Able to sideload apk without any prompt , any biometrix verification only called Security issues man.


Security issues is like
Able Enter a condo without a security guard.
Able Enter a condo with a security guard but without needed to register just walk in as you like anytime.
Able Enter a condo with a security guard that request your ID to register , after this the security guard have to verify with the condo unit owner only u able to walk in.


Easy to understand man. Not that hard.

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Jul 24 2025, 12:16 PM

There is not necessarily a “physical” person to educate them, they can be alot of other links or dont know what sugarcoat websites they visiting can also educate them. They will never know by doing that will make their money disappear.

So by doing all these sorts of precautions just to achieve the same level of safety with IOS? May be u think it is worth. Well i am not going to debate further, you do you, chears

Why do I need a security guard when it is already gated and safe?

So debate til end , its stil user problem that u just can't accept the fact , actually it very hard for hacker to transfer out money for nowadays banking apps especially already updated to MAE , Secure2u , SecureSign and blah22 instead of old time day that using SMS , all i can say is , both bank & iOS Android was actually keep on improving over the time and make the process even more secure , some bank apps even directly CUT OFF if they detect some "RISKY" 3rd apps from your phone and force u to DELETE those apps before u can entering or continue to use the banking apps. Stil not secure enough u telling me?





if u talking about this maybe 6-7 year ago , yes included me will support or i actually like ur respon that will telling ppl android was unsecure. , but then i actually using both system iOS android and even the added China Rom phone into my routing , i know what i'm talking about and how the security run for now , and i can really say loudly that both OS actually secure wise , using at the right pace and u really worriless .

That is because u want to allow ur friend or your relative parent to come into your condo , so ur friend and parent have the access to enter your condo?

When there is some unknown ppl register at the security guard , then they have to verify with you before let the 3rd person to enter your unit right, u can either reject or accept , if u feel it's weird that someone unknown try to enter your unit , just reject the request from Security guard house and the security guard will just kick the 3rd person butt off , not that hard to understand right

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Jul 24 2025, 12:36 PM

So the point here is, why is it needed when it is not needed in the first place?
You do you man.

I'm amazed by how you can come up with so many examples that may be irrelevant.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Jul 24 2025, 01:02 PM

Because android was open source , the gate was open widely and it can be dangerous and they know too, that the reason why now they added security guard & two-step verification , it can be as secure as closed source. The final result stil the same , u wont be able to let unkonwn ppl to enter your unit that u dont want to.


I have two of my friend who work in u-mobile sales department , 1 of them only have iphone , but the company apps only have android version , he have to buy an android phone to install the company apk , since the APK was verify and made by umobile , so will u saying that the apps is SO risky that will make your bank money to gone anytime? no right , actually android security really improving alot over the time la , u guys punya mindset stil stuck at 2010 i really laugh die when someone stil taking security to defend iphone in 2025. Even eco-system pun other brand was starting to chase up.

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Jul 24 2025, 01:14 PM

you're the one laughable man
Sideload with prompt/ biometrix verification is call security measure, the risk still there.
while Apple eliminate the risk totally, this is what we call security safety.

Please understand what is security before you talk.
Btw you can defend all you want. Google or chatgpt aint hard anyway

Security measures and security safety are easily distinguishable, but we can't say the same for some people.

Since u say Apple eliminate the risk totally and so confident with their security right , then why do bank apps stil need to prompt up the "Approved" each time u do transaction in ur iphone ? Since it's SO SECURE , cant install 3rd party APK , why need extra step for it? Just like fruites say , "Why do I need a security guard when it is already gated and safe?" , since your iphone are so safe , actually those bank apps doesnt need 2nd verification?


It's call added "security wall" doesnt mean it's not secure or less secure , It's like apple added Double Press Power button before u can actually download or purchase the apps. So izit for isheep mind , this extra step actually call secure , but for android prompt secure before install isn't secure? At the end , both just done the job.


Then isheep will say "owh the double press power was actually to avoid user that accidently download the apps or purchase thru the app store" , so its different with android that prompt the risk and biometrix before u actually might accidently install something into your phone?

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Jul 24 2025, 02:01 PM

hahaha, that's why I said you're really laughing stock

Sideload app is one of the security risk, Apple eliminate the risk
Please answer is this safer than Android or no?

Now you're talking about App.
About the bank app, Approval from the app is a security measure to ensure you're the one doing the transaction. This apply to the app itself on both IOS/Android OS, even website, and it had nothing to do with the IOS/ Android OS security. Please don't mix both issue together.

Most of us here were using both OS phone, and we knew which is better in terms of security concern. If you still want to defend yourself regarding this issue, I think you better open a thread instead.

As this is a thread regarding IOS 26 update and changes.

