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post May 23 2025, 01:49 AM, updated 7 months ago

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1st batch SUV EV owner already sold Omoda , Neeta X 500 , Atto 3 .
can get low below RM 90k

meanwhile new EV cant sold below RM 100k . but secondhand EV can sold below RM 90k
Omoda E5 got 8 years warranty / 160,000km
Neeta X 500 got 5 years warranty / 150,000km
byd atto 3 got 6 years warranty / 150,000km

manufacture cant survive like this
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post May 23 2025, 01:50 AM

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post May 23 2025, 01:52 AM

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Topup sikit can get new one already

Not that big discount

Just overpriced in the beginning lmao putting on so much margin taking advantage of the tax free to make more money instead of really pricing competitively to push adoption

Half baked govt policy that caused this

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post May 23 2025, 01:53 AM

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Normal la. Car drive out of showroom instant drop 25% in value.

Unless is Myvi or Bezza.
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post May 23 2025, 02:49 AM

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This one not EV. New price back in 2023 was more than rm170k also

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Either way the EV or this Peugeot, u no buy used u rugi, warranty still got so many years left

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 23 2025, 02:49 AM)
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This one not EV. New price back in 2023 was more than rm170k also

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Either way the EV or this Peugeot, u no buy used u rugi, warranty still got so many years left
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Waiting to see pijot EV resale value. I think will be super interesting lol.
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post May 23 2025, 06:23 AM

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EU die leow lar! This is the way you can sell below the minimum pricing non-tariff barrier. Sell new EV at >RM100k to carrot head first, then help them sell below RM100k for 2nd hand via distributor/manufacturer subsidy when they upgrade to a new >RM100k EV car.

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post May 23 2025, 06:38 AM

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So conclusion EV second hand value still good?
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post May 23 2025, 06:47 AM

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Ev memang takda rv

Siapa beli dia rugi
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post May 23 2025, 06:55 AM

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Many ppl buat bodoh atau purposely ignore that the battery price drop a lot since early last year.
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post May 23 2025, 06:58 AM

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When oil price go sky high & petrol depleted. You will change to EV anyway.. all petrol car will become antique in 15 years time from now.
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post May 23 2025, 07:09 AM

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QUOTE(danielmckey @ May 23 2025, 06:58 AM)
When oil price go sky high & petrol depleted. You will change to EV anyway.. all petrol car will become antique in 15 years time from now.
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Past = ICE
Present = ICE, EV
Future = ICE, EV, Hydrogen

ICE will remain forever
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post May 23 2025, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 23 2025, 01:49 AM)
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1st batch SUV EV owner already sold Omoda , Neeta X 500 , Atto 3 .
can get low below RM 90k

meanwhile new EV cant sold below RM 100k . but secondhand EV can sold below RM 90k
Omoda E5 got 8 years warranty / 160,000km
Neeta X 500 got 5 years warranty / 150,000km
byd atto 3 got 6 years warranty / 150,000km

manufacture cant survive like this
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If buy new Peugeot when you keluar showroom second hand price also like that
New Eclass Hybird also
2018 330e cheaper than Myvi now

TS first time keluar gua kah

Want keep your car value, better naik MRT, low emission or buy gold
buy car aim for second hand value for fucks meh

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post May 23 2025, 07:35 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ May 23 2025, 06:38 AM)
So conclusion EV second hand value still good?
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depends on brands
Tesla barely dropped so much
even got used stock straight snapped up
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post May 23 2025, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(knwong @ May 23 2025, 07:09 AM)
Past = ICE
Present = ICE, EV
Future = ICE, EV, Hydrogen

ICE will remain forever
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Hybrid oso.people are saying hybrid no resale clue too but hybrid Toyota and Honda since 2013 still going strong.
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in caina, even corolla from 130k rmb drop till below 80k rmb new car price.

ice ev phev, as long as u face enough competition, you will drop price
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only certain type limited brain function people buy these cars
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post May 23 2025, 07:47 AM

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U want to buy new car with super amazing resale value u buy a axia

Go and see resale price vs buy new u know what im talking about

But the question is do u want to drive an axia ?
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post May 23 2025, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 23 2025, 02:49 AM)
Apa beza

This one not EV. New price back in 2023 was more than rm170k also

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Either way the EV or this Peugeot, u no buy used u rugi, warranty still got so many years left
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Fuhhh.... Like tis underwear also loss
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ May 23 2025, 06:58 AM)
When oil price go sky high & petrol depleted. You will change to EV anyway.. all petrol car will become antique in 15 years time from now.
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Oil will never be depleted in the way you think it is going to happen. Its just a scam to make you think oil is a scarce commodity and keep the prices higher than what its worth.

Anyways, EVs will replace ice for sure but it’s not because of the end of oil. It’s just a natural progression. Like how we moved away from coal trains to electric trains. Coal is still there but its just not used as much anymore.
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 23 2025, 01:49 AM)
1st batch SUV EV owner already sold Omoda , Neeta X 500 , Atto 3 .
can get low below RM 90k

meanwhile new EV cant sold below RM 100k . but secondhand EV can sold below RM 90k
Omoda E5 got 8 years warranty / 160,000km
Neeta X 500 got 5 years warranty / 150,000km
byd atto 3 got 6 years warranty / 150,000km

manufacture cant survive like this
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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ May 23 2025, 01:53 AM)
Normal la. Car drive out of showroom instant drop 25% in value.

Unless is Myvi or Bezza.
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wait till u see this one

3 years already dropped more than 50%

brand new EQB was rm330K

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post May 23 2025, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(s@ni @ May 23 2025, 07:39 AM)
Hybrid oso.people are saying hybrid no resale clue too but hybrid Toyota and Honda since 2013 still going strong.
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In its core hybrid is an ICE. Not a new category
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 23 2025, 02:49 AM)
Apa beza

This one not EV. New price back in 2023 was more than rm170k also

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Either way the EV or this Peugeot, u no buy used u rugi, warranty still got so many years left
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Can give example of Toyota and Honda resale value?

