Unfortunately now is meaningless match

any legal action will be taken by FAM against FIFA?

Abang Jib's house arrest, say it all.
I would be happy to use public money to put him into a cell with a sink, a toilet bowl, a table, and a bed.

This is what you get for having one party (one coalition) to rule since 1957.

Who can fix this? UMNO, PAS? Anwar (PKR), DAP?

Only reform and progressive can fix it. Move the wealth and power to the working class.

This post has been edited by Meis: Oct 9 2025, 01:05 PM

Malaysiakini comment section HM kena kritic kuat. But he has not comments how come he can issue birth cert without verification. FIFA had no trouble getting original certificate

Heritage' footballers met all requirements under my discretion - Saifuddin

actually there are a few separate issues here that many people seems to have mixed up

1) granting of citizenship to the foreign players.

the HM has the discretion to give citizenship to anyone, so long as they meet certain criteria.

for instance, if Elon Musk suddenly wants to become a Malaysian citizen and promise to invest RM5b, he will get citizenship almost immediately after the documents are submitted.

2) representing Malaysia under heritage route

now FIFA does not want players offering their services to play for countries in exchanges for citizenship and places extra criteria such as length of stay and this heritage route.

the issue is that they are questions as to whether these players actually qualify under the heritage route as fifa claims to have their grandparents birth record from foreign country but FAM claims the grandparents are born in Malaysia in order to qualify for the heritage route.

so the real issue is not whether they qualified to be Malaysia citizens but where their grandparents are actually born in right

i don't think where they were born or their grandparents were born was a consideration for citizenship

This post has been edited by cfa28: Oct 9 2025, 01:17 PM

Exactly the point. HM can issue citizenship as they see fit, in accordance to their rules and regulations.

FIFA's rules and regulations have additional criteria to be fulfilled before they would recognize the player as eligible to play for the country. So long as FIFA's requirements are not met, FAM can say all they like but they're not addressing the requirement of the regulator.

no doubt, they are already malaysians, as the necessary checks have been done, and the provisional powers under the constitution have been exercised.

the defence is whether they are legal under FIFA statutes or not.

Yes, but the current scandal is surrounding FIFA's decision, so we're mostly talking about point 2 (that ties back to 1, but focus is still 2).
Locally authorities can argue whatever power they have for point 1, if it doesn't address Fifa's ruling the scandal is still there.

yes, because granting of citizenship can always be fast tracked by any country, if a country want to offer u citizenship immediately they can do it

but FIFA know this loophole thats why they set a rule need to stay in the country at least 5 years then baru qualify as naturalized player and play for the national team (even if citizenship is awarded at the first year)

but if use heritage route then the player can play for the national team immediately without residing in the country for 5 years first, but need to make sure the player really have heritage with the country also la

so if u want a foreign player to play for the national team immediately, which route will u take?

This post has been edited by rooney723: Oct 9 2025, 02:07 PM

Without those FIFA eligibility rules
Saudi will have CR7, Mane, Kante in their line up
Kekwa

Qiu Li made his debut for the Singapore national team on 28 May 2008, in a friendly against Bahrain.
However, on 24 November 2008, FIFA banned Qiu from playing for Singapore because he did not meet the new criteria stating that a new citizen needs to reside in his new country for five years. Qiu Li had only lived in Singapore for three years. Thus he would be only eligible to represent Singapore in 2010. Singapore lost two games by forfeit (3–0) during 2010 FIFA World Cup qualifiers because Qiu was lined up in 2008 vs Saudi and Uzbek.

Gg malaysia
Kekwa

'FIFA kata ada pemalsuan dokumen, ia bukan daripada KDN' - Saifuddin 😁

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Fyi, .......

https://www.commonlii.org/my/legis/const/1957/3.html - Constitution of Malaysia
Article 19

(1) Subject to Clause (9), the Federal Government may, upon application made by any person of or over the age of twenty-one years who is not a citizen, grant a certificate of naturalization to that person if satisfied -

(a) that -

(i) he has resided in the Federation for the required periods and intends, if the certificate is granted, to do so permanently;

(ii) (Repealed).

(b) that he is of good character; and

© that he has an adequate knowledge of the Malay language. ...

(9) No certificate of naturalization shall be granted to any person until he has taken the oath (of allegiance) set out in the First Schedule.

= Does the Federal Government or Home Minister truly has the constitutional authority to grant exemption to the above constitutional requirement for residency and/or good character and/or knowledge of the Malay language under Article 19 for the granting of citizenship via naturalization.?

What about the same exemptions under Article 14-18 & 22, ie granting of citizenship via operation of Law, registration and incorporation of territory.? .......
https://joshuawu.my/citizenship-an-exclusiv...ral-government/ - Citizenship: An Exclusive Right of the Federal Government?
by Joshua Wu Kai-Ming | Oct 4, 2023
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Oct 9 2025, 02:38 PM

I don't see how FAM can get out of this sticky situation. The damage is already done and FIFA won’t just let it slide. My suggestion — forget the quick fixes and just focus on rebuilding properly for World Cup 2030 qualification.

Nowadays the politicians and those involved keep trying to twist and turn the issue to confuse the rakyat — mixing up what’s under Malaysia’s law and what’s under FIFA regulation.

The truth is simple: FAM might follow local procedures, but FIFA’s rules decide who can play internationally, not our ministers. No amount of political spin will change that.

Sanction(s) by AFC is coming. AFC got opis (HQ) at Bkt Jalil.

hahahhaa agree

I chose heritage. They're Malaysian..

Whether naturalised player play for club or not doesnt matter to me this process is shortcut to succed in modern football

Its more like youre playing video game with a "regen" player

choose heritage also have to make sure the player have heritage with our country, we used to be British colony so we have many malaysians who went to britain in the past and we have quite a few british born players in our national team before, no problem and some of them still playing for our national team today

if cannot use heritage then have to be patient and wait 5 years before fielding that player in the national team

there is no shortcuts, do it the proper way

This is a tough one to get out from, and it may turn even uglier if FAM keeps on spinning.

They should just say, sorry we made a mistake and agree to FIFA's decision and we will make policy change to better scrutinize future players...habis done deal.

They way they are spinning, gonna bring out all the blunder and hanky panky stuff behind the scene and the poor scapegoat as well!