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post Sep 12 2025, 03:15 PM, updated 3 months ago

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In the past, it was a quota system, and he wanted meritocracy. When it became meritocracy, Bumiputera numbers increased even more because they were strong.

Now he’s bringing up the STPM vs. Matriculation issue, claiming that Matric is another quota. He tries to exaggerate by giving an example of someone ranked 1129 in STPM who didn’t even take Math but wanna take account

He says Matric students are “dumb,” even though those entering Matric are among the selected top SPM students. To him, STPM is a higher caste and more powerful.

Now he wants to abolish Matric and make everyone take STPM.

Fast forward, even in STPM Bumiputera will dominate because of population numbers while the nons birth rate lower—just look at SPM results as the closest example where even with single exam the bumi dominate in high score
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If Matriculation is guaranteed to a first degree program and has quota for it, what made you think the entry to first degree is based on Meritocracy?
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Since nons not having babies anyway then nothing to worry lor

Abolish Matrikulasi quota jer based on merit easy
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post Sep 12 2025, 03:23 PM

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Go NUS or NTU la. Kan boleh?
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Cukup lah TS.
Every Malaysian knows what it is, despite many people trying to pusing the topic.
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Calm the fuck down la, why both side want to show superiority.

Meritocracy can only work if we only use one standardized exam for entry to university, abolish stpm and matriculation or both stay but standardized the exam and weightage given for each component
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Non-bumis make up 13.5% of public uni enrolment, Dewan Rakyat told
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why so hard abolish both, come up with something more focussed to the foundation program or diploma level. you go to the specific degree you want after, get it recognize by local public and private college, uni alike

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post Sep 12 2025, 03:31 PM

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Matric student is selected from top SPM students?

Are you sure?

Do you know those nons who are 9A+ SPM not even selected to matric?

And those with cukup makan As got selected to Matric?

Then the nons got pushed into STPM. And the cukup makan As one got selected to matrics. And the matrics end up with higher overall score than STPM students due to the advantages they gained in matrics.

And call that stronger? Fuuh. No wonder Malaysia tak maju. Kalau minority migrate habislah turn into indonesia

Stupid JPT create a matric path for non nons. And make nons go STPM. Haha and use their merits together for ranking students to go into IPTA and say it's based on merit.

Baguslah. The STPM won't get the course they want and NUS, Tsinghua accept them. This shows that higher ranking uni acknowledge their talents compared to local sampah uni. You matric 4.0 top student pergi Peking and Tsinghua la. See they accept or not?

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I propose new system STFU for TS to unify STPM and Matriks

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post Sep 12 2025, 03:37 PM

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I dont know if i exercise abit of otak capabilities pun i cant help to nak question ada mungkin 1 year wujud 1128 applicants for accounting course with perfect CGPA 4.0 + 10 marks curriculum that is better than 99.9 (hence ranked 1129).

More likely the case the the 1128 people are sums of all perfect score top scorer but good portion of it apply for Med, Lawyer, Pharmacies and other.

Then that 1129 is not the true picture but only to confuse simple minded people like TS. So if its real meritocracy, why can't show the real ranking in just accounting applicants only. Aku rasa lebih kepada manatukkasi la meritocracy konon.
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Wait.. did I lose track to the meaning of meritocracy? My English degraded over night?

Last I understand matriculation is gate-kept at 90% quota bumiputra only, asasi 100% respectively. Both are 2 major pathway to public uni admission.

TS, what did I miss reading your para 1 > “When it became meritocracy” and the whole post #1 posting?

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In the past, it was a quota system, and he wanted meritocracy. When it became meritocracy, Bumiputera numbers increased even more because they were strong

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So strong but afraid to remove quotas in all shapes n forms
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Yes, true M are the smartest now. So in that case, why not abolish quota for Matric? Takut apa? Make Matric intake based on merit.

Also open up UiTM to all since M are now fully capable to excel on their own. Why still need fixed deposit of 35% public university seat in UiTM?
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QUOTE(susukambing @ Sep 12 2025, 03:31 PM)


Baguslah. The STPM won't get the course they want and NUS, Tsinghua accept them. This shows that higher ranking uni acknowledge their talents compared to local sampah uni. You matric 4.0 top student pergi Peking and Tsinghua la. See they accept or not?

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if UM is local sampah uni, why he die die want to enter? cool2.gif
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Sep 12 2025, 03:41 PM)
Wait.. did I lose track to the meaning of meritocracy? My English degraded over night?

Last I understand matriculation is gate-kept at 90% quota bumiputra only, asasi 100% respectively. Both are 2 major pathway to public uni admission.

TS, what did I miss reading your para 1 > “When it became meritocracy” and the whole post #1 posting?

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In the past, it was a quota system, and he wanted meritocracy. When it became meritocracy, Bumiputera numbers increased even more because they were strong
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100 meter race, one using rempit bike, another using lawn mover. Can guess the winner, cite TS because they are 'strong' and its a fair race.
To be honest, all nons should have a backup plan to get out. Maybe not current but your offspring should exit.

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Inb4 thread move to Education Essential
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 12 2025, 03:53 PM)
if UM is local sampah uni, why he die die want to enter?  cool2.gif
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This guy dunno how many malaysian can get into Tsinghua and keep fapping macam can pancut to Peking
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QUOTE(V3i HoN6 @ Sep 12 2025, 03:37 PM)
I dont know if i exercise abit of otak capabilities pun i cant help to nak question ada mungkin 1 year wujud 1128 applicants for accounting course with perfect CGPA 4.0 + 10 marks curriculum that is better than 99.9 (hence ranked 1129).

More likely the case the the 1128 people are sums of all perfect score top scorer but good portion of it apply for Med, Lawyer, Pharmacies and other.

Then that 1129 is not the true picture but only to confuse simple minded people like TS. So if its real meritocracy, why can't show the real ranking in just accounting applicants only. Aku rasa lebih kepada manatukkasi la meritocracy konon.
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In Edward’s case, the MOE has clarified that the 1127 candidates ranked ahead of him all achieved 100 full merit marks( with a 4.00 CGPA with maximum cocuriculum scores. There are only 1266 straight As STPM students in total and even if 10% of them applied for accountancy (which is very unlikely) that would still leave around 900–1000 matriculation students from the arts stream holding full merit marks.

It is also highly unlikely and almost impossible that science stream students with a perfect 4.00 CGPA would apply for accountancy. Edward himself is ranked 2nd among those with a 99.90 merit score, so his subject combination should not have been an issue for the ranking contrary to what TS claimed.
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Think out of the box.
Based on meritocracy maybe even worse for minority.

Because now bumi has the most top scorer.

