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post Jun 4 2025, 05:01 AM, updated 7 months ago

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It's a military operation milestone
without injured or killed single civilian

Things I've learned

1) Small cost leverage Big return
whole operation deploy around 150 drones
and hire some Russian truckers
should be less than 500k
but destroyed aircrafts worth Billions!!

2) You're clown.. they laugh at you
Focus and hustle
ignore the whine and negativity
dedicate all your time and 100% focus + effort + work smart
peoples are result oriented.. they measure you by outcome

Focus your end goal and deliver RESULTS
this will make those who laugh at you looks like a Loser

3) Don't stop learn new things!!
Make latest knowledge/tech your friend
dont stop curiosity to learn and gain knowledge

Your life stop when you stopped learn new things

Most pathetic tragedy is not you poor
it's you gave up HOPE and stop learning

4) Creativity
Think out of the box!!
gonna need tht to make use of the knowledge / tech on hand


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post Jun 4 2025, 06:06 AM

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A desperate man will sacrifice his people to do bidding of his masters.
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Zelensky is ukraine's Lisan Al-Gaib
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post Jun 4 2025, 07:42 AM

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Putin still got face left ke?

Lmaooo
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post Jun 4 2025, 08:05 AM

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I'm sure not only Russians, the world super powders are also looking into solution to overcome this.

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post Jun 4 2025, 08:07 AM

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So Zelensky use drone to beat aeroplane...owai
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QUOTE(azbro @ Jun 4 2025, 08:05 AM)
I'm sure not only Russians, the world super powders are also looking into solution to overcome this.
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Yeah the war been a cat and mouse game
They both copy each other technique of offense and defense

The most innovative one win
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I also like how the war lots more safer than what happen in Palestine. That one just a pure genocide
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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Jun 4 2025, 08:12 AM)
I also like how the war lots more safer than what happen in Palestine. That one just a pure genocide
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War is safer? Are you joking?

Thousands died.
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post Jun 4 2025, 08:24 AM

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Drone war more feasible vs tanks. Dulu dulu tanks 'serk blitzkrieg now mines and drones with firepower.
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i'm amazed people can "learn" all sorts of positivity/ life theories from everywhere, especially from well known people, even if they do stupid sheet.

he just taunted Putin on his nuclear bomber.
that could means Putin will retaliate (maybe not yet with nuclear) but the end could be nearer.
Russia has a dead man defense system, where sensors within Russia soil if detect nuclear blast and no instructions from central command, the system will automatically assume all central command has been wiped out and fires all nuclear warhead to whole world...
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post Jun 4 2025, 08:40 AM

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you know what is poking the bear

this, this is poking the bear

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post Jun 4 2025, 08:46 AM

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Est. 41 planes (inc. ones capable of carrying nukes), 7 bil in losses.. making him look like the biggest joke now. Chose to attack amidst reaching a peace deal, and now backfired trying to threaten with nukes.

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 4 2025, 08:40 AM)
you know what is poking the bear

this, this is poking the bear

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Russia has been bombing Ukraine nonstop lah, don’t be stupid. If every country just give up to invaders, we would have WWIII much sooner than u think.
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Turns out zelensky has a lot of cards.
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post Jun 4 2025, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 4 2025, 08:58 AM)
Russia has been bombing Ukraine nonstop lah, don’t be stupid. If every country just give up to invaders, we would have WWIII much sooner than u think.
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There are levels of escalation. If this hasn't crossed Putin's bottom line yet, I suspect this is very close to it. Is he going to nuke Kyiv? Probably not, hopefully not. But there will likely be some form of retaliation.
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post Jun 4 2025, 09:09 AM

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add another point.. Creativity
you need tht to make use of the knowledge /new tech on hand
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post Jun 4 2025, 09:09 AM

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quite impressive
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the DJ and his erotic novelist wife who mastermind the operation are going to die with heroin addiction soon. i wonder if they can run away from Russian agents..
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Really?

Macam dead cat bounce je
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post Jun 4 2025, 09:19 AM

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You know who here got loser mindset
I won't point finger

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Yeah people like to romanticized things. Poking the bear is really the right word. Just like Hamas Oct 7 attack and now look what have Gaza become...
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QUOTE(womanbearpig @ Jun 4 2025, 08:46 AM)
Est. 41 planes (inc. ones capable of carrying nukes), 7 bil in losses.. making him look like the biggest joke now. Chose to attack amidst reaching a peace deal, and now backfired trying to threaten with nukes.
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well, some said 12 or 13 oni with 2-3 are totaled and others can be repaired.
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Lucky the putin still waras, if not he unleash all nukes & ICBM for mutual destruction, then the world have nothing to celebrare dy
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QUOTE(K555 @ Jun 4 2025, 09:31 AM)
well, some said 12 or 13 oni with 2-3 are totaled and others can be repaired.
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12 to 13 are confirmed downed claims by rus source, prolly dare not admit further.

Acc to ukr..
Reports from Ukrainian sources, particularly the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU), claim that a recent drone attack deep inside Russia resulted in the destruction or damage of over 40 Russian planes. This operation, codenamed "Web" or "Spiderweb," allegedly targeted multiple military airfields, including Belaya, Olenya, Dyagilevo, Ivanovo, and Ukrainka. The types of aircraft reported to have been hit include Tu-95s, Tu-22Ms, and A-50s.
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post Jun 4 2025, 09:45 AM

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Attacked on airfield near the frontline mostly failed maybe because of heavy jammer is around , now they finally want to build hardened air shelter for their plane planning for 300 of them
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 4 2025, 09:08 AM)
There are levels of escalation. If this hasn't crossed Putin's bottom line yet, I suspect this is very close to it. Is he going to nuke Kyiv? Probably not, hopefully not. But there will likely be some form of retaliation.
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Their cities are everyday bombarded, what retaliation are u referring to? Stop spreading twisted logic.
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QUOTE(Rorschach85 @ Jun 4 2025, 09:35 AM)
Lucky the putin still waras, if not he unleash all nukes & ICBM for mutual destruction, then the world have nothing to celebrare dy
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But Pudding not sane enough to know invasion is big no no.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 4 2025, 09:46 AM)
Their cities are everyday bombarded, what retaliation are u referring to? Stop spreading twisted logic.
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Bombing cities, railway lines, roads, is still roughly at the same level as they were previously. Hitting at their nuclear strike capability is something else.

