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 Doctors grouse over why MPs get so much more money

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zerorating
post Sep 7 2025, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Sep 7 2025, 02:13 PM)
Because they are idealists that still have some sense of duty. They still wish for affordable, universal public healthcare. 
Tapi kesian, the ministry and department in charge of their livelihood are also bad at managing shit. Pushing people away from government postings.   
Then, instead of addressing the obvious root cause, they put up ridiculous regulations that further choke domestic privates. Pushing people away from own country.
Lepas tu pikachu face why brain drain.   
I'm wishing them the best but I lowkey wish we just go full privatisation because Malaysians memang bodo.
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yet, many doktor in their middle age working in KK, when they are more than capable to be self-employed instead.
so its not all that bad when it come to their management, must be pengaruh media social want luxury, want good life, so must demand2 non-stop.
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post Sep 7 2025, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Sep 7 2025, 01:36 PM)
so they just assume MP working less? wow.
also that renumeration will just drain fast if that MP/adun actually helps their constitution to provide quick help fund.

deiiii, you already get paid much more compare to other gomen scheme, why kenot bersyukur? you think only health ministry are the only one that need money meh?
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Is not assume. Is a fact most MP are working much less than doctors. Excluding some really hardworking MP. Puas mp for sure probably don't even work. Go parliament talk rubbish. Bring nothing to the table.

Syukur what? Not everything must syukur. Next time u have shitty doctor or need wait long time just to check up on you then tell me syukur.
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post Sep 7 2025, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Sep 7 2025, 02:10 PM)
we do, but only for the creme of the crop. but the doktor2 hartal ancam us like every doktor are headhunted to work oversea so they doing us a great favor by staying here.
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They are.

Here's an obvious symptoms of how dire is our public healthcare, the recent hikes in health insurance, hikes in private hospitalisation, means increase in demand.
Of course the industry is highly regulated so supply cannot meet demands so fast.
And please conveniently ignore how our neighbour are also poaching even our mo. Not just specialists. Belum lagi kira our nurses also getting poached as far as the middle east.

Just wait until the eventual collapse. Anecdotal but we already have like 1-2 resignations every few months at just in our department in our district hospital. Either to further specialisation elsewhere (out of own pocket so decades before they decided to come back and serve own country, if ever), poached overseas (not just as doctor but as other support position), go private (own clinic, family's, or others), or just resign (either giving up the career for marriage or open own business).

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post Sep 7 2025, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Sep 7 2025, 02:18 PM)
yet, many doktor in their middle age working in KK, when they are more than capable to be self-employed instead.
so its not all that bad when it come to their management, must be pengaruh media social want luxury, want good life, so must demand2 non-stop.
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And you're fine with them staying as mo instead of pursuing for masters and specialisations?

Are you one of the paper pushers in kkm? If yes, fuck you. Go back to clinical work and see for yourself how bad it is.

This post has been edited by cursetheroad01: Sep 7 2025, 02:29 PM
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post Sep 7 2025, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(mick84 @ Sep 7 2025, 01:44 PM)
KKM doctor work continuously 36 hours with siput allowance. Kasi respect sikit la. Boba tea part timer get hjgher than them.
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MP visit an area..asked to donate this and that
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post Sep 7 2025, 02:33 PM

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MP is responsible for more people
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post Sep 7 2025, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(haturaya @ Sep 7 2025, 01:30 PM)
Then be an MP. Can songlap like no tomorrow. No need to study so much.
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is not right to give them this sort answer la. we do need doctors more than MP unless u r 1 of them la.
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post Sep 7 2025, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Sep 7 2025, 02:02 PM)
if private can absorb everyone, doktor will have less tendency to open their own clinic, managing clinic is pain in the butt especially in place where the demand is low.
if these doktor2 hartal so good, they will have no problem to get hired by private or oversea,
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Cos not recognized by other countries?
Even Sg only takes Doc grads from UKM and UM.
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Sep 7 2025, 02:29 PM)
And you're fine with them staying as mo instead of pursuing for masters and specialisations?     