Without quota maybe even less able to enter
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QUOTE(amboi_asamboi @ Sep 12 2025, 04:03 PM)
This guy dunno how many malaysian can get into Tsinghua and keep fapping macam can pancut to Peking
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I belip that kid can be another MCA politician in few years time cool2.gif

see now he got scholarship

memang cerah masa depan
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QUOTE(Efalex @ Sep 12 2025, 03:17 PM)
If Matriculation is guaranteed to a first degree program and has quota for it, what made you think the entry to first degree is based on Meritocracy?
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 12 2025, 03:15 PM)
In the past, it was a quota system, and he wanted meritocracy. When it became meritocracy, Bumiputera numbers increased even more because they were strong.

Now he’s bringing up the STPM vs. Matriculation issue, claiming that Matric is another quota. He tries to exaggerate by giving an example of someone ranked 1129 in STPM who didn’t even take Math but wanna take account

He says Matric students are “dumb,” even though those entering Matric are among the selected top SPM students. To him, STPM is a higher caste and more powerful.

Now he wants to abolish Matric and make everyone take STPM.

Fast forward, even in STPM Bumiputera will dominate because of population numbers while the nons birth rate lower—just look at SPM results as the closest example where even with single exam the bumi dominate in high score
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 12 2025, 03:53 PM)
if UM is local sampah uni, why he die die want to enter?  cool2.gif
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Wong’s sister is there too

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QUOTE(susukambing @ Sep 12 2025, 03:31 PM)
Matric student is selected from top SPM students?

Are you sure?

Do you know those nons who are 9A+ SPM not even selected to matric?

And those with cukup makan As got selected to Matric?

Then the nons got pushed into STPM. And the cukup makan As one got selected to matrics. And the matrics end up with higher overall score than STPM students due to the advantages they gained in matrics.

And call that stronger? Fuuh. No wonder Malaysia tak maju. Kalau minority migrate habislah turn into indonesia

Stupid JPT create a matric path for non nons. And make nons go STPM. Haha and use their merits together for ranking students to go into IPTA and say it's based on merit.

Baguslah. The STPM won't get the course they want and NUS, Tsinghua accept them. This shows that higher ranking uni acknowledge their talents compared to local sampah uni. You matric 4.0 top student pergi Peking and Tsinghua la. See they accept or not?
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Local sampah uni they say, tapi every year bising2 coz couldn't enter local sampah uni.
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QUOTE(novblaze @ Sep 12 2025, 04:05 PM)
Think out of the box.
Based on meritocracy maybe even worse for minority.

Because now bumi has the most top scorer.

Without quota maybe even less able to enter
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i cant brain why this is not logical to them?
many melies are dumb, true,very true. but that doesn't mean everyone is stupid.

now with critical courses selection being so competitive, SPM results have become selection criteria, which race again so brave taking 14, 15, 16, 17 subjects in SPM? ohhh they taking religious subject for those additional subject, yeah, are you assuming those are easy to score? doesnt it caused core subjects to receive less focus time resource?

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The stupid thing they did was to create stupid separate systems in the first place, now wanna maintain fine, but maybe implement universal college entrance exams instead of separate exams for each kursus, whatever those programs wanna teach and how, lantaklah, but grade everyone with the same papers and universities should make it clear which subjects are mandatory prereqs for what course then students decide. Why so complicated. Just do like USA/china SATs or gaokao. Settle. Then admit based on those test scores, test is same so is fair.
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No point trying to spin and twist, release the full list with details then we talk.

Until that happen, this is the fact.

But if you want to talk about why the exclusive express path is mostly reserved for 1 group, we can continue.

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Menteri Pendidikan Tinggi, Datuk Seri Dr Zambry Abd Kadir, berkata bagi calon lepasan Matrikulasi, seramai 18,803 calon termasuk 15,993 calon Bumiputera ditawarkan ke IPTA pada sesi akademik 2024/2025.

Beliau berkata pada sesi akademik 2023/2024, calon lepasan Matrikulasi yang berjaya ditawarkan ke IPTA adalah terdiri daripada 16,557 calon Bumiputera dan 2,796 calon Bukan Bumiputera.

“Pada sesi akademik 2023/2024, calon lepasan Asasi yang berjaya ditawarkan ke IPTA terdiri daripada 3,768 calon Bumiputera dan 50 calon bukan Bumiputera.

“Pada sesi akademik 2024/2025 pula, lepasan Asasi yang berjaya ditawarkan ke IPTA adalah seramai 3,775 calon Bumiputera dan 133 calon bukan Bumiputera.

https://www.nasionaldaily.com/2024/11/06/le...sesi-2024-2025/
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i also get utm last time but the offer came much slower than mmu and taruc
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 12 2025, 03:15 PM)
In the past, it was a quota system, and he wanted meritocracy. When it became meritocracy, Bumiputera numbers increased even more because they were strong.

Now he’s bringing up the STPM vs. Matriculation issue, claiming that Matric is another quota. He tries to exaggerate by giving an example of someone ranked 1129 in STPM who didn’t even take Math but wanna take account

He says Matric students are “dumb,” even though those entering Matric are among the selected top SPM students. To him, STPM is a higher caste and more powerful.

Now he wants to abolish Matric and make everyone take STPM.

Fast forward, even in STPM Bumiputera will dominate because of population numbers while the nons birth rate lower—just look at SPM results as the closest example where even with single exam the bumi dominate in high score
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According your logic, also checking past 60 years olympic medalist from Malaysia
Chinese = 80% population in this country.

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Face the Facts lah

From PM1 till PM10, all malay leader most worry in this Country = Chinese.

They too powerful

even cut off LKY and singapore to water down the ratio


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QUOTE(chinteck79 @ Sep 12 2025, 03:19 PM)
u swim in the sea, they swim in swimming pool same 100m. they laugh at you for being 0.1s slower
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this is the best analogy to date
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QUOTE(EX Unseen Forces @ Sep 12 2025, 03:23 PM)
Go NUS or NTU la. Kan boleh?
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NUS NTU need to pay. at least SGD80k

UM thru UPU fees only RM8k

The boy already got SATU offer from UM, but fees is RM80k.

Imagine going to the same class as your classmate, taking the same degree, but you have to pay 10 times more.

That extra 72k can buy Honda City already.
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Sep 12 2025, 04:58 PM)
NUS NTU need to pay. at least SGD80k

UM thru UPU fees only RM8k

The boy already got SATU offer from UM, but fees is RM80k.

Imagine going to the same class as your classmate, taking the same degree, but you have to pay 10 times more.

