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 How are you preparing for the future?, Market and Ecomonic gloom

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hoonanoo
post Sep 24 2025, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Sep 24 2025, 10:21 AM)
That and also with this visa free , they are coming in and not paying tax. For sure that is a different discussion.

Malaysia is stuck can move up the value chain and can bear to move back to the lower chain.

China people in order to survive this trade war are moving away from China and for sure coming to Malaysia. Easy speak Chinese unlike other countries. 

The industry I'm in is affected and I am saying this from first hand experience.

So while there is nothing much we can do , just thinking what we can do for ourself.

In the future I feel we will be moving back to blue collar job. All white collar will be AI
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If you are single, its an opportunity to find China wife since many coming here.

Aside from that, yes its getting far competitive.

A lot of PRC companies are setting up here, and they prefer to hire 50% of their workforce their own people. So unless you are really good and stand out, they will prefer their own people.

You see, back in CCP land, their citizens are being squeezed with lack of job opportunities. Every year millions of graduates come out, government is very worried at where to land them jobs. There are even high top scorers that can't find jobs. The top leadership of course worried lah, if no job means unrest. Obviously there is a secret plan, to invest overseas, set up their version of MNCs but they ship these people overseas and be based there, hopefully one day they become citizens, inter marry. So the govt back home don't have to worry about them lying flat in their country.

what industry r you in? IT ?
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post Sep 24 2025, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Sep 24 2025, 10:49 AM)
If you are single, its an opportunity to find China wife since many coming here.

Aside from that, yes its getting far competitive.

A lot of PRC companies are setting up here, and they prefer to hire 50% of their workforce their own people. So unless you are really good and stand out, they will prefer their own people.

You see, back in CCP land, their citizens are being squeezed with lack of job opportunities. Every year millions of graduates come out, government is very worried at where to land them jobs. There are even high top scorers that can't find jobs. The top leadership of course worried lah, if no job means unrest. Obviously there is a secret plan, to invest overseas, set up their version of MNCs but they ship these people overseas and be based there, hopefully one day they become citizens, inter marry. So the govt back home don't have to worry about them lying flat in their country.

what industry r you in? IT ?
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Some machinery la. Not IT.

China lady not easy to handle ohhh
hoonanoo
post Sep 24 2025, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Sep 24 2025, 10:53 AM)
Some machinery la. Not IT.

China lady not easy to handle ohhh
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Some CCP boss is like HK boss.

Be careful of those like to target one.

Once you make a mistake...they will keep haunting you, target you over and over again...

until you collapse under pressure.

But then again some CCP bosses are nice...still...they may not understand when you need to take AL for your child sick, or no penjaga stuff like that.
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post Sep 24 2025, 11:46 AM

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Managing my spending and making lifestyle adjustments, cos that's where I have 100% control.

My retired parents punya spending is like 2k-3k/month at most. Mana ada traveling eating out spending macam youthful days pon.
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post Sep 24 2025, 11:55 AM

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It's not all doom and gloom

Find better ways of making money and be grateful in life
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post Sep 24 2025, 12:28 PM

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Welcome to the world of competition

The world always needed blue collar workers
If u got that machinery skills , u won’t die and will become even more valuable if economy are good

But for now as u predict that dark days ahead
U need to beware of your spending
If you are rich enough , it’s time to make deals by pinching others to low price

Because this is always the cycle , world will always go up and down
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post Sep 24 2025, 01:04 PM

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I am in my early 40s.

Like previous poster mention, I am accumulating low risk passive income stream, such as property with rental yield, EPF, broad index ETF.

While continue to live the b40 lifestyle to keep expenses to the minimum.
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post Sep 24 2025, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Sep 24 2025, 01:04 PM)
I am in my early 40s.

Like previous poster mention, I am accumulating low risk passive income stream, such as property with rental yield, EPF, broad index ETF.

While continue to live the b40 lifestyle to keep expenses to the minimum.
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Single?
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post Sep 24 2025, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Sep 24 2025, 01:23 PM)
Single?
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Married
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post Sep 24 2025, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Sep 24 2025, 01:25 PM)
Married
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If wife happy for B40 life then u have done well.
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post Sep 24 2025, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Sep 24 2025, 01:36 PM)
If wife happy for B40 life then u have done well.
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Wife no complain because I got married to B40 factory worker, she getting used to the b40 lifestyle.
I won't consider living b40 lifestyle as success. biggrin.gif
True success is FIRE while still can buy anything without looking at the price tag.
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post Sep 24 2025, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(laksamana @ Sep 24 2025, 11:43 AM)
I'm not actually sure what others are doing, if anything at all.

