This agent si the tohsuikah why I fucking hate them now, before sale say atmost 6 months can kaotim move in, now almost a year already call lawyer they said administration stuffs changed so became much longer and mafan, also told them to tell agent call me, hkc agent never called back. Before sign snp he even said if he could bring the agreement to me for signing this tohsuikah hkc

This agent deserved a slap for over promising things but don't equate one to all. Maybe one day, you meet a good one.

Btw, no lawyer's allow outsider to handle signing snp outside their office. Even if it can be done, it will be by their staff for special clients.

I am agent here. Yes U can do so.

But kesianlah that agent spent money & effort to advertise that house and suddenly you just bypass his effort. Let's say if U wanted to get like 2% cheaper to bypass agent fees, can ask agent to help nego for you one ma.

My advertisement in property guru cost RM108/7 days.

If 2 months there also close to 900 not including yet other platform. Let him cari Makan also loh

Buyer should pay based on what he thinks is fair market price and not to knock off agent's commission from the seller.

If this approach is taken, the buyers will want to knock off lawyer's fee, stamp duty, valuation fee and even disbursement.

Seller oredi pay your fee, yet he has to deduct further to make your buyer happy ?

Think about it. Don't be so cheapskate to close the deal ! You are suppose to act in the interest of the seller who is paying your fee !!!!!!

I don't blame some forumers here looking down on you guys agent if this is what the industry is doing.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 10 2025, 12:49 PM

Honestly what ur part in the business deal that earn u 2%?

Lets say u sold a 2m semi D house in nice area. 40k for 2%. Like. What work did u actually do. Other than take key bring potential buyer look see. This kind of work worth 40k?

Your view is narrow seeing only when he closed the deal.

What happens prior and if unlucky didn't close the deal ? What if seller decides not to sell later ? Who pays for his advertisements, travelling, phone bill and time cost ?

I know some agent's spend few K a month on advertisements dealing with high-end property.

If selling 2m property can close within 6 months, consider very lucky. 1 year is considered normal. How many has 2 mil or eligible for that loan ? 🤔

I know I cannot afford.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 10 2025, 12:46 PM

Without an agent, definitely boleh. That's how my hubby and I bought current join with joint account.

But I would strongly urge to get the same lawyer, meaning buyer and seller uses the same lawyer, so that reduces the back and forth hassle, this is where having an agent comes handy, they take care that part of it as well.

If buyer or seller ask me to use his lawyer, I won't agree.

I don't mind if he ask my lawyer to handle 🤣

We never force owner to take our services. Afterall it's just an offer that we have the client, you take our clients you pay for the fees. Otherwise you are free to say "it's okay I can sell/rent my property myself".

We never force. But if you can find the client by your own. Do it yourself. And don't ever badmouth agents. Not all agents are crook. At least I know I ain't cunning type of agent. I seek for tenant, I offer to landlord.

You just be like my friend brother in law. Saying that don't need to look for agent service. Can rent himself. After 4 months unable to secure tenant, then ended up take up agent service and cry lost 4months +1 month agent fees.

You try la look for buyer yourself. You think so easy just post 1 advertisement and get the client directly? We a specialized in diverty clients and recommend them what else other option they could buy according to their demand.

I post property A for rent. But after filtering out the client, I think property B or C is much more recommended. So I drag this tenant to B or C landlord. Don't you think owner of B or C should pay me for that?

yeah its a tough situation, this is where agent becomes handy.

As for our house, we were lucky as the loan to be and the house owner was the same bank. We were comfortable to use the bank lawyer and complete the S&P

How much money can you save?
Agent fees 1-3% only. Paid by houseseller

SPA, MOT etc. have to pay to gov regardless.

if u direct contact house owner and say u and the lawyer will kautim 100%. he will happy to the moon, becoz no need to pay agent commission.
but if u tell house owner, he need to work / do stuff for the sale, he will diu you and ask u to fly kite.

yes, agreed cause they make anthills become mountains. hantu is them, god also is them.
becoz normal ppl duno how buy / sell house works

what hantu 2 lawyers? only 1 lawyer required, if the lawyer is competent.
if the lawyer asyik nak shortcut, tak mau buat homework go find information.
then of course mau ramai2 loyar buruk to complete the job.

Normally this happens in the same taman.

If the seller knows the buyer from the same taman, more likely he will be firm with the selling price with little room for negotiation.

Who else will approach seller directly if he is not desperate to own the property and also living in the same taman. Maybe now living with parents and wants to be near.

One of my friend paid the asking price for his neighbour house without nego after leaning he wants to sell. I say it worth it because when is sold to others, got money also cannot buy.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 10 2025, 02:14 PM

Back to my orinigal question. What is your job during all these scenario that u listed? worth 40k ?

I am just asking what is the job of agent during the transaction. Can feel a lot of emotions in ur reply but u are not actually answering the question.

What did u do that justify the 2% ?

I do engage agent for properties all. For me is the safety, never know who am i dealing with and i am sure not gonna meet some stranger in empty house/shoplot. But this safety for 2% is a bit too much IMHO which is why i am asking what else did u guys do other than connecting me to potential buyer. Those paperworks which again, IMHO, is the heavy lifting in transaction which is done by lawyers.What's your role during all this?

Yes it is easy to nego price with agent because the price is already marked up from selling price the owner set

You want to know, go be an agent and reply to your own question so the rest will know 😆

Btw, remunerations of estate agents are regulated by by-laws.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 10 2025, 04:35 PM

All product prices in the market are marked-up to allow for bargaining and ALL customers don't buy unless there is a 'bargain' 🤣

My agent was young and made a mistake of letting the owner meet me.

The owner himself privately contacted me and suggested to bypass the agent. (He's a Dato' Lawyer).

But in the end, kesian the agent and gave him some commission.

Unless you give him your hp number or a namecard, there is no way he can contact you.

If you really kesian the agent, you should do the right thing and know he earning an honest living.

But then, greeds overrides ethics when the seller gave few thousands discount on the selling price to bypass the agent. With your generosity, nett nett also lit bit gain but the agent know your ethics.

What goes around will come back to where it starts.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 10 2025, 05:09 PM

as buyer, better go through agent to safeguard your interest, if loan not approve at least u still can get back the 3% downpayment if u wrote the term in the booking form.

sales commission is paid by owner, normally they will mark up by higher selling price. unless u wanna deal directly with owner with cheaper price, maybe about RM10-20k lesser.

I remember my friend did as agent, the buyer go contact the owner directly via neighbour and kena scold, ask him where does he get his number and information and curse him, some owner might want their privacy and prefer not to be kacau.