That extra 72k can buy Honda City already.
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You only can go thru SATU, might as well go NUS NTU jer.
I believe they offer scholarship for cgpa 4.0 students.
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QUOTE(EX Unseen Forces @ Sep 12 2025, 05:00 PM)
You only can go thru SATU, might as well go NUS NTU jer.
I believe they offer scholarship for cgpa 4.0 students.
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Problem is NTU/NUS also don't want student ranked 1129
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 12 2025, 03:15 PM)
In the past, it was a quota system, and he wanted meritocracy. When it became meritocracy, Bumiputera numbers increased even more because they were strong.

Now he’s bringing up the STPM vs. Matriculation issue, claiming that Matric is another quota. He tries to exaggerate by giving an example of someone ranked 1129 in STPM who didn’t even take Math but wanna take account

He says Matric students are “dumb,” even though those entering Matric are among the selected top SPM students. To him, STPM is a higher caste and more powerful.

Now he wants to abolish Matric and make everyone take STPM.

Fast forward, even in STPM Bumiputera will dominate because of population numbers while the nons birth rate lower—just look at SPM results as the closest example where even with single exam the bumi dominate in high score
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QUOTE(trojandude @ Sep 11 2025, 02:21 PM)
https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/s/8vA82YBRnD

Bumiputera logic - “University don’t have quota. We practice meritocracy”

Reality - Matriculation program with 90% Bumi Quota and one year shorter and higher priority

user posted image

Another excuse - “Why take STPM…kannnn can take asasi”

Reality - Bumi only

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Malays literally gate keep education from the poorer non Malays but sure, let’s continue to pretend that it is completely okay because top 10 richest Malaysians are mostly Chinese.

Let’s use the top 0.01% Chinese to screw every other race in Malaysia. This is Malay logic. Born Indian? Double whammy bro sorry cina sudah kaya but I will discriminate you too.
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Sep 12 2025, 04:51 PM)
According your logic, also checking past 60 years olympic medalist from Malaysia
Chinese = 80% population in this country.

user posted image
Face the Facts lah

From PM1 till PM10, all malay leader most worry in this Country = Chinese.

They too powerful

even cut off LKY and singapore to water down the ratio
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not really

malay helang dont fear the cina

what the fear most the the pipit smarten up then revolt against them like Nepal
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Masa debate lagi? Why still can't accept that the system is not fair and we just have to live with it?

If want to be fair, there will be no matric, no sjkc, sjkt.

Esok cuti guys.. jom relax.. mohon share more tered perpaduan.
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This is 1 interesting read. And it goes back to mid of 2025 where DAP Wong Kah Wah say he will share the intake statistic but until now still didn't disclose the magic number.
The only 1127 you can believe is esok 4D number.

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Sep 12 2025, 04:17 PM)
i cant brain why this is not logical to them?
many melies are dumb, true,very true.  but that doesn't mean everyone is stupid.

now with critical courses selection being so competitive, SPM results have become selection criteria, which race again so brave taking 14, 15, 16, 17 subjects in SPM? ohhh they taking religious subject for those additional subject, yeah, are you assuming those are easy to score? doesnt it caused core subjects to receive less focus time resource?
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Exactly

TS twisted it like there's no quota system for matriculation at all

QUOTE(backspace66 @ Sep 12 2025, 03:25 PM)
Calm the fuck down la, why both side want to show superiority.

Meritocracy can only work if we only use one standardized exam for entry to university, abolish stpm and matriculation or both stay but standardized the exam and weightage given for each component
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Moreover, their 100m is different from the actual 100m

QUOTE(chinteck79 @ Sep 12 2025, 03:19 PM)
u swim in the sea, they swim in swimming pool same 100m. they laugh at you for being 0.1s slower
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Dey, lu org tak mau 4 flat students, Jiran sebelah sudah gelak ketawa, draft offer letter dan scholarship aldy.

You org always losers, jgn kecewa kalau negara mundur
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 12 2025, 03:15 PM)
In the past, it was a quota system, and he wanted meritocracy. When it became meritocracy, Bumiputera numbers increased even more because they were strong.

Now he’s bringing up the STPM vs. Matriculation issue, claiming that Matric is another quota. He tries to exaggerate by giving an example of someone ranked 1129 in STPM who didn’t even take Math but wanna take account

He says Matric students are “dumb,” even though those entering Matric are among the selected top SPM students. To him, STPM is a higher caste and more powerful.

Now he wants to abolish Matric and make everyone take STPM.

Fast forward, even in STPM Bumiputera will dominate because of population numbers while the nons birth rate lower—just look at SPM results as the closest example where even with single exam the bumi dominate in high score
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matric students are dumb not because they are selected top SPM students. They are dumb because the matric syllabus is dumb, students are unprepared to enter 1st year with basic knowledge. You can take this from me as a lecturer who needs to teach back basic STPM math to uni students doh.gif
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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Sep 12 2025, 08:54 PM)
matric students are dumb not because they are selected top SPM students. They are dumb because the matric syllabus is dumb, students are unprepared to enter 1st year with basic knowledge. You can take this from me as a lecturer who needs to teach back basic STPM math to uni students  doh.gif
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then why are you bother teaching those basic? when i was metric i got left behind in study alot, where got the teacher slow down teaching so students can catch up. masuk uni lagilah lecturer dont care students faham or not, you are on your own.

are time really change now,adult students need to be handholded like a kid?
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Sep 12 2025, 10:44 PM)
then why are you bother teaching those basic? when i was metric i got left behind in study alot, where got the teacher slow down teaching so students can catch up. masuk uni lagilah lecturer dont care students faham or not, you are on your own.

are time really change now,adult students need to be handholded like a kid?
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back then only 1-2 matric student, they fail their business. Then came 10 matric students, they fail, ok need to explain abit to my head. now 30+ matric students in a class, fail? Nothing I explain to my head can justify, so in the end the solution is to make the exams easier and cut the syllabus as well. And you wonder why nowadays they say uni students come out with no knowledge and not prepared for the work force. It's not they lacking "soft skills" as people claim, it is they lack "all kinds of skills" whistling.gif
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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Sep 12 2025, 11:36 PM)
back then only 1-2 matric student, they fail their business. Then came 10 matric students, they fail, ok need to explain abit to my head. now 30+ matric students in a class, fail? Nothing I explain to my head can justify, so in the end the solution is to make the exams easier and cut the syllabus as well. And you wonder why nowadays they say uni students come out with no knowledge and not prepared for the work force. It's not they lacking "soft skills" as people claim, it is they lack "all kinds of skills"  whistling.gif
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so its the new generation that is shit then.
we are screwed, there goes my pension money ranting.gif
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so its the new generation that is shit then.
we are screwed, there goes my pension money ranting.gif
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even those STPM students, they go to uni get 4.0 CGPA and think themselves very great. In fact they lacking everything compared to their seniors 10-20years ago with just passing CGPA. MAtrikulasi destroyed a whole generation of malaysian academics whistling.gif
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so its the new generation that is shit then.
we are screwed, there goes my pension money ranting.gif
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https://my.linkedin.com/in/tang-yi-ze-485462330

Umamy guy roflmao
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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Sep 12 2025, 11:40 PM)
even those STPM students, they go to uni get 4.0 CGPA and think themselves very great. In fact they lacking everything compared to their seniors 10-20years ago with just passing CGPA. MAtrikulasi destroyed a whole generation of malaysian academics  whistling.gif
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smart phone didnt make people smarter, artificial intelligent unlikely make people more intelligent.
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if UM is local sampah uni, why he die die want to enter?  cool2.gif
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Yap so weird already know UM is sampah uni but insist on going into sampah uni. Logic 404.