Everywhere I see is many people are full-on YOLO, buying latest iPhones, everywhere new cars, people going for holidays etc.
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Mostly funded on credit, BNPL.
Emergency funds and savings are not en vogue now.
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post Sep 24 2025, 05:30 PM

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people should vote for a better govt next time
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post Sep 24 2025, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(laksamana @ Sep 24 2025, 10:43 AM)
I'm not actually sure what others are doing, if anything at all.

Everywhere I see is many people are full-on YOLO, buying latest iPhones, everywhere new cars, people going for holidays etc.
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So what's your plan to future proof yourself?

Most yolo because they don't see any hope. Why safe when you don't know what will bring tomorrow right?

I am not judging their choice. It's their life.
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Sep 24 2025, 11:03 AM)
Some CCP boss is like HK boss.

Be careful of those like to target one.

Once you make a mistake...they will keep haunting you, target you over and over again...

until you collapse under pressure.

But then again some CCP bosses are nice...still...they may not understand when you need to take AL for your child sick, or no penjaga stuff like that.
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No experience with chinaman company first hand. But second hand got la. Local company boss very traditional, loud mouth like gangsta , totally unreasonable.

But one of his staff got cancer he paid for the medical. Still his other staff complain about him. Cos keep kena blame for low production when though he already told them the problem. All my quotation he won't buy. Cos said expensive.

QUOTE(keybearer @ Sep 24 2025, 11:46 AM)
Managing my spending and making lifestyle adjustments, cos that's where I have 100% control.

My retired parents punya spending is like 2k-3k/month at most. Mana ada traveling eating out spending macam youthful days pon.
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Yeah sending is one thing. But apart from that?


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post Sep 24 2025, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(SuperTuhan @ Sep 24 2025, 12:28 PM)
Welcome to the world of competition

The world always needed blue collar workers
If u got that machinery skills , u won’t die and will become even more valuable if economy are good

But for now as u predict that dark days ahead
U need to beware of your spending
If you are rich enough , it’s time to make deals by pinching others to low price

Because this is always the cycle , world will always go up and down
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What's your plan? For sure I am not blue collar. Am thinking to switch to it..maybe a little too late.

Passive income I am covered i guess. Investment , rental.

I am holding on to buying cars.

QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Sep 24 2025, 01:04 PM)
I am in my early 40s.

Like previous poster mention, I am accumulating low risk passive income stream, such as property with rental yield, EPF, broad index ETF.

While continue to live the b40 lifestyle to keep expenses to the minimum.
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Yeah. It's good but these are passive. What about when you are retrenched or say AI starts to take over.
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Sep 24 2025, 06:51 PM)
No experience with chinaman company first hand. But second hand got la. Local company boss very traditional, loud mouth like gangsta , totally unreasonable.

But one of his staff got cancer he paid for the medical. Still his other staff complain about him. Cos keep kena blame for low production when though he already told them the problem. All my quotation he won't buy. Cos said expensive.
Yeah sending is one thing. But apart from that?
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Safe and effortless investments like EPF, TH, ASB. The rest just live & work like normal, nothing extraordinary.
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post Sep 24 2025, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Sep 24 2025, 05:51 PM)
No experience with chinaman company first hand. But second hand got la. Local company boss very traditional, loud mouth like gangsta , totally unreasonable.

But one of his staff got cancer he paid for the medical. Still his other staff complain about him. Cos keep kena blame for low production when though he already told them the problem. All my quotation he won't buy. Cos said expensive.
Yeah sending is one thing. But apart from that?
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Appreciate ur local boss.

CCP bosses, usually more favor their own people.

They got classes one, if you member of CCP - no1 treatment (no blame can come to u), if you ordinary CCP citizen - second class, if u cainis know mandarin - 3rd class, if you cainis banana - this class they despise the most.
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post Sep 24 2025, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Sep 24 2025, 08:04 AM)
Hi all,

Let's be frank here. I can see the situation is quite gloomy now

1. Sales tax- price increase
2. Job market gloomy with the AI taking over jobs
3. Chinese people coming in taking some jobs
4. Gov reducing subsidy
5. Uncertainty in USA with Taco
6. War in Europe not ending soon
7. No headcount in your company even though people resign.

For people in the 40s and 50s are the most at risk. I mean you have reached a certain level of salary/remuneration it's very difficult to find a better position.

How do you prepare yourself?

For me I like doing house work like installing lights, water heater etc. Was thinking of taking some wireman course . I guess these are AI proof for noq.

How about you guys?
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post Sep 24 2025, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Sep 24 2025, 05:55 PM)
Yeah. It's good but these are passive. What about when you are retrenched or say AI starts to take over.
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Thus the passive income, the whole idea is to have it fund the expenses should shit hit the fan.
Keep expenses to the minimum, save and invest as much as possible. Rinse and repeat.

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