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stevenlee
post Jun 16 2025, 03:26 PM

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i read some comment, mention if a person cannot afford 5 years loan = cannot buy the car....

none of my car shorter than 9 years loan... if can i prefer to longer loan...

car loan interest are just 2.x% .. imagine you save in FD or EPF.. or flexi current account.. you earn more than paying back car...

that why , if loan lower than 6%, i will never go shorter... my flexi current account give me average 5~6% ... why should i go pay my loan faster???

the moment you buy car, it is depreciating... it not like house...

so your key is to lower the losses.... instead paying faster loan, keep the extra money in better return compare to your car loan...

unless you spend all without saving la doh.gif

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post Jun 16 2025, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Jun 16 2025, 03:38 PM)
If your interest rate is 2.8% on 100k amount with 9 years repayment, your EFFECTIVE interest rate is 5.15%. You need to find investment that earn more than 5.15%, guaranteed....like EPF savings

Always use EFFECTIVE interest rate to compare
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hmm... i not sure why need effective rate...

i alway compare annual.. since our loan is per annum x total loan x years

my current account interest rate is base on housing interest % ... i not able to find my bank rate.. but looking at maybank is 4.35% per annum .. still higher than 2.8%....

i remember this debate before and some bank still offer this type of account....

that why i rarely put in FD beside EPF and SSPN.. majority my money are in this flexi current account....
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post Jun 17 2025, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(viktorherald @ Jun 17 2025, 01:50 PM)
Effective rate is due to how the loan is structured, even though you reduce the outstanding, interest paid remain the same as opposed to mortgage where reduce outstanding = less interest charge on subsequent period

Banks do this as they can advertise with a smaller % number

It's like Telco, advertise xxxx Mbps paschal the b means bits

If convert to Bytes, the xxxx Mbps will to divide by 8
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i try to read and understand just now...

but the end, i still not understanding.. haha....

net net, i alway let my "Finance Controller" do the job...

what i do, all my money going to "FC" and my "FC" settle for me biggrin.gif

last time, most of time, 50% down payment and balance 9 years biggrin.gif



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post Jun 18 2025, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 18 2025, 07:58 AM)
"FC" is your wife? Never explain to u?
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yeah...

maybe she did calculation before....

i calculated back my last 3 year purchase car loan 2.1% (EIR 3.97%), my flexi premier account still hv slight 0.4% higher than EIR base on Maybank rate 4.35%

my banker told me before, as long as you maintain my money matching the total loan in my flexi premium, you basically enjoy 0% interest loan or saving or slightly higher....


just check my RHB premier give me 4.4% (but TnC)... I cant find UOB rate tongue.gif

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post Jun 18 2025, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jun 18 2025, 09:00 AM)
At same time 4% FD is also not TRUE INTEREST also, it will be more. Yr money will be more & more if u not take any interest yearly.
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i think we miss out one thing.

i think people keep say need to convert car loan to EIR...

but why we did not convert the FD rate to EIR rate?

both FD and car loan are calculate per annum...

if want to compare shoudnt both need convert to EIR..

basically FD is like we borrow to bank and with interest rate per annum... we need to convert to EIR as well if want to compare..

in that case, shouldnt FD rate still better???
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post Jun 18 2025, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 18 2025, 09:24 AM)
Truth is u can seldom get long term FD rate higher than loan interest.
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agree... but few option are long term.. like EPF...or Premier Current account...

Probably that the reason i did not learn about EIR as i being on Premier account since young...

hell... now i might start to look at EIR and compare
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post Jun 18 2025, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 18 2025, 09:34 AM)
Aiyoh, the EIR for 2.3% car loan of 5 years is 4.37%, how is it lower than  3% FD?

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what if now, i borrow 100k to bank with interest rate 3% per annum for 5 years?

using the same calculator.. what is the EIR confused.gif

should we compare like that ka since both also per annum term icon_question.gif
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post Jun 18 2025, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Jun 18 2025, 09:44 AM)
say u have 100k

instead of paying the 100k cash to buy a car, u decided to put in FD at 3% per annum (at 1 month tenure renewable for easy withdrawal if required)  and take a car loan of 100k at 5 years tenure at 2% per annum

total interest for 5 years for car loan is 10% or 10k

monthly installment = 1833, first year installment total = 22k

u need to takeout money from FD to pay for installment monthly, after 1 year FD left = 100k + 3k interest - 22k installment = 81k, in fact the figure will be even lesser because u pay installment monthly and u wont get the full 3k interest

after 2 year, FD left = 81k +2430 -22k = 61430
after 3 year, FD left = 61430 +1843 -22k = 41273
after 4 year, FD left = 41273 +1238 -22k = 20511
after 5 year, FD left = 20511 +615 -22k = -974

if u dont understand the above calculation, good luck for your financial planning
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i think some miss understanding here...
why do you want to take out from FD to pay loan???
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post Jun 18 2025, 10:20 AM

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i think everyone is miss understood each other...

today i hv salary RM4k i can pay loan without any down payment and without using any of my saving.

and yet i hv 100k in bank with interest rate 4.5% per annum enough to buy cash for the car....

so question is paid fully better or pay installment better with installment rate 2.8% per annum?



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post Jun 18 2025, 11:38 AM

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Brb, asking my company accountant and auditor. Why ask me take loan and not paid full laugh.gif
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post Jun 18 2025, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(haturaya @ Jun 18 2025, 11:52 AM)
Hehe, one should just buy that EV and enjoy while it last. Can recycle is at the end of its useable life.

If one keep calculating (buy cash / loan / FD, etc), then one might not even have enough money to begin with.  whistling.gif
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Lucky hv money to pay cash tongue.gif


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post Jun 19 2025, 10:06 AM

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people buy EV think to save petrol...

but they spend more on tayar

any modification to car rim, potential affect the total millage use...

worry more where to find charger...

low resell value... high insurance coverage ....

why wanna save petrol to hv so many negative???

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post Jun 19 2025, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(etan26 @ Jun 19 2025, 10:53 AM)
Some got Home Solar system, so it's almost Free fuel. Each month can save like RM300-400 petrol bill, satisfied you?
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you need to calculate the solar investment as well...

i own solar at home..... it take 5-6 years to return the investment... subject to no part dmg or roof leaking...

if occurs, further add more cost to installation...

still no free fuel.....
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post Jun 19 2025, 03:00 PM

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damm.. suddenly feel so funny with "miss the point"... laugh.gif ...
already 15 pages.... wahaha...

 

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