It is the same for any other nuclear power. Touching their ability to launch their nukes is a big no no to them.

If you are going to do that, you better make sure you have the capability to wipe them out completely. Ukraine is far from being able to do that.

There are some options that Putin has not touched yet. Including nukes and other modern weapons.
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QUOTE(Blackops981 @ Jun 4 2025, 08:42 AM)
Putin still got face left ke?

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 4 2025, 11:03 AM)
Bombing cities, railway lines, roads, is still roughly at the same level as they were previously. Hitting at their nuclear strike capability is something else.

It is the same for any other nuclear power. Touching their ability to launch their nukes is a big no no to them.

If you are going to do that, you better make sure you have the capability to wipe them out completely. Ukraine is far from being able to do that.

There are some options that Putin has not touched yet. Including nukes and other modern weapons.
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Zelensky also did not inform US and from some of the news I read, Trump administration is furious as bombing those planes crossed the line and it gives justification to Putin to use nukes. The bombers are all out in the open like that because its requirement of the START treaty between US and Russia and Ukraine just kacau Russia ability to launch nukes. Thats why some people in Trump administration are saying they should quickly pull out from NATO to avoid getting implicated. Zelensky just want everyone to be involve in his war as he is losing support and desperately need EU and US to continue support him.
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jun 4 2025, 10:09 AM)
add another point.. Creativity
you need tht to make use of the knowledge /new tech on hand
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Ukraine SBU intelligence unit pulled a Tom Cruise’s Ethan Hunt Mission Impossible level of achievement…

Really crazy
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 4 2025, 10:03 AM)
Bombing cities, railway lines, roads, is still roughly at the same level as they were previously. Hitting at their nuclear strike capability is something else.

It is the same for any other nuclear power. Touching their ability to launch their nukes is a big no no to them.

If you are going to do that, you better make sure you have the capability to wipe them out completely. Ukraine is far from being able to do that.

There are some options that Putin has not touched yet. Including nukes and other modern weapons.
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so far, no response yet.
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jun 4 2025, 05:01 AM)
It's a military operation milestone
without injured or killed single civilian

Things I've learned

1) Small cost leverage Big return
whole operation deploy around 150 drones
and hire some Russian truckers
should be less than 500k
but destroyed aircrafts worth Billions!!

2) You're clown.. they laugh at you
Focus and hustle
ignore the whine and negativity
dedicate all your time and 100% focus + effort + work smart
peoples are  result oriented.. they measure you by outcome

Focus your end goal and deliver RESULTS
this will make those who laugh at you looks like a Loser

3) Don't stop learn new things!!
Make latest knowledge/tech your friend
dont stop curiosity to learn and gain knowledge

Your life stop when you stopped learn new things

Most pathetic tragedy is not you poor
it's you gave up HOPE and stop learning

4) Creativity
Think out of the box!!
gonna need tht to make use of the knowledge / tech on hand
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Jun 4 2025, 10:31 AM)
so far, no response yet.
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Hopefully will not have further escalation. But Putin is not a soft man.
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its a good comeback when Orange told them they have no cards.

basically giving them a different "packaging" for surrender
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QUOTE(womanbearpig @ Jun 4 2025, 08:46 AM)
Est. 41 planes (inc. ones capable of carrying nukes), 7 bil in losses.. making him look like the biggest joke now. Chose to attack amidst reaching a peace deal, and now backfired trying to threaten with nukes.
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Ukraine Zalenski is stupid, he's escalating the situation to be more hostile. Putin already trying to cool down the war but this stupid comedian still wanted to escalate things further. He's safely hiding in secured place while his people suffering for the incoming retaliation from the putin army;.
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Jun 4 2025, 11:31 AM)
so far, no response yet.
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Russia no available plan to launch their cruise missles revenge?? ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 4 2025, 10:03 AM)
Bombing cities, railway lines, roads, is still roughly at the same level as they were previously. Hitting at their nuclear strike capability is something else.

It is the same for any other nuclear power. Touching their ability to launch their nukes is a big no no to them.

If you are going to do that, you better make sure you have the capability to wipe them out completely. Ukraine is far from being able to do that.

There are some options that Putin has not touched yet. Including nukes and other modern weapons.
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We shall see if pudding is the first fool to launch nuke after failed invasion. History shall remember him for what he was.

By your logic, PRC and NK should also be taking over neighboring countries with no resistance since they can launch nuke out of desperation. What a great new world rules you guys have envisioned. thumbsup.gif

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 4 2025, 11:00 AM)
We shall see if pudding is the first fool to launch nuke after failed invasion. History shall remember him for what he was.

By your logic, PRC and NK should also be take over neighbor in countries with no resistance since they can launch nuke out of desperation. What a great new world rules you guys have envisioned.  thumbsup.gif
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No la. Uncontrolled escalation is bad. I don't think Zelensky consulted any of his allies in the EU or the US about this. Nobody wants this war to escalate to that extent, but Ukraine did something very reckless here.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 4 2025, 11:06 AM)
No la. Uncontrolled escalation is bad. I don't think Zelensky consulted any of his allies in the EU or the US about this. Nobody wants this war to escalate to that extent, but Ukraine did something very reckless here.
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What is escalation? So in your reasonable world order, invaded country should just keep get bombarded daily with zero retaliation?
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QUOTE(womanbearpig @ Jun 4 2025, 09:38 AM)
12 to 13 are confirmed downed claims by rus source, prolly dare not admit further.

