐨, 𝐛𝐮𝐭 𝐨𝐰𝐧 𝐢𝐭.

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𝐐𝟑: 𝐖𝐡𝐨 𝐩𝐥𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐫𝐢𝐩? 𝐀 𝐖𝐡𝐚𝐭𝐬𝐀𝐩𝐩 𝐠𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐩, 𝐚𝐧 𝐍𝐆𝐎, 𝐨𝐫 𝐚 𝐩𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐥 𝐜𝐞𝐥𝐥?

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𝐐𝟒: 𝐁𝐮𝐭 𝐆𝐚𝐳𝐚 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐧𝐨 𝐮𝐬𝐚𝐛𝐥𝐞 𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭. 𝐇𝐨𝐰 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐠𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐨 𝐮𝐧𝐥𝐨𝐚𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐚𝐢𝐝?

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𝐐𝟓: 𝐖𝐡𝐨 𝐠𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐦 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐦𝐢𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐭𝐨 𝐠𝐨? 𝐃𝐢𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐛𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐞𝐬 𝐚𝐩𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐯𝐞?

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𝐐𝟔: 𝐇𝐨𝐰 𝐝𝐢𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐚𝐟𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬? 𝐂𝐫𝐨𝐰𝐝𝐟𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠? 𝐒𝐩𝐨𝐧𝐬𝐨𝐫𝐬? 𝐇𝐢𝐝𝐝𝐞𝐧 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐫𝐬??

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𝐐𝟕: 𝐃𝐢𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐧 𝐩𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐞𝐧𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡 𝐟𝐨𝐨𝐝? 𝐖𝐚𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐬𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐨𝐮𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐚 𝐬𝐭𝐮𝐧𝐭?

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𝐐𝟖: 𝐃𝐢𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐞𝐱𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐛𝐞 𝐚𝐫𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐟𝐥𝐨𝐰𝐧 𝐡𝐨𝐦𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐟𝐫𝐞𝐞 𝐩𝐮𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐜𝐢𝐭𝐲?

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𝐐𝟗: 𝐓𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐝𝐞𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐯𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐨𝐬 𝐥𝐨𝐨𝐤𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐨𝐨 𝐜𝐚𝐥𝐦. 𝐖𝐚𝐬 𝐢𝐭 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐠𝐞𝐝?

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𝐐𝟏𝟎: 𝐖𝐡𝐲 𝐝𝐢𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐬𝐚𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐚𝐦𝐞 𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬? 𝐖𝐚𝐬 𝐢𝐭 𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐩𝐭𝐞𝐝?

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To the "Sceptical Malaysian"

You are right about one thing.

Malaysians have a right to know whether this was a sincere humanitarian effort or awell-orchestrated show.

Scepticism is fair, but only if it comes with curiosity, not cynicism.

It is easy to call it naïve if you did not know what you were looking at. Because the truth is, this was never a small local mission.

It was part of a global humanitarian network that has existed for over a decade, spanning forty countries and thirty-eight flotillas.

Doctors, journalists, lawmakers, and faith leaders have sailed before and some never made it back.

So if you thought these Malaysians acted alone or stumbled into politics by accident, that misunderstanding is understandable.

We live in a time where activism is often performative, so genuine courage looks unfamiliar. But ignorance of history does not make those who act naïve(as what you have written).

There was no hidden script, no media choreography, no profit to be made.

The accounts were published, the NGOs registered, the cargo documented.
If sincerity is proven by sacrifice, then these people have already given enough.

So yes, Malaysians have a right to ask.

And they have been answered not through press conferences, but through 48 hours of captivity, through calm faces behind metal bars, through voices that refused to break even when the world doubted them.

Call it naïve if you wish, but remember this: the only reason it looks naïve is because faith in humanity has become rare enough to look unrealistic.

And let’s flip the Question

Instead of asking who paid for the boat,
ask why aid to Gaza still needs boats in 2025.

Instead of mocking those who sailed,
ask why armed soldiers board civilian vessels in open sea.

Instead of doubting their sincerity,
ask why our silence always sounds louder than their courage.

You wanted accountability. Fair.

But accountability cuts both ways, between those who act and those who scoff from safety.

Maybe the real awkward question is not for them at all.

Maybe it is for us. Yes You and Me.

When did compassion become something we had to apologise for?