Even cry to Wee Wee summore just because kena rejected by sampah uni. Topkek.
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Matriculation is Malays backdoor

Don't triggered and shouting racist

Dr M said so..... Takkan Dr M mau tipu kan

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.malaymail....in-too1/1750183
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Local sampah uni they say, tapi every year bising2 coz couldn't enter local sampah uni.
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I propose new system STFU for TS to unify STPM and Matriks

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Problem is NTU/NUS also don't want student ranked 1129
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QUOTE(superbike @ Sep 13 2025, 01:34 AM)
Yap so weird already know UM is sampah uni but insist on going into sampah uni. Logic 404.

Even cry to Wee Wee summore just because kena rejected by sampah uni. Topkek.
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like I said lah, this kind of fella, if dont get what he want, will cry die die want it

now he got it. scholarship summore. wah already save so much mang. cool2.gif
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Good idea but cannot lah!
You have to maintain the illusion of "no racial quota", lah.
Just a totally unrelated coincidence that 90% of matriculation spots magically float to biumiputera — complete with one year time-saving express lane and all. Meanwhile, the rest can take the scenic two-year STPM route: longer, harder, and somehow still expected to compete in the same race.
But hey, it's all "merit-based", right? As long as you squint really hard, mix up your comparison metrics, and pretend Matrix, Asasi, and STPM are exactly the same thing, you can convince yourself it’s a level playing field. Like comparing durians, orange and apples — both are fruits, kan?
The system, of course, relies heavily on people not noticing this. Because if everyone suddenly decided, “Let’s all go STPM then!” — kaboom, the whole carefully calibrated illusion collapses faster than your CGPA in Form 6.
And yet, somehow, the national pastime remains: missing the point entirely while passionately arguing about everything except the actual issue. Bravo. Truly, we are a nation of master divers — not in the Olympics, but in deflecting hard truths.
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Sep 13 2025, 01:40 AM)
Matriculation is Malays backdoor

Don't triggered and shouting racist

Dr M said so..... Takkan Dr M mau tipu kan

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.malaymail....in-too1/1750183
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President umamy also got into UM through matrix

https://my.linkedin.com/in/tang-yi-ze-485462330

Backdoor also lah hor?
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And siap cry tertindas to MCA summore just because got rejected from sampah uni. Topkek.
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Good idea but cannot lah!
You have to maintain the illusion of "no racial quota", lah.
Just a totally unrelated coincidence that 90% of matriculation spots magically float to biumiputera — complete with one year time-saving express lane and all. Meanwhile, the rest can take the scenic two-year STPM route: longer, harder, and somehow still expected to compete in the same race.
But hey, it's all "merit-based", right? As long as you squint really hard, mix up your comparison metrics, and pretend Matrix, Asasi, and STPM are exactly the same thing, you can convince yourself it’s a level playing field. Like comparing durians, orange and apples — both are fruits, kan?
The system, of course, relies heavily on people not noticing this. Because if everyone suddenly decided, “Let’s all go STPM then!” — kaboom, the whole carefully calibrated illusion collapses faster than your CGPA in Form 6.
And yet, somehow, the national pastime remains: missing the point entirely while passionately arguing about everything except the actual issue. Bravo. Truly, we are a nation of master divers — not in the Olympics, but in deflecting hard truths.
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aspiring nons and their big dreams are expected to keep quiet and find alternatives since this is how things works in Malaysia. They'll be put in their place soon enough by those menggelupur en masse seeing their "rights" being molested.

When successful decades later elsewhere in the eyes of the world.... usually Malaysia media will pick up the news and our netizens also tumpang glamor.

The good thing is... successful Malaysians due to how their treatment before by our gomen, they learned humility / tactfulness . When interviewed by press local or foreign, . they seldom talked about Msia gomen fked up system that forced them earlier to leave to pursue their dream,. They probably talked about still loving this country and its food /people (another bait topic to get approval by readers).

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Later some from diploma miss the ranking will complain why consider stpm and matric above him and ask both of them to be abolish so ots fair
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Later some from diploma miss the ranking will complain why consider stpm and matric above him and ask both of them to be abolish so ots fair
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Actually the biggest complaint is not those open Universities but rather UiTM. They also want to join UiTM account course with only 4-5As in SPM rather than straight As. Average nons wants a fair competition against average Malays.
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If truly believes in meritocracy, abolish matriculation and have true fair competition. Dare or not?
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The smarter type M are sent oversea while next batch remains in Msia..
Seriously it is a non merit system, so call a crow black pls.. dont say it is rainbow.

While that is the case, there is no real fair world.. just have to accept it and move on...
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Sep 13 2025, 08:02 AM)
President umamy also got into UM through matrix

https://my.linkedin.com/in/tang-yi-ze-485462330

Backdoor also lah hor?
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Matriculation is backdoor regardless what race lol
It is what it is....... Stop being egoistic and look at the issue comprehensively
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Ok chatgpt
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Well written until u mistaken as chatgpt?
Nope, it written by James Chin, political professor
It written in a way directly showing elephant in room
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Matriculation is backdoor regardless what race lol
It is what it is....... Stop being egoistic and look at the issue comprehensively
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Suddenly can be so soft liao after giving you this info topkek. And I have said many times regarding this issue, “comprehensively” giving my take, and suggesting how to navigate/strategize going into public uni. And yet, you cannot see my meaning. Perhaps, you should learn what’s the true meaning of “egoistic” and take a look at the mirror.
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Later some from diploma miss the ranking will complain why consider stpm and matric above him and ask both of them to be abolish so ots fair
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U missed the point of standardized exam regardless pathway as the given proposal

If want various pathway, then specialized entrance exam like MRSM....
Ada berani?
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Sep 13 2025, 08:25 AM)
Actually the biggest complaint is not those open Universities but rather UiTM. They also want to join UiTM account course with only 4-5As in SPM rather than straight As. Average nons wants a fair competition against average Malays.
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Yes, UiTM time and time again saying they are following the constitution, but they fail to understand it’s more nuanced than what they believe.

https://www.thevibes.com/index.php/articles...tion-says-group

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 13 2025, 06:58 AM)
like I said lah, this kind of fella, if dont get what he want, will cry die die want it

now he got it. scholarship summore. wah already save so much mang.  cool2.gif
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sked hire this type of ppl

if he no syok, will play victim and viral you blame you this and that
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Well written until u mistaken as chatgpt?
Nope, it written by James Chin, political professor
It written in a way directly showing elephant in room
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So you copy pasted his opinion and then did not cite your source?

