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 You just won the Jackpot but.., you carry Islam in your IC

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say_xtr
post Jun 6 2025, 02:55 PM

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contoh terbaik tak pikir panjang ni...
lepas pancut .. melekat .. baru pikir mcm mana nak get rid of it.
SUSseriosekitt3h
post Jun 6 2025, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Jun 6 2025, 02:49 PM)
bitcoin kan use for money laundering. Use bitcoin
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I want to use money for legal purchase of house, cars, groceries and whatnot.
Eventually, I need to put some cash in my account,
Large amount of money from Bitcoin will alert the authorities
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post Jun 6 2025, 02:56 PM

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anyone actually go to HQ and ask before bout tis ?......can a Muslim claim prize money?......are they obligated to lipot you to the authority?

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post Jun 6 2025, 02:57 PM

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You check the law see which one you'll kena, fined plus jail time or get fined only and also whether the winnings will get confiscated. If just get fined only then just go claim it yourself lor.
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post Jun 6 2025, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 6 2025, 02:49 PM)
If you favour a pension style payout over a long period of time and again requires someone to take a commission

You need a buddy with a company. Have him appoint yourself as a director or staff there. Draw a 20K or more salary but in actuality you are funelling him the money. Businessman no issue he can think of many ways to funnel in your cash as revenue. But for all the PCB and socso he has to pay he gonna take a big cut also
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Yeah, that was my plan
we both have companies in the same field,
we often hire each other for projects IRL

knwong
post Jun 6 2025, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ Jun 6 2025, 02:54 PM)
Why do I need a consultant to pay me money for my company?
Isn't it the other way around?
He pays me money to be his company's consultant?
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Yes you provide some sort of consultancy service to his company. One shot can invoice a lot
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post Jun 6 2025, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ Jun 6 2025, 02:56 PM)
I want to use money for legal purchase of house, cars, groceries and whatnot.
Eventually, I need to put some cash in my account,
Large amount of money from Bitcoin will alert the authorities
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Cannot fly bro. You just gotta start with your friend dulu.

Make sure trusted la. Build up from there. After a year, beli keter/house dulu. Then only after a year or two, get the other one missing etc. Xleh skaligus.
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post Jun 6 2025, 02:59 PM

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sell the tickets loh,

many buy for running tax
United Rulez
post Jun 6 2025, 03:00 PM

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Hello PDRM, LHDN, JAKIM
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post Jun 6 2025, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Pubgamesrhard @ Jun 6 2025, 02:53 PM)


2) Business Partnership (Real Work)-  Set up a small legit business. He invest the lottery funds. You become a partner or employee, gets a salary or profit-sharing.

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This but minus the real work kek

Open up biz. Pump in 5 million paid up capital. Transfer say 4.5 million shares (or whatever value they come to an agreement with) to him for free. TS just pays stamp duty?

Declare dividend and clear the mount in reserve. Pay the new dividend tax

Not sure what other hidden costs but still doable i guess

But yes again this is gaming the system and not the right way which you are suggesting


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post Jun 6 2025, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Jun 6 2025, 03:00 PM)
Hello PDRM, LHDN, JAKIM
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Plot twist TS works for MACC and is trying to identify the crimnals in /k kek
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post Jun 6 2025, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(Pubgamesrhard @ Jun 6 2025, 02:53 PM)
Just FYI.

Structuring fake employment is fraud. We hire each other IRL, both have companies in the same field. The most I've paid him is RM10k for a project
Using gold to disguise income is traceable. Fake loss/gambling claims don’t hold up. Opening a stall to ‘launder’ the money is illegal.

If you're serious and want a legally clean :

1) If you give him the winning ticket as a gift before it's redeemed, he become the legal winner. This is clean legally. he will claim it, pay taxes if any, and he can choose to “gift” you funds over time(monthly gifts). No contract required. Just goodwill and clean record-keeping. Tapi trusted ke? That is why I use a lawyer, to pen up agreement

Pro: Safe, simple, and keeps both parties out of trouble.
Con: You can’t legally demand anything from him later, unless a contract was made before the win is claimed.
-He then gift you money from his own income (not as a condition, but out of goodwill).

