Cukurlah Malaysia masih aman, unlike Indonesian "savages".
Doctors grouse over why MPs get so much more money
Doctors grouse over why MPs get so much more money
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Sep 7 2025, 07:03 PM
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Cukurlah Malaysia masih aman, unlike Indonesian "savages".
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Sep 7 2025, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Sep 7 2025, 07:00 PM) you should join a comedy club... Then ask those “oppressed” doctors to be MP la. LolllHAHAHAHAHahaAHAHA you're talking about malaysia... not singapore. if singapore then i agree with you. any doctor can be an MP... but not any MP can be a doctor. in fact, so many MPs i duno if they even have the intelligence to be admitted into medical school.... full stop. |
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Sep 7 2025, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Sep 7 2025, 07:09 PM) then u so butthurt about dr asking for more pay.....why u never ask urself to be a doctor? i bet ur asian parents asked u to... but why couldnt u make it?u want the ability to make noise like them and to be heard..... but u dont have it..your job can easily be taken over by a tom dick or harry with any general degree. heck amybe even without a degree it is possible. then u ask doctors to shut up because you think they have no choice like you.basically... red eye.. jelly.. jealous.. whatever u wanna call it. this is the blunt truth. This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: Sep 7 2025, 07:15 PM |
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Sep 7 2025, 07:19 PM
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Next, hospital janitors and nurses ask why doctors earn so much BTW, doctors become politicians also tak boleh huat la.. According to some experienced people ![]() This post has been edited by Freshmeat21: Sep 7 2025, 07:25 PM max_cavalera liked this post
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Sep 7 2025, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Sep 7 2025, 07:11 PM) then u so butthurt about dr asking for more pay.....why u never ask urself to be a doctor? i bet ur asian parents asked u to... but why couldnt u make it? Ok so what can you do? Nothing. Lollllu want the ability to make noise like them and to be heard..... but u dont have it..your job can easily be taken over by a tom dick or harry with any general degree. heck amybe even without a degree it is possible. then u ask doctors to shut up because you think they have no choice like you.basically... red eye.. jelly.. jealous.. whatever u wanna call it. this is the blunt truth. |
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Sep 7 2025, 07:57 PM
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Sep 7 2025, 08:02 PM
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Sep 7 2025, 08:05 PM
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Sep 7 2025, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Sep 7 2025, 07:57 PM) And thus why we have these hartal doctors voicing out opinions. Are you even following the discussion? I got no problem demanding for higher salary. But once you start comparing with other profession to justify, then it’s too much. What’s funnier is comparing against an elected MP. Why not compare vs prime minister? 😂 |
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Sep 7 2025, 08:07 PM
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Sep 7 2025, 08:10 PM
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MPs are over paid here.
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Sep 7 2025, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Sep 7 2025, 08:06 PM) I got no problem demanding for higher salary. But once you start comparing with other profession to justify, then it’s too much. What’s funnier is comparing against an elected MP. Why not compare vs prime minister? 😂 lol know the context.youre the one who kept comparing doctors to other govt officials in the past.. bt the context here is, why MPs say cannot raise allowance or income of doctors, but yet they thesmelves got no problem taking a lot? |
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Sep 7 2025, 08:15 PM
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Also there should be a strict annual or periodical assessment of competency for doctors. Now all enjoy timebased promotions, even the useless ones yg kuat tiktok/diva. Tak perform, kick out or stop promotion.
