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ZeneticX
post Jun 14 2025, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 14 2025, 04:05 PM)
Hahahahaa, who is the one spinning now? I said pilot error

U said there is a system that prevents pilots from retracting flaps till certain altitude.

I said any system created by humans can be flawed and have issues hence the pilot could have MISTAKENLY RETRACTED THE FLAPS BYPASSING YOUR SO CALLED FLAWED SAFETY SYSTEM

THAT IS THE ERROR. THE PILOT PULLED ON THE WRONG LEVER

NOW U wanna pusing say where is my proof for pilot error

Sohai, the debate got nothing to do with proof for pilot error. Its your stupidity to think that every safety system is 100% working all the time.

Dont pusing anymore ya. Now is ur best time to backoff and save urself from more embarrassment
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I said any system created by humans can be flawed and have issues hence the pilot could have MISTAKENLY RETRACTED THE FLAPS BYPASSING YOUR SO CALLED FLAWED SAFETY SYSTEM


It's obvious you dont know the difference between software flaw and pilot error now. It's OK now this is another knowledge added to your limited capacity of it

Btw tmr father's day, please be grateful to him that he decided not to wear on that fateful day wink.gif


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post Jun 14 2025, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 14 2025, 04:01 PM)
Thanks for the info. The above joker thinks there is a doctor following every pilot up till the cockpit of the plane to make sure he doesnt drink before flights
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Mabuk pilots are often reported to the authorities by others, eg bc they reeked with the alcohol smell or walked unsteadily. ......


Ada paham ka bodo ?
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post Jun 14 2025, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 14 2025, 04:09 PM)
It's obvious you dont know the difference between software flaw and pilot error now. It's OK now this is another knowledge added to your limited capacity of it

Btw tmr father's day, please be grateful to him that he decided not to wear on that fateful day wink.gif
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You are arguing with kevin. Dont go to his level of bodohness
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post Jun 14 2025, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 14 2025, 04:01 PM)
Don't try to spin around anymore lah

You are the one who started with "highly likely pilot error"

Now where's your justification and proof for pilot error?

Do you know what is pilot error anot?
You think bypassing a safety system is as easy as pushing a button ke? You think this is your car can simply turn off safety system?
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Oh u finally realised your stupidity?

Pilot error - the pilot retracted the flaps instead of the gear lever. U understand this?

As i said, its not about switching off the safety system. Its the safety system which failed at the wrong time. The same thing thathappened to the 737-Max where the MCAS failed at the wrong time. The pilots didnt switch it on or off.
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post Jun 14 2025, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 14 2025, 04:09 PM)
It's obvious you dont know the difference between software flaw and pilot error now. It's OK now this is another knowledge added to your limited capacity of it

Btw tmr father's day, please be grateful to him that he decided not to wear on that fateful day wink.gif
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Ohmy, your english is so so bad that u dont even understand what u typed.

From the start i never said it was a software flaw. I said pilot error where the pilot retracted the flaps instead of gear.

Its you the bodo one who said that flaps cant be retracted till a certain altitude because of the 787 safety system.

Kesian, still dont want to admit ur dumbness and then want to pusing asking me for proof for “pilot error”

Its pilot error because if the pilot retracted the landing gear then none of this would have happened

This post has been edited by sexysarah1992: Jun 14 2025, 04:16 PM
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post Jun 14 2025, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Jun 14 2025, 04:10 PM)
Ada paham ka bodo ?
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By the time reported, the flight already took off d lah sohai
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post Jun 14 2025, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 14 2025, 04:14 PM)
By the time reported, the flight already took off d lah sohai
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Dei bodo, u think security and immi wont flag him ah ?
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post Jun 14 2025, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Jun 14 2025, 04:18 PM)
Dei bodo, u think security and immi wont flag him ah ?
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Hello dumb dumb, what makes u think he drinks alcohol before immi and security?

U think he cant drink alcohol in the cockpit?
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post Jun 14 2025, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(pobox @ Jun 13 2025, 12:17 PM)
What we have learned?

GET THE SEAT NEXT TO EMERGENCY EXIT!
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Wasn't the air canada or something where the emergency door came off whilst flying?
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 14 2025, 04:19 PM)
Hello dumb dumb, what makes u think he drinks alcohol before immi and security?

U think he cant drink alcohol in the cockpit?
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Eh, tell me. How do u think he can bring alcohol in the cockpit, u dimwitt ??

U think stewardess will bring it to him ??

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post Jun 14 2025, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Jun 14 2025, 04:29 PM)
Eh, tell me. How do u think he can bring alcohol in the cockpit, u dimwitt ??

U think stewardess will bring it to him ??
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So many ways lah dumb dumb. You think India is like Singapore is it?

Then tell me on the last incident where an Indian pilot was found to be drunk on duty, how did he get pass immi and security?

Its India la dude, anything is possible. Just shake the head 2 times and its all settled.

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post Jun 14 2025, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 14 2025, 04:46 PM)
So many ways lah dumb dumb. You think India is like Singapore is it?

