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 After sell EV still owe bank lots of money

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yhtan
post Jun 18 2025, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jun 18 2025, 04:45 PM)
that's why.. so many sei sohais here grossly overestimated their smartass-ness, thinking they are somehow smarter than banks wor...

Can you imagine how cringe it is they had a "light bulb" moment and then they think wahh im damn smart i can earn more than the bank loans me !!!!!
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Damn fucking cringe.  puke.gif  puke.gif
It's thanks to these sei sohais banks and bank shareholders able to make YOY profit growth
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From month to month when u repay HP Loan, the amount is slowly reducing and no way the return can be higher.

Let say u take HP for the car for 100k, after repay RM5k monthly instalment
Month 1 owe bank - 95k
Month 2 owe bank - 90k

Slowly your cash is lower month by month

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post Jun 18 2025, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Oct 10 2023, 03:20 PM)
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Seems, the Rule Of 78 is still being applied by Malaysian banks for long term housing loans. .......

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/ruleof78.asp - Rule of 78: Definition, How Lenders Use It, and Calculation
By CAROLINE BANTON Updated March 06, 2021
Reviewed by THOMAS J. CATALANO

What Is the Rule of 78?

The Rule of 78 is a method used by some lenders to calculate interest charges on a loan. The Rule of 78 requires the borrower to pay a greater portion of interest in the earlier part of a loan cycle, which decreases the potential savings for the borrower in paying off their loan. ...

In 1992, the legislation made this type of financing illegal for loans in the United States with a duration of greater than 61 months. ....

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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=108293530 - Housing loan is scary


QUOTE((lurkingaround @ May 5 2024, 05:04 PM)
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Fyi, .......

https://loanstreet.com.my/learning-centre/h...-the-rule-of-78 - This Is How Banks Fooled  (or Scammed) You With the Rule of 78 - 24 May 2021
= eg when you pay down your bank home loan early, eg by using your EPF Acct 2.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=109676623 - Why so many K/ here said Buy House is bank Scam?


QUOTE(stevenlee @ Jun 18 2025, 11:38 AM)
Brb, asking my company accountant and auditor. Why ask me take loan and not paid full laugh.gif
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QUOTE(stevenlee @ Jun 18 2025, 12:29 PM)
Lucky hv money to pay cash tongue.gif
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My reposts above fyi, ie best to avoid refinancing or do partial settlement with cash for a car or house loan during the first few years of monthly repayment because most of the monthly repayment during the 1st few years are for interest payments, not for payment on the principal loan.
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post Jun 18 2025, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 18 2025, 04:59 PM)
From month to month when u repay HP Loan, the amount is slowly reducing and no way the return can be higher.

Let say u take HP for the car for 100k, after repay RM5k monthly instalment
Month 1 owe bank - 95k
Month 2 owe bank - 90k

Slowly your cash is lower month by month
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Coz they are confused about two different things.

1. Car loan works on EIR basis. So the 2.x% eventually ends up to 4-5% depending.
2. 100k in FD at 4% returns more - possibly but you must first have 100k in bank and keep it for 7 years.
3. If you keep 100k in bank, that means you don't have a car.
4. If you get a car and pay using that 100k, you won't have the entirety of the 100k to compound for 7 years, so the math at No. 3 no longer applies.

I'm not sure why they think somehow if you put 100k in bank account then they don't need to service the loan. And if you are not using the 100k to service the loan, why need to be concerned over the 100k in FD or not?

The only argument to make is that you have better cashflow which carries an opportunity cost if you use it to service the loan, maybe you can't pay your CC debt, you can't so starbucks or pump Ron97 etc.


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post Jun 18 2025, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jun 18 2025, 05:06 PM)
Coz they are confused about two different things.

1. Car loan works on EIR basis. So the 2.x% eventually ends up to 4-5% depending.
2. 100k in FD at 4% returns more - possibly but you must first have 100k in bank and keep it for 7 years.
3. If you keep 100k in bank, that means you don't have a car.
4. If you get a car and pay using that 100k, you won't have the entirety of the 100k to compound for 7 years, so the math at No. 3 no longer applies.

I'm not sure why they think somehow if you put 100k in bank account then they don't need to service the loan. And if you are not using the 100k to service the loan, why need to be concerned over the 100k in FD or not?

