QUOTE(Manuk1188 @ Jun 10 2025, 07:47 AM)
Do they even apply for it?USA Air Traffic Control on Windows 95
USA Air Traffic Control on Windows 95
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Jun 10 2025, 11:06 AM
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Jun 10 2025, 11:07 AM
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my factory machine using DOS 6.1. zamans98 liked this post
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Jun 10 2025, 11:07 AM
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Ayam like window xp. Nowadays window version sux. zamans98 liked this post
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Jun 10 2025, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 10 2025, 10:59 AM) Then it's IT fault if they can't convince Audit or Risk Management Because no such thing as zero issues when changing new system. Audit and Risk Management will only report their findings to Management/Board If IT can't give a convincing picture, no Management/Board will approve it At the end of the day the responsibility still falls to IT if something happens When changing up big systems, always there are issues that pop up. You just have to deal with it as you go along. But audit and management cannot accept this fact. They want zero issues. Zero downtime. That is why, the system never upgrade. US is like that. Someone comment here, Malaysia airport also like that. I know for a fact big banks are like that. |
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Jun 10 2025, 11:27 AM
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windows XP or Windows 11.
no much difference also. |
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Jun 10 2025, 11:27 AM
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If Putin can use win xp why not others?
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Jun 10 2025, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(vhs @ Jun 10 2025, 03:45 AM) Do you still run Windows 95? USA Air Traffic Control system does. Wonder where they find hardware when something breaks down since no one is making drivers for Windows 95 nowadays. why not run with ios 26? inb4 gimme contract I will VM all of them https://arstechnica.com/information-technol...ntrol-overhaul/ On Wednesday, acting FAA Administrator Chris Rocheleau told the House Appropriations Committee that the Federal Aviation Administration plans to replace its aging air traffic control systems, which still rely on floppy disks and Windows 95 computers, Tom's Hardware reports. The agency has issued a Request For Information to gather proposals from companies willing to tackle the massive infrastructure overhaul. "The whole idea is to replace the system. No more floppy disks or paper strips," Rocheleau said during the committee hearing. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy called the project "the most important infrastructure project that we've had in this country for decades," describing it as a bipartisan priority. Most air traffic control towers and facilities across the US currently operate with technology that seems frozen in the 20th century, although that isn't necessarily a bad thing—when it works. Some controllers currently use paper strips to track aircraft movements and transfer data between systems using floppy disks, while their computers run Microsoft's Windows 95 operating system, which launched in 1995. As Tom's Hardware notes, modernization of the system is broadly popular. Sheldon Jacobson, a University of Illinois professor who has studied risks in aviation, says that the system works remarkably well as is but that an upgrade is still critical, according to NPR. The aviation industry coalition Modern Skies has been pushing for ATC modernization and recently released an advertisement highlighting the outdated technology. While the vintage systems may have inadvertently protected air traffic control from widespread outages like the CrowdStrike incident that disrupted modern computer systems globally in 2024, agency officials say 51 of the FAA's 138 systems are unsustainable due to outdated functionality and a lack of spare parts. The FAA isn't alone in clinging to floppy disk technology. San Francisco's train control system still runs on DOS loaded from 5.25-inch floppy disks, with upgrades not expected until 2030 due to budget constraints. Japan has also struggled in recent years to modernize government record systems that use floppy disks. |
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Jun 10 2025, 11:39 AM
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wow, fucking DOS. no wonder train network in US is legacy tech.
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Jun 10 2025, 12:13 PM
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unable to ddos or hack a win95 that is stand alone PC. zamans98 liked this post
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Jun 10 2025, 12:22 PM
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Jun 10 2025, 12:23 PM
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Same like Japan govt, they were still running on floppy disk not long ago…
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Jun 10 2025, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(kons @ Jun 10 2025, 10:53 AM) its normal. Yeah man.... to my astonishment, msia fastest train back in early 2000s was using win3.1. So I asked the deutsch engineer why stay in the past? His answer was very american if it ain't broke don't fix/change it. some hotels/banks mission critical system still using win95. it is so deeply integrated which impossible to replace them without heavy cost. zamans98 liked this post
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Jun 10 2025, 02:43 PM
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Jimat duit
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Jun 10 2025, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Jun 9 2025, 06:22 PM) When I work part time in retail between my diploma and degree gap, the entire pos and accounting system use dos, the very same system when the shop opened in 1996. Same same.Once things start running, migrating is just not worth the rrisk. My takeaway all using the older POS version for conveniences, as well as to Songlap songlap sikit sikit here n there. The crux here wasn't really modernization, but the limitless possibility to what we already used to and been using so far. Upgrading it to smoother would be great, but changing it 180 degrees made things difficult. Imagine if change system liao the first thing the aviation met is bugged then pew pew Khalifa kena knock, CDG skids, KLIA kong, Jepang tower MIA, saupei lor... MH370 tertiba international version. zamans98 liked this post
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Jun 10 2025, 07:06 PM
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outdated close environment is the best for security
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Jun 10 2025, 10:16 AM) Malaysian Airport one - true. I was one of the core developers for KLIA TAMS in 1996. Once one iron out all the bugs, the system is solid rock. Doing it's intended function without fail. Nothing else. VM on VPS container or on disk? Windows Server 2019?Ther's some organisation resorted to moving this legacy system to virtual machine once the physical hardware gone kaput beyond repair. |
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Jun 11 2025, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 10 2025, 10:30 PM) Just plain. Recently went to ebay buying old quantum fireball to replace the broken hdd. Luckily still can get.The processor is using 80486DX2. Still strong after over 30 years. zamans98 liked this post
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