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post Sep 15 2025, 09:44 AM, updated 3 months ago

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post Sep 15 2025, 09:48 AM

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After electric go thousand run away. You can take the deposit.
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Curi electric for cybertrooper 18 Jan also same need fined heavily too
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post Sep 15 2025, 09:59 AM

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TNB shall be the one stopping people from stealing instead they allow electricity stealing for months or years then come and ask for payment … so they deliberately want to profit from that … their system would have detected irregular consumptions …

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post Sep 15 2025, 10:02 AM

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mining used so much electric. it can hardly be profitable if u minus the tnb cost
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that's why, always ask for references from potential tenants...
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 09:59 AM)
TNB shall be the one stopping people from stealing instead they allow electricity stealing for months or years then come and ask for payment … so they deliberately want to profit from that … their system would have detected irregular consumptions …
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Fuuhhh, instead of putting the blame on pencuri, u r pointing on tnb. What logic is this lol.
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QUOTE(anakMY @ Sep 15 2025, 10:10 AM)
Fuuhhh, instead of putting the blame on pencuri, u r pointing on tnb. What logic is this lol.
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TNB also not penalizing the pencuri but landlord.
Pencuri gets away.

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post Sep 15 2025, 10:30 AM

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post Sep 15 2025, 10:33 AM

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tenaga should have in their system, when electricity overuse by 500.. cut terus - for resident property
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QUOTE(rootbeer @ Sep 15 2025, 10:33 AM)
tenaga should have in their system, when electricity overuse by 500.. cut terus - for resident property
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They cannot narrow down to per unit. Their central system shall be able to see sudden spike on average usage. But how to find is question, could be few hundred / thousand units served by one …


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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 09:59 AM)
TNB shall be the one stopping people from stealing instead they allow electricity stealing for months or years then come and ask for payment … so they deliberately want to profit from that … their system would have detected irregular consumptions …
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Ya, the govt should force TNB to take up responsibility instead of playing victim whilst profiting from real victim (landlord).
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QUOTE(kons @ Sep 15 2025, 10:02 AM)
mining used so much electric. it can hardly be profitable if u minus the tnb cost
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QUOTE(rootbeer @ Sep 15 2025, 10:33 AM)
tenaga should have in their system, when electricity overuse by 500.. cut terus - for resident property
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Now that TNB implemented smart meter for many users, they should be able to detect illogical power consumption easily… eg how is it logical if residential unit consume high power 24hr nonstop? Surely it’s being used to mine BS crypto.
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QUOTE(kons @ Sep 15 2025, 10:02 AM)
mining used so much electric. it can hardly be profitable if u minus the tnb cost
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That’s why tenant stole energy to mine lah doh.gif
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QUOTE(anakMY @ Sep 15 2025, 10:10 AM)
Fuuhhh, instead of putting the blame on pencuri, u r pointing on tnb. What logic is this lol.
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Nowadays with TNB smart meter, they should be able to detect irregularities very easily. It can be done even more efficiently with AI aids.
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post Sep 15 2025, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 15 2025, 10:59 AM)
Nowadays with TNB smart meter, they should be able to detect irregularities very easily. It can be done even more efficiently with AI aids.
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they bypass smart meter, how to detect like that? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 15 2025, 10:55 AM)
Now that TNB implemented smart meter for many users, they should be able to detect illogical power consumption easily… eg how is it logical if residential unit consume high power 24hr nonstop? Surely it’s being used to mine BS crypto.
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You may not understand the concept of how they steal electricity. The reason why it is called “stealing” because the cable didnt even pass thru the meter. Unlike the typical meter tampering and limit electricity passing thru the meter, they now perform total bypass.

The way i see it, owner of property shall not be liable, this is as if a thief steals goldbar from goldsmith and store in the unit, so goldsmith cannot put owner of property responsible of stealing the goldbar.
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 09:59 AM)
TNB shall be the one stopping people from stealing instead they allow electricity stealing for months or years then come and ask for payment … so they deliberately want to profit from that … their system would have detected irregular consumptions …
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QUOTE(ycs @ Sep 15 2025, 11:02 AM)
they bypass smart meter, how to detect like that?  biggrin.gif
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If not detectable, how tnb can even noticed it and estimate the loss?
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QUOTE(ycs @ Sep 15 2025, 11:02 AM)
they bypass smart meter, how to detect like that?  biggrin.gif
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Every 3 months call tnb go check. Say got electric issue
Ask for report.

