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post Oct 10 2025, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 10 2025, 10:44 AM)
Haha so short intervals, so no need restore also.
I plan to also get it soon as price same/cheaper as getting Honda Ori oils
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Im restoring what the previous owner did. When i got the car, the oil consumption was over 1L per 5000km. Previous owner change oil every 10000km.
Now the oil consumption is 300ml-400ml per 5000km after many cycles of using bold engine oil and changing it every 5000km. And this level no more improve. So now i am trying this valvoline restore.
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post Oct 10 2025, 10:49 AM

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I use this 0W20

https://totalenergies.my/automotive-product...artz-9000-range

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post Oct 10 2025, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Oct 10 2025, 10:12 AM)
Looks very clean so far, for your driving style n changing in 10000km, this looks ok. How many km per month? City/highway ratio?

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Just wondering this part is it varnish or leftover engine oil? Based on the shape, it looks like varnish. Anyway the most severe part will be at the piston ringlands...since that is hottest.
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first 2 years, very low mileage. after that, for the past 3 years, can get almost 10k km per 6 months. I would say most of times at city drive and only about once a months for long distance drive (4-5 hours distance). At highway, will put it 140-160kmh as consistent as possible.
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post Oct 10 2025, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2025, 10:46 AM)
I did changed to Shopee Mall engine oil which they advertised with PAO + Ester. If it indeed clean agressively (due to PAO + Ester), I will repeat this.
If this bold parts are similar to Shell Helix Malaysia version where they advertised it as "Untuk Pasaran Malaysia" where most known no technical changes for the oil vs other region.

For analysis parts, hopefully there are one who done it on the Petrol version. Cz some brand advertised their Fuel are the bestest vs others, some mentioned put double additive vs recommended, while some offer the best for their 97 Ron.
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No la, the bolded part is not like for pasaran malaysia.
Their first version is restore blue. Super aggressive cleaning, can clean all in 1 cycle but than have filter clogged issue. So their change formula to this, need 4x cycle for same effect but wont clog the oil filter.
Valvoline claim for restore n protect also seems quite sceptical at first, but after using it many found it to be true.
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post Oct 10 2025, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2025, 10:50 AM)
first 2 years, very low mileage. after that, for the past 3 years, can get almost 10k km per 6 months. I would say most of times at city drive and only about once a months for long distance drive (4-5 hours distance). At highway, will put it 140-160kmh as consistent as possible.
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Wah u quite high mileage can finish 10k in 6 months. I only 5k in 6 months. Since u have super long distance once a month, i think yours no issue 10k km / 6 month cycle.

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post Oct 13 2025, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Oct 10 2025, 10:53 AM)
Wah u quite high mileage can finish 10k in 6 months. I only 5k in 6 months. Since u have super long distance once a month, i think yours no issue 10k km / 6 month cycle.
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Me also can reach near 10k km or 6mth,so every 5-6k km in 3 mths change EO,so mine engine I assume shud quite clean.
Jus receive the VRP, seems the sticker didn't mention 4x change to get it clean ya,so I asked seller,says it's new oil n this product is the only V tht offers now
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post Oct 13 2025, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 13 2025, 08:54 AM)
Me also can reach near 10k km or 6mth,so every 5-6k km in 3 mths change EO,so mine engine I assume shud quite clean.
Jus receive the VRP, seems the sticker didn't mention 4x change to get it clean ya,so I asked seller,says it's new oil n this product is the only V tht offers now
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ask chatgpt, EO with Pao + Ester also proven to clean the engine but takes time, maybe 3x change of oil only can get effect. Else if do have critical amount of deposit etc, engine flush it is
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post Oct 13 2025, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 13 2025, 09:03 AM)
ask chatgpt, EO with Pao + Ester also proven to clean the engine but takes time, maybe 3x change of oil only can get effect. Else if do have critical amount of deposit etc, engine flush it is
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Not believer of flush as heard bad incidents frm it,I jus shorten my EO intervals to up to 3x also good enuff. So far all good, my ave engine used up to 140k km for my past 4 cars
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post Oct 13 2025, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 13 2025, 09:57 AM)
Not believer of flush as heard bad incidents frm it,I jus shorten my EO intervals to up to 3x also good enuff. So far all good, my ave engine used up to 140k km for my past 4 cars
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Can give few more incidents that I have seen

Some additives that was suspected expired was used unknowingly

The said additive somehow accumulated water due to condensation etc

After flush got misfired
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post Oct 13 2025, 10:06 AM

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my car can use ah? normally use petronas syntium 3000