The only argument to make is that you have better cashflow which carries an opportunity cost if you use it to service the loan, maybe you can't pay your CC debt, you can't so starbucks or pump Ron97 etc.
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they argue that while keeping the 100k as FD and bought a car and taking 100k loan, they use their own monthly salary to pay for the loan installment, clever isn't it, got car, got FD, win win
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post Jun 18 2025, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Jun 15 2025, 02:58 PM)
only fools will take 9 year loan to buy EV car

shows the person does not understand the concept of EV car.

if can't afford EV car, should not buy.
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So ur saying that taking 9 year loan on an ICE car is fine then?
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post Jun 18 2025, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Jun 18 2025, 04:52 PM)
It's car market value drop faster the older it gets
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So who is this guy who thinks its wortth 30k after 5 year?

He can predict future ah? Why dont he preditc its 10k only?

So after 5 years the car still 50k he mah piak piak his own face?

Really amazed at how got so many “predicters” in malaysia. So good in predicting dont see him buy btc and be rich pun instead do so many sohai content for attention.

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post Jun 18 2025, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Jun 15 2025, 02:55 PM)
Whoever need more than 5 year HP to buy a car = cannot afford the car.

Plain & simple.
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Such a boomer way of saying things, syok sendiri

thats like saying anyone who takes more than 20 years home loan are losers and cannot afford the house.


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post Jun 18 2025, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(katijar @ Jun 18 2025, 03:47 PM)
u think the person still got money to pay the bank
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Banks have legal department with loads of staff.

No worries.

And if u've met some kakak or makcik who worked long enough at the repo department, they can be more samseng than thugs when needed.
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post Jun 18 2025, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Jun 18 2025, 08:51 PM)
Banks have legal department with loads of staff.

No worries.

And if u've met some kakak or makcik who worked long enough at the repo department, they can be more samseng than thugs when needed.
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post Jun 19 2025, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(beetch @ Jun 18 2025, 08:18 PM)
So who is this guy who thinks its wortth 30k after 5 year?

He can predict future ah? Why dont he preditc its 10k only?

So after 5 years the car still 50k he mah piak piak his own face?

Really amazed at how got so many “predicters” in malaysia. So good in predicting dont see him buy btc and be rich pun instead do so many sohai content for attention.

True storeyz
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Many EV owners here already reported no market value for their car so gotta use pakai buang mentality

Hence for that guy to report some market value is already giving face!
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post Jun 19 2025, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Jun 19 2025, 09:42 AM)
Many EV owners here already reported no market value for their car so gotta use pakai buang mentality

Hence for that guy to report some market value is already giving face!
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A few said .... sudah become many ...adui and after 9 years ICE or EV also almost zero liaw

This post has been edited by etan26: Jun 19 2025, 09:46 AM
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post Jun 19 2025, 09:50 AM

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aiya masa on tahun 0 no kecoh also bunga ma wah new car woh geng ah
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post Jun 19 2025, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Jun 15 2025, 03:02 PM)
More than 80% car buyers do tht
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Not 80% is 95%!!!!!
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post Jun 19 2025, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Jun 15 2025, 02:55 PM)
Whoever need a loan buy a car = cannot afford the car.

Plain & simple.
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post Jun 19 2025, 10:01 AM

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There are cheap cars in MY.. why must you stretch yourself to get a car with loan

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post Jun 19 2025, 10:06 AM

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people buy EV think to save petrol...

but they spend more on tayar

any modification to car rim, potential affect the total millage use...

worry more where to find charger...

low resell value... high insurance coverage ....

why wanna save petrol to hv so many negative???

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post Jun 19 2025, 10:16 AM

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Buy EV still see resale value?
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post Jun 19 2025, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(w19 @ Jun 19 2025, 09:52 AM)
Not 80% is 95%!!!!!
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More of telling him tht many gets loan more than 5yrs+
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post Jun 19 2025, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Jun 19 2025, 09:42 AM)
Many EV owners here already reported no market value for their car so gotta use pakai buang mentality

Hence for that guy to report some market value is already giving face!
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siapa cakap no market value, even Proton Emas 7 one year car selling at RM60-70k, i'm sure there will be buyer for it. Even left 10-20% of ori price pun ada market value.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 19 2025, 10:45 AM)
siapa cakap no market value, even Proton Emas 7 one year car selling at RM60-70k, i'm sure there will be buyer for it. Even left 10-20% of ori price pun ada market value.
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Used Tesla , Proton and Perodua EV surely got good demand

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