How much used civic is selling now?
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Another EV bashing thread 😜
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 23 2025, 07:55 AM)
wait till u see this one

3 years already dropped more than 50%

brand new EQB was rm330K

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Finally.. Mercedes that I can afford

But it’s EV sad.gif
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 23 2025, 07:55 AM)
wait till u see this one

3 years already dropped more than 50%

brand new EQB was rm330K

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Because MB EV are trash.
When your product is good = OH THAT IS THE FUTURE
When your product are trash = EV IS NOT THE FUTURE

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 23 2025, 07:55 AM)
wait till u see this one

3 years already dropped more than 50%

brand new EQB was rm330K

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Mercedes EV baterries are quite problematic, they tend catch fire and explode. That is why the price dropped a lot.

Those who buys is like sitting in a ticking time bomb.
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Got some ktard say considering Honda eN1 cuz Honda must have resale value wor

True ka laugh.gif
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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 23 2025, 07:57 AM)
Another EV bashing thread 😜
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Not bashing, but sharing the reality of it.


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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 23 2025, 08:08 AM)
Got some ktard say considering Honda eN1 cuz Honda must have resale value wor

True ka laugh.gif
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Let’s wait and see. The price also already overpriced. Maybe it will dead on arrival expect for those Honda fanboys…
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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 23 2025, 07:58 AM)
Finally.. Mercedes that I can afford

But it’s EV sad.gif
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not that bad actually. but dont let the badge deceive you. go test drive first lah

but I just fking hate the location of the gearstick, this one e.mas follow liddis

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AND THE FKING PEDAL feels kinda cheapo tbh. conti cars supposed not to be liddis

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post May 23 2025, 08:25 AM

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say saupei

but TS shopping for used EV?
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post May 23 2025, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 23 2025, 07:55 AM)
wait till u see this one

3 years already dropped more than 50%

brand new EQB was rm330K

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Because this is shit EV and Conti is always depreciate in value fast.

I bought my BMW used in Germany also like that. 2 years old half the price of new car.
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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ May 23 2025, 08:34 AM)
Because this is shit EV and Conti is always depreciate in value fast.

I bought my BMW used in Germany also like that. 2 years old half the price of new car.
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there are certain conti cars that hold value well. like the M series. but the rest u know i know enough lah
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waiting for more tesla in 2nd hand market.
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QUOTE(mick84 @ May 23 2025, 08:36 AM)
waiting for more tesla in 2nd hand market.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 23 2025, 08:41 AM)
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Those are imported Tesla.
Waiting Malaysia model 3 on sale
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QUOTE(noien @ May 23 2025, 08:47 AM)
Those are imported Tesla.
Waiting Malaysia model 3 on sale
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so if cbu one can sell for rm20K now?
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so if cbu one can sell for rm20K now?
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Malaysia Version as if those around 2023 end /2024
140k mostly but got snatch easily
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actually some i see used 1 or 2 years sell, is it because problematic?

if 4 years and above i understand maybe nearing warranty and owner get bored of it already.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 23 2025, 08:11 AM)
not that bad actually. but dont let the badge deceive you. go test drive first lah

but I just fking hate the location of the gearstick, this one e.mas follow liddis

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AND THE FKING PEDAL feels kinda cheapo tbh. conti cars supposed not to be liddis

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The gear stick has been there for many years already

First timer i also konpius how to use laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
But it's easy to pickup lar
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QUOTE(noien @ May 23 2025, 08:47 AM)
Those are imported Tesla.
Waiting Malaysia model 3 on sale
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Got
RM153k for STD and RM180k for LR
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QUOTE(submergedx @ May 23 2025, 09:28 AM)
The gear stick has been there for many years already

First timer i also konpius how to use  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
But it's easy to pickup lar
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traditionalist like me gonna take some time on the location of the stick

maybe in nearest future, wanna change gear also need to use touch screen

annoying as F
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Neta 5 months warranty also don't know can get or not
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 23 2025, 09:30 AM)
traditionalist like me gonna take some time on the location of the stick

maybe in nearest future, wanna change gear also need to use touch screen

annoying as F
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Tesla change gear by using screen eh laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
And it has latest software update, no need switch gears while parking anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y17bivClqY8

O WAIT
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QUOTE(noien @ May 23 2025, 08:47 AM)
Those are imported Tesla.
Waiting Malaysia model 3 on sale
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fren sold jul 2024 ar LR model @ 160k
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QUOTE(katijar @ May 23 2025, 06:47 AM)
Ev memang takda rv

Siapa beli dia rugi
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ICE rv strong meh ....both also LPPL laa .....
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QUOTE(submergedx @ May 23 2025, 09:34 AM)
Tesla change gear by using screen eh  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
And it has latest software update, no need switch gears while parking anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y17bivClqY8

O WAIT
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so if can use voice command, what will happen if someone says forward, not the driver himself?
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ May 23 2025, 06:58 AM)
When oil price go sky high & petrol depleted. You will change to EV anyway.. all petrol car will become antique in 15 years time from now.
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not gonna happen

oil is getting replenish by mother nature deep inside earth faster than human consumption is a fact
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QUOTE(submergedx @ May 23 2025, 09:30 AM)
Got
RM153k for STD and RM180k for LR
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Wah. This price also good
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QUOTE(adri4n @ May 23 2025, 09:34 AM)
fren sold jul 2024 ar LR model @ 160k
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Damn miss this
How long he takes to sell it?
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 23 2025, 07:09 AM)
Past = ICE
Present = ICE, EV
Future = ICE, EV, Hydrogen

ICE will remain forever
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QUOTE(saiga @ May 23 2025, 05:21 AM)
Waiting to see pijot EV resale value. I think will be super interesting lol.
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Mine after 12 years sold for 3k mia.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 23 2025, 09:37 AM)


so if can use voice command, what will happen if someone says forward, not the driver himself?
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Still need to pijak the pedal to move
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 23 2025, 01:49 AM)
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1st batch SUV EV owner already sold Omoda , Neeta X 500 , Atto 3 .
can get low below RM 90k

meanwhile new EV cant sold below RM 100k . but secondhand EV can sold below RM 90k
Omoda E5 got 8 years warranty / 160,000km
Neeta X 500 got 5 years warranty / 150,000km
byd atto 3 got 6 years warranty / 150,000km

manufacture cant survive like this
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So technically is pre-reg 15k cars.... And boom 3 months later, old car sell for 90k?