If found steal electric, you got the report in hand.
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post Sep 15 2025, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Sep 15 2025, 11:10 AM)
If not detectable, how tnb can even noticed it and estimate the loss?
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Well, not sure about TNB and Suruhanjaya Tenaga, but in Sarawak here...

https://lawnet.sarawak.gov.my/lawnet_file/O...wNet%202024.pdf

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Provided that if the precise date when the meter was tampered or
damaged or when the supply line, apparatus or system was tampered,
altered or adjusted could not be ascertained by the licensee, the
amount of that loss shall not exceed five times the total amount of
energy, that is estimated by the licensee to have been lost or
dishonestly abstracted or consumed by the consumer, for a period of
thirty-six months prior to the date of discovery of the acts referred to
in paragraphs (a) and (b).


Basically, they will measure the amount of power flowing into the property before starting the whole disconnection and confiscation operation.

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post Sep 15 2025, 11:19 AM

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post Sep 15 2025, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Sep 15 2025, 10:10 AM)
Fuuhhh, instead of putting the blame on pencuri, u r pointing on tnb. What logic is this lol.
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Pencuri will curi regardless unless we actually raid their shit and jail them since they lack moral. There has to be a system in place to dissuade such action.
He's kinda right. Tnb should be able to detect the irregular usage and notify account owner for immediate action but they decided not to.
Not doing anything is just neglect and equally detrimental.

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 09:59 AM)
TNB shall be the one stopping people from stealing instead they allow electricity stealing for months or years then come and ask for payment … so they deliberately want to profit from that … their system would have detected irregular consumptions …
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this

summore tnb system is advance already, can always cut off after exceed the deposit limit what


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QUOTE(anakMY @ Sep 15 2025, 10:10 AM)
Fuuhhh, instead of putting the blame on pencuri, u r pointing on tnb. What logic is this lol.
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:20 AM)
Pencuri will curi regardless unless we actually raid their shit and jail them since they lack moral. There has to be a system in place to dissuade such action.   
He's kinda right. Tnb should be able to detect the irregular usage and notify account owner for immediate action but they decided not to. 
Not doing anything is just neglect and equally detrimental.
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tnb owned the system
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TNB wont able to pinpoint which unit is stealing however their pencawang of the area shall able to detect irregularities spike of consumption pattern as per normal consumption patterns … AI machine learning shit shall able to flag which pencawang … then deploy investigator to the area to tap and check … proactively preventing stealing of electricity…

However i saw the news previously, the owner suspect own tenant tap electricity, report police and TNB charge the owner RM 1 million backdate the usage stolen … wtf??

In that case, if i am owner, i will find electrician pays few thousand to untap the electricity (back to ori) will be cheaper than reporting to police and TNB.

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 09:59 AM)
TNB shall be the one stopping people from stealing instead they allow electricity stealing for months or years then come and ask for payment … so they deliberately want to profit from that … their system would have detected irregular consumptions …
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Ini macam police should be the one stopping thieves from stealing, instead police allow it to go on for months or years. They would have detected who have a lot criminal record.

QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 15 2025, 10:55 AM)
Now that TNB implemented smart meter for many users, they should be able to detect illogical power consumption easily… eg how is it logical if residential unit consume high power 24hr nonstop? Surely it’s being used to mine BS crypto.
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Smart meter also got way to bypass it la. The rate now is about 1.3k to 1.5k per meter. Don't go for those offer 500 per meter, itu scam punya, worst is u can't even report the fella for scamming you, coz you also trying to scam tnb lol

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:31 AM)
TNB wont able to pinpoint which unit is stealing however their pencawang of the area shall able to detect irregularities spike of consumption pattern as per normal consumption patterns … AI machine learning shit shall able to flag which pencawang … then deploy investigator to the area to tap and check … proactively preventing stealing of electricity…

However i saw the news previously, the owner suspect own tenant tap electricity, report police and TNB charge the owner RM 1 million backdate the usage stolen … wtf??

In that case, if i am owner, i will find electrician pays few thousand to untap the electricity (back to ori) will be cheaper than reporting to police and TNB.
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Correct. They charge based on the bill is under whose name. Worse is they also charge based on address, if under tenant name and tenant run away, they won't connect back the electricity until someone pays the backdated bill, in the end owner is the one suffer.

