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skystrike
post Jun 5 2025, 11:01 AM

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MU bid 55m pound of mbeumo was rejected...brentfort want same price like cunha....
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QUOTE(skystrike @ Jun 5 2025, 11:01 AM)
MU bid 55m pound of mbeumo was rejected...brentfort want same price like cunha....
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He have 1+1 contract, that’s why Brentford afford to nego


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post Jun 5 2025, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Jun 5 2025, 10:52 AM)
i dont think most sane fans will say bruno is shit. in some games yes but not his fault.
its about the rebuilding process under amorim system. in 343, bruno supposed to be one of the 10s, thats his best position where he has more freedom. playing in the middle in this sytem requires discipline and a lot of running to cover that area. its like kante-jorginho in tuchel, or modric-kroos in madrid, they dont keep spraying and loosing position as they like ..so, what makes you think next season will be different if amorim keep playing bruno there? it doesnt fit the purpose of 343 according to himself, a running dogs. and again, why that pivot is crucial to his system? because he use wingbacks! they will join the attacking, crossing, overlapping, that pivot must have a very discipline player. and if player like bruno cannot spray hollywood passes, you limit his ability because the bruno that i know always take risk, players like this is important at front. bruno never fit that pivot profile. so, keeping him is like defeat amorim purpose to rebuild., because as a captain, he cannot drop bruno. no more pivot, system will fail. now imagine if burno willing to change his style, play in deeper role, keep the ball, who is going to provie the creativity? now mbuemo cunha is coming. so you really think both players better than bruno? i dont think so. maybe amorim will change the style of play without changing his formation. thats like rebuilding the team around bruno, really??? does it make sense? for me, thats a terrible idea.

but hopefully amorim can prove the fans wrong by keeping bruno, to prove that he can rebuild this shit team around bruno.

lets take pirlo as study case, a 10 switch to deep-lying midfilder .. in his ancelotti era, he plays with the best back-4 in the world behind him.
under conte, he plays with 4 hardworking midfielders infront of him in 352. this kind of player just jog around and spray some passes. is this what amorim have in mind? maybe .. but in 343? pirlo will suffer and look like shit

farklah .. even AI can smells what amorim is doing

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will give him benefit of doubt for this window if its a decent one for him. and need to shipout those like sancho rash permanently... ganarcho should be out too with the incomings.

will also give chance for this hojlund as sub and not main striker.. dude cant run, cant position, cant finish. first season he looks ok for a young striker with hit and miss.. but if got interested party, ccan sell haha
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jun 5 2025, 02:06 PM)
will give him benefit of doubt for this window if its a decent one for him. and need to shipout those like sancho rash permanently... ganarcho should be out too with the incomings.

will also give chance for this hojlund as sub and not main striker.. dude cant run, cant position, cant finish. first season he looks ok for a young striker with hit and miss.. but if got interested party, ccan sell haha
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His value now is 35M, if sell him will be bad on PSR



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post Jun 5 2025, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Jun 5 2025, 10:52 AM)
i dont think most sane fans will say bruno is shit. in some games yes but not his fault.
its about the rebuilding process under amorim system. in 343, bruno supposed to be one of the 10s, thats his best position where he has more freedom. playing in the middle in this sytem requires discipline and a lot of running to cover that area. its like kante-jorginho in tuchel, or modric-kroos in madrid, they dont keep spraying and loosing position as they like ..so, what makes you think next season will be different if amorim keep playing bruno there? it doesnt fit the purpose of 343 according to himself, a running dogs. and again, why that pivot is crucial to his system? because he use wingbacks! they will join the attacking, crossing, overlapping, that pivot must have a very discipline player. and if player like bruno cannot spray hollywood passes, you limit his ability because the bruno that i know always take risk, players like this is important at front. bruno never fit that pivot profile. so, keeping him is like defeat amorim purpose to rebuild., because as a captain, he cannot drop bruno. no more pivot, system will fail. now imagine if burno willing to change his style, play in deeper role, keep the ball, who is going to provie the creativity? now mbuemo cunha is coming. so you really think both players better than bruno? i dont think so. maybe amorim will change the style of play without changing his formation. thats like rebuilding the team around bruno, really??? does it make sense? for me, thats a terrible idea.