Did I understand your technique correctly.



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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 23 2025, 07:55 AM)
wait till u see this one

3 years already dropped more than 50%

brand new EQB was rm330K

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Take this listing with a pinch of salt. Second hand car dealers are known to list ridiculous prices but when you actually go there to buy, they’ll mark up by about 20%
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QUOTE(poco loco @ May 23 2025, 03:58 AM)
car fliping pipu problem
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got to agree with u bro.. minority problem.
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 23 2025, 09:50 AM)
Still need to pijak the pedal to move
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From the last update, it has been working like a charm. Almost no mistakes at all at guessing which direction i want to go in.
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 23 2025, 01:49 AM)
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1st batch SUV EV owner already sold Omoda , Neeta X 500 , Atto 3 .
can get low below RM 90k

meanwhile new EV cant sold below RM 100k . but secondhand EV can sold below RM 90k
Omoda E5 got 8 years warranty / 160,000km
Neeta X 500 got 5 years warranty / 150,000km
byd atto 3 got 6 years warranty / 150,000km

manufacture cant survive like this
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When new car price slash down, logically used car sure drop as well, year 2023 atto 3 selling at RM167k, now new car baru sell RM120k.

BMW IX2 price is even worse, new car RM297k launch at year 2024, now after one year i saw got people selling at RM190k, that is like 1/3 depreciation rate.

QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 23 2025, 08:11 AM)
not that bad actually. but dont let the badge deceive you. go test drive first lah

but I just fking hate the location of the gearstick, this one e.mas follow liddis

user posted image

AND THE FKING PEDAL feels kinda cheapo tbh. conti cars supposed not to be liddis

user posted image
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I'm kinda used to it already with the gearstick

That day i sit on my friend's IX2, i felt china EV built quality is ahead of germany car.
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QUOTE(mick84 @ May 23 2025, 08:36 AM)
waiting for more tesla in 2nd hand market.
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Wait for Cyberster 2nd hand drop under RM150k

3.2s 0-100, softtop and got electric scissor doors, amoi wet their pantsu
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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 23 2025, 10:01 AM)
When new car price slash down, logically used car sure drop as well, year 2023 atto 3 selling at RM167k, now new car baru sell RM120k.

BMW IX2 price is even worse, new car RM297k launch at year 2024, now after one year i saw got people selling at RM190k, that is like 1/3 depreciation rate.
I'm kinda used to it already with the gearstick

That day i sit on my friend's IX2, i felt china EV built quality is ahead of germany car.
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the interior looks ok to me

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actually Malaysian mindset got big problem.

buy daily use item but think about RV.

not buy and use until throw? then what point is RV?
why buy and thinking when sell? flip purchase?
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Just buy one and enjoy that EV.
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simedarby auto selection car good ?
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Wait for Cyberster 2nd hand drop under RM150k

3.2s 0-100, softtop and got electric scissor doors, amoi wet their pantsu
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Wait until under 200k can buy

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not that bad actually. but dont let the badge deceive you. go test drive first lah

but I just fking hate the location of the gearstick, this one e.mas follow liddis

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Column shifter bagus. Coupled with e-parking brake or foot brake, frees up the centre console, easier to brows.gif
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 23 2025, 10:06 AM)
the interior looks ok to me

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Then the noise level is quite high even it is EV, handling for BMW still at top notch.

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Wait until under 200k can buy
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Ya, lotus very cool and intimidating SUV too.

If 50% discount while still have long warranty, sure can get amois
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the side door very plastic feel sweat.gif

Then the noise level is quite high even it is EV, handling for BMW still at top notch.
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Ya, lotus very cool and intimidating SUV too.

If 50% discount while still have long warranty, sure can get amois
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if u rent tesla car also can get chicks already

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Ya, lotus very cool and intimidating SUV too.

If 50% discount while still have long warranty, sure can get amois
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/k say ev one year lose 50%
Where is 50% off eletre, oredi out for 2 years
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Why look to 2nd hand EV? You believe local foreman workshop can fix for you ar?
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 23 2025, 10:24 AM)
I am more concern about the handling stuff. bmw cars these days punya steering dem light. electric steering liddat one lah what to do.
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electric power steering about the same, but u can feel from the cornering and high speed swerve
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Past = ICE
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U wait Sodium ion solid state battery charge 5 minutes can go 10000km see how ICE car die.
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RV for all cars are entering into uncharted territories la dei..
Influx of supply from China (cheap cars), with long warranties and competitive packages, good luck to all legacy car makers to maintain their selling price, and second hand car RV.
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wait till u see this one

3 years already dropped more than 50%

brand new EQB was rm330K

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impossible, EV is the only future.
U wait Sodium ion solid state battery charge 5 minutes can go 10000km see how ICE car die.
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Future future, methanol
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or B100 using palm oil
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Got
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EV owner don't actually care about RV. Only those poorfag who still drive 10 years old ICE cares.

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seee this price, that service charge another 30k
so same price as new
better buy new
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tak mampu la beli mahal2 ni

mana motosikal EV?
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BYD China seriously overcapacity until their port also
Almost wanna letup already…

No that hard to see that’s coming right?
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EV manufacturers dont care. They just want to offload their excess stocks which is pilling up in their yards.