Best to just get someone to untap back, price about 800-1k per meter
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 15 2025, 10:55 AM)
Now that TNB implemented smart meter for many users, they should be able to detect illogical power consumption easily… eg how is it logical if residential unit consume high power 24hr nonstop? Surely it’s being used to mine BS crypto.
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I see your many post

No knowledge
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Mostly nonsense but you sound so serious


U know what is curi tnb???

If a user consume with normal TNB meter
Usage reflect on their bill, this is not curi
If bill unpaid = outstanding bill, still not curi



Curi = modified tnb meter or direct connect over meter.



U know why your are poor?
U hate reality n believe only nonsense

You don't think.
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:32 AM)
Ini macam police should be the one stopping thieves from stealing, instead police allow it to go on for months or years. They would have detected who have a lot criminal record.
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In fact police does do preemptive crime enforcement not always wait for phone calls. Like conduct more frequent patrol around area with higher crime rates or conduct more roadblock …
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 15 2025, 11:22 AM)
this

summore tnb system is advance already, can always cut off after exceed the deposit limit what
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Bro faham what is curi electric not, it means the meter can't detect, so it doesn't exceed the deposit limit le. Worst case is those tap directly from the electric wire totally no meter lol
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:05 AM)
You may not understand the concept of how they steal electricity. The reason why it is called “stealing” because the cable didnt even pass thru the meter. Unlike the typical meter tampering and limit electricity passing thru the meter, they now perform total bypass.

The way i see it, owner of property shall not be liable, this is as if a thief steals goldbar from goldsmith and store in the unit, so goldsmith cannot put owner of property responsible of stealing the goldbar.
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Same like owner rented the hse then the tenant killed someone in that hse, kenot find the tenant then catch the owner instead biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:32 AM)
Ini macam police should be the one stopping thieves from stealing, instead police allow it to go on for months or years. They would have detected who have a lot criminal record.
Smart meter also got way to bypass it la. The rate now is about 1.3k to 1.5k per meter. Don't go for those offer 500 per meter, itu scam punya, worst is u can't even report the fella for scamming you, coz you also trying to scam tnb lol
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:36 AM)
Bro faham what is curi electric not, it means the meter can't detect, so it doesn't exceed the deposit limit le. Worst case is those tap directly from the electric wire totally no meter lol
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I managed to lipot several houses who curi electric in the past - they kana slap with hefty fine , if kenot pay then naik Court
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 09:59 AM)
TNB shall be the one stopping people from stealing instead they allow electricity stealing for months or years then come and ask for payment … so they deliberately want to profit from that … their system would have detected irregular consumptions …
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They just say not my problem. The end.
My job is to supply and collect lui, that's all.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 15 2025, 11:45 AM)
I managed to lipot several houses who curi electric in the past - they kana slap with hefty fine , if kenot pay then naik Court
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How u find out?

I paranoid my tenant do bitcoin farming. Although electricity is under their name but tnb will still fuck me anyway because they could.
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In short, TNB will need to invest on some sort smart sub meter between pencawang to the user meter … like let say shoplot, every 10 units need to have another smart submeter. This will provide TNB more granular data on roughly which stretch of shoplots or houses that stealing electricity… from 1000 units down to 50 units making it easier to investigate…

And TNB cannot backdate charge owner more than 1 month something like that … so making them more proactive in search of the stealer ( if 1 month plus cannot find then they have to eat the loss)

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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Sep 15 2025, 11:43 AM)
Same like owner rented the hse then the tenant killed someone in that hse, kenot find the tenant then catch the owner instead biggrin.gif
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You think they only steal electricity just 1 night issit? Also that's why tnb should notify irregularities. If not, how can owner know when to act?

Murder only happen that one time. Unless it's death by torture over long time, then maybe can remand owner as complicit to said murder.
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:47 AM)
How u find out?

I paranoid my tenant do bitcoin farming. Although electricity is under their name but tnb will still fuck me anyway because they could.
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loose lips sink ships

some lcly topkek fella go boost which fella got lowest tnb bill in neighborhood ws group, stay corner lot summore, a/c switch on 24/7

make sense or not electric bill <rm100? cool2.gif

then go promote technician phone number who can do the "adjustment" on the same ws group

send anon lipot to tnb, later on from what I know, the technician kana arrest by police, go spill all his clients name, several houses kana slapped with hefty fine. tnb came with several staff at night do inspection.