Are you one of the paper pushers in kkm? If yes, fuck you.
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as if most of them are interested to sambung belajar, in fact many of the old doctors dont even try to improve their knowledge. some time i went to clinic, i even suggest medication to use for myself which i got from webmd and doktor were just yeah2 lets prescribe those.

last time i went one of the doktor mata also didnt know that we have laser treatment to treat eye floaters doh.gif
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QUOTE(Sedih @ Sep 7 2025, 02:33 PM)
MP is responsible for more people
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Never was MP's KPI.
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post Sep 7 2025, 02:39 PM

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MP: oi, if hardwork = weatlth, donkey and banggla richest in the world.

#doneplotek
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post Sep 7 2025, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Sep 7 2025, 01:50 PM)
ask doctor akmal
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Akmal sudah sound. MoH kasi pusing dulu.

https://worldofbuzz.com/health-minister-den...aHO7Z6iEwXLwpVw
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post Sep 7 2025, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Sep 7 2025, 02:35 PM)
as if most of them are interested to sambung belajar, in fact many of the old doctors dont even try to improve their knowledge. some time i went to clinic, i even suggest medication to use for myself which i got from webmd and doktor were just yeah2 lets prescribe those.

last time i went one of the doktor mata also didnt know that we have laser treatment to treat eye floaters  doh.gif
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Ever wonder why they aren't interested in sambung belajar?
Hint: The journey is unnecessarily hard. Shit working hours as registrar. Shit pay also.
Then summore you see the shit it took for those parallel program specialists to get registered?

Mismanagement.

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post Sep 7 2025, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(kopiride @ Sep 7 2025, 02:25 PM)
Is not assume. Is a fact most MP are working much less than doctors. Excluding some really hardworking MP. Puas mp for sure probably don't even work. Go parliament talk rubbish. Bring nothing to the table.

Syukur what? Not everything must syukur. Next time u have shitty doctor or need wait long time just to check up on you then tell me syukur.
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even i met tons of shitty doktor also i syukur d la. laugh.gif
they are not miracle worker anyway.
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post Sep 7 2025, 02:44 PM

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U think MP of both divides cares for doctor?

If doctor goes strike, if some patient dies in hospital - then blame doctor for not perihatin.

If this issues persist - I really scare to get old... If saikt, really gg.
Already insurance premium expensive.

Look at the bright side... Going to heaven more important kan
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post Sep 7 2025, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Sep 7 2025, 02:42 PM)
Ever wonder why they aren't interested in sambung belajar?
Hint: The journey is unnecessarily hard. Shit working hours as registrar. Shit pay also.
Then summore you see the shit it took for those parallel program specialists to get registered?

Mismanagement.
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yeah, mismanagement from the doktors themselves. so its their own gangs that make the system bad. the senior member prefer to bully their junior so they can relax enjoy work-life balance.
meanwhile the place i work as a peasant discourage work terlebih masa, work in weekend, suruh habiskan cuti. if got work lebih masa, make sure to claim ot, somemore flexible work hour.

if we keep bising when gomen try to increase taxes and cut subsidy subtlely, then dont dream of better healthcare system.

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post Sep 7 2025, 02:53 PM

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Unionize je lah, takkan itu pun nak kena ajar, kata doctor semua bijak pandai
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Sep 7 2025, 02:52 PM)
yeah, mismanagement from the doktors themselves. so its their own gangs that make the system bad. the senior member prefer to bully their junior so they can relax enjoy work-life balance.
meanwhile the place i work as a peasant discourage work terlebih masa, work in weekend, suruh habiskan cuti. if got work lebih masa, make sure to claim ot, somemore flexible work hour.
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Untunglah, kerja mana?
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post Sep 7 2025, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Sep 7 2025, 02:54 PM)
Untunglah, kerja mana?
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angmoh kompeni sdn bhd.
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post Sep 7 2025, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Sep 7 2025, 02:53 PM)
Unionize je lah, takkan itu pun nak kena ajar, kata doctor semua bijak pandai
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doktors themselves not union enough.
who will have higher tendency kena kerja on public holiday, senior mo with family or junior houseman that are still single? the system is rotten and they are hopping taxpayers to fork out more money? sampai bila2 pon tak selesai masalah.

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