Yes they can give massive discounts for it and when the losses are too heavy and stocks can't be offloaded anymore, they will just simply exit the market.
Most of them are new brands and unheard off. They can just close the company and open another new one later one will new offerings if they still have the capability to do so.
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QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ May 23 2025, 11:14 AM)
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mana motosikal EV?
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this is secondhand dealer price.... when dealer makan from the owner...i believe the value lost more than that....
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To be frank with you, most of these used units of EVs are the manufacturers own used units, preregisterd units (to meet targets), test drive units, company staff use units being sold by their own authorized dealers. Outside car dealers like us rarely can get EVs traded in because customers usually cannot bear / cope with the on paper losses. For Chinese cars and EVs, most of the loan amounts are higher than the trade in value so many customers have to top up to sell their cars and hence very hard to deal.

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EV manufacturers dont care. They just want to offload their excess stocks which is pilling up in their yards.

Yes they can give massive discounts for it and when the losses are too heavy and stocks can't be offloaded anymore, they will just simply exit the market.
Most of them are new brands and unheard off. They can just close the company and open another new one later one will new offerings if they still have the capability to do so.
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please name 3 new and unheard off brand from CCP land
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please name 3 new and unheard off brand from CCP land
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Here is 9.
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Except for Yuanhang Auto , the other 8 all very well known what
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kecian need to dig out 2023 article
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Except for Yuanhang Auto , the other 8 all very well known what
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Except for Yuanhang Auto , the other 8 all very well known what
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Then hydrogen add co2
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EV is the future. Powered with electric motor enables precision handling by software for auto driving. Analog ICE, H2 engine is harder to control, compared to ready to use energy from battery.

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Electrolysis hydrogen

Then hydrogen add co2
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Electrolysis power from where? No difference from FCEV
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Electrolysis power from where? No difference from FCEV
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Fcev is pump hydrogen gas..


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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ May 23 2025, 12:05 PM)
Nio, Li Auto is quite famous leh

They didn't enter Malaysia doesn't mean they are not famous in China, u live in gua?
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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 23 2025, 12:53 PM)
Nio, Li Auto is quite famous leh

They didn't enter Malaysia doesn't mean they are not famous in China, u live in gua?
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Article is not written by me. You dont know how to read?

China is China. This is Malaysia. And we are discussing about Malaysians in this thread.

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mana zeekr second hand 90k?
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ May 23 2025, 10:12 AM)
actually Malaysian mindset got big problem.

buy daily use item but think about RV.

not buy and use until throw? then what point is RV?
why buy and thinking when sell? flip purchase?
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People use RV as a scale because they buy cars using long loan tenures. If capped at max 3 years, then ok.
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legit? i check tesla official website LR i think 200k +
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ May 23 2025, 10:12 AM)
actually Malaysian mindset got big problem.

buy daily use item but think about RV.

not buy and use until throw? then what point is RV?
why buy and thinking when sell? flip purchase?
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That's why Perodua are thriving

jgn persoal bagi you tau
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Many ppl buat bodoh atau purposely ignore that the battery price drop a lot since early last year.
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ May 23 2025, 06:58 AM)
When oil price go sky high & petrol depleted. You will change to EV anyway.. all petrol car will become antique in 15 years time from now.
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Final Nail to ICE.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ May 23 2025, 01:25 PM)
Article is not written by me. You dont know how to read?

China is China. This is Malaysia.  And we are discussing about Malaysians in this thread.
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China car sales is about world market 30-35%, if one cannot survive at China, what make u think they can survive in Malaysia? U think Malaysia consumer so stupid? Even MG can sell well a Thailand but struggle at Malaysia market.


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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 23 2025, 02:49 AM)
Apa beza

This one not EV. New price back in 2023 was more than rm170k also
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Either way the EV or this Peugeot, u no buy used u rugi, warranty still got so many years left
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Pijot?
Everyday dating with tow truck?
Bottomless money pit or not?
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Pijot?
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Bottomless money pit or not?
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New model manada everyday. Mungkin once every 8-10 month. Old model once every 2-3 month

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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 23 2025, 02:50 PM)
China car sales is about world market 30-35%, if one cannot survive at China, what make u think they can survive in Malaysia? U think Malaysia consumer so stupid? Even MG can sell well a Thailand but struggle at Malaysia market.
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https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...nas-auto-market

Even dealers in China cannot survive now. Malaysian market is a dumpsite for them to dump their excess stocks and hence you see the huge discounts.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 23 2025, 02:49 AM)
Apa beza

This one not EV. New price back in 2023 was more than rm170k also

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Either way the EV or this Peugeot, u no buy used u rugi, warranty still got so many years left
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ICE company make EV . just create new division for EV .
sales bad ? just jual or closed down EV division.
Company still survive.

but EV car maker . sales bad ? drag the whole brand down.
it will start with Neeta EV first.
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So conclusion EV second hand value still good?
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say saupei

but TS shopping for used EV?
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pusing dalam bandar can la.
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 23 2025, 01:49 AM)
user posted image

user posted image

1st batch SUV EV owner already sold Omoda , Neeta X 500 , Atto 3 .
can get low below RM 90k

meanwhile new EV cant sold below RM 100k . but secondhand EV can sold below RM 90k
Omoda E5 got 8 years warranty / 160,000km
Neeta X 500 got 5 years warranty / 150,000km
byd atto 3 got 6 years warranty / 150,000km

manufacture cant survive like this
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Same goes to All Volvo model, thanks for adding battery pack on the car for powering it
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2025 109k? Wot?
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There is another listing similar white tyre but year is 2022. Same price. Haha
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EV bisnes should be expanded. Lingkup all the minyak stesen operator and Petronas.