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post Oct 13 2025, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Oct 13 2025, 10:03 AM)
Can give few more incidents that I have seen

Some additives that was suspected expired was used unknowingly

The said additive somehow accumulated water due to condensation etc

After flush got misfired
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Yes usually chemical reactions and make it sludgy and stuck all over inside engine
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post Oct 13 2025, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Coldf3ar @ Oct 13 2025, 10:06 AM)
my car can use ah? normally use petronas syntium 3000
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Can je.
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post Oct 13 2025, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 13 2025, 12:16 PM)
Yes usually chemical reactions and make it sludgy and stuck all over inside engine
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if look at reputable brand of flush, they all suggest the 1st oil change after done the flush at 1k-2k km. I never done flush only oil change so far
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post Oct 13 2025, 02:17 PM

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Ayam use cheap cheap shell helix ultra, ok je, very smooth. Gonna try more expensive punya castrol edge next time since many of my friends say castrol edge is good
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post Oct 13 2025, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 13 2025, 09:03 AM)
ask chatgpt, EO with Pao + Ester also proven to clean the engine but takes time, maybe 3x change of oil only can get effect. Else if do have critical amount of deposit etc, engine flush it is
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But this valvoline doesnt look like PAO+Ester blend at all. From the safety data sheet composition , it looks more like ordinary group 3 base oil.
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If this is group 4 PAO base oil, then the data sheet will look more like this:
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post Oct 13 2025, 02:38 PM

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Not sure how clean TS wants his engine internals to be. For me just go the easy route, choose a good quality, genuine engine oil that I can afford to OC often and easily buy off the shelf; the shell ultra 5w-40 from teso/lotuss giant etc.

Been using it on this car till now 420k km and still no oil consumption (consumed a little before valve seals). Pic was during valve seal change at 400k km mileage. Clean enough for me.

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post Oct 13 2025, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Oct 13 2025, 02:33 PM)
But this valvoline doesnt look like PAO+Ester blend at all. From the safety data sheet composition , it looks more like ordinary group 3 base oil.
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If this is group 4 PAO base oil, then the data sheet will look more like this:
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I think its the combination of ingredients with good chemistry that makes it work so well. Many did analyse the oil using lab analysis and it looks like normal oil only.
Anyway, even premium brands with group V esters couldnt clean as well as this valvoline. In fact no brand manage to clean the piston rings. This is proven when cars with low tension piston rings use this valvoline the oil consumption and blowby drop drastically. Not to mention few people even compared cylinder compression before and after. Cars with oil consumption issue increase compression after using.
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Oct 13 2025, 02:38 PM)
Not sure how clean TS wants his engine internals to be. For me just go the easy route, choose a good quality, genuine engine oil that I can afford to OC often and easily buy off the shelf; the shell ultra 5w-40 from teso/lotuss giant etc.

Been using it on this car till now 420k km and still no oil consumption (consumed a little before valve seals). Pic was during valve seal change at 400k km mileage. Clean enough for me.

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If your oil have no oil consumption issue, then no need i think.
Mine consuming oil 1L+ every 5000km when i bought the car. They said its normal for type R engine with over 200k km mileage.
But after i change every 5000km with fs engine oil for many cycles, the oil consumption reduces to 300-400ml per 5000km.
Hence i think still can improve and try using this valvoline.
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post Oct 13 2025, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Oct 13 2025, 02:38 PM)
Not sure how clean TS wants his engine internals to be. For me just go the easy route, choose a good quality, genuine engine oil that I can afford to OC often and easily buy off the shelf; the shell ultra 5w-40 from teso/lotuss giant etc.

Been using it on this car till now 420k km and still no oil consumption (consumed a little before valve seals). Pic was during valve seal change at 400k km mileage. Clean enough for me.

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Same I used only H n Shell oil 0-20w n since my engine now 112k km, plan use 5-30w she'll n now since jus gt the VRP with almost same price as the shell but cheaper than H oil ,try lo and I think my overboost little 1.5T engine can be cleaner n last long but then again by 150k km usually gt new car liou
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post Oct 13 2025, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Oct 13 2025, 02:38 PM)
Not sure how clean TS wants his engine internals to be. For me just go the easy route, choose a good quality, genuine engine oil that I can afford to OC often and easily buy off the shelf; the shell ultra 5w-40 from teso/lotuss giant etc.

Been using it on this car till now 420k km and still no oil consumption (consumed a little before valve seals). Pic was during valve seal change at 400k km mileage. Clean enough for me.

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Same feedback for shell helix Ultra 5w40. Can buy at Lotus Kajang cz they usually has big numbers of bottles and promotion.

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