Those yg perform, ok with faster promotion and higher salary. But not blanket promotion like current practise. |
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Sep 7 2025, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Sep 7 2025, 08:06 PM) I got no problem demanding for higher salary. But once you start comparing with other profession to justify, then it’s too much. What’s funnier is comparing against an elected MP. Why not compare vs prime minister? 😂 Relevant what?They are demanding from mps for their pay structure revision. Aren't the ministers responsible for that? Isn't it their job to address it? Since the mps are not doing their job, what for they got paid more than doctors? |
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Sep 7 2025, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Sep 7 2025, 08:10 PM) QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Sep 7 2025, 08:15 PM) lol know the context. U work with MP or see their schedule, you’ll know how packed and busy their life is. Especially the MPs in urban areas. Plus if they are ministers, even crazier. I personally feel their wages are ok with their on paper job scope. Whether they do their work or not is competency issue. youre the one who kept comparing doctors to other govt officials in the past.. bt the context here is, why MPs say cannot raise allowance or income of doctors, but yet they thesmelves got no problem taking a lot? In the end, no one is forcing you to be MP or doctor. If not happy, can leave. 👍🏼 |
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Sep 7 2025, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Sep 7 2025, 08:16 PM) Relevant what? Parity of wages across the gov schemes should be considered taking into account Gov fiscal position.They are demanding from mps for their pay structure revision. Aren't the ministers responsible for that? Isn't it their job to address it? Since the mps are not doing their job, what for they got paid more than doctors? |
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Sep 7 2025, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Sep 7 2025, 08:07 PM) So what’s the acceptable rate? Everyone keeps throwing ideas bout increasing wages but nobody seems to want to give a number. You kena faham my friend.... is MOH who said it, then u-turn, then kena question by Akmal, then u-turn again. April 24 — The Ministry of Health (MoH) has received approval to increase the On-Call Duty Allowance (Etap) for health workers and an announcement on the matter will be made later, said its minister Datuk Seri Dr Dzulkefly Ahmad. July 15, 2025 - Perkara ini disampaikan oleh Menteri Kesihatan, Datuk Seri Dr. Dzulkefly Ahmad yang mengumumkan kenaikan elaun on-call ini tidak dapat dilaksanakan buat masa sekarang walaupun ia telah diperuntukkan dalam Bajet 2025. 05-Sep-2025: Revised on-call allowances for doctors are expected to be implemented in 2026, according to health minister Dzulkefly Ahmad. 05-Sep-2025: Semakan kenaikan kadar Elaun 'On-Call' dibentang kepada Kabinet dalam masa terdekat - Dr Dzulkefly The 1 who taking MP salary and elaun need to do his works to give a fair number to medical staffs. Reference number: medical officers and specialists in Singapore are paid SG$480 (RM1,576) and SG$1,000 (RM3,283) respectively for one day’s work on a weekend. Even bagi RM480 pun sudah double the current number. |
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Sep 7 2025, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Sep 7 2025, 08:21 PM) Parity of wages across the gov schemes should be considered taking into account Gov fiscal position. Yet these doctors ain't gonna wait. Gomen should rationalise other non essential spendings, like pm or religious office. Even better, proper tax or healthcare billing restructure to adress this long term.QUOTE(deepan84 @ Sep 7 2025, 08:19 PM) U work with MP or see their schedule, you’ll know how packed and busy their life is. Especially the MPs in urban areas. Plus if they are ministers, even crazier. I personally feel their wages are ok with their on paper job scope. Whether they do their work or not is competency issue. That's also what the ministries should do. Help the ministers with the execution. I mean, if ministers cannot manage their ministry well to address a very obvious, longstanding issue, then maybe step down and let others do.In the end, no one is forcing you to be MP or doctor. If not happy, can leave. 👍🏼 And that is what many others do.They go private or overseas. I hope it wouldn't go so bad till our public healthcare collapse, leading to privatisation. We already have a bit of taste what a profit oriented private healthcare industry would cost rakyat. But of course we don't learn. Never bother to push mp and support these doctors. |
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Sep 7 2025, 08:31 PM
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Sep 7 2025, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Sep 7 2025, 08:19 PM) U work with MP or see their schedule, you’ll know how packed and busy their life is. Especially the MPs in urban areas. Plus if they are ministers, even crazier. I personally feel their wages are ok with their on paper job scope. Whether they do their work or not is competency issue. that's what doctors are doingIn the end, no one is forcing you to be MP or doctor. If not happy, can leave. 👍🏼 then the media and MOH kelam kabut when revealed singapore came to interview our doctors... doesnt look too good to the taxpayers and investors when the best and brightest are leaving... because some taxpayers and investors got brain, they know what happens when the healthcare is left with insufficient manpower.. it reflects a deeper issue unlike some people who think they will be forever be taken care of by rm1 healthcare... LMAO This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: Sep 7 2025, 09:18 PM |
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