Acc to ukr..
Reports from Ukrainian sources, particularly the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU), claim that a recent drone attack deep inside Russia resulted in the destruction or damage of over 40 Russian planes. This operation, codenamed "Web" or "Spiderweb," allegedly targeted multiple military airfields, including Belaya, Olenya, Dyagilevo, Ivanovo, and Ukrainka. The types of aircraft reported to have been hit include Tu-95s, Tu-22Ms, and A-50s.
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yeah,. thats according to UKR and western media which reported 40 or 41 downed.
dunno lar...2 side of story.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 4 2025, 11:14 AM)
What is escalation? So in your reasonable world order, invaded country should just keep get bombarded daily with zero retaliation?
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Lol, the Ukrainians are not just sitting there being bombarded. That would be silly and a false narrative.

The problem is the nukes were untouched before this. Ukraine touched it first, not Putin.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 4 2025, 11:24 AM)
Lol, the Ukrainians are not just sitting there being bombarded. That would be silly and a false narrative.

The problem is the nukes were untouched before this. Ukraine touched it first, not Putin.
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How did Ukraine touched Russia’s nuke? LOL
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jun 4 2025, 05:01 AM)
It's a military operation milestone
without injured or killed single civilian

Things I've learned

1) Small cost leverage Big return
whole operation deploy around 150 drones
and hire some Russian truckers
should be less than 500k
but destroyed aircrafts worth Billions!!

2) You're clown.. they laugh at you
Focus and hustle
ignore the whine and negativity
dedicate all your time and 100% focus + effort + work smart
peoples are  result oriented.. they measure you by outcome

Focus your end goal and deliver RESULTS
this will make those who laugh at you looks like a Loser

3) Don't stop learn new things!!
Make latest knowledge/tech your friend
dont stop curiosity to learn and gain knowledge

Your life stop when you stopped learn new things

Most pathetic tragedy is not you poor
it's you gave up HOPE and stop learning

4) Creativity
Think out of the box!!
gonna need tht to make use of the knowledge / tech on hand
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now Zelensky has piss off Putin and escalate the war at higher level, a clown thinking by backstab with a pen knife can win the war, Zelensky move has given Putin excuses to even use tactical nuke on Ukraine. Same like the invasion of Kursk, end up Ukraine lost thousands of army just because of the clown president brilliant strategy.
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ngl, impressive indeed.
russia should have just used a real warhead when they ran down the dnipro with icbm.
too bad.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 4 2025, 11:14 AM)
What is escalation? So in your reasonable world order, invaded country should just keep get bombarded daily with zero retaliation?
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What he meant was focus the warzone on the east ukraine, no need to escalate by stabbing into other Russia area. Last year invasion of Kursk, now go bomb Russia plane. Putin still got nuclear weapon and tactical nuke on hand, if trigger him nanti he press button and bomb any Ukraine city as revenge.
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I learnt that while Russia has taken Ukraine territories away,

NATO and US can just respond with some guerilla warfare attack and only resort to drones attack.

And ktards rejoice to this kind of news. WTF indeed

Reality doesn't change that Ukraine is losing, and has lost
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 4 2025, 11:40 AM)
How did Ukraine touched Russia’s nuke? LOL
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The bombers hit include some of the Russian strategic bombers. Those are capable of delivering a nuclear payload. Operation Spider Web could be taken as an attack against Russia's capability to deliver a nuclear response.

This is an excellent excuse to deploy nuclear weapons if Putin wanted to. And remember, Ukraine is not under NATO or any other nuclear umbrella.

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 4 2025, 08:40 AM)
you know what is poking the bear

this, this is poking the bear

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even US dont want direct war with russia already speaks volume.

ukraine kichimiao play corner saja la
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Jun 4 2025, 12:13 PM)
even US dont want direct war with russia already speaks volume.

ukraine kichimiao play corner saja la
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It is clear when none of Ukraine's allies including BFF Emmanuelle spoke up to congratulate Zelensky on what is undeniably a remarkably successful operation.

This is something very reckless and can backfire very badly.
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their response was to bomb more civilians targets apparently but they been doing all three years long.

coincidence?

https://x.com/AlexandruC4/status/1929654211786035642


QUOTE(empyreal @ Jun 4 2025, 10:31 AM)
so far, no response yet.
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nope.
all those are bombers that constantly bomb Ukraine cities.

the real nuclear deterrence strategic bombers were spared and park nicely... the TU-160 which none of them were touch.

QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 4 2025, 12:03 PM)
The bombers hit include some of the Russian strategic bombers. Those are capable of delivering a nuclear payload. Operation Spider Web could be taken as an attack against Russia's capability to deliver a nuclear response.

This is an excellent excuse to deploy nuclear weapons if Putin wanted to. And remember, Ukraine is not under NATO or any other nuclear umbrella.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 4 2025, 11:48 AM)
What he meant was focus the warzone on the east ukraine, no need to escalate by stabbing into other Russia area. Last year invasion of Kursk, now go bomb Russia plane. Putin still got nuclear weapon and tactical nuke on hand, if trigger him nanti he press button and bomb any Ukraine city as revenge.
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Defence without dishing some pain back to invading country is unsustainable. Russian citizens feel very comfortable like ktards watching shows. It’s when war gets closer then only Russian civilians will start to get a taste of what their country has done to neighbour.
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Jun 4 2025, 12:13 PM)
even US dont want direct war with russia already speaks volume.

ukraine kichimiao play corner saja la
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Don’t talk silly logic. If Russia attacked US u think US will not attack back? I really worry if u were dropped on the head as a baby. console.gif
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jun 4 2025, 12:29 PM)
nope.
all those are bombers that constantly bomb Ukraine cities.

the real nuclear deterrence strategic bombers were spared and park nicely... the TU-160 which none of them were touch.
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Were those bombers nuclear capable? That could be taken as an attack against Russia's nuclear strike capability.