but hopefully amorim can prove the fans wrong by keeping bruno, to prove that he can rebuild this shit team around bruno.

lets take pirlo as study case, a 10 switch to deep-lying midfilder .. in his ancelotti era, he plays with the best back-4 in the world behind him.
under conte, he plays with 4 hardworking midfielders infront of him in 352. this kind of player just jog around and spray some passes. is this what amorim have in mind? maybe .. but in 343? pirlo will suffer and look like shit

farklah .. even AI can smells what amorim is doing

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Bro, with all due respect none of us here are actually qualified for any amount of tactical planning and analysis. I can only say for sure last season how Bruno did. Tactics and strategy wise there only 1 person for that and it’s Reuben. If manager wants him then it’s his job to make the player do his best. In terms of position and role, I myself dunno how to lay out a 343 or a 351. Can only hope the vision and execution match the physical labour.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jun 5 2025, 02:12 PM)
His value now is 35M, if sell him will be bad on PSR
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no one gonna pay that for him... sadly ... esp those italian clubs with limited funds.. and we just got -15m by cfc also
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this city reli strong and fast this window. lfc also if they get wirtz, thats kdb no2 already.

if we can get mbeumbo and cunha (confirmed) + 1 striker + clear out sancho and rashford permanently and onana/hojlund, then we have a good window
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post Jun 5 2025, 03:29 PM

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Mbuemo asking for 250k per week is quite excessive, in my opinion. At that price point, I don't think we should do it.

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 5 2025, 03:29 PM)
Mbuemo asking for 250k per week is quite excessive, in my opinion. At that price point, I don't think we should do it.

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I heard this is just rumors though...

The concern would be the transfer fee since 1st offer already getting rejected...

There is always other options though if Mbuerno is too pricey or too demanding...

So really depends on the club management now whether want to continue become water fish or not...
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 5 2025, 03:29 PM)
Mbuemo asking for 250k per week is quite excessive, in my opinion. At that price point, I don't think we should do it.

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very hard to get rid of him if he is a flop ala freedom fighter. (high wage)
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 5 2025, 03:29 PM)
Mbuemo asking for 250k per week is quite excessive, in my opinion. At that price point, I don't think we should do it.

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Swap sancho.... our club cant pay 250k now. Let it be base with performance incentives
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post Jun 5 2025, 05:27 PM

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if only chelsea willing to take sancho for felix, it should be a good trade for us....
really wonder how could felix suffer drop in form since leaving atletico...
wonder why cant he thrive under chelsea play style?
quite impress with his directness play like young ronaldo....

as for bruno case, like scholes argue, sometime bruno try to do too much by himself....
that lead to him out of position sometime...
but what to do if ur team mate doesnt step up?
jz play safe and keep ur place?
then wait for ship to sink only.....
this current team are unlike a proper team with good set up/cover....

mbeumo request abit high....kinda risky to proceed....
if flop then another high earner stuck within the squad....
plus i really wonder why nowadays RW/RF are mostly left footed....
like mbeumo/salah/bowen.....

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post Jun 5 2025, 06:04 PM

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🚨 Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s £237 million equity investment raised #mufc’s three-year PSR loss limit from £15m to £105m.

​​🚨 Jason Wilcox has been officially promoted to Manchester United's director of football.

🚨 Sir Dave Brailsford is scaling back his involvement at Manchester United.

