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JimbeamofNRT
post May 28 2025, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 04:11 PM)

ISP already offer better equipment with subscription to the customer that needs it.

people with the problems always the vocal one, the one that is okay/satisfied, diam diam saja.

alot of time people said problem,buffering here and there, slow download speed,  but when i ask what kind of resource they are using, they refused to provide. so its make wonder, it is actually the problem with their equipment, ISP or problem with their fishy websites.

i for example admit use pirated content all the time, but many of the forumer here malu2 dont want to admit as people will judge badly on them.

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most ppl dont even know what kind of router that they have. heck, they dont even know ( or not bother to know ) whether their handphone support wifi 7 but die die need to upgrade to wifi 7 ( just because the ad says so )
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post May 28 2025, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 04:14 PM)
cerita panjang tak guna, apa router model your parents use?

they way you sound, you are tried so hard to justified your expensive purchase. even if the router does limit to 500mbps wireless, it is still freaking usable for most use case.
okay good, now you admit is good enough. next.
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i paid for 800mbps, why should i satisfied with 500mbps?
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post May 28 2025, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(death_nite @ May 28 2025, 04:17 PM)
i paid for 800mbps, why should i satisfied with 500mbps?
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and whats make you think the current ISP issued ax3000 router cant provide 800mbps via wireless?
my parents also use 800mbps package la, bammm 800mbps speed test, but within 10meter from the router la. laugh.gif skyworth or fiberhome brand, i dunno cant remember. the previous were ax1800 fiberhome brand, 500mbps is easy there.

my father got ax3000 router from TM also because of the recent speed upgrade exercise, changed for free because the previous router are deemed not good by the ISP.\

here the speedtest with TM D-Link DPN-FX3060V combo router


This post has been edited by zerorating: May 28 2025, 04:31 PM
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post May 28 2025, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 04:20 PM)
and whats make you think the current ISP issued ax3000 router cant provide 800mbps via wireless?
my parents also use 800mbps package la, bammm 800mbps speed test, but within 10meter from the router la.  laugh.gif skyworth or fiberhome brand, i dunno cant remember. the previous were ax1800 fiberhome brand, 500mbps is easy there.

my father got ax3000 router from TM also because of the recent speed upgrade exercise, changed for free because the previous router are deemed not good by the ISP.\

here the speedtest with TM D-Link DPN-FX3060V combo router

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I think both can be right at the same time.
This really depends on interference (how many neighbours you have) too.

At my in laws where their neighbours are a significant distant away, a cheap router can sustain 200-300mbps for an 300mbps plan even from 20-30 meters away.

At my place, being in a different room would cut my speed by half due to the amount of interference from neighbours in all direction. Selecting specific band doesn’t work when there are 40+ SSID broadcasting, saturating every channel.
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post May 28 2025, 04:42 PM

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Higher speed for faster download. Thats it.

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post May 28 2025, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(LegendLee @ May 28 2025, 04:40 PM)
I think both can be right at the same time.
This really depends on interference (how many neighbours you have) too.

At my in laws where their neighbours are a significant distant away, a cheap router can sustain 200-300mbps for an 300mbps plan even from 20-30 meters away.

At my place, being in a different room would cut my speed by half due to the amount of interference from neighbours in all direction. Selecting specific band doesn’t work when there are 40+ SSID broadcasting, saturating every channel.
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not to mentioned thick walls, etc
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post May 28 2025, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 04:20 PM)
and whats make you think the current ISP issued ax3000 router cant provide 800mbps via wireless?
my parents also use 800mbps package la, bammm 800mbps speed test, but within 10meter from the router la.  laugh.gif skyworth or fiberhome brand, i dunno cant remember. the previous were ax1800 fiberhome brand, 500mbps is easy there.
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if you are staying in condo with shear wall, you will have problem with coverage & stability. shear wall can easily intefere the wifi signal.
to overcome this, isp recommend mesh wifi. however backhaul for normal mesh wifi is shared hence bottleneck. when i was using 500mbps, this is not an issue until i upgrade to 800mbps. i just cant get the speed when using wifi. no issue with cable.

i switch to mesh router with wifi 7 and it solve the problem. my pc is wifi 7 as well.
normal user wont feel the different la cos most devices are still not utilising wifi 7.
btw speedtest with my phone shows different results too. before around 400+mbps. after 600+mbps.

if not using 800mbps, no need la invest new router.

Unifi still provide router with wifi 6. i think only Time give router with wifi 7.
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post May 28 2025, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(LegendLee @ May 28 2025, 04:40 PM)
I think both can be right at the same time.
This really depends on interference (how many neighbours you have) too.

At my in laws where their neighbours are a significant distant away, a cheap router can sustain 200-300mbps for an 300mbps plan even from 20-30 meters away.