Edit: Russia has a nuclear doctrine. Meaning those are conditions that should be met before Putin can order a nuclear strike. It is not just suka hati Putin. This attack unfortunately just gave Putin the justification.

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So UKR winning the war already?
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the TU-160 Blackjack, which none were touch, has only one job... deliver nuclear weapons.
the ones that got bombs are the ones constantly being loaded with cruise missiles to bomb civilian targets.

i am sure if Ukraine wants to target russia nuclear capabilities would not be that hard considering it deploy trucks with drones outside russia military airfields.

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Satellite imagery and video footage of Sunday’s large-scale drone attack against airbases in Russia, specifically the strikes against Belaya Air Base in Russia’s Far East have truly shown what “message” Ukraine was attempting to send during the attack, with nearly all Tu-95MS and Tu-22M3 Long-Range Strategic Bombers, which have continually been used for missile strikes against cities in Ukraine since the invasion began in 2022, being totally destroyed, while Tu-160s appear to have not been targeted, likely because of their sparing used during the war in Ukraine.

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1929769380277018909


QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 4 2025, 12:38 PM)
Were those bombers nuclear capable? That could be taken as an attack against Russia's nuclear strike capability.
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Defence without dishing some pain back to invading country is unsustainable. Russian citizens feel very comfortable like ktards watching shows. It’s when war gets closer then only Russian civilians will start to get a taste of what their country has done to neighbour.
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u go bomb and kill Russia citizens even worse, trigger them jadi more hawkish and pressure Putin to use harsh weapon. Apparently the clown president didn't foresee this coming.

Becareful of what u wish for, Russia still has plenty of nuclear weapon in their arsenal.
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QUOTE(judas @ Jun 4 2025, 11:50 AM)
I learnt that while Russia has taken Ukraine territories away,

NATO and US can just respond with some guerilla warfare attack and only resort to drones attack.

And ktards rejoice to this kind of news. WTF indeed

Reality doesn't change that Ukraine is losing, and has lost
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Why u gave credit to NATO and US when it’s Ukraine that successfully pull off such clean and precise move?

The Ukraine move and previous embarrassment to Pudding when their own militia marched right into Russia capital without much resistance shown the world that Russia is paper tiger and overrated.


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the nuclear will affect whole world in every aspect... who like to see it happened is the lowest dumbest person in a whole wide world....
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apparently according to some people,
it is perfectly normal to invade and if you can't win the war, the use of nuclear weapon is perfectly normal too.
if the one you invading if fighting back and hits you hard, it is perfectly normal to use nuclear weapon too...

what a world biggrin.gif

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Don’t talk silly logic. If Russia attacked US u think US will not attack back? I really worry if u were dropped on the head as a baby.  console.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 4 2025, 12:42 PM)
u go bomb and kill Russia citizens even worse, trigger them jadi more hawkish and pressure Putin to use harsh weapon. Apparently the clown president didn't foresee this coming.

Becareful of what u wish for, Russia still has plenty of nuclear weapon in their arsenal.
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What rubbish rebuttal, Ukraine targeted Russia military within Russia, in contrast to Russia bombing Ukraine civilian facilities.

Ukraine striking Russia military facilities within Russia will let the Russians feel the war more relevant than like ktards munching popcorns cheering Pudding.
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QUOTE(soulknight @ Jun 4 2025, 11:49 AM)
Ukraine Zalenski is stupid, he's escalating the situation to be more hostile. Putin already trying to cool down the war but this stupid comedian still wanted to escalate things further. He's safely hiding in secured place while his people suffering for the incoming retaliation from the putin army;.
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Did you eat Russian cocks for sustenance? Ass-wipe like you can't even read what happened? Timing is everything just saying.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-ukrain...talks-1.7549401
On the eve of Istanbul peace talk, Russki send 427 drones to weaken Ukraine position to negotiate. Zelensky reverse Uno it with Operation Spiderweb. Russian officers at the peace talk like they are attending funeral because they know got butt fucked by Ukraine.

Today Crimea bridge got fucked. Putin went radio silent.

How's that for a bear who can't even win a 3 days war?


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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jun 4 2025, 12:46 PM)
apparently according to some people,
it is perfectly normal to invade and if you can't win the war, the use of nuclear weapon is perfectly normal too.
if the one you invading if fighting back and hits you hard, it is perfectly normal to use nuclear weapon too...

what a world  biggrin.gif
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All those crazy retards never even realise the hypocrisy in their own twisted logic.
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jun 4 2025, 12:42 PM)
the TU-160 Blackjack, which none were touch, has only one job... deliver nuclear weapons.
the ones that got bombs are the ones constantly being loaded with cruise missiles to bomb civilian targets.

i am sure if Ukraine wants to target russia nuclear capabilities would not be that hard considering it deploy trucks with drones outside russia military airfields.

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Satellite imagery and video footage of Sunday’s large-scale drone attack against airbases in Russia, specifically the strikes against Belaya Air Base in Russia’s Far East have truly shown what “message” Ukraine was attempting to send during the attack, with nearly all Tu-95MS and Tu-22M3 Long-Range Strategic Bombers, which have continually been used for missile strikes against cities in Ukraine since the invasion began in 2022, being totally destroyed, while Tu-160s appear to have not been targeted, likely because of their sparing used during the war in Ukraine.