You are more pathetic than before lah Abel hahahaha
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Sep 13 2025, 09:03 AM)
Suddenly can be so soft liao after giving you this info topkek. And I have said many times regarding this issue, “comprehensively” giving my take, and suggesting how to navigate/strategize going into public uni. And yet, you cannot see my meaning. Perhaps, you should learn what’s the true meaning of “egoistic” and take a look at the mirror.
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I hv been saying matriculation is backdoor as proclaimed by Dr M.
But many triggered, then slander racist la

Worse you as tongkat addicted even ask other to follow addict to tongkat by pushing higher quota ....topkek

Can see how haywired ur thinking process is?
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Sep 13 2025, 09:08 AM)
So you copy pasted his opinion and then did not cite your source?

You are more pathetic than before lah Abel hahahaha
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Coz i want to see who being triggered by the hard truth

And gotcha, that is U!
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Coz i want to see who being triggered by the hard truth

And gotcha, that is U!
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ROFLMAO far from it

You just showed to us that “prof” used chatgpt to convey his thoughts la. Which is even more pathetic 😂

Btw matrix also have two years programme tongue.gif

So let’s discuss abit before I go for my morning swim. He is oversimplifying the numbers. Sure, 90% quota for matrix is there. And yet data show that STPM enrollment to IPTA is higher. In 2024 it’s 56% compared to 32% from matrix pathway. Out of those 56%, bumi is still the majority anyways.

Say if we abolish matrix, guess who will still dominate the number of people in STPM?

If the number of intake is majority from matrix, I also will be angry la. Meaning, I also agreed should either abolish matrix or increase the number of quota for nons to enter. Itu pun you failed to get my meaning.

Go fark yourself and next time cite your sources, so I can ridicule you and them.
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Sep 13 2025, 09:10 AM)
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I hv been saying matriculation is backdoor as proclaimed by Dr M.
But many triggered, then slander racist la

Worse you as tongkat addicted even ask other to follow addict to tongkat by pushing higher quota ....topkek

Can see how haywired ur thinking process is?
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Eh bodoh

I am pushing for higher quota for NONS to enter matrix

Deswai if you didn’t comprehend my meaning, can ask nicely instead of being an idiot ya Abel.

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if don want to send kids to sekolah kebangsatan and local unis...

parents study hard and work hard la... and dont membiak too much until you can't control quality of your own kids...


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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Sep 13 2025, 09:36 AM)
ROFLMAO far from it

You just showed to us that “prof” used chatgpt to convey his thoughts la. Which is even more pathetic 😂

Btw matrix also have two years programme tongue.gif

So let’s discuss abit before I go for my morning swim. He is oversimplifying the numbers. Sure, 90% quota for matrix is there. And yet data show that STPM enrollment to IPTA is higher. In 2024 it’s 56% compared to 32% from matrix pathway. Out of those 56%, bumi is still the majority anyways.

Say if we abolish matrix, guess who will still dominate the number of people in STPM?

If the number of intake is majority from matrix, I also will be angry la. Meaning, I also agreed should either abolish matrix or increase the number of quota for nons to enter. Itu pun you failed to get my meaning.

Go fark yourself and next time cite your sources, so I can ridicule you and them.
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Ur thinking process really got problem
U hv look the whole thing through lens of race .... Why cannot u put Malaysia and Malaysian first

Ur claim of STPM enrolment into IPTA is higher than matric
Buy hey, that is another way of hiding real truth

Come let me teach u basic math:

The IPTA enrolment success rate of a pathway need to divide by its denominator

Matric success rate is > 90%
STPM success rate is only > 70%

Let me know if u still not clear. I could enlighten u further since math is key part of my engineering background




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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Sep 13 2025, 09:38 AM)
Eh bodoh

I am pushing for higher quota for NONS to enter matrix

Deswai if you didn’t comprehend my meaning, can ask nicely instead of being an idiot ya Abel.
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U real dumb
That is exactly i m saying

Bumi been addicted to tongkat aka matriculation in this case. It is a backdoor.

But hey, u even ask non to follow being addicted by asking more tongkat!

The right move should push for real meritrocracy so that everyone can compete equally. Hopefully, over time bumi can be confident to take on the world in future


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QUOTE(soul78 @ Sep 13 2025, 09:42 AM)
if don want to send kids to sekolah kebangsatan and local unis...

parents study hard and work hard la... and dont membiak too much until you can't control quality of your own kids...
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Ini totally weird idea to solve issue on hand
People asking for meritrocracy and standardized entrance exam
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Sep 13 2025, 09:38 AM)
Eh bodoh

I am pushing for higher quota for NONS to enter matrix

Deswai if you didn’t comprehend my meaning, can ask nicely instead of being an idiot ya Abel.
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Actually no quota is needed.

If we check from here:
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2025...s-bayan-baru-mp
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He noted that 16% of matriculation students achieved a perfect CGPA of 4.0, but only 3.09% of STPM students did the same, based on parliamentary replies he had received from the Higher Education Ministry.
The real issue lies in STPM having disadvantage in score distribution, in both academic & koko marks.

This is also not racial issue to begin with, here are the things to consider.
- The amount of nons are low from % of population perspective.
- M40/T40 nons usually will send their kids to private college / university.

Bumi are actually the majority in both STPM & matriculation. I hate to say, but there will be surely bumi with STPM 4.0 got left out due to this unfair situation. wink.gif

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Sep 12 2025, 12:41 AM)
Your statistics not ngam la. You passed SPM level math or not?

Your assumption of 5k matrix students got 4.0 is pure bullshit. It’s more towards 3k. Itu pun belum campur kokum. You think every 4 pointer got 10 and managed to get top spots? Hahaha bangang

You kinda forget about engineering courses, matrix students also flock to that course whistling.gif so your bad statistics are not supported by what’s happening. Cukup la with this bad narrative. Makin lama makin tak cerdik ya.
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Actually no quota is needed.

