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post Jun 5 2025, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(even_steven @ Jun 5 2025, 08:29 PM)
This idea is not bad actually, but swap will not really help with FSR  sad.gif
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Knowing Barcelona’s financial struggles, this is probably the best solution to vacant the number #10 for Cunha brows.gif
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QUOTE(bryan_x00 @ Jun 5 2025, 07:36 PM)
João Neves
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From CL winner to PL relegation battle position?
That's a big downgrade for Neves.
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post Jun 5 2025, 08:42 PM

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Brentford wants 65 - 70m for Mbuemo.
In other news, Sporting wants 65 - 70m for Gyokores.

So......
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post Jun 5 2025, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 5 2025, 08:42 PM)
Brentford wants 65 - 70m for Mbuemo.
In other news, Sporting wants 65 - 70m for Gyokores.

So......
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So need sell Garnacho, Rashford off since they are pure profit for PSR

Antony, Hojlund, can loan or sell to get some cash

Sancho don’t know who want him

Then see how good Jason Wilcox is on nego after get promoted as DoF
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post Jun 5 2025, 08:57 PM

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Mark your calendar, guys !
New Home kit launching , make some funds for Amorim’s transfer budget

Will definitely contribute on the 3rd kits( Iconic black ) drool.gif drool.gif

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post Jun 5 2025, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 5 2025, 08:42 PM)
Brentford wants 65 - 70m for Mbuemo.
In other news, Sporting wants 65 - 70m for Gyokores.

So......
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Should be in the line already as it been really quiet on Gyokeres since the transfer window opens
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QUOTE(8080733 @ Jun 5 2025, 09:01 PM)
Should be in the line already as it been really quiet on Gyokeres since the transfer window opens
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Chelsea got Delap, Arsenal chasing Sesko, unless Liverpool coming in but they busy chasing Witz… so Gyokeres is left without anyone going after him

per @Gazzetta_it

- Hojlund open to join Inter.

- Yesterday, Ausilio (Inter Sporting Director) had contact with #mufc.

- #mufc want permanent deal.

- Inter want loan + buy option ~ €45m, become obligatory under conditions.

- Inter confident, Juve are behind in the race.
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post Jun 5 2025, 09:36 PM

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Villa is shittier than us… how they can afford rashford if they qualify for UCL
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post Jun 5 2025, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jun 5 2025, 09:36 PM)
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Villa is shittier than us… how they can afford rashford if they qualify for UCL
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How come lfc only had 75m to spend?
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post Jun 6 2025, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jun 5 2025, 11:19 PM)
How come lfc only had 75m to spend?
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It's not ability to spend, its ability to incur loss without breaching PSR.

The small extra money they got from TAA alone can cover like a 40mil signing no issue.
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jun 6 2025, 09:45 AM)
It's not ability to spend, its ability to incur loss without breaching PSR.

The small extra money they got from TAA alone can cover like a 40mil signing no issue.
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confusing stuff. i thought its over a period of 3 years. they have not spend big for the past 3 years iirc... same with city who does a lot of mega buck selling... and minimal purchase until recent 2 windows including current.
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post Jun 6 2025, 10:33 AM

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Bayer Leverkusen boss Erik ten Hag is monitoring the situation surrounding Manchester United's 25-year-old winger Antony, who he brought to Old Trafford after working with the Brazilian at Ajax. (Sky Germany)
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jun 6 2025, 09:59 AM)
confusing stuff. i thought its over a period of 3 years. they have not spend big for the past 3 years iirc... same with city who does a lot of mega buck selling... and minimal purchase until recent 2 windows including current.
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Liverpool (estimated pre-tax loss limit in 2024-25: £75m)

Despite breaking even since Fenway Sports Group bought the club in October 2010, Liverpool’s pre-tax result for 2023-24 was their worst ever — £57.1m was shipped, which on top of a £9m deficit a year earlier put the club’s combined loss at £66.1m for the first two years of the current PSR cycle.

Liverpool haven’t been funded by equity recently, so their losses are limited to £15million over three seasons. They do, however, have chunky allowable costs. The club’s infrastructure accounts for around £16m in annual depreciation charges, while they also run one of the more expensive youth setups in England.