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1929769380277018909

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The excuse is enough. This isn't a child's game where you worry about who is right and who is wrong. At this stage it is all about the benefits and drawbacks that each action will bring.

Think about it this way. Is the war, sanctions, disruptions good for Russia? What would be the fastest way to win the war?

Now think about the negative effects or drawbacks of each possible move. Now after Ukraine's attacks, how many of those moves are now more plausible or would bring less negative effects?
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Let's us focus on 'smaller' incidents: destroyed of airplanes and bridge kena bxmbed

Let's us ignore the bigger pic: Polar bears are advancing.

Depend which side and story u want to focus. rclxms.gif

AMDK keep repeating Polar bear failed to take Kyiv on the first 3 days. whistling.gif

Now, one country 20% land gone icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 4 2025, 12:47 PM)
What rubbish rebuttal, Ukraine targeted Russia military within Russia, in contrast to Russia bombing Ukraine civilian facilities.

Ukraine striking Russia military facilities within Russia will let the Russians feel the war more relevant than like ktards munching popcorns cheering Pudding.
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Japan target pearl harbor end up kena two big atomic bomb
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Don’t talk silly logic. If Russia attacked US u think US will not attack back? I really worry if u were dropped on the head as a baby.  console.gif
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The only thing that ever dropped was your brain when your mother dropped it when you left her womb.

lul dont quote me la, im not typical k-idiot like you. tons of information already posted in forum, u bunch of idiots still harping on same 1 liner from few years ago.

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Japan target pearl harbor end up kena two big atomic bomb
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How is that even relevant comparison?

Japan launched a surprise attack on US as a way to declare war on US. Ukraine attacked Russia after being invaded by Russia.

You guys consistent poor reasoning/comparison really baffled me, is this forum for adults or 3yo?
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The only thing that ever dropped was your brain when your mother dropped it when you left her womb.

lul dont quote me la, im not typical k-idiot like you. tons of information already posted in forum, u bunch of idiots still harping on same 1 liner from few years ago.

topkek
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Their DIY drone really turn the tide, like few hundred dollars equipment can destroy a hundred to million dollar war machine. The worse is when they start killing Russian soldier with drones, you can feel their fear. No escape, you can shoot down the drone but you better be 100% accurate because that drone carrying explosive enough to blew up a freaking tank.


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Quite interesting the way the done it, revolutionized modern warfare, no more guns and tanks, just drone, missiles, & radar jammer

Drone is so small you can technically infiltrate deep into enemy territory with ease

One day terrorist will adapt to these technology, the world will be a nightmare, no more suicide bomber, just drone do the jobs

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means Ukrainian also not very interested on peace. Let the war continue and everyone burn.
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QUOTE(70U63 @ Jun 4 2025, 12:57 PM)
Let's us focus on 'smaller' incidents: destroyed of airplanes and bridge kena bxmbed

Let's us ignore the bigger pic: Polar bears are advancing.

Depend which side and story u want to focus.  rclxms.gif 

AMDK keep repeating Polar bear failed to take Kyiv on the first 3 days.  whistling.gif

Now, one country 20% land gone  icon_idea.gif
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Let's put it in a different perspective - the us (and the ussr before it) invaded afghanistan, took over the government, took over most of tge country, but still faced decades of insurgencies and had to leave.

After more than three years of invading ukraine, russia hasn't even gotten to the 'take over whole country and face mass insurgency' part yet. It's a mess.

What's happening now is much more than putin initially expected. It's like the us invading afghanistan, then losing hundreds of thousands of confirmed casualties, thousands of confirmed tanks, have Blackwater revolt and start attacking the us army, then now have its fleet of B52s partly destroyed. Any us president would've been kicked out faster than nixon.
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don't forget to add, it lost a few of its previous warships as well...
but then again afghanistan is land lock.

QUOTE(empyreal @ Jun 4 2025, 02:01 PM)
Let's put it in a different perspective - the us (and the ussr before it) invaded afghanistan, took over the government, took over most of tge country, but still faced decades of insurgencies and had to leave.

After more than three years of invading ukraine, russia hasn't even gotten to the 'take over whole country and face mass insurgency' part yet. It's a mess.

What's happening now is much more than putin initially expected. It's like the us invading afghanistan, then losing hundreds of thousands of confirmed casualties, thousands of confirmed tanks, have Blackwater revolt and start attacking the us army, then now have its fleet of B52s partly destroyed. Any us president would've been kicked out faster than nixon.
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Gais, have yall prepared your will or not?

Putin cannot help but continue the war, becos he cannot back out any more.

Ukraine will never surrender and it is backed by NATO.

End result is?
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Ukraine Zalenski is stupid, he's escalating the situation to be more hostile. Putin already trying to cool down the war but this stupid comedian still wanted to escalate things further. He's safely hiding in secured place while his people suffering for the incoming retaliation from the putin army;.
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Funny how you don't even know what's happening, putin was the one who continued bombardment and attack amidst reaching a peace deal which escalated the situation showing no sincerity and signs of reaching peace and demanding greedily for ukr to give up soil that rus didn't and fail to even conquer. And now when everything backfired, threatening to use nuke again like a kid.

And FYI not even a single civilian was harmed during this atk where they took out so much from rus' arsenal. That's how well planned this atk is strategically unlike putin's killing of innocents and also his own frontline soldiers when they retreat in fear.

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Jun 4 2025, 02:53 PM)
Gais, have yall prepared your will or not?

Putin cannot help but continue the war, becos he cannot back out any more.

Ukraine will never surrender and it is backed by NATO.

