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From my link above, .......

.... Yet the simpler route is not without its pitfalls. EVs from Hyundai, Kia and Genesis don't have the same power management issue as Rivians. They have a much worse physical issue. The Integrated Charging Control Unit (ICCU) that charges the 12-volt batteries in these vehicles is a key failure point. A transistor within the unit can be damaged by overvoltage, making it unable to charge the vehicle's 12-volt battery. When that happens, it's a ticking clock until you lose all 12-volt power. That will lead to a gradual loss of drive power, which the recall notice notes could potentially increase the risk of crashing. Well, multiple recall notices. ...

= a failing 12V battery in a moving EV car can result in loss of drive power, and in the case of the BYD Atto 3 in Malaysia, it resulted in a total loss of drive power (not gradual loss) and immediate braking on the highway = A TERRIFYING SITUATION, ie 12V battery fail ---> door sensors also likely fail ---> falsely sensing as door open while car is moving ---> auto activation of EPB and total power shutdown.
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: May 29 2025, 05:53 PM

Again you are creating failure links by yourself

eg:-Why would 12V battery fail when it is powered by Dc/DC converter at 13.8V. So Inaccurate.

Any electronic door sensor are voltage regulated. So inaccurate.

You can go round and round and repeat your same story and I will counter you the same way.

I also can create stories :-
12V battery fail ---> LCD light flikering ---> I get headache. LOL

This post has been edited by Drian: May 29 2025, 06:11 PM

Sorry but that gracefully failing ain't happening and it never will either especially with a lead acid battery.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: May 29 2025, 06:30 PM

Their car damn heavy chance of survival is high unless is big lorry 🚛 or tanker

Not only damn heavy but damn stable as well. Remember the collision at a roundabout in Melaka, it sent the ICE flipping over while the EV steady aje. Then another case, the EV lifted the 4x4 and spun it 90° before crashing into other ICEs. Another was when the EV not happy with motobodo and in an instant smashed into the motobodo at the side. Fuh

ICE already dunno how to drive properly, I wonder what will it be like with EV with all that instant power. LOL

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: May 29 2025, 07:21 PM

i’d stick to old school analog saga with no power steering

electronics here and there pffff, what you need a sensor to tell your blind spot too ? amateurs

After warranty can sell

Didn't your own geekzone forum link stated that there was around 1 BYD Atto 3 breakdown per day due to failed 12V battery caused by long ship-freight of the EV cars from CCP China to NZ.?

Didn't my insideevs link stated that faulty ICCU had caused failure in the 12V battery of Hyundai, Kia and Genesis EV cars which necessitated recalls.? .......

https://insideevs.com/news/752720/ev-12-vol...ttery-problems/ - The big, expensive batteries are dead reliable. It's the puny 12-volts that are causing problems. - 6 March 2025
.... Issues with 12-volt batteries are clear in Consumer Reports' reliability data, Elek said. While the firm couldn't confirm whether 12-volt problems are more common with EVs, it has data showing them as consistent trouble spots for EVs like the Hyundai Ioniq 5, Kia EV6, Rivian R1S and Rivian R1T. Forums for any of those brands support the issue.

Hyundai, Kia and Genesis have all had to recall EVs due to issues with the system that charges the 12-volt battery. ...

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It's a fact that the 12V battery directly powers the door sensors plus other accessories when the EV car is switched on and/or parked or being driven = if the 12V battery fails, for whatever reason, it's only logical for the door sensors plus other accessories to also fail.
....... It's the same with our mobile smartphone/tablet being directly powered by its 5V battery, eg powering the screen, speakers, microphones, fingerprint sensor, cameras and their sensors, 4G/5G or Wifi connection, GPS, accelerometer+gyroscope, etc = if the 5V battery fails, all the accessories will also fail.

You believe the TERRIFYING SITUATION in the OP (emergency braking from 100km/h in 6s) was caused by the faulty door sensor only, ie not related to a faulty or failing or weak 12V battery. You likely believe wrong.
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Repeating. Countered.

Yes if you use your critical thinking and common sense, it is also logical that the whole LCD screen all the lights and everything will also fail. Means nothing will turn on. Suddenly only door sensor fail but all the processor , memory , radio system is working .. LOL.
But the LCD screen is still on, the processor is still working. So your logic fail again. Btw there's no 5V battery , I understand similar to the bozo Catholic guy who claims to know electrical systems, you cannot understand what voltage regulated system means.




This post has been edited by Drian: May 29 2025, 10:37 PM

Yes imagine you eBrake when crossing the road and along comes a 12 wheeler at full speed....

... EV drebar & sekeluarga full speed terus ke alam lain. But before the accident, while still trap inside the EV, please unplug the safety switch to the high voltage systems ya. Makasih.

Our roads not billiard tables smooth
Manual lane keeping means i move around in the lane to adjust for camber and road imperfections. Unless you want to replace suspension and wheels regularly.

Agree but I use LKA only for highways.

Ayam car only have CC not ACC with LKA. So I’ll try not to rear end the EV dead stopped in the middle of the highway because of a dead 12V battery.

While ICE drivers like many of us will now avoid travelling behind an EV for obvious safety reasons, I wonder from hereonwards will we see an increase of heavy vehicles rear ending EV on highways onot. Interesting to see what unfolds. 6s cukup tak for a heavy vehicle to do emergency braking ? LOL

I wonder if the white backgournd of the EV plate is also luminous onot.

It's best that EV do not travel on highways when it's dark. Kang mati tengah jalan without hazard lights and cannot get out of vehicle. Terus ke alam lain.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: May 30 2025, 12:09 PM

ev not really for long distance travelling anyways, witness the story of the tesla model s driver whose battery almost KO because he was using it to drive from KL to hometown in Batu Pahat.

What happened to the Tesla Model S ?

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: May 30 2025, 01:06 PM

[quote=dickybird,May 30 2025, 02:03 PM]ev not really for long distance travelling anyways, witness the story of the tesla model s driver whose battery almost KO because he was using it to drive from KL to hometown in Batu Pahat.

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Drove from Ampang to gelang patah and jpo. 100% - 17%. Soc. Max cruising speed 130kmh avg in total 88kmh.



This post has been edited by nabielz: May 30 2025, 01:15 PM

[quote=nabielz,May 30 2025, 01:13 PM]
[quote=dickybird,May 30 2025, 02:03 PM]ev not really for long distance travelling anyways, witness the story of the tesla model s driver whose battery almost KO because he was using it to drive from KL to hometown in Batu Pahat.

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Drove from Ampang to gelang patah and jpo. 100% - 17%. Soc. Max cruising speed 130kmh avg in total 88kmh.



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the guy was doing it quite regularly, his battery was gg within 2 year iirc
check back again in 18-24 months with your battery health

gg his car
ludah lo
whats even more hilarious the EV plotekkers plotek
lol

This post has been edited by dickybird: May 30 2025, 01:21 PM