If we check from here:
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2025...s-bayan-baru-mp

The real issue lies in STPM having disadvantage in score distribution, in both academic & koko marks.

This is also not racial issue to begin with, here are the things to consider.
- The amount of nons are low from % of population perspective.
- M40/T40 nons usually will send their kids to private college / university.

Bumi are actually the majority in both STPM & matriculation. I hate to say, but there will be surely bumi with STPM 4.0 got left out due to this unfair situation.  wink.gif
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Thanks for sharing the news. 16% of 40000 is about 6400 matriculation students with a 4.00 CGPA. That figure helps explain why Edward could only rank 1129 as it’s generally easier to achieve high scores in the matriculation programme as exams are marked by lecturers. Maxpudding’s claim that I “inflated” the numbers are totally inaccurate and biased.

It may also help explain why only 1–2% of STPM students gain admission into critical courses !
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If Matriculation is guaranteed to a first degree program and has quota for it, what made you think the entry to first degree is based on Meritocracy?
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There is no quota anymore

UM clarified all is merit

But now he say Matric is lower quality and easy to score

Seems the world top university say like Cambridge and Oxford and MIT say otherwise and accepting matric students like STPM


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Thanks for sharing the news. 16% of 40000 is about 6400 matriculation students with a 4.00 CGPA. That figure helps explain why Edward could only rank 1129 as it’s generally easier to achieve high scores in the matriculation programme as exams are marked by lecturers. Maxpudding’s claim that I “inflated” the numbers are totally inaccurate and biased.

It may also help explain why only 1–2% of STPM students gain admission into critical courses !
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All top uni like MIT, Harvard, Oxford and Cambridge accept matriculation and here you are saying matriculation is low quality

The claim ‘inflated’ is just due to number of Bumi population is high compared to dwindling nons that taking stpm
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U missed the point of standardized exam regardless pathway as the given proposal

If want various pathway, then specialized entrance exam like MRSM....
Ada berani?
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theres a different pathway to Degree.

STPM, Matric, Dip, etc2

its not want or not. thats the reality right now. just 1 idiot butthurt he didnt make the cut then whole nation kepo. ask UM to realese the one lepas which race the majority. Its chinese. why people just soo conveniently mums about this i dunno. ask any people in UM.

I sokong just one standard of leaning,just start it from kindergarden. then its fair for everyone right?
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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ Sep 13 2025, 11:45 AM)
theres a different pathway to Degree.

STPM, Matric, Dip, etc2

its not want or not. thats the reality right now. just 1 idiot butthurt he didnt make the cut then whole nation kepo. ask UM to realese the one lepas which race the majority. Its chinese. why people just soo conveniently mums about this i dunno. ask any people in UM.

I sokong just one standard of leaning,just start it from kindergarden. then its fair for everyone right?
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We can have multiple types of learning, but when evaluating the end result, all should be the same. icon_idea.gif Different student has different learning style, we are not teaching robots.

How hard is that to be like SPM? icon_idea.gif We have crazy amount school types but the goal is SPM.
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theres a different pathway to Degree.

STPM, Matric, Dip, etc2

its not want or not. thats the reality right now. just 1 idiot butthurt he didnt make the cut then whole nation kepo. ask UM to realese the one lepas which race the majority. Its chinese. why people just soo conveniently mums about this i dunno. ask any people in UM.

I sokong just one standard of leaning,just start it from kindergarden. then its fair for everyone right?
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So the meta question is which system is best to follow?
Let have standardized university exam and then trace back top performer education from kindergarten.
Then the best system can be identified
make sense right? Sokong?
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 13 2025, 06:58 AM)
like I said lah, this kind of fella, if dont get what he want, will cry die die want it

now he got it. scholarship summore. wah already save so much mang.  cool2.gif
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Haiya because that fella see no up the uni that is offering him full scholarship mah

He die die want that local sampah uni. Very gaya tau tell people you are studying or an alumni there, be it grad critical courses or not. Walk also ada angin. Amoi basah.


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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Sep 13 2025, 10:14 AM)
Actually no quota is needed.

If we check from here:
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2025...s-bayan-baru-mp

The real issue lies in STPM having disadvantage in score distribution, in both academic & koko marks.

This is also not racial issue to begin with, here are the things to consider.
- The amount of nons are low from % of population perspective.
- M40/T40 nons usually will send their kids to private college / university.

Bumi are actually the majority in both STPM & matriculation. I hate to say, but there will be surely bumi with STPM 4.0 got left out due to this unfair situation.  wink.gif
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Agreeddddd should not have quota

And yes got bumi left out also

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We can have multiple types of learning, but when evaluating the end result, all should be the same.  icon_idea.gif Different student has different learning style, we are not teaching robots.

How hard is that to be like SPM?  icon_idea.gif We have crazy amount school types but the goal is SPM.
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Are stpm and matric syllables the same?
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Are stpm and matric syllables the same?
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Different obviously.
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sked hire this type of ppl

if he no syok, will play victim and viral you blame you this and that
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QUOTE(shingo81 @ Sep 13 2025, 12:10 PM)
Haiya because that fella see no up the uni that is offering him full scholarship mah

He die die want that local sampah uni. Very gaya tau tell people you are studying or an alumni there, be it grad critical courses or not. Walk also ada angin. Amoi basah.
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if UM is local sampah uni, why he die die want to enter?  cool2.gif
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Because no money and have to resort to best uni in Malaysia with his result? What's so hard to understand?

Edit: nobody mentioned sampah, dont spin words

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Because no money and have to resort to best uni in Malaysia with his result? What's so hard to understand?
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what makes u think no need to pay anything if enter UM? cool2.gif
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Sep 13 2025, 12:10 PM)
Agreeddddd should not have quota

And yes got bumi left out also
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https://www.facebook.com/SimTzeTzin.MP/vide...74906479679506/

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Ini bukan isu perkauman kerana STPM Melayu 81.9%, Cina 10.4%, India 5.4%, lain-lain 2.3%.
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QUOTE(ah78 @ Sep 12 2025, 02:25 PM)
Umany: Mansuh matrikulasi, jadikan STPM piawaian tunggal masuk universiti

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Persatuan Belia Baru Universiti Malaya (Umany) hari ini menuntut supaya program matrikulasi dimansuhkan dan menjadikan silibus Sijil Tinggi Persekolahan Malaysia (STPM) sebagai piawaian tunggal kemasukan ke universiti awam (UA) bagi jurusan ijazah.