End result is?
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Agent Krasnov: hue hue hue

Trump: Putin says Russia will ‘have to’ respond to Ukraine attacks
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-...cks/ar-AA1G5YSH
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 5 2025, 08:40 AM)
Agent Krasnov: hue hue hue

Trump: Putin says Russia will ‘have to’ respond to Ukraine attacks
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-...cks/ar-AA1G5YSH
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So basically no nukes.
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Jun 5 2025, 08:57 AM)
So basically no nukes.
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Basically, Trump says ayam tatau ayam virgin, lu sukak buat apa, lu buatlah lol

edit: just in case nanti amdk say i fitnah orange emperor, not cinaman say one, is one of your angmoh masters say one

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“Trump is being played,” Sen. Richard Blumenthal, a Connecticut Democrat who met with Ukrainian delegates on Wednesday morning, told TIME in an interview. “I’m disappointed that Trump didn't come down on him and say there’s no need for you to respond. No Russian was injured or killed in this operation. Sure, it makes you look bad, because it's humiliating. But there's no reason you need to kill people by bombing Ukrainian civilians, which is what you’re planning to do.”


Trump Warns Putin Plans to Retaliate 'Very Strongly' Against Ukraine
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-...ine/ar-AA1G67UO

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 5 2025, 09:55 AM)
Basically, Trump says ayam tatau ayam virgin, lu sukak buat apa, lu buatlah lol

edit: just in case nanti amdk say i fitnah orange emperor, not cinaman say one, is one of your angmoh masters say one
Trump Warns Putin Plans to Retaliate 'Very Strongly' Against Ukraine
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-...ine/ar-AA1G67UO
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So you think that if nukes are on the table there's zero alarm from the us administration?
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big brother China already told russia no nukes last time.

i doubt russia wanna have their lifeline cutoff lol
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So you think that if nukes are on the table there's zero alarm from the us administration?
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The US and UK are basically washing their hands and staying away from the whole shit show. Frankly, I don't think we are going to see any US retaliation even if Putin decides to bomb the crap out of Kyiv. At most, strongly WORDED statements, saying what a bad boy you are Putin.

Hopefully no nukes. Read what you will from Trump's statement.

edit: Mentioned before this, Ukraine is not under Nato, or any other nuclear umbrella.

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Strategic bomber need to park open air because of treaty ... now need to park hardened air shelter later people pull nuke trigger when they goes unaccountable can't verify it's location
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putin and xi always got" final warning" haha
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 4 2025, 12:42 PM)
Why u gave credit to NATO and US when it’s Ukraine that successfully pull off such clean and precise move?

The Ukraine move and previous embarrassment to Pudding when their own militia marched right into Russia capital without much resistance shown the world that Russia is paper tiger and overrated.
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Some small terrorist attack can be pulled out by any parties in any country

Problem is; does that country want to be identified and be responsible for such petty attacks and claim it was a success?

In the end, it doesn't change any reality in the battlefield.
Tooo bad as u claimed paper tiger Russia is still holding Ukraine territories, can NATO or even US change the reality? Nope
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 5 2025, 01:23 PM)
The US and UK are basically washing their hands and staying away from the whole shit show. Frankly, I don't think we are going to see any US retaliation even if Putin decides to bomb the crap out of Kyiv. At most, strongly WORDED statements, saying what a bad boy you are Putin.

Hopefully no nukes. Read what you will from Trump's statement.

edit: Mentioned before this, Ukraine is not under Nato, or any other nuclear umbrella.
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If that's an assessment, then its a poor one. its naive to claim that no one is going to be alarmed at even the threat of the first use of a nuke since ww2.


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991k and counting to 1m, all sacrifice to do bidding for the desperate man


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you know what is poking the bear

this, this is poking the bear

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This picture more apt to describe Russia.
Dunno how many times kena poked already but still acting ego

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Zelensky also did not inform US and from some of the news I read, Trump administration is furious as bombing those planes crossed the line and it gives justification to Putin to use nukes. The bombers are all out in the open like that because its requirement of the START treaty between US and Russia and Ukraine just kacau Russia ability to launch nukes. Thats why some people in Trump administration are saying they should quickly pull out from NATO to avoid getting implicated. Zelensky just want everyone to be involve in his war as he is losing support and desperately need EU and US to continue support him.
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You don't know that on 21 February 2023 Russia already suspend START Treaty?

Anyways, those planes are multi uses, legit target when one's at war with another.
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What a last-ditch desperate effort from a losing clown. He will get what he is asking for. LOL.

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If that's an assessment, then its a poor one. its naive to claim that no one is going to be alarmed at even the threat of the first use of a nuke since ww2.
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Traditionally, it has been the role of the US to talk these guys down from the brink. Well, the current president didn't even bother to read the rulebook.

Not a single nuclear superpower is interested in extending their nuclear umbrella over Ukraine. Even BFF France is keeping quiet.

So, all benefits with nothing much to lose. Tell me, if you were Putin, what would be the most logical next move? It would already be very good if he just bombs the shit out of Kyiv using conventional weapons.

QUOTE(nuvi @ Jun 5 2025, 04:24 PM)
This picture more apt to describe Russia.
Dunno how many times kena poked already but still acting ego

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Don't underestimate the man. It is not easy to remain in power for so long. A pussycat, Putin is not.
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Don't underestimate the man. It is not easy to remain in power for so long. A pussycat, Putin is not.
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More like don't overestimate the man. He remain in power for so long is what make him think he's invincible.
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More like don't overestimate the man. He remain in power for so long is what make him think he's invincible.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 5 2025, 04:38 PM)
Traditionally, it has been the role of the US to talk these guys down from the brink. Well, the current president didn't even bother to read the rulebook.

Not a single nuclear superpower is interested in extending their nuclear umbrella over Ukraine. Even BFF France is keeping quiet.