Clean energy vs oil fossils. Petronas better change bisnes don't rely on minyak, let Saudi control and deliver while you go for sun energy and nuclear if diizinkan.
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QUOTE(fu'house @ May 24 2025, 10:42 AM)
EV bisnes should be expanded. Lingkup all the minyak stesen operator and Petronas.
Clean energy vs oil fossils. Petronas better change bisnes don't rely on minyak, let Saudi control and deliver while you go for sun energy and nuclear if diizinkan.
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Not sure you're trolling or not. Malaysia electricity not that green. Less than 10%. Only way to increase this to meet NETR is nuclear, hence the last week visit by Ministry to France.

Also, for transport car+bike use the less fossil fuel. Majority from commercial and industrial la (planes, lorries, ship).

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A lot in K sembang kencang. Ron 95 if no subsidi naik extra rm1 per liter. Just pay la. Unker every month use 350 liters. So extra 350/month if no subsidi.

Much cheaper than spend 100K for an EV car.

Unless you mmg takde car and EV is your first car then go ahead.


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QUOTE(saiga @ May 24 2025, 11:45 AM)
A lot in K sembang kencang. Ron 95 if no subsidi naik extra rm1 per liter. Just pay la. Unker every month use 350 liters. So extra 350/month if no subsidi.

Much cheaper than spend 100K for an EV car.

Unless you mmg takde car and EV is your first car then go ahead.
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Yup... much much cheaper than buying a new EV for the sake of 'running' away from RON95 price increase. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(saiga @ May 24 2025, 11:40 AM)
Not sure you're trolling or not. Malaysia electricity not that green. Less than 10%. Only way to increase this to meet NETR is nuclear, hence the last week visit by Ministry to France.

Also, for transport car+bike use the less fossil fuel. Majority from commercial and industrial la (planes, lorries, ship).
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Nice strawman keep trolling gas station operator.


Build a nuclear plant beside your gas station lah.
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QUOTE(saiga @ May 24 2025, 11:45 AM)
A lot in K sembang kencang. Ron 95 if no subsidi naik extra rm1 per liter. Just pay la. Unker every month use 350 liters. So extra 350/month if no subsidi.

Much cheaper than spend 100K for an EV car.

Unless you mmg takde car and EV is your first car then go ahead.
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no marney no need say, got marney buy jer tesla and enjoy

never driven one go try it..the acceleration so syiok
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 24 2025, 04:31 PM)
no marney no need say, got marney buy jer tesla and enjoy

never driven one go try it..the acceleration so syiok
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Yes, acceleration so syiok until so many road accidents, .......

- 車ç¦çއé™é™é ˜å…ˆäºŽåŒè¡Œï¼Œå¤©å¤©å¾€ç¶ åŒ–帶上撞,å°ç±³æ±½è»Šç²å°"綠化帶戰神"稱號 | è™›å‡å®£å‚³æŠŠç”¨æˆ¶ç•¶å‚»å­ï¼Œä¸Šåƒå車主維權退車,雷è»äººè¨­å´©å¡Œ = The accident rate is far ahead of its peers. Xiaomi cars crash into green belts every day. Xiaomi cars are named "Green Belt God of War" | False propaganda treats users as fools. Thousands of car owners return their cars for rights protection. Lei Jun's personality collapses - 15 May 2025
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CCP EV warranty just for syok sendiri. Maybe next year already no more in Malaysia.
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Next year u will repeat the same statement again whistling.gif

QUOTE(keyser soze @ May 24 2025, 05:40 PM)
CCP EV warranty just for syok sendiri. Maybe next year already no more in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 24 2025, 05:35 PM)
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Yes, acceleration so syiok until so many road accidents, .......

- 車ç¦çއé™é™é ˜å…ˆäºŽåŒè¡Œï¼Œå¤©å¤©å¾€ç¶ åŒ–帶上撞,å°ç±³æ±½è»Šç²å°"綠化帶戰神"稱號 | è™›å‡å®£å‚³æŠŠç”¨æˆ¶ç•¶å‚»å­ï¼Œä¸Šåƒå車主維權退車,雷è»äººè¨­å´©å¡Œ =  The accident rate is far ahead of its peers. Xiaomi cars crash into green belts every day. Xiaomi cars are named "Green Belt God of War"  | False propaganda treats users as fools. Thousands of car owners return their cars for rights protection. Lei Jun's personality collapses - 15 May 2025
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This one give idiot ride a bicycle also can crash hahaha
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Nice strawman keep trolling gas station operator.
Build a nuclear plant beside your gas station lah.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 24 2025, 05:35 PM)
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Yes, acceleration so syiok until so many road accidents, .......

- 車ç¦çއé™é™é ˜å…ˆäºŽåŒè¡Œï¼Œå¤©å¤©å¾€ç¶ åŒ–帶上撞,å°ç±³æ±½è»Šç²å°"綠化帶戰神"稱號 | è™›å‡å®£å‚³æŠŠç”¨æˆ¶ç•¶å‚»å­ï¼Œä¸Šåƒå車主維權退車,雷è»äººè¨­å´©å¡Œ =  The accident rate is far ahead of its peers. Xiaomi cars crash into green belts every day. Xiaomi cars are named "Green Belt God of War"  | False propaganda treats users as fools. Thousands of car owners return their cars for rights protection. Lei Jun's personality collapses - 15 May 2025
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 24 2025, 04:31 PM)
no marney no need say, got marney buy jer tesla and enjoy

never driven one go try it..the acceleration so syiok
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Unker old la. Already sat inside Tesla and current BYD lineup.
Tesla dashboard damn boring, also steering feel not nice also.
Even my 15 years old son give the same feedback.

Byd interior not bad, but kenot tahan the dashboard screen. Wadehek just put one rectangular screen and that's it.

Lagi enjoy looking at my conti analogue dials with the armies of button lol.