Signed,
A Malaysian Who Still Believes in Humanity
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post Oct 7 2025, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(fongsk @ Oct 7 2025, 11:16 AM)
Spore DNGAF about these issues cos they don’t want to get involved.  What do they gain?  Nothing cos personally their try to distance themselves from this conflicts by showing support for any parties.  They just donate to the international aid agency and kept their mouth shut.  They believe it is best to keep mouth shut if you have nothing good to say.  This is the best policy, especially for this NEVERENDING conflict. This conflict is like the Arabian nights… 1000 years from now, they will still kill each other !
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they dont kill each other now simply because they have israel as their common enemy. if israel is totally gone one day, they will not hesitate to start war among themselves massacring their own kind day in day out.

religion of peace? bullshit
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Oct 7 2025, 11:23 AM)
Yes, they donated more than us based on latest information.  We said we donated MYR 200 millions but information provided by those who receive, only like 30 MM usd were received since 2025! Last I know, MYR 200 MM is like USD 50MM.  Wonder where the missing 20MM leaked to,  domestically or internationally!  😉
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such a great opportunity to songlap put in front of your, if you dont take you are an idiot.

of course those money gone into someone personal pocket lah
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post Oct 7 2025, 03:55 PM

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Kenapa tanya soalan susah? We just want to show the world hudi jahat.
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QUOTE(steevan1000 @ Oct 7 2025, 03:41 PM)
as if hamas terrorists are bloody holy & sacred & had never killed & massacre anyone before.

proved extreme & radical religious indoctrination & religious biasedness are very dangerous & evil.
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u jangan persoal nanti u kena label baby killer supporter
hamas paling suci ok
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post Oct 7 2025, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(hakimix @ Oct 7 2025, 03:37 PM)
lol then the effort becomes more worthless if you put it like that
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how many billions or trillions of donations across the world give to palestine/hamas since this war broke out?

how much of these donations get to the hands of the citizen who are truly in needs?

remember the photo exposed the wife of one of the hamas leader holding a Hermes handbag worth over 30k with all her big branded outfit when she was escaping in one of the underground tunnels?

most if not all of those donations will only go straight to hamas hands to either support their 7 stars lifestyle or purchase weapons from russia / china / north korea to prolong this war.

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QUOTE(fongsk @ Oct 7 2025, 03:44 PM)
I will not go into Ukraine stuff as again it is too far away from here.  I pick local issues which is more relevant to me and the country.
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it's to prove they are extremely politically & religiously biased. they will only do things which align with the narratives they want/like. fake humanitarian activists but true religious / politic biased clowns.

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QUOTE(chinti @ Oct 7 2025, 03:57 PM)
u jangan persoal nanti u kena label baby killer supporter
hamas paling suci ok
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i know how useful idiots think in their tiny brains.

merciless massacre, suicide bombing, beheading of innocents, live burning of babies.

all these evil inhuman crimes are acceptable & okay when it was hamas terrorists who did it.

but completely opposite when non muslims did the same thing.
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post Oct 7 2025, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(steevan1000 @ Oct 7 2025, 03:44 PM)
palestine people never wanted peace. they elected hamas to be their government. you really think this group of people who willingly choose a terrorists group to dictate their own fate would want any true peace in that region?
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To avoid sounding like I am taking positions, it is better for me to state that both parties refuse to give permanent peace a chance. Who and what transpired over there is relative to that person’s personal view. If you read this thread alone, u have both sides of the coins, like PAS and DAP supporters. Both cannot agree to disagree. One goes back to kingdom ago and land the other goes back to origins of man….😂😂😂😂😂😂. Which is interesting cos some quote Oct 7 as a basis, some quote after UN gave land to Israel, one quote bible, one quote Koran. lol!
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Whenever you see celebs jumping on the bandwagon for any issue and the media hyping it up and those involved are trying to show off on socmed to the max (virtue signaling), even politicians milking it to the max, then it is a circus show.

The REAL issues, nobody will care, and no politician will touch. And the media will avoid, if not censor.

Like.....Yu Menglong case.

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QUOTE(steevan1000 @ Oct 7 2025, 04:07 PM)
it's to prove they are extremely politically & religiously biased. they will only do things which align with the narratives they want/like. fake humanitarian activists but true religious / politic biased clowns.
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Hahahha… I just try not to make any comment anymore like this cos big brother is likely to be watching such threads since this forum is supposedly to be pro-Zionist. 😂😂😂😂😂😂. So to every commentators, be smart and know where to draw the line …. 🙏
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QUOTE(steevan1000 @ Oct 7 2025, 03:50 PM)
such a great opportunity to songlap put in front of your, if you dont take you are an idiot.

of course those money gone into someone personal pocket lah
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hoping mcmc and special branch open paper on some of these people.

the modus operandi are the same as zionist propaganda for past years.

Question stupid shit, when given answer argue next stupid shit and merry go round until people tired to explain anymore.

the objective is never to win the argument but to drain people out.

and the point of argument are the same across the board repeated day in and day out while ignoring all the obvious thing that u can educate urself in 5 minutes

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