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 Toyota warns time running out to challenge China’s, lead in hydrogen vehicles

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post May 27 2025, 04:13 PM

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The hydrogen comes mainly from fossil fuels also rite?
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post May 27 2025, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 27 2025, 04:18 PM)
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I really don't think so. I remember Google searching abt this before.
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post May 27 2025, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 27 2025, 04:22 PM)
Unlike traditional electric vehicles (EVs) that store electricity in batteries, FCEVs generate electricity on the go through a chemical reaction between hydrogen and oxygen. This process produces water vapor as a byproduct, resulting in zero tailpipe emissions.
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And the hydrogen comes from where? Just do a search and you will get the answer. It's from fossil industry.
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post May 27 2025, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 27 2025, 05:41 PM)
No.

Hydrolysis.

Using electricity to turn water that is H2O and separate H2 from O.

So in sarawak with hydropower we can convert h2o to hydrogen
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That is what I thought in the beginning. But the vast majority of hydrogen supplies are being produced relying on fossil fuel.

This just what Google said.

Green hydrogen? Super small supply.
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post May 27 2025, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 27 2025, 06:43 PM)
Green hydrogen

Green hydrogen is made by using clean electricity from surplus renewable energy sources, such as solar or wind power, to electrolyse water. Electrolysers use an electrochemical reaction to split water into its components of hydrogen and oxygen, emitting zero-carbon dioxide in the process.

Green hydrogen currently makes up a small percentage of the overall hydrogen, because production is expensive. Just as energy from wind power has reduced in price, green hydrogen will come down in price as it becomes more common.


Blue hydrogen
Blue hydrogen is produced mainly from natural gas, using a process called steam reforming, which brings together natural gas and heated water in the form of steam. The output is hydrogen, but carbon dioxide is also produced as a by-product. So, the definition of blue hydrogen includes the use of carbon capture and storage (CCS) to trap and store this carbon.

Blue hydrogen is sometimes described as ‘low-carbon hydrogen’, as the steam reforming process doesn’t actually avoid the creation of greenhouse gases.


Grey hydrogen
Currently, this is the most common form of hydrogen production. Grey hydrogen is created from natural gas, or methane, using steam methane reformation but without capturing the greenhouse gases made in the process. Grey hydrogen is essentially the same as blue hydrogen, but without the use of carbon capture and storage.


Black and brown hydrogen
Using black coal or lignite (brown coal) in the hydrogen-making process, these black and brown hydrogen are the absolute opposite of green hydrogen in the hydrogen spectrum and the most environmentally damaging.

Just to confuse things, any hydrogen made from fossil fuels through the process of ‘gasification’ is sometimes called black or brown hydrogen interchangeably.

Japan and Australia announced a new brown coal-to-hydrogen project recently. This project will use brown coal in Australia to produce liquefied hydrogen, which will then be shipped to Japan for low-emission use.


Pink hydrogen
Pink hydrogen is generated through electrolysis powered by nuclear energy. Nuclear-produced hydrogen can also be referred to as purple hydrogen or red hydrogen.

In addition, the very high temperatures from nuclear reactors could be used in other hydrogen productions by producing steam for more efficient electrolysis or fossil gas-based steam methane reforming.


Turquoise hydrogen
This is a new entry in the hydrogen colour charts and production has yet to be proven at scale. Turquoise hydrogen is made using a process called methane pyrolysis to produce hydrogen and solid carbon. In the future, turquoise hydrogen may be valued as a low-emission hydrogen, dependent on the thermal process being powered with renewable energy and the carbon being permanently stored or used.


Yellow hydrogen
Yellow hydrogen is a relatively new phrase for hydrogen made through electrolysis using solar power.


White hydrogen
White hydrogen is a naturally occurring, geological hydrogen found in underground deposits and created through fracking. There are no strategies to exploit this hydrogen at present.
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This is one woke atom family. Hahaha. More color than rainbow. Lol.
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QUOTE(stupiak07 @ May 27 2025, 08:12 PM)
Hydrogen is pretty much everywhere as water
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