I not defending , but to educate and not to mislead ppl with the security issues , i already say , if u can walk into a condo without a security guard then it will be risky , but since already added security guard plus two-step verification , it no longer actually risk. Yes most of us here might be using Android before , but how many of them actually using latest android ? Some even jump from maybe 6-7 year ago and stil using those old day "android mind" apply on today and dont what android actually doing now.

Im not bias on any OS but i actually just do some correction on the mislead part , security is no longer an issues i would say , Privacy and eco-system is the point u want to bring out to fight with android which they are stil doing not well on this field.


And for your information , sideload app isnt terrible if u know the source and who created it , Why apple eliminate ALL sideload app? For sure security is the main concert , but what actually they aim was make more money and profit , so Developer have to pay money to Apple just can let apple user to use and download the app.

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Jul 24 2025, 05:51 PM

Public beta is available now

Its really easy to say educate who and who, don't click link etc. Even fully able working minds require to go-through security reminders on annual basis in most MNCs/LLCs. Sometimes all it takes is a moment of judgement lapse or from a sharing of a trusted person to spoil it.

Wouldn't it be better if there's another layer that just disallows sideloading ? Its not fail proof but i think it does help for those that needs it - and i think those that need it are more than we think.

Saying as though its useless as a security feature, its just wrong.

I just want to say , old day android was really unsecure due to too easy to install and to let 3rd person to install the 3rd party apk , but after the android 13 , 14 and now 15 , they already make the thing more difficult , actually not that parent/eldest level can actually done , even u clicked to some link and it prompt to chrome , with unsucure web it will actually already prompt u the website isnt safe , and u have to agree something to process to the next step

U cant fully disallow sideload because some working company do actually have their own working apk , will u disallow your kid for not pak tor next time because scare of pregnancy before marry? That the reason why protection and education important to avoid this thing happen, that the reason too why parent wish school added sex education into their study , we cant disallow ur kid right weather want to pak tor or not but we can added knowledge to teach them how to protect themself.


iOS is like staying on jail , yes its super safe but u got no freedom
Old day android is like open underwear directly to let ppl see what ur color is

But with android 15 , its actually needed to register yourself with ur ID and DONE the two-step verification only u able to get the apk done , so they already give u actually 3 step of the WALL before u actually can pass thru all , if u stil want to hit the wall, then who to blame? User or the operating system? U tick and sign the agreement and verify with your own BIOMETRIX , but u blame on the OS but not user? Sound weird for me.


That the reason why nowadays scammer less focus on 3rd party apk scam anymore , its now more to direct scam such as this. That why i say isheep mind stil staying on 2010-2015



This is more horrible than installing scammer sideloaded. So will u education ur parent for not clicking such website? Because iphone user also will get scammed by those link.

That why self alert and scammer education is very important nowaday , when the day u step into INTERNET , there actually is no privacy or security because u can be attacking anytime without proper knowledge about how to prevent those tactic.

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Jul 26 2025, 08:22 AM

Im really shocked that u guys just like buying an iphone , think that its so secure , just throw to your parent to use without educate them how to prevent any scammer? That really sound crazy. Scammer hacker nowaday move to web more than apk already 🥲'


Imagine your parent went into supermarket and there some scammer promoter around there

"auntie , we have a promotion today , by register with us and u can get a 50% discount , what phone u u use? an android? ok just u need install our app apk then u able to get the QR for 50% discount"

"owh auntie , u using an iphone? no problem , we have a link that to give u for the registration and yet u stil able to get 50% discount QR code thru the website"

so u want to talk about security with me? both will fall into the trap without education knowledge , thank to son/daughters for making your parent TRUST the security so call "Closed system" iphone.




At the end , it's really stil back to the user behavior.

https://tileris.com/android-vs-iphone-security-2025/

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Jul 26 2025, 10:33 AM

So far so good, pretty stable too actually

So argumentative man u, learnt from ChatGPT or upbringing?

Because im open minded , not an isheep mind just couldnt accept the fact , on isheep world , anything or any phone that able to install 3rd party apk was rated as dangerous and unsecure, but they dont understand by default , the installation unknown sources was toggle off , and it needed user to toggle ON with some Risky warning prompt up , to tick and accept to by pass the whole security system. So at this point , the OS problem or the User problem? OS give u freedom to fit your need , install legit or work space 3rd party apk , if u are not interesting , just toggle off forever without needed to go thru the setting menu>security>install unknows source and toggle it on?




U know u give me a feeling that apple fan boys is kind of , if u born to be black , u are forever a bad guys, no matter in what , u stil a black forever 😔

yes i understand u might be having a nightmare with android b4 this same as i do, i also just f**k off with samsung because they give me light saber after 2 year of usage , but the world is spinning , the clock is turning , the thing keep moving and will be improving , dont take like decade thing stil apply on current situation, thing will keep on changing over time. If they are keep on improving, then we should praise and respect each other.

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Jul 27 2025, 05:52 PM