JacobsBen:🚨 If Man United can find a way to pay the €70 million for Viktor Gyokeres, he would be keen to reunite with Ruben Amorim even without Champions League football. Outgoings will play a big part in such funds, though.
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QUOTE(Darren @ Jun 5 2025, 05:27 PM)
if only chelsea willing to take sancho for felix, it should be a good trade for us....
really wonder how could felix suffer drop in form since leaving atletico...
wonder why cant he thrive under chelsea play style?
quite impress with his directness play like young ronaldo....

as for bruno case, like scholes argue, sometime bruno try to do too much by himself....
that lead to him out of position sometime...
but what to do if ur team mate doesnt step up?
jz play safe and keep ur place?
then wait for ship to sink only.....
this current team are unlike a proper team with good set up/cover....

mbeumo request abit high....kinda risky to proceed....
if flop then another high earner stuck within the squad....
plus i really wonder why nowadays RW/RF are mostly left footed....
like mbeumo/salah/bowen.....
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AC Milan don’t even want him and send him back to Chelsea

Bruno needs to pair with workhorse like Ugarte who can help him sweep his back, with Casemiro both are slow. Problem with Ugarte is he can’t pass ball like Casemiro did.
Next season just don’t build team around him

Mbeumo salary demand was rumour, latest I read he demanding around 150-175k which is acceptable but Brentford want 62.5M same like Cunha cuz he still have 1+1 contract

Nowadays modern football wingers always prefer opposite leg cuz manager always instruct them to cut in as extra forwards to score
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jun 5 2025, 06:29 PM)
AC Milan don’t even want him and send him back to Chelsea

Bruno needs to pair with workhorse like Ugarte who can help him sweep his back, with Casemiro both are slow. Problem with Ugarte is he can’t pass ball like Casemiro did.
Next season just don’t build team around him

Mbeumo salary demand was rumour, latest I read he demanding around 150-175k which is acceptable but Brentford want 62.5M same like Cunha cuz he still have 1+1 contract

Nowadays modern football wingers always prefer opposite leg cuz manager always instruct them to cut in as extra forwards to score
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yeah...quite surprise felix flop at chelsea n ac milan
chelsea maybe due to big spending of chelsea owner and number of player in squad....
but ac milan? his pace + skill should have no problem for italy league....
been hoping man utd go for him when he decide to leave atletico....the rest is history....haha...

most of the DM are short passer + sweeper type....
not much of jorginho type of play in DM....
man utd too depend on bruno for forward pass and make him obvious target for opponent....
still remmber when eriksen + bruno, we have 2passer n share the burden/target by opponent...

yeah....kinda weird of opposite leg for the wide player....
encourage wide player cutting inside more mean striker less feeder...
make no9 situation kinda weird sometimes...
need player to be more crucial with limited chance...


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QUOTE(Darren @ Jun 5 2025, 07:30 PM)
yeah...quite surprise felix flop at chelsea n ac milan
chelsea maybe due to big spending of chelsea owner and number of player in squad....
but ac milan? his pace + skill should have no problem for italy league....
been hoping man utd go for him when he decide to leave atletico....the rest is history....haha...

most of the DM are short passer + sweeper type....
not much of jorginho type of play in DM....
man utd too depend on bruno for forward pass and make him obvious target for opponent....
still remmber when eriksen + bruno, we have 2passer n share the burden/target by opponent...

yeah....kinda weird of opposite leg for the wide player....
encourage wide player cutting inside more mean striker less feeder...
make no9 situation kinda weird sometimes...
need player to be more crucial with limited chance...
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QUOTE(skystrike @ Jun 5 2025, 11:01 AM)
MU bid 55m pound of mbeumo was rejected...brentfort want same price like cunha....
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Luckily Bruno stay, if not surely they will ask for 100m pound doh.gif
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Since Rashford so eager to move to Barcelona, perhaps the team should look into a swap deal with Ter Stegen ? Win Win for all thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(8080733 @ Jun 5 2025, 08:22 PM)
Since Rashford so eager to move to Barcelona, perhaps the team should look into a swap deal with Ter Stegen ? Win Win for all  thumbup.gif
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This idea is not bad actually, but swap will not really help with FSR sad.gif

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