Presidennya, Tang Yi Ze berkata, ini kerana pihaknya mendapati silibus STPM terbukti lebih baik.


https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/754989

Previous UMANY member:
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tang yi ze the hypocrite

it is similar to those t1 who get scholarship while studying in uitm and then shouting and screaming asking to open uitm for all
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 12 2025, 03:53 PM)
if UM is local sampah uni, why he die die want to enter?  cool2.gif
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Eh you pekak is it?

Don't try to manipulate case.

He want accounting. He applied UM, UUM, UPM, etc all accounting but no fucking uni offer him accounting.

And got offered management.

His complain is not because he can't get into UM but because he can't get accounting.

You guys 国宝 don't cincai manipulate case make things go bengkok
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Sep 13 2025, 01:54 PM)
Different obviously.
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what makes u think no need to pay anything if enter UM?  cool2.gif
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Enough la. Still want to spin words.

Go compare public u and private u tuition fee, but i think you're just trolling.
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Sep 13 2025, 03:36 PM)
wait stpm also kena kuota, kesiannnn
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Want to cancel quota, Go full merit.

Later when got left out because population size is small , cry father mother where is my quota .
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QUOTE(susukambing @ Sep 13 2025, 04:33 PM)
Eh you pekak is it?

Don't try to manipulate case.

He want accounting. He applied UM, UUM, UPM, etc all accounting but no fucking uni offer him accounting.

And got offered management.

His complain is not because he can't get into UM but because he can't get accounting.

You guys 国宝 don't cincai manipulate case make things go bengkok
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entering UM = no free money

entering TAR UMT / UTAR = full scholarship



like u said, since local uni is sampah uni, why bother apply for it? singapore got better uni, taiwan also got better uni, go ask for it lah.

QUOTE(Snoopycute98 @ Sep 13 2025, 05:16 PM)
Enough la. Still want to spin words.

Go compare public u and private u tuition fee, but i think you're just trolling.
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since now MCA also offer scholarship=FREE MONEY, better what?

free money also he dont want, then what now?

He noted that Wong was also accepted into the same UM accountancy course through open intake, but that the fee of RM83,800 was nearly 10 times higher than the RM8,300 UPU-subsidised route.

I stand corrected. Like I said u still need to pay for your studies even if u enter UM.



https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...arship-says-wee

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 13 2025, 06:58 AM)
like I said lah, this kind of fella, if dont get what he want, will cry die die want it

now he got it. scholarship summore. wah already save so much mang.  cool2.gif
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Sep 13 2025, 08:03 AM)
At the end of the day, tongkat was given.
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The boy even look like Nobita.

Same crybaby character except for the intelligence where the boy is much smarter.

He cried to Wee Wee and Nobita cried to Doraemon when they don't have the things they want.


Wooo wooo ayam kena rejected from UM accountancy. Wooo woo cry.gif
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I was curious about the student diversity of University Malaya's accounting course, so I looked up last year's graduation roll.

As it turns out, the local students who graduated last year were approximately,
Malays: 35%
Chinese: 53%
Indians: 12%

This means that for this particular batch of students, when compared against the ethnic composition of Malaysia, the Chinese are actually 209% against our nation population the Indians are 159% , and the Malays are at 52%

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 14 2025, 07:43 AM)
I was curious about the student diversity of University Malaya's accounting course, so I looked up last year's graduation roll.

As it turns out, the local students who graduated last year were approximately,
Malays: 35%
Chinese: 53%
Indians: 12%

This means that for this particular batch of students, when compared against the ethnic composition of Malaysia, the Chinese are actually 209% against our nation population the Indians are 159% , and the Malays are at 52%

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Generally public unis take more bumis is understood due to past policies
But in this case the kid/president is a twat
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Matriculation and ASASI were tongkats created cos Malays cannot compete under STPM system. So now, the joke is Melayu sudah pandai, adoi. Pandai betui. Just look at the list of top students graduating in all universities lah.
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People are ignoring that there are few more columns in Meritrocracy table

Please add

1. Household income
2. Connection cable

Public U even though funded by taxpayer money. these universities are prioritized for lower income background that's why the fees are low due to subsidy.

If that Wong guy came from B40 family he'll be in UM already for sure.


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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 12 2025, 03:15 PM)
In the past, it was a quota system, and he wanted meritocracy. When it became meritocracy, Bumiputera numbers increased even more because they were strong.

Now he’s bringing up the STPM vs. Matriculation issue, claiming that Matric is another quota. He tries to exaggerate by giving an example of someone ranked 1129 in STPM who didn’t even take Math but wanna take account

He says Matric students are “dumb,” even though those entering Matric are among the selected top SPM students. To him, STPM is a higher caste and more powerful.

Now he wants to abolish Matric and make everyone take STPM.

Fast forward, even in STPM Bumiputera will dominate because of population numbers while the nons birth rate lower—just look at SPM results as the closest example where even with single exam the bumi dominate in high score
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this is the classic kind that getting tongkat but denying it say it is the result of their hardwork thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(superbike @ Sep 13 2025, 11:39 PM)
The boy even look like Nobita.

Same crybaby character except for the intelligence where the boy is much smarter.

He cried to Wee Wee and Nobita cried to Doraemon when they don't have the things they want.
Wooo wooo ayam kena rejected from UM accountancy. Wooo woo cry.gif
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He already got the course, but wants it cheap. Then go sound terpaling tertindas as if he didnt get it and got usm instead.
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 14 2025, 07:43 AM)
I was curious about the student diversity of University Malaya's accounting course, so I looked up last year's graduation roll.

As it turns out, the local students who graduated last year were approximately,
Malays: 35%
Chinese: 53%
Indians: 12%

This means that for this particular batch of students, when compared against the ethnic composition of Malaysia, the Chinese are actually 209% against our nation population the Indians are 159% , and the Malays are at 52%

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indeed

funny when some of the forummer said that this data can be manipulated when it doesnt suit their agenda
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QUOTE(superbike @ Sep 13 2025, 11:39 PM)
The boy even look like Nobita.

Same crybaby character except for the intelligence where the boy is much smarter.

He cried to Wee Wee and Nobita cried to Doraemon when they don't have the things they want.
Wooo wooo ayam kena rejected from UM accountancy. Wooo woo cry.gif
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Sep 14 2025, 10:28 AM)
He already got the course, but wants it cheap. Then go sound terpaling tertindas as if he didnt get it and got usm instead.
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I think what he really wants is a place in UM in accountancy + full scholarship all the way



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QUOTE(and85rew @ Sep 14 2025, 07:50 AM)
Generally public unis take more bumis is understood due to past policies
But in this case the kid/president is a twat
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this fella might be joining DAP / PKR in the future

surely he will be forgiven

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QUOTE(superbike @ Sep 13 2025, 11:39 PM)
The boy even look like Nobita.