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 15 2025, 11:53 AM)
loose lips sink ships

some lcly topkek fella go boost which fella got lowest tnb bill in neighborhood ws group, stay corner lot summore, a/c switch on 24/7

make sense or not electric bill <rm100?  cool2.gif

then go promote technician phone number who can do the "adjustment" on the same ws group

send anon lipot to tnb, later on from what I know, the technician kana arrest by police, go spill all his clients name, several houses kana slapped with hefty fine. tnb came with several staff at night do inspection.
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Wahh nice. Haha.


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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 09:59 AM)
TNB shall be the one stopping people from stealing instead they allow electricity stealing for months or years then come and ask for payment … so they deliberately want to profit from that … their system would have detected irregular consumptions …
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Our MP in parliament, have they raised this issue?
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 10:59 AM)
TNB shall be the one stopping people from stealing instead they allow electricity stealing for months or years then come and ask for payment … so they deliberately want to profit from that … their system would have detected irregular consumptions …
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True. They should have a kill switch if suddenly the usage exceeded 300% of the market rate. Then verify with owner only proceed to unlock
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QUOTE(anakMY @ Sep 15 2025, 11:10 AM)
Fuuhhh, instead of putting the blame on pencuri, u r pointing on tnb. What logic is this lol.
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Bank also will ask if suddenly a huge sum of amount being transfer out.

TnB cheebuy just let it jalan and in the end go Saman owner.
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:47 AM)
How u find out?

I paranoid my tenant do bitcoin farming. Although electricity is under their name but tnb will still fuck me anyway because they could.
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Correct, the arrear amount is tied to property address.
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Yup, one of my tenant did that. Rented it out to a local guy, agreement with his company. He siap changed the TNB account under his name so that didn't raise any suspicion at all.

Fast forward 1 year, got a call from Sarjan saying the tenant curi elektrik to run his Mining business (from a double storey house). We stormed in and saw a small partition was built with 8 holes in the 3rd room. One small part of the upper ceiling was broken. All the windows were sealed and covered with chipboard, all windows tinted heavily and full black-out curtains was used.

The tenant went MIA.
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QUOTE(ycs @ Sep 15 2025, 11:02 AM)
they bypass smart meter, how to detect like that?  biggrin.gif
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Bro, u think TNB can’t compare total meter usage of individual users in an area with the total actual powder delivered to the area to detect there is power theft?
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:05 AM)
You may not understand the concept of how they steal electricity. The reason why it is called “stealing” because the cable didnt even pass thru the meter. Unlike the typical meter tampering and limit electricity passing thru the meter, they now perform total bypass.

The way i see it, owner of property shall not be liable, this is as if a thief steals goldbar from goldsmith and store in the unit, so goldsmith cannot put owner of property responsible of stealing the goldbar.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 15 2025, 12:42 PM)
Bro, u think TNB can’t compare total meter usage of individual users in an area with the total actual powder delivered to the area to detect there is power theft?
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 15 2025, 10:55 AM)
Now that TNB implemented smart meter for many users, they should be able to detect illogical power consumption easily… eg how is it logical if residential unit consume high power 24hr nonstop? Surely it’s being used to mine BS crypto.
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I say the real idiot could be TNB. it is clearly a design issue.
this is how the Sarawak Energy (similar to TNB) works:
1. you abuse electricity too much.
2. SE come to your house and take away a "fuse" at the meter.
3. you buy a "fuse" and reinstall.
4. step 2 and 3 repeat.
5. you already profit enough.
6. repeat

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QUOTE(EX Unseen Forces @ Sep 15 2025, 09:44 AM)
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should be sentence to electrocute alive, without death...

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 15 2025, 12:52 PM)
I say the real idiot could be TNB. it is clearly a design issue.
this is how the Sarawak Energy (similar to TNB) works:
1. you abuse electricity too much.
2. SE come to your house and take away a "fuse" at the meter.
3. you buy a "fuse" and reinstall.
4. step 2 and 3 repeat.
5. you already profit enough.
6. repeat
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If you use a lot of= more profit, why confiscate your fuse?
Electricity has no quota, right? All postpaid.
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QUOTE(EX Unseen Forces @ Sep 15 2025, 10:44 AM)
Harsh punishment involving rotan should be applied. And IC blacklisted by landlords wink.gif
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its so easy to curi electric.... tnb is sleeping


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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 01:15 PM)
If you use a lot of= more profit, why confiscate your fuse?
Electricity has no quota, right? All postpaid.
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because user is not paying
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QUOTE(twosocks @ Sep 15 2025, 12:17 PM)
Our MP in parliament, have they raised this issue?
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It should work both ways. TNB can definitely detect irregularities, but it requires more effort. Every substation has its own main meter, so they could cross-check and spot inconsistencies. But why bother when they can simply go all out to claim backdated payments, which is far more profitable for them?