So, all benefits with nothing much to lose. Tell me, if you were Putin, what would be the most logical next move? It would already be very good if he just bombs the shit out of Kyiv using conventional weapons.
Don't underestimate the man. It is not easy to remain in power for so long. A pussycat, Putin is not.
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Since youre so convinced that nukes are on the table, tell you what, lets have a 1k bet on whether putin will use nukes in the next two weeks?

People tend to exercise better judgment when their money is on the line.
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Since youre so convinced that nukes are on the table, tell you what, lets have a 1k bet on whether putin will use nukes in the next two weeks?

People tend to exercise better judgment when their money is on the line.
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Not interested. I am not a betting man. Debate it coherently if you can.

Here, have a read of the US envoy's opinion about this, since you would disregard mine. Source is from the Kyiv post if that makes you happy.

‘Ukraine Can Play This Game Too’: Kellogg Warns Drone Strikes on Russian Nuclear Bombers Raise Risk Level
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/53920

edit: here is another article about why Russian shouldn't use nukes written in 2022. hth

Why Hasn’t Putin Gone Nuclear in Ukraine?
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-ha...-ukraine-205893

The problem with this view is that two of the most important reasons against the use of nukes isn't so strong today
1) The US is not promising retaliatory strikes, neither is NATO.
2) Ukraine hit the Russians nuclear strike capability first, so Putin has all the excuse needed.

You should probably look at if nukes are going to be effective and possible fallout for Putin.

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Ukraine also has underground drones that can penetrate Nuclear Silos and explode them
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QUOTE(judas @ Jun 5 2025, 02:22 PM)
Some small terrorist attack can be pulled out by any parties in any country

Problem is; does that country want to be identified and be responsible for such petty attacks and claim it was a success?

In the end, it doesn't change any reality in the battlefield.
Tooo bad as u claimed paper tiger Russia is still holding Ukraine territories, can NATO or even US change the reality? Nope
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Defuq u called this small terrorist attack? This is legitimate attack of invader’s military facility, done in most efficient way with precision.

Really topkek u guys keep following Russia narrative calling it terrorist attack. So only Russia’s daily missiles and bombing attack on Ukraine civilians targets are “legit warfare”? doh.gif
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 5 2025, 01:23 PM)
The US and UK are basically washing their hands and staying away from the whole shit show. Frankly, I don't think we are going to see any US retaliation even if Putin decides to bomb the crap out of Kyiv. At most, strongly WORDED statements, saying what a bad boy you are Putin.

Hopefully no nukes. Read what you will from Trump's statement.

edit: Mentioned before this, Ukraine is not under Nato, or any other nuclear umbrella.
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Ukraine was promised protection against nuke attack when it gave up its nukes. I doubt Pudding dare to use nuke after failed invasion. Will the international community accept aggressor country to launch nuke due to frustrating invasion? innocent.gif
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QUOTE(anavrin @ Jun 4 2025, 08:36 AM)
i'm amazed people can "learn" all sorts of positivity/ life theories from everywhere, especially from well known people, even if they do stupid sheet.

he just taunted Putin on his nuclear bomber.
that could means Putin will retaliate (maybe not yet with nuclear) but the end could be nearer.
Russia has a dead man defense system, where sensors within Russia soil if detect nuclear blast and no instructions from central command, the system will automatically assume all central command has been wiped out and fires all nuclear warhead to whole world...
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are those the same sensors used by Atto car doors?
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post Jun 5 2025, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Jun 5 2025, 05:50 PM)
are those the same sensors used by Atto car doors?
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there's only 1 way to find out, i hope whoever testing that had the same sarcasm mentality like you smile.gif
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post Jun 5 2025, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 5 2025, 05:09 PM)
Not interested. I am not a betting man. Debate it coherently if you can.

Here, have a read of the US envoy's opinion about this, since you would disregard mine. Source is from the Kyiv post if that makes you happy.

‘Ukraine Can Play This Game Too’: Kellogg Warns Drone Strikes on Russian Nuclear Bombers Raise Risk Level
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/53920

edit: here is another article about why Russian shouldn't use nukes written in 2022. hth

Why Hasn’t Putin Gone Nuclear in Ukraine?
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-ha...-ukraine-205893

The problem with this view is that two of the most important reasons against the use of nukes isn't so strong today
1) The US is not promising retaliatory strikes, neither is NATO.
2) Ukraine hit the Russians nuclear strike capability first, so Putin has all the excuse needed.

You should probably look at if nukes are going to be effective and possible fallout for Putin.
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The thing is your assumptions are, as I mentioned earlier, naive. It's not for nothing that both cold war countries refrained from nukes even when they're fighting in absolute wastelands like Afghanistan. And if they're hesitant to nuke 'heathen muslims' in deserted mountains, then they're not going to nuke fellow Slavs in lands whose main value is to grow crops.

But if you insist on this view, then the only thing I can say is that I'll tag you again in two weeks and see if your alarmist assessment proves true.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 5 2025, 10:55 AM)
Basically, Trump says ayam tatau ayam virgin, lu sukak buat apa, lu buatlah lol

edit: just in case nanti amdk say i fitnah orange emperor, not cinaman say one, is one of your angmoh masters say one
Trump Warns Putin Plans to Retaliate 'Very Strongly' Against Ukraine
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-...ine/ar-AA1G67UO
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Russia and allfather Putin final warning? ohmy.gif

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post Jun 5 2025, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 5 2025, 05:45 PM)
Ukraine was promised protection against nuke attack when it gave up its nukes. I doubt Pudding dare to use nuke after failed invasion. Will the international community accept aggressor country to launch nuke due to frustrating invasion?  innocent.gif
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However, tellingly absent from the document is reference to any recourse action or enforcement mechanism which would be triggered if one of the parties broke the deal.