At my place, being in a different room would cut my speed by half due to the amount of interference from neighbours in all direction. Selecting specific band doesn’t work when there are 40+ SSID broadcasting, saturating every channel.
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usually interference dont applies much on landed area.
my house area all sort of people use 5ghz band, but still manage to get what the router could provide. alot of time it just some users forced to use 2.4ghz band hence faced badly with interference issues. it didnt help when alot of iot devices are limited to 2.4ghz band.
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post May 28 2025, 04:51 PM

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post May 28 2025, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(death_nite @ May 28 2025, 04:45 PM)
if you are staying in condo with shear wall, you will have problem with coverage & stability. shear wall can easily intefere the wifi signal.
to overcome this, isp recommend mesh wifi. however backhaul for normal mesh wifi is shared hence bottleneck. when i was using 500mbps, this is not an issue until i upgrade to 800mbps. i just cant get the speed when using wifi. no issue with cable.

i switch to mesh router with wifi 7 and it solve the problem. my pc is wifi 7 as well.
normal user wont feel the different la cos most devices are still not utilising wifi 7.
btw speedtest with my phone shows different results too. before around 400+mbps. after 600+mbps.

if not using 800mbps, no need la invest new router.

Unifi still provide router with wifi 6. i think only Time give router with wifi 7.
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again not everyone need maximum speed on all their room.
if you want the maxmum speed, get close to the router, for other stuff, mehhh not much a concern, 20mbps can still play 1080p video.

recommending after-market stuff for people that really doesnt need it is silly. i only recommend people getting aftermarket stuff if they need extra feature like SMB server, torrent client or needing fast or extra network ports for all their clients (newer router provide 2.5/5/10gbps port)

also i need to tell you that TM ax3000 my parents house use actually having better coverage and better performance than my old rusty tplink c2600(with more sensitive 4x4 antenna).i recall that i could get around ~750mbps outside of the house too.

anyway my point is ISP issued devices have gone long way, dont discounting them. own router is good to have but hardly a necessities nowadays, thats why if you go sri IT or viewnet hardly people go to network equipment section because public dont find they needing it.

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I'm using Unifi 800 Mbps.. It depends how many is using the internet in your house.. In my house, there are 4 users and my brother and I are heavy users for PC and PS5 gaming

800 Mbps also slow for me
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post May 28 2025, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 28 2025, 04:44 PM)
not to mentioned thick walls, etc
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Thick plywood/hollow walls don't count tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 04:20 PM)
and whats make you think the current ISP issued ax3000 router cant provide 800mbps via wireless?
my parents also use 800mbps package la, bammm 800mbps speed test, but within 10meter from the router la.  laugh.gif skyworth or fiberhome brand, i dunno cant remember. the previous were ax1800 fiberhome brand, 500mbps is easy there.

my father got ax3000 router from TM also because of the recent speed upgrade exercise, changed for free because the previous router are deemed not good by the ISP.\

here the speedtest with TM D-Link DPN-FX3060V combo router

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In densly populated area, having lots of personal wifi networks causes interference or collisions.
Performance can degrade.
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post May 28 2025, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 28 2025, 06:40 PM)
In densly populated area, having lots of personal wifi networks causes interference or collisions.
Performance can degrade.
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5ghz coverage are smaller, less chance for collision.
also aftermarket router are not immune of this collision situation, the only thing it could help were intelligently select less dense wifi channel or bonding more channel so that the network will have more bandwidth for those network(more time allocation for node that demands for it) or the usage of 6ghz band.

anyway you are right, want to have better wifi, dont live in dense area laugh.gif
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post May 28 2025, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ May 28 2025, 05:03 PM)
I'm using Unifi 800 Mbps.. It depends how many is using the internet in your house.. In my house, there are 4 users and my brother and I are heavy users for PC and PS5 gaming

800 Mbps also slow for me
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Likely is your router/switch/access point the 3 in one junk cannot handle it eh. Use enterprise router, ubiquity Aruba tplink omada, I have 30-40 iot devices connected no issues
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post May 28 2025, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ May 27 2025, 08:27 PM)
5 person household here
300mbps is slow
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this is the reason the need of using 500mbps+ , American already 1gbps+ hmm cool2.gif
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post May 28 2025, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(jangyelo @ May 28 2025, 12:19 PM)
Difference is 500mbps
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thx proffessor.
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post May 28 2025, 09:26 PM

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the stock routers have small heat sinks .may hang under 500mbps download for longer time.
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QUOTE(siren @ May 28 2025, 12:16 PM)
I used to subscribed to 800 mbps Celcom WiFi package.

Previously, I subscribed to 300 mbps package.

However, I don't see any difference at all. Gaming, stream porn, Youtube, Tiktok, live stream all can be done over 300 mbps and it is smooth.

Anyone regretted subscribing to 500 or 800 package where 300 mbps can do the job?
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Do u have a modem that support WiFi 6?
Do a speed test.
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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ May 28 2025, 12:27 PM)
5 person household here
300mbps is slow
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QUOTE(EncikSejati @ May 28 2025, 08:16 PM)
this is the reason the need of using 500mbps+ , American already 1gbps+ hmm cool2.gif
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No, get 2 router, split the speed if u have few floors.

Solve latency and slowness

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