There have been many cases where a tenant rents a unit for two years and uses it for crypto mining, yet TNB issues a backdated bill covering up to ten years. That means they can easily pocket eight years’ worth of extra charges. It’s basically daylight robbery. That’s why, in recent years, we’ve seen several owners hit with million-ringgit lawsuits from TNB.


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Please la, those who keep saying “why not just change the bill to the tenant’s name” to avoid trouble — did you even read the news? Property owners still end up in court even when the electric bill is under the offender’s name. And when that offender goes MIA, the owner can’t even reconnect the supply until the case is settled. So in the end, it’s just LPPL.

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 15 2025, 12:52 PM)
I say the real idiot could be TNB. it is clearly a design issue.
this is how the Sarawak Energy (similar to TNB) works:
1. you abuse electricity too much.
2. SE come to your house and take away a "fuse" at the meter.
3. you buy a "fuse" and reinstall.
4. step 2 and 3 repeat.
5. you already profit enough.
6. repeat
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Step 3 ---> Kena penalty arrear due to illegal reconnection. dry.gif
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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Sep 15 2025, 01:45 PM)
It should work both ways. TNB can definitely detect irregularities, but it requires more effort. Every substation has its own main meter, so they could cross-check and spot inconsistencies. But why bother when they can simply go all out to claim backdated payments, which is far more profitable for them?

There have been many cases where a tenant rents a unit for two years and uses it for crypto mining, yet TNB issues a backdated bill covering up to ten years. That means they can easily pocket eight years’ worth of extra charges. It’s basically daylight robbery. That’s why, in recent years, we’ve seen several owners hit with million-ringgit lawsuits from TNB.
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Please la, those who keep saying “why not just change the bill to the tenant’s name” to avoid trouble — did you even read the news? Property owners still end up in court even when the electric bill is under the offender’s name. And when that offender goes MIA, the owner can’t even reconnect the supply until the case is settled. So in the end, it’s just LPPL.
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Many online merepek dont own property in the first place. Lol.


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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 15 2025, 11:53 AM)
loose lips sink ships

some lcly topkek fella go boost which fella got lowest tnb bill in neighborhood ws group, stay corner lot summore, a/c switch on 24/7

make sense or not electric bill <rm100?  cool2.gif

then go promote technician phone number who can do the "adjustment" on the same ws group

send anon lipot to tnb, later on from what I know, the technician kana arrest by police, go spill all his clients name, several houses kana slapped with hefty fine. tnb came with several staff at night do inspection.
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brother why wanna show off, gg
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 15 2025, 01:24 PM)
because user is not paying
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In this case, user is paying promptly their bill.
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QUOTE(TsubakiKira @ Sep 15 2025, 02:10 PM)
brother why wanna show off, gg
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Alot of people steal from TNB, be it Bitcoin mining or normal meter tampering or bypass. Earlier also got one house owner install Tesla charger find technician to install before his home meter to bypass. Also caught and pretend stupid dunno. Most landed also steal/bypass during renovation time …senyap only, if want to check sure alot will sink … but house one is small fries, likely TNB deliberately wait 10-20 yrs then to backdate…

This also not inclusive those illegal food stalls tapping from lamp post consuming local council electricity… if catch them will use gov zalim card

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 03:13 PM)
In this case, user is paying promptly their bill.
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no. user is not paying. basically get free electricity.
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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Sep 15 2025, 01:45 PM)
It should work both ways. TNB can definitely detect irregularities, but it requires more effort. Every substation has its own main meter, so they could cross-check and spot inconsistencies. But why bother when they can simply go all out to claim backdated payments, which is far more profitable for them?