Fact Check: Did Ukraine Give Up Nukes for Russia, U.S. Security Guarantees?
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-ukr...rantees-1765048

It really depends on if the US or UK will retaliate. Biden was clear, if Putin launched nukes it is nuclear Armageddon. The problem right now is Trump isn't exactly saying that. The UK and France are distancing themselves from this. Other than diplomatic rebukes and some token sanctions, what else are they likely to do?

The reason being Ukraine hit at Russia's nuclear strike capability first, providing a justification for a nuclear retaliation. Nobody knows if Putin will really push the button or not. It is unlikely, but it is not impossible right now.

Pros for Putin: quick end to the war, consolidate his grip on power
Cons for Putin: possible international backlash (less risky because of Ukraine's strike), no guarantee it will be effective, a deterrent is only effective if it is not used, limited possible targets

It remains to be seen if Operation Spiderweb did more harm to Ukraine than good.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 5 2025, 06:09 PM)
Russia and allfather Putin final warning? ohmy.gif
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i am not sure how many times russian officials and state media threaten nukes on Ukraine and on London lol

even sinking of flagship to bombing of crimean bridge seems to have cross red lines.

i wonder when Ukraine gonna start targeting russia economy lifeline which is oil production again.

QUOTE(empyreal @ Jun 5 2025, 06:07 PM)
The thing is your assumptions are, as I mentioned earlier, naive. It's not for nothing that both cold war countries refrained from nukes even when they're fighting in absolute wastelands like Afghanistan. And if they're hesitant to nuke 'heathen muslims' in deserted mountains, then they're not going to nuke fellow Slavs in lands whose main value is to grow crops.

But if you insist on this view, then the only thing I can say is that I'll tag you again in two weeks and see if your alarmist assessment proves true.
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jun 5 2025, 09:38 PM)
i am not sure how many times russian officials and state media threaten nukes on Ukraine and on London lol

even sinking of flagship to bombing of crimean bridge seems to have cross red lines.

i wonder when Ukraine gonna start targeting russia economy lifeline which is oil production again.
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The indicator of whether something really hurt russia, is when they start threatening nukes.

At this point, there's not much value in targeting russian oil production because oil prices dropped low. Apparently with the price cap, russia is selling oil at 50 per barrel when costs are 44 per barrel. Much more useful to target russia's logistics network - which thanks to the recent truck-drone attacks, will be a lot more scrutinised and industry a lot slower.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 5 2025, 05:45 PM)
Ukraine was promised protection against nuke attack when it gave up its nukes. I doubt Pudding dare to use nuke after failed invasion. Will the international community accept aggressor country to launch nuke due to frustrating invasion?  innocent.gif
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2 Things.

1. NATO promised USSR president Gorbachev in 1990 not to expand eastwards. Now NATO expansion has reached Russia's doorstep, betraying the promise. So, nobody talks about promise anymore since it is NATO who broke the promise first. Trust is already broken.

2. Nukes in Ukraine at the time did not belong to them. The command codes are in Kremlin and belong to the Russians. Even if Ukraine kept the nukes at the time, they couldn't use it.
If US can justify the use of nukes in Japan during WW2, I don't see how Russia cannot justify the use of nukes in Ukraine since Ukraine strike their nuke delivery means first. Since Russia already gotten hit with so much sanctions, Putin has nothing to lose if he use nukes in Ukraine.

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 5 2025, 10:51 PM)
2 Things.

1. NATO promised USSR president Gorbachev in 1990 not to expand eastwards. Now NATO expansion has reached Russia's doorstep, betraying the promise. So, nobody talks about promise anymore since it is NATO who broke the promise first. Trust is already broken.

2. Nukes in Ukraine at the time did not belong to them. The command codes are in Kremlin and belong to the Russians. Even if Ukraine kept the nukes at the time, they couldn't use it.
If US can justify the use of nukes in Japan during WW2, I don't see how Russia cannot justify the use of nukes in Ukraine since Ukraine strike their nuke delivery means first. Since Russia already gotten hit with so much sanctions, Putin has nothing to lose if he use nukes in Ukraine.
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Pudding won’t have the balls to launch nukes. Tag me again if he ever did. wink.gif

Paper Tiger Russia can’t even crush Ukraine after 3 years of conventional warfare, it has zero chance to win against more than one country’s warfare. Resorting to nukes only means mutual destruction, same as suicide.
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 5 2025, 10:51 PM)
2 Things.

1. NATO promised USSR president Gorbachev in 1990 not to expand eastwards. Now NATO expansion has reached Russia's doorstep, betraying the promise. So, nobody talks about promise anymore since it is NATO who broke the promise first. Trust is already broken.

2. Nukes in Ukraine at the time did not belong to them. The command codes are in Kremlin and belong to the Russians. Even if Ukraine kept the nukes at the time, they couldn't use it.
If US can justify the use of nukes in Japan during WW2, I don't see how Russia cannot justify the use of nukes in Ukraine since Ukraine strike their nuke delivery means first. Since Russia already gotten hit with so much sanctions, Putin has nothing to lose if he use nukes in Ukraine.
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post Jun 6 2025, 02:18 AM

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Trump is about to walk away from Ukraine methinks. Going to get even more interesting soon. Hottest summer.
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 4 2025, 10:51 AM)
Kesian, banyak jugak K/tards bodo simp over Ukraine.

Russian ain't saint too.
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yeah it's funny amdks have assembled in here like marvel avengers, saling jerking off to each other. all of them refused to acknowledge US is behind all these. leaked info already posted, all these old man amdks still want to circle jerk each other.

exactly like b40 umnogoons wearing red tshirt during bersih protest. lol.gif

 

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