Does it sound like one of em Shaheed drones?

Ram air turbine deployed? Dual engine failure?

FDR recovered
CVR ongoing

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/india/ai...s-b2769288.html

But yea, investigators have the FDR so very soon we will know...flap settings, engine performance...etc...

Noob also how to make such mistake
It's not /k flying the plane 😆

But final report will take a long time. 😁

And I watch many many episodes of air crash investigations, mentour, green dot to learn a bit...so I'm dying to know what went wrong like many...

But yea some peeps like they already know fo sure what happened lar like flaps not down when video tak nampak apa pun... 😆

Unofficial / unverified...

Some sources saying last msg to ATC was a mayday call by Captain Sumeet Sabharwal.

If comms with ATC was being conducted by Captain Sumeet Sabharwal, then he was the pilot monitoring?
Isn't the pilot monitoring the one responsible for retracting the gear?

Once positive climb is attained, pilot monitoring would verbalize it, pilot flying would confirm and call for gear up.
Pilot monitoring would then carry out the gear retraction.

Seems unlikely for an experienced line training captain to make a noob mistake like retracting the flaps instead of the gear?













https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/india/ai...n-b2769518.html

I read the plane was only about 400+- feet in the air. The airport is about 200+- feet above sea level.

Anyway.

If. If, ada dual engine problem and the plane did not achieve or sustain a postive rate of climb.
Could it be the reason?


Also, the plane crashed 32s after takeoff.

I think the pilots were focused on the engines?
If engine tak hidup, raise gear also, plane will glide another X meters and still crash?



Ok, admittedly.

If he had glided double the distance, he could have reached the SabarMati River,
saved everyone and become India's Sully?




This post has been edited by countingcrows: Jun 14 2025, 11:47 PM

Sully landed in the Hudson River with enough fuel for a flight from NY to Charlotte and Seattle shortly after takeoff.

He was flying an A320. Smaller perhaps than a 787 but its no Cessna 😁

Interesting.

Can confirm the fwd tilting of the gear occurs on a real plane as it does on a flight simulator game 😆

I don't know. Why only this particular plane? Many other planes were refueled and flying without incident.


I wonder if the maintenance people made a mistake / did something to the plane in Ahmedabad after it flew in from Delhi.





I think we've all seen Akash's video where he complains about AC etc not working.
The 787 flew in from Delhi to Ahmedabad as AI-423 a couple of hours earlier
and was then scheduled as AI-171 from Ahmedabad to London.

https://nypost.com/2025/06/12/world-news/sh...ore-it-crashed/

This post has been edited by countingcrows: Jun 15 2025, 01:13 PM

One of the memory items for dual engine failure on 787...

Fuel Control Switches: Cutoff then Run




Plane crashed in 32 secs, who TF knows what they managed to do in that time without the report, CVR, FDR...





Smells like some quarters are trying to push the narrative and blame the the pilot(s).
Perhaps some giant of the industry will not survive another MAX debacle.

I hope the prelim report is released soon.

https://aaib.gov.in/What's%20New%20Asse...rt%20VT-ANB.pdf




Backup
https://www.mediafire.com/file/4n42kridvwhk...port_VT-ANB.pdf

This post has been edited by countingcrows: Jul 12 2025, 06:06 AM

It's interesting to see where the pilots hands are during a typical 787-8 flight when the fuel cutoff switches were alleged to have been moved in the Air India flight.



Perhaps, it is around 01:13 in the video.





In the video, it is the female Captain that is pilot flying but in the Air India flight, many are saying that it was the First Officer in the right seat that was the pilot flying.

Yes indeed, they take turns to fly.

Anyway, I finally found it in the prelim report. 😁

First Officer as pilot flying 787








Captain retains control of the throttle in case of takeoff rejection.

I think the Captain has ample opportunity to alter the fuel cutoff switch if it has to be either of the pilots.

Ranganathan also raised questions about mental health oversight in Indian aviation, citing reports from serving Air India pilots that one of the cockpit crew had a known medical condition and had been on extended medical leave prior to the crash.

Safety Information Bulletin - NM-18-33











https://ad.easa.europa.eu/ad/NM-18-33

UK Civil Aviation Authority
SN-2015/005: Fuel Shutoff Valve – Mandatory Actions on Boeing Aircraft













https://www.caa.co.uk/our-work/publications...tent/sn-2015005

This post has been edited by countingcrows: Jul 15 2025, 01:22 PM