There have been many cases where a tenant rents a unit for two years and uses it for crypto mining, yet TNB issues a backdated bill covering up to ten years. That means they can easily pocket eight years’ worth of extra charges. It’s basically daylight robbery. That’s why, in recent years, we’ve seen several owners hit with million-ringgit lawsuits from TNB.
Extra:

Please la, those who keep saying “why not just change the bill to the tenant’s name” to avoid trouble — did you even read the news? Property owners still end up in court even when the electric bill is under the offender’s name. And when that offender goes MIA, the owner can’t even reconnect the supply until the case is settled. So in the end, it’s just LPPL.
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Need to pressure current govt to revise existing laws or directly instruct TNB to change their BS way.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 15 2025, 10:56 AM)
That’s why tenant stole energy to mine lah doh.gif
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the tenants did not steal, they just don't pay for the electricity
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:05 AM)
You may not understand the concept of how they steal electricity. The reason why it is called “stealing” because the cable didnt even pass thru the meter. Unlike the typical meter tampering and limit electricity passing thru the meter, they now perform total bypass.

The way i see it, owner of property shall not be liable, this is as if a thief steals goldbar from goldsmith and store in the unit, so goldsmith cannot put owner of property responsible of stealing the goldbar.
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if not passing thru the meter, then how TNB determine how much electricity was stolen?
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 15 2025, 11:22 AM)
this

summore tnb system is advance already, can always cut off after exceed the deposit limit what
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but why TNB don't do this?
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 03:23 PM)
Alot of people steal from TNB, be it Bitcoin mining or normal meter tampering or bypass. Earlier also got one house owner install Tesla charger find technician to install before his home meter to bypass. Also caught and pretend stupid dunno. Most landed also steal/bypass during renovation time …senyap only, if want to check sure alot will sink … but house one is small fries, likely TNB deliberately wait 10-20 yrs then to backdate…

This also not inclusive those illegal food stalls tapping from lamp post consuming local council electricity… if catch them will use gov zalim card
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want to shout out to the gov who still retain the illegal row of shoplots near our place, but at least they're still paying, i think?

they want to bypass, if kena then it's their fault lor. akin to playing lottery, but praying that you don't kena strike instead.
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Sep 15 2025, 04:12 PM)
the tenants did not steal, they just don't pay for the electricity
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Either way the tenant manage to profit from mining becoz they averted TNB cost one way or another.
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So many lazy landlords over here, go and get ur tenant la, work for real and check monthly if any tapered wiring.


For me I have epf, which KWSP have investment in tnb, if tnb rugi=kwsp rugi=less dividen for me

So fuck off and go work for once
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Sep 15 2025, 04:12 PM)
the tenants did not steal, they just don't pay for the electricity
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Betul......like the lowyat hero that didn't steal the smartphones, he just didn't pay for it. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 15 2025, 03:59 PM)
no. user is not paying. basically get free electricity.
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They are paying what is billed. Not paying what is not billed. The electricity being tapped will not show on the meter.

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Sep 15 2025, 04:13 PM)
if not passing thru the meter, then how TNB determine how much electricity was stolen?
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You have one big pipe channelling 15L of water to 10 bottles. Each of the bottles with capacity of 1L. By math, there is an excess of 5L that dunno went to where.

This is TNB problem… they can tell how much output from their local power station which serving hundred of houses/offices and they know how much recorded on each unit meter … but number doesnt add up … finding the leakage is challenging to them.


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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 06:12 PM)
They are paying what is billed. Not paying what is not billed. The electricity being tapped will not show on the meter.
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I repeat again. user is not paying anything.
nothing is tapped.
you may think this doesn't make sense and stupid but that's just how reality is.

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Most importantly, go after the government side first before talking.

You see, they can owe up to RM61 million — do you think it’s only this body doing it?

There are more, but TNB just keeps quiet because in the end, they still can’t cut the supply.

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 09:59 AM)
TNB shall be the one stopping people from stealing instead they allow electricity stealing for months or years then come and ask for payment … so they deliberately want to profit from that … their system would have detected irregular consumptions …
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They culprit normally bypassing the meter..so its not recorded in tnb meter
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QUOTE(yed @ Sep 15 2025, 11:14 PM)
They culprit normally bypassing the meter..so its not recorded in tnb meter
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TNB irregularities can be seen from the substation, can audit one by one for all houses/shops served by same substation… TNB has right to check their meter and cabling as those are their assets. It is a difficult task but it shall not take more than a year to check.
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