We estimate Liverpool could have lost £75million in their 2024-25 accounting period (which ended on Saturday) and still have been compliant with Premier League rules. In reality, with booming revenues and player sale profits of £41.9m (around double the size of 2023-24), Liverpool were considerably more likely to have been profitable last season than to have strayed anywhere close to their loss limit.



Manchester United (estimated pre-tax loss limit in 2024-25: £141m)

As detailed by The Athletic, Manchester United’s PSR position is calculated using the accounts of Red Football Limited (RFL), rather than Manchester United plc (RFL is a subsidiary of the plc entity).

That’s a pretty big factor, as in recent years the pre-tax result of those companies has diverged significantly. In 2023-24, Manchester United plc lost £130.7million before tax; for RFL, the deficit was just £36.2m. Per UEFA’s most recent European Club Finance and Investment Landscape report, pre-tax loss figures for United were €22m (£19m at the exchange rate used in the report) in 2022-23 and €42m (£36m) in 2023-24 — an exact mirror of the pre-tax results in RFL’s accounts.

The difference stems partly from RFL including none of the costs borne by the plc as part of Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s share purchase in February 2024, but also from the structure of loans within the wider Manchester United group. RFL’s bottom line benefited from booking interest income on intra-group loans owed to RFL by entities further up the corporate chain, as well as recharging staff time to elsewhere in the business (sources have told The Athletic this time comprised plc-related business undertaken by executives, such as investor relations, rather than football-related activities). Foreign exchange differences in RFL were more favourable than at the plc level, too.

Based on RFL’s loss figures, it’s a struggle to see how there were ever any PSR worries at the club — though that’s only true once Ratcliffe’s arrival was accompanied by equity investment, which raised United’s three-year PSR loss limit from £15m to £105m.

There is also the complication whereby we do not know exactly which costs United were required to add back into their PSR calculation. Both the Premier League and UEFA use a ‘reporting perimeter’ that requires you to include all costs “in respect of (that club’s) football activities”, including any amounts that occur under the auspice of other legal entities.

According to Old Trafford sources, for the purposes of their PSR calculation, United are required to strip out any foreign exchange differences and the impact of intra-group loan interest. That means United’s pre-tax loss in its PSR calculation is larger than that shown in RFL’s accounts, though still below the loss in the plc entity.

RFL’s pre-tax loss across the 2022-23 and 2023-24 seasons was £55.1million, and United’s loss limit across the three-year PSR cycle is £105m following Ratcliffe’s injections of equity in 2024. After taking into account allowable costs, and adjusting for exchange differences and the intra-group interest, we reckon United could lose around £141m in 2024-25 and still comply with Premier League rules. In other words, they’ll be fine this summer, however surprising that may seem.




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We survive cuz sir Jim pump extra equity in the club
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post Jun 6 2025, 04:27 PM

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We survive cuz sir Jim pump extra equity in the club
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You meant the Glazers survived bruce.gif
If no Jim, Glazers would have no choice but sell to the Qataris
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post Jun 6 2025, 09:11 PM

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Away looks good
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post Jun 6 2025, 10:35 PM

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Why suddenly buzzing with Gyokorez coming to Utd? I won’t believe anything until the official club website announces it.
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post Jun 6 2025, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jun 6 2025, 10:35 PM)
Why suddenly buzzing with Gyokorez coming to Utd? I won’t believe anything until the official club website announces it.
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I think is because surprisingly not much club interested in him in the end, and he said he won't mind join us as long as club willing to pay.

Anyway will need to settle Mbeumo 1st only will move on to him I guess...

Quite an amount also to pay and brought him over...

While we are not selling anyone out yet...
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Good Signing?

At least he is a Proven Premier League player notworthy.gif


Bye Bye Antony whistling.gif

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Good Signing?

At least he is a Proven Premier League player notworthy.gif
Bye Bye Antony whistling.gif
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Not sure. Quite a lot red flags. Transfer fee too high. Salary also too high. Ada Sancho, Mount pattern. Buy liao flop then gg.

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