Then tell me on the last incident where an Indian pilot was found to be drunk on duty, how did he get pass immi and security?

Its India la dude, anything is possible. Just shake the head 2 times and its all settled.
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Bodo, no one is allowed to serve captain and copilot any alcohol. Not only you are dumfuck, also a racist fuck. Stick to your iphone if you dono anything about aviation regulations
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Jun 14 2025, 04:01 PM)
deswai i prefer his version because it based on final report + his opinion instead of speculative noise right now.
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But final report will take a long time. 😁

And I watch many many episodes of air crash investigations, mentour, green dot to learn a bit...so I'm dying to know what went wrong like many...

But yea some peeps like they already know fo sure what happened lar like flaps not down when video tak nampak apa pun... 😆
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Jun 14 2025, 04:48 PM)
Bodo, no one is allowed to serve captain and copilot any alcohol. Not only you are dumfuck, also a racist fuck. Stick to your iphone if you dono anything about aviation regulations
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Of course on paper "no one is allowed to serve the captain alcohol"

You think in India they follow rules? U can bribe anyone to settle something for u . If u think corruption in Malaysia is bad, wait till you see the corruption in India, its 100x worse than here.

The pilot could have simply bought duty free alcohol and put it in his carry on bag.

U still have not answered me on how a Air India pilot ended up being drunk on duty and was subsequently sacked.
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post Jun 14 2025, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Jun 14 2025, 04:49 PM)
But final report will take a long time. 😁

And I watch many many episodes of air crash investigations, mentour, green dot to learn a bit...so I'm dying to know what went wrong like many...

But yea some peeps like they already know fo sure what happened lar like flaps not down when video tak nampak apa pun... 😆
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OTOH, the video got show the landing gears not retracted after liftoff / takeoff, which is not normal, and then the plane could not climb = crashed to the ground from about 600 feet. Why was the LG not retracted.? From this abnormality, we can already agak-agak the few causes of the plane crash. Also, there were reports of B787 safety incidents of the LG or flaps not retracting on departure.
....... Of course, only the final report by NTSB/FAA/Boeing/India will give the exact cause.

Sini /kopitiam kan.?
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post Jun 14 2025, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 14 2025, 05:00 PM)
Of course on paper "no one is allowed to serve the captain alcohol"

You think in India they follow rules? U can bribe anyone to settle something for u . If u think corruption in Malaysia is bad, wait till you see the corruption in India, its 100x worse than here.

The pilot could have simply bought duty free alcohol and put it in his carry on bag.

U still have not answered me on how a Air India pilot ended up being drunk on duty and was subsequently sacked.
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Dear bodo the kevin, that incident happened outside of india, it was in phuket.

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NEW DELHI: Air India has terminated services of a pilot who tested positive for alcohol consumption after operating an international flight back to India.


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Taking a tough stand, the Tata group airline is also working on filing an FIR against the captain who had operated a Phuket-Delhi flight last week and was subjected to a breathalyser (BA) test on arrival. Comments were sought from Air India on this issue and awaited till the time of going to press.


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The pilot was doing a training flight for a new captain. While pilots and cabin crew operating domestic flights have to undergo pre-flight BA tests (as no alcohol is available/served/sold on flights within India), post-flight tests are conducted on flight crew operating international flights (where alcohol is available.)



U know how stupid u look now ?

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post Jun 14 2025, 05:08 PM

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Crash site is crawling with civilians looking around and taking things

Even Somalia would have cordon off the crash site immediately

Do the rest of the deduction related to the crash yourself
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post Jun 14 2025, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Jun 14 2025, 04:49 PM)
But final report will take a long time. 😁

And I watch many many episodes of air crash investigations, mentour, green dot to learn a bit...so I'm dying to know what went wrong like many...

But yea some peeps like they already know fo sure what happened lar like flaps not down when video tak nampak apa pun... 😆
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well, good things takes time

at least we know that the final report has been thoroughly investigated.
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post Jun 14 2025, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Jun 14 2025, 05:07 PM)
Dear bodo  the kevin, that incident happened outside of india, it was in phuket.
U know how stupid u look now ?
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Dumb dumb, thailand is equally corrupt as India ya. Besides, the pilot could hv bought duty free alcohol and brought it on board

Phuket is also alcohol and party haven. Weird that u dont know this

Next time google harder

This post has been edited by sexysarah1992: Jun 14 2025, 05:23 PM
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post Jun 14 2025, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Jun 14 2025, 05:07 PM)
Dear bodo  the kevin, that incident happened outside of india, it was in phuket.
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The pilot was doing a training flight for a new captain. While pilots and cabin crew operating domestic flights have to undergo pre-flight BA tests (as no alcohol is available/served/sold on flights within India), post-flight tests are conducted on flight crew operating international flights (where alcohol is available.)

U know how stupid u look now ?
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Seems only the Indian CAA requires preflight or postflight BA tests on flight crews.
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