2) Business Partnership (Real Work)-  Set up a small legit business. He invest the lottery funds. You become a partner or employee, gets a salary or profit-sharing. This is a good one

Pro: Legitimate income, EPF, receipts.
Con: Requires real work or at least credible business activity. Lots of passive income business around like laundromat or vending machine

3) Family Loan Structure - Treat the money as a personal loan from him to you. Draft a simple loan agreement with a lawyer or commissioner for oaths. Monthly repayments or support can be labeled as “loan forgiveness.” Good one

4) Charitable Trust - If you are religious and doesn’t want to benefit personally, but also doesn’t want the money wasted: Set up a charitable trust (waqf) under his name or anonymously. Use the funds to help others while still honoring your win. Nope

Pro: Clean paper trail, no “hidden salary.”
Con: Still needs honesty and trust between both of you.
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post Jun 6 2025, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Jun 6 2025, 02:59 PM)
Yes you provide some sort of consultancy service to his company. One shot can invoice a lot
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I worked for him so many times IRL and vice versa.
My salary per project is 4-5 figures depending on how many days I come.
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post Jun 6 2025, 03:08 PM

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first of all,

i don't think there's any law stating you can't claim prize winnings if you're from certain religion. so in that case, if you have the ticket, feel free to claim the winnings.
big winning they won't publish names (so don't worry about the name muhammed etc. appearing in the media/news etc.), unless you subscribe to those small lucky draws via apps, like massat chair then they will publish partial details.


the 2nd question i guess you'll ask comes from the first point, which will be, proof of purchase. One might worry since you're not allowed to buy, therefore the concern of it being forfeited.

here, you can concoct -usually they won't ask, and if they do.. (I DO NOT RECOMMEND, BUT JUST FOR DISCUSSION SAKE) reasons like...
"one ahpek bang my motor, but he used his last RM100 to buy toto, so he give me the ticket instead of cash. Since it's minor damage, i accepted the compensation of tickets"


hope it helps. reduce the risky variable like asking any nons to redeem winnings for you.

please play responsibly, and consider doing some good deeds with the winnings.

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QUOTE(mi-g @ Jun 6 2025, 02:52 PM)
am not gonna lie, i always dream something like this lol

got few nons as my best friend, what i wanna do is pay them to buy number, if hit jackpot then split 50/50 lol, he claim the money and give half to me as a GIFT... haha wild dreams laugh.gif
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Actually if my friend wins (and yeah a malay dude who is willing to approach me to redeem would be a close friend) i just say you settle whatever income tax i attract and belanja me makan. You keep it. Its your luck, not mine

Most nons i know share the same principle. When ppl win in gambling its their prerogative to give you something, its not an entitlement. End of they day its not like we belanja them makan or spend on them when they lose right?

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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ Jun 6 2025, 03:06 PM)
I worked for him so many times IRL and vice versa.
My salary per project is 4-5 figures depending on how many days I come.
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No no, you don't work under your non-friend.
You have to setup a consultancy company and invoice him for non-existence work
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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ Jun 6 2025, 02:33 PM)
well, lottery win is now allowed?

He can just say he bought the ticket.
If they see no CCTV proof, worst come to worst,
then just say he paid me to buy the ticket because busy work.
So technically, he paid for it.

I mean, it is already taxed/will be taxed right?
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Lottery win in Malaysia is not taxed
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post Jun 6 2025, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 6 2025, 03:09 PM)
Actually if my friend wins (and yeah a malay dude who is willing to approach me to redeem would be a close friend) i just say you settle whatever income tax i attract and belanja me makan. You keep it. Its your luck, not mine

Most nons i know share the same principle. When ppl win in gambling its their prerogative to give you something, its not an entitlement. End of they day its not like we belanja them makan or spend on them when they lose right?
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we can claim 4D easily here, no question asked
but Jackpot is different level.

RM2200 VS RM 44,838,766.08
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post Jun 6 2025, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 6 2025, 03:09 PM)
Actually if my friend wins (and yeah a malay dude who is willing to approach me to redeem would be a close friend) i just say you settle whatever income tax i attract and belanja me makan. You keep it. Its your luck, not mine

Most nons i know share the same principle. When ppl win in gambling its their prerogative to give you something, its not an entitlement. End of they day its not like we belanja them makan or spend on them when they lose right?
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@seriosekitt3h

Like what this guy said. Nons with prinsip don't ask for much. As long as you know what's the minimum threshold is la.. Lanje makan etc.
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post Jun 6 2025, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Jun 6 2025, 03:10 PM)
No no, you don't work under your non-friend.
You have to setup a consultancy company and invoice him for non-existence work
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But got to be careful here

Big ticket payables and receivables any decent non shoplot auditor will vouch and check supporting docs

So the 5 million cannot be funneled one shot to the friends business. Over a period of time. And the invoices has to be spread out and not too big with some supporting paper work

Patience is the key

Serba kantoi because of what? Too big a sum to dubious ppl with little to no supporting docs



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