Same crybaby character except for the intelligence where the boy is much smarter.

He cried to Wee Wee and Nobita cried to Doraemon when they don't have the things they want.
Wooo wooo ayam kena rejected from UM accountancy. Wooo woo cry.gif
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Tbh, this is the same pattern in Lowyat if you observe closely
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Tbh, this is the same pattern in Lowyat if you observe closely
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welcome back bro cool2.gif

for what reason u kana sus?
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I think what he really wants is a place in UM in accountancy + full scholarship all the way
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There other good public uni. Anyway degree is just a pasport to career. Most important are the professional certificate
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welcome back bro  cool2.gif

for what reason u kana sus?
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That type W mass reported my thread lol
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Sep 14 2025, 11:21 AM)
That type W mass reported my thread lol
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May those fella who mass lipoted you kana sus as well

anyway, welcome back bro. glad to see u again cool2.gif
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May those fella who mass lipoted you kana sus as well

anyway, welcome back bro. glad to see u again  cool2.gif
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Sep 14 2025, 10:28 AM)
He already got the course, but wants it cheap. Then go sound terpaling tertindas as if he didnt get it and got usm instead.
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Deswai I don’t understand all these whohaa. So many people did well in other uni also.

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 14 2025, 07:43 AM)
I was curious about the student diversity of University Malaya's accounting course, so I looked up last year's graduation roll.

As it turns out, the local students who graduated last year were approximately,
Malays: 35%
Chinese: 53%
Indians: 12%

This means that for this particular batch of students, when compared against the ethnic composition of Malaysia, the Chinese are actually 209% against our nation population the Indians are 159% , and the Malays are at 52%

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How many self-funded full and how many subsidized? This doesn't tell a complete story.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 14 2025, 11:16 AM)
I think what he really wants is a place in UM in accountancy + full scholarship all the way
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“When I entered Form Six, I had only one dream – to be accepted into UM’s Accounting programme. I poured in all my energy, time and effort, fighting through the most challenging syllabus in the country. I never gave up because I believed that if we gave our all, the results would come,” Wong said at a press conference at Wisma MCA on Monday (Sept 8).

Khoo G.S.(2025) Top STPM scorer denied UM Accounting course despite near-perfect results. The Star, 8 September 2025.

Seems like our local sampah uni(s) does have the pull factor after all eh
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QUOTE(shingo81 @ Sep 14 2025, 11:48 AM)
“When I entered Form Six, I had only one dream – to be accepted into UM’s Accounting programme. I poured in all my energy, time and effort, fighting through the most challenging syllabus in the country. I never gave up because I believed that if we gave our all, the results would come,” Wong said at a press conference at Wisma MCA on Monday (Sept 8).

Khoo G.S.(2025) Top STPM scorer denied UM Accounting course despite near-perfect results. The Star, 8 September 2025.

Seems like our local sampah uni(s) does have the pull factor after all eh
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Actually why so die2 must choose UM accounting programme, compares to 6 other Universities in Malaysia for Accounting and Finance

Universiti Putra Malaysia (UPM)
Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (UKM)
International Islamic University Malaysia (IIUM)
Universiti Utara Malaysia (UUM)
Universiti Teknologi Malaysia (UTM)
Universiti Sains Malaysia (USM)

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QUOTE(shingo81 @ Sep 14 2025, 11:48 AM)
“When I entered Form Six, I had only one dream – to be accepted into UM’s Accounting programme. I poured in all my energy, time and effort, fighting through the most challenging syllabus in the country. I never gave up because I believed that if we gave our all, the results would come,” Wong said at a press conference at Wisma MCA on Monday (Sept 8).

Khoo G.S.(2025) Top STPM scorer denied UM Accounting course despite near-perfect results. The Star, 8 September 2025.

Seems like our local sampah uni(s) does have the pull factor after all eh
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UM from a ranking perspective is no longer sampah university. Thats why he die die want to go in there.
I believe that UPU got this one right but I disagree with all the people saying that accounting require maths at the STPM level. Accounting math is basically plus, minus times and divide - don't need fancy financing calculations formulas.
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Sep 14 2025, 11:28 AM)
Deswai I don’t understand all these whohaa. So many people did well in other uni also.

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Yes. He got the course actually but still terpaling tertindas
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 12 2025, 08:15 AM)
In the past, it was a quota system, and he wanted meritocracy. When it became meritocracy, Bumiputera numbers increased even more because they were strong.
Sarawak is racial-blinded. Anyone can get it for free at the 4 Sarawak controlled universities for STEM courses. Mainly thanks to Najib, the best PM for Sarawak.

May be this is why so many Malayan DAP supporters been throwing insult at Sarawakian for voting for the Sarawak government. May be red eye syndrome.


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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 14 2025, 11:18 AM)
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this fella might be joining DAP / PKR in the future

surely he will be forgiven
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Or even mca
What a snake
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Sep 14 2025, 07:15 AM)
Or even mca
What a snake
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MCA has at least set up UTAR college etc for the benefit of all, including the nons, which DAP intended to harm by withholding funding.

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Yes. He got the course actually but still terpaling tertindas
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Or even mca
What a snake
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Sep 14 2025, 10:28 AM)
He already got the course, but wants it cheap. Then go sound terpaling tertindas as if he didnt get it and got usm instead.
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I think what he really wants is a place in UM in accountancy + full scholarship all the way
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Sep 14 2025, 11:18 AM)
Tbh, this is the same pattern in Lowyat if you observe closely
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Biasalah crybaby Nobita.

Wooo woooo cry.gif

Terus mengadu kat Doraemon (MCA) asking for his gadget (help) if things don't go his way.

Wooo wooo cry.gif
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QUOTE(superbike @ Sep 14 2025, 07:50 PM)
Biasalah crybaby Nobita.

Wooo woooo cry.gif

Terus mengadu kat Doraemon (MCA) asking for his gadget (help) if things don't go his way.

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Lol.. weak
JimbeamofNRT
post Sep 15 2025, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(superbike @ Sep 14 2025, 07:50 PM)
Biasalah crybaby Nobita.

Wooo woooo cry.gif

Terus mengadu kat Doraemon (MCA) asking for his gadget (help) if things don't go his way.

Wooo wooo cry.gif
*
reality will hit this chap hard when he joining the work force in several years time

especially when he join the big 4 cool2.gif mofo will be treated like a cow working till late night, working with no overtime pay or any compensation after hours, gonna get emotional burnout, and might joined /k/ soon , either as another dupe or terpaling tertindas fella cool2.gif

 

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