But will give Denza Z9 GT a try if come to Malaysia one day.
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Dun worry at the rate they throw discount will be cheaper than used car value
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QUOTE(saiga @ May 24 2025, 07:52 PM)
Unker old la. Already sat inside Tesla and current BYD lineup.
Tesla dashboard damn boring, also steering feel not nice also.
Even my 15 years old son give the same feedback.

Byd interior not bad, but kenot tahan the dashboard screen. Wadehek just put one rectangular screen and that's it.

Lagi enjoy looking at my conti analogue dials with the armies of button lol.

But will give Denza Z9 GT a try if come to Malaysia one day.
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different kind of driving experience leh..also diferrent way of making cars

but step on the pedal feel the surge also syiok lor..give some excitement hahaha

not rich to buy ferrari ev the closest to feel force push us into the chair
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ May 23 2025, 11:23 AM)
To be frank with you, most of these used units of EVs are the manufacturers own used units, preregisterd units (to meet targets), test drive units, company staff use units being sold by their own authorized dealers. Outside car dealers like us rarely can get thedr EVs traded in because customers usually cannot bear / cope with the on paper losses. For Chinese cars and EVs, most of the loan amounts are higher than the trade in value so many customers have to top up to sell their cars and hence very hard to deal.
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That bad?
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That bad?
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Most dealers don’t even want to take EVs. A friend has to sell his 2 year+ byd to distributor for 60% below purchase price because he was moving abroad.
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Better drive saga and buy gold
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QUOTE(saiga @ May 24 2025, 11:45 AM)
A lot in K sembang kencang. Ron 95 if no subsidi naik extra rm1 per liter. Just pay la. Unker every month use 350 liters. So extra 350/month if no subsidi.

Much cheaper than spend 100K for an EV car.

Unless you mmg takde car and EV is your first car then go ahead.
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100k is gov CBU policy at the moment. Next year CKD policy no 100k minimum limit then see what's going to happen. In China, EVs already cheaper than ICEs.

EVs maintenance very, very low lah and nothing much to repair also whereas ICEs now and then will give you a huge repair bill because it has too many moving parts, far costlier than whatever fuel subsidy savings.


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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 24 2025, 03:16 AM)
Really ah.. then those ppl in US do 2k miles roadtrip with their EV they use horse to pull the car ah? Hahaha
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US besar. susah nak live with EV unless range 1000km++
Malaysia KL - Selangor enough already .

but state besar like Kelantan & Johor also can take advantage.
buat macam teksi or bas base on EV.
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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ May 24 2025, 12:16 PM)
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bandar dalam bandar bang.
bukan negeri to negeri.

example like PJ - Shah ALam - KL - Subang jaya

ICE walaupun jimak minyak like myvi / axia
u dont dare drive that car with RM 20 on federal highway.
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QUOTE(Moderna @ May 24 2025, 09:57 PM)
Most dealers don’t even want to take EVs. A friend has to sell his 2 year+ byd to distributor for 60% below purchase price because he was moving abroad.
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logik juga. because as long in warranty still got prices
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 25 2025, 12:42 PM)
US besar. susah nak live with EV unless range 1000km++
Malaysia KL - Selangor enough already .

but state besar like Kelantan & Johor also can take advantage.
buat macam teksi or bas base on EV.
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Why cannot in us, if drive Tesla even easier with access to supercharger
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 25 2025, 12:48 PM)
Why cannot in us, if drive Tesla even easier with access to supercharger
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EV mana boleh drive laju2.
u tekan laju laju cant maintain 20% to 80% charge


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QUOTE(saiga @ May 24 2025, 07:52 PM)
Unker old la. Already sat inside Tesla and current BYD lineup.
Tesla dashboard damn boring, also steering feel not nice also.
Even my 15 years old son give the same feedback.

Byd interior not bad, but kenot tahan the dashboard screen. Wadehek just put one rectangular screen and that's it.

Lagi enjoy looking at my conti analogue dials with the armies of button lol.

But will give Denza Z9 GT a try if come to Malaysia one day.
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citroen GSA win

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 25 2025, 12:52 PM)
EV mana boleh drive laju2.
u tekan laju laju cant maintain 20% to 80% charge
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why want to drive fast on public road? dont get any trophy


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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 25 2025, 01:02 PM)
why want to drive fast on public road? dont get any trophy
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u dont drive slow all the time.
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 25 2025, 01:06 PM)
u dont drive slow all the time.
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need to define what is slow, fast and excessive speed, like i dont drive 80km/h fly thru taman and i dont drive 180km/h on highway..these are excessive speeding and risking own life and others


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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 25 2025, 01:14 PM)
need to define what is slow, fast and excessive speed, like i dont drive 80km/h fly thru taman and i dont drive 180km/h on highway..these are excessive speeding and risking own life and others
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u drive on federal highway what speed?
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 25 2025, 01:26 PM)
u drive on federal highway what speed?
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Highway I drive the speed limit or below that only.. for safety of me my family and other road user.. it's not a race it's just I'm going somewhere

Using speed as a factor in ev just show the poor mentality drivers here, selfish and irresponsible
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 25 2025, 01:46 PM)
Highway I drive the speed limit or below that only.. for safety of me my family and other road user.. it's not a race it's just I'm going somewhere

Using speed as a factor in ev just show the poor mentality drivers here, selfish and irresponsible
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EV dont have problem in city except range issues.
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ May 23 2025, 06:38 AM)
So conclusion EV second hand value still good?
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Conclusion EV owners are fedap with with EV the sold within warranty period taking big financial hot. Via ts got a good look for EV market.
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 25 2025, 02:18 PM)
EV dont have problem in city except range issues.
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in city driving EV most effcient, even on highway if drive like a ahole do 180km/h even a petrol car mileage will be poor..difference is fuel is cheapo and can refill in 3min so don't feel impact on pocket and time

And when ppl say EV can't drive fast must drive slow save battery..cannot charge full lah this that..ppl do the same in a ice car.. drive 5am morning not many cars less stopping uses less fuel.. drive highway at constant 90km/h give better mileage.. even pump in morning fuel is denser get more.. many ritual too
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 25 2025, 12:44 PM)
bandar dalam bandar bang.
bukan negeri to negeri.

example like PJ - Shah ALam - KL - Subang jaya

ICE walaupun jimak minyak like myvi / axia
u dont dare drive that car with RM 20 on federal highway.
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u said Pusing dalam bandar can lar for EV, go outstation also can mah

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 25 2025, 12:52 PM)
EV mana boleh drive laju2.
u tekan laju laju cant maintain 20% to 80% charge
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Consider slow to your standard?
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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ May 25 2025, 03:34 PM)
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Consider slow to your standard?
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Senai to Malaysia u need charge again.

30% to 100% how long need wait ?



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Senai to Malaysia u need charge again.

30% to 100% how long need wait ?
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 25 2025, 03:07 PM)
in city driving EV most effcient, even on highway if drive like a ahole do 180km/h even a petrol car mileage will be poor..difference is fuel is cheapo and can refill in 3min so don't feel impact on pocket and time

And when ppl say EV can't drive fast must drive slow save battery..cannot charge full lah this that..ppl do the same in a ice car.. drive 5am morning not many cars less stopping uses less fuel.. drive highway at constant 90km/h give better mileage.. even pump in morning fuel is denser get more.. many ritual too
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need test on route like this . total 196km

i think EV just need 50% battery to achieve this. no need 100%

ICE like axia / bezza pump RM 20 also cant win.
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ May 24 2025, 05:35 PM)
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Yes, acceleration so syiok until so many road accidents, .......

- 車ç¦çއé™é™é ˜å…ˆäºŽåŒè¡Œï¼Œå¤©å¤©å¾€ç¶ åŒ–帶上撞,å°ç±³æ±½è»Šç²å°"綠化帶戰神"稱號 | è™›å‡å®£å‚³æŠŠç”¨æˆ¶ç•¶å‚»å­ï¼Œä¸Šåƒå車主維權退車,雷è»äººè¨­å´©å¡Œ =  The accident rate is far ahead of its peers. Xiaomi cars crash into green belts every day. Xiaomi cars are named "Green Belt God of War"  | False propaganda treats users as fools. Thousands of car owners return their cars for rights protection. Lei Jun's personality collapses - 15 May 2025
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 24 2025, 06:03 PM)
This one give idiot ride a bicycle also can crash hahaha
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Typical "victim blaming" by EV lovers - Chainah Numbawan; Xiaomi Numbawan.
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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ May 25 2025, 03:49 PM)
no need headache install solar for EV
just wait 2nd generation EV coming with range 1000km .


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QUOTE((theberry @ Dec 19 2024, 09:51 PM)
LATEST MODEL 2024 all drop price JENG

when malaysia follow?
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selling price                                76,800 rmb
+ assuming insurance                10,000 rmb
- government subsidy                15,000 rmb
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                                                71,800 rmb ~ RM 45k in malaysia
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SOS : government subsidy 15k rmb
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https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202412/1324752.shtml
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Dec 19 2024, 11:16 PM)
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Fyi, .......

https://auto.sina.cn/info/cx/2024-12-17/det...s8914911.d.html - Google Translated: It has enough space, great handling, and can be as cheap as 41,500 yuan. Wouldn’t you like a Toyota Corolla like this? - 17 Dec 2024 = 35% off MSRP or 35% discount.

Even Nissan Sylphy is 33% off MSRP and Honda Civic is 21% off MSRP in CCP China. Why new ICE-V cars all lelong sale.? ...

= because in the 7 Tier-1 cities like Shanghai, buyers of new ICE-V cars have to pay about RMB100k for the license plate fee and wait >6 months for registration. ... In Tier-3 cities, it's about RMB30k and >2 months, respectively.
....... Buyers of new NEV cars are exempted.

On top of that, nearly all used ICE-V cars have to be scrapped bc CCP China just introduced more stringent annual  car inspection (macam by Puspakom/JPJ) for 6 yo or older cars in Jan 2024(.?), in order to purposely fail them or scrap them, eg any failure detection via OBD, eg sensor failure = fail inspection.
....... Used ICE-V cars <6 yo = car inspection every 2 years.

If you are man in China, you dare to buy the above discounted new ICE-V cars.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5500384


QUOTE(trusol @ May 25 2025, 01:10 AM)
100k is gov CBU policy at the moment. Next year CKD policy no 100k minimum limit then see what's going to happen. In China, EVs already cheaper than ICEs.

EVs maintenance very, very low lah and nothing much to repair also whereas ICEs now and then will give you a huge repair bill because it has too many moving parts, far costlier than whatever fuel subsidy savings.
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Not really true that in CCP China, EV cars are cheaper than ICE-V cars. The comparable compact sedan BYD Qin Plus EV price in CCP China is RMB109,800, while the Toyota Corolla 1.5l price in CCP China is RMB75,600, after 35% discount due to poor sales.
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QUOTE(Moderna @ May 24 2025, 09:57 PM)
Most dealers don’t even want to take EVs. A friend has to sell his 2 year+ byd to distributor for 60% below purchase price because he was moving abroad.
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Fyi, .......

https://www.torquenews.com/11826/tesla-resp...-maker-says-one - Tesla Responds to Cybertruck Owners Who Lost 50% of Their Vehicle’s Value in 1 Year – The EV Maker Says, “One More Post Like This and You Will be Getting $0â€
Tesla has responded to Cybertruck owners who have seen a 50% decline in their vehicle's value. The EV maker attempted to humorously address the issue in response to a dedicated Tesla fan who says his Cybertruck lost half its value in a year.
- 8 April 2025

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 25 2025, 04:18 PM)
no need headache install solar for EV
just wait 2nd generation EV coming with range 1000km .
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If there is such EV, I still will opt for 500km range then as less battery, car cheaper, less weight, more efficient.

