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 Toyota warns time running out to challenge China’s, lead in hydrogen vehicles

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post May 27 2025, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 27 2025, 04:22 PM)
Unlike traditional electric vehicles (EVs) that store electricity in batteries, FCEVs generate electricity on the go through a chemical reaction between hydrogen and oxygen. This process produces water vapor as a byproduct, resulting in zero tailpipe emissions.
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And the hydrogen comes from where? Just do a search and you will get the answer. It's from fossil industry.
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QUOTE(vhs @ May 27 2025, 04:12 PM)
Why Toyota sendiri does not invest? Brazil ada, India ada, Indonesia ada, Vietnam ada.
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Their worry is, now invest, once enter the market, China can rapidly manufacture and deploy cheaper alternatives.

No country in the world can match China in this alone. It is a real worry, unfortunately this capitalist world
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QUOTE(Chowda @ May 27 2025, 04:28 PM)
Their worry is, now invest, once enter the market, China can rapidly manufacture and deploy cheaper alternatives.

No country in the world can match China in this alone. It is a real worry, unfortunately this capitalist world
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Got national security mah. Ask government to subsidize tongue.gif

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Support our local made in china product
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QUOTE(anakMY @ May 27 2025, 04:14 PM)
hydrogen trucks lorries yes yes,  hydrogen passenger cars no no .
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Why?
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post May 27 2025, 04:46 PM

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I think toyota are too slow... China is do first, think later. If doesn't work, just scrap it.
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QUOTE(GHBZDK @ May 27 2025, 04:19 PM)
you can just
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not sell camry at 230k
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Thats just UMW, not Toyota Global. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(vhs @ May 27 2025, 04:33 PM)
Got national security mah. Ask government to subsidize tongue.gif
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Ideally, ask world to subsidize. Country that don't subsidize, don't get access to cheap hydrogen.
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ May 27 2025, 04:19 PM)
From a state with major petroleum industry? Sure.
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Maybe you are not aware, this is old news

https://hydrogenapac.com/2024/04/29/swaks-h...a-partnerships/
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QUOTE(Matchy @ May 27 2025, 05:46 PM)
I think toyota are too slow... China is do first, think later. If doesn't work, just scrap it.
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China has no choice because ICE already dominated by a few major companies

Their only option is to give alternatives like EV and hydrogen
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China: Hmm... hydrogen also could be a potential green replacement for ICE. Let's do it too.

Japan:... fuuuuuuc
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ May 27 2025, 04:13 PM)
The hydrogen comes mainly from fossil fuels also rite?
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No.

Hydrolysis.

Using electricity to turn water that is H2O and separate H2 from O.

So in sarawak with hydropower we can convert h2o to hydrogen

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ May 27 2025, 04:23 PM)
weird why sama sama government backed project. CCP can fuck up the whole world. But those government backed in Malaysia end up kena fuck ownself need bail out.
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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 27 2025, 04:13 PM)
China got government backup
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It is government job to give direction and support it
China doing so well on this until others claim it is distorting market by subsidy
Well competition with subsidy is better than close door policy out of fear of competition.

Ban using huawei equipment and software
Detail and charge huawei management
Ban supply input material to huawei - chip
Ban using huawei AI chip
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QUOTE(Mixxomon @ May 27 2025, 04:14 PM)
Toyota has vested interest in keeping ICE structure because they own or JV most of the supply chains, especially on the engine and drive train parts.

If they go EV the whole engine and drive train companies can close shop dy.
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But nobody can stop the technology progress.....
Living in past glory won't be sustainable

Solar + EV = Cost saving plus environment friendly

Some ktard do so
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ May 27 2025, 04:23 PM)
weird why sama sama government backed project. CCP can fuck up the whole world. But those government backed in Malaysia end up kena fuck ownself need bail out.
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Variable in efficiency and corruption level?
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QUOTE(Matchy @ May 27 2025, 04:46 PM)
I think toyota are too slow... China is do first, think later. If doesn't work, just scrap it.
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China method is improve while doing while offer much cheaper price...
That is how Huawei gain market
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post May 27 2025, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 27 2025, 05:41 PM)
No.

Hydrolysis.

Using electricity to turn water that is H2O and separate H2 from O.

So in sarawak with hydropower we can convert h2o to hydrogen
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That is what I thought in the beginning. But the vast majority of hydrogen supplies are being produced relying on fossil fuel.

This just what Google said.

Green hydrogen? Super small supply.
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ May 27 2025, 04:13 PM)
The hydrogen comes mainly from fossil fuels also rite?
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so far the cheapest source is from fossil fuels.
it can also come from electrolysis but require more energy, unless solar can become much cheaper.
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post May 27 2025, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 27 2025, 04:13 PM)
China got government backup
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Other countries’ govt buat apa? Every govt got protect certain domestic industries, why only PRC alleged to be the only govt capable to boost their own industries?

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