It's suffice for me 99% of the time
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 25 2025, 04:03 PM)
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need test on route like this .  total 196km

i think EV just need 50% battery to achieve this.  no need 100%

ICE like axia / bezza pump RM 20 also cant win.
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yeapsc73 already show its not a issue..he got data to show it
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 25 2025, 04:07 PM)
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Typical "victim blaming" by EV lovers - Chainah Numbawan; Xiaomi Numbawan.
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in the history of human being, humans has been crashing their vehicle of any type

ferrari these days make cars in 1000hp or can find very light weight cars that have power to weight ratio of a bugatti

these are all fast vehicles. and ppl would crash them if not careful

a powderful ev is not the problem, its actually wonderful can buy ev that powderful for little money all thanks to chainah


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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 25 2025, 12:48 PM)
Why cannot in us, if drive Tesla even easier with access to supercharger
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 25 2025, 01:02 PM)
why want to drive fast on public road? dont get any trophy
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US interstate highway speed limit is 70mph = 112 kmh. Drive EV car at 112 kmh will lose about 25% or more range, esp in cold weather = severe range anxiety. Not so much range anxiety if drive ICE-V car at 112 kmh because BIG fuel tank and gas/petrol stations are much more numerous and nearby than EV charging stations.

Also, pump gas/petrol = about 5 minutes, ...
.... fast charge electric = about 30 minutes.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 25 2025, 04:40 PM)
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US interstate highway speed limit is 70mph = 112 kmh. Drive EV car at 112 kmh will lose about 25% or more range, esp in cold weather = severe range anxiety. Not so much range anxiety if drive ICE-V car at 112 kmh because BIG fuel tank and gas/petrol stations are much more numerous and nearby than EV charging stations.

Also, pump gas/petrol = about 5 minutes, ...
.... fast charge electric = about 30 minutes.
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then go drive a ice car lor what so hard lol

nobody force anyone to buy ev..also you dont need to speak for ev owners hahahaha

ppl dont need you to tell them what and how hahahaha
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ May 24 2025, 05:35 PM)
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Yes, acceleration so syiok until so many road accidents, .......

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in the history of human being, humans has been crashing their vehicle of any type

ferrari these days make cars in 1000hp or can find very light weight cars that have power to weight ratio of a bugatti

these are all fast vehicles. and ppl would crash them if not careful

a powderful ev is not the problem, its actually wonderful can buy ev that powderful for little money all thanks to chainah
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The above video says Porsche, Ferrari, etc spent years and US$ millions in R&D to formulate their powerful sportscars to be reliable and stable for drivers whereas Xiaomi just copy from Porsche and Ferrari and did little R&D in putting out its powerful sportscars = unreliable and unstable for drivers.

It is a well known fact that CCP China EV carmakers mostly copy technology from the West and Japan = did little R&D = they just put out their new EV cars on the market and let the drivers be their R&D guinea pigs.

In this = cutting corners, Chainah Numbawan, eg Xiaomi SU7 sportcars can't corner properly.
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The above video says Porsche, Ferrari, etc spent years and US$ millions in R&D to formulate their powerful sportscars to be reliable and stable for drivers whereas Xiaomi just copy from Porsche and Ferrari and did little R&D  in putting out its powerful sportscars = unreliable and unstable for drivers.

It is a well known fact that CCP China EV carmakers mostly copy technology from the West and Japan = did little R&D = they just put out their new EV cars on the market and let the drivers be their R&D guinea pigs.

In this = cutting corners, Chainah Numbawan, eg Xiaomi SU7 sportcars can't corner properly.
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it shows ppl are stupid and those watch it even more stupid hahaha

there are no such thing, if so f1 drivers wont ever have a crash..f1 have sticky tires and downforce so why still crash

its just human make errors or human drive stupidly the reason car crashes happen
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then go drive a ice car lor what so hard lol

nobody force anyone to buy ev..also you dont need to speak for ev owners hahahaha

ppl dont need you to tell them what and how hahahaha
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In CCP Chainah, most people are forced to buy new EV cars.

In California and 12 other liberal US states, people will be forced to buy new EV cars in 2036. Similarly for the EU.

In the UK, the ZEV Mandate is forcing car-makers to sell more EV cars than ICE-V cars. In 2036, UK people will be forced to buy new EV cars.
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Gemini AI Overview:

The UK's Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) mandate requires car manufacturers to increase the percentage of zero-emission vehicles (EVs) in their sales, with the aim of phasing out the sale of new petrol and diesel cars by 2030 and all new cars and vans by 2035. The mandate targets are increasing each year, starting with 22% in 2024 and rising to 80% by 2030. Hybrid cars are allowed to be sold until 2035, and small-scale carmakers are exempt from the mandate.

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In CCP Chainah, most people are forced to buy new EV cars.

In California and 12 other liberal US states, people will be forced to buy new EV cars in 2036. Similarly for the EU.

In the UK, the ZEV Mandate is forcing car-makers to sell more EV cars than ICE-V cars. In 2036, UK people will be forced to buy new EV cars.
.......

Gemini AI Overview:

The UK's Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) mandate requires car manufacturers to increase the percentage of zero-emission vehicles (EVs) in their sales, with the aim of phasing out the sale of new petrol and diesel cars by 2030 and all new cars and vans by 2035. The mandate targets are increasing each year, starting with 22% in 2024 and rising to 80% by 2030. Hybrid cars are allowed to be sold until 2035, and small-scale carmakers are exempt from the mandate. 

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Lord unker xi didn't force anyone buy ev..like in norway incentives stops yet ppl still buy EV there.. if can pay for fuel and want ice then buy it.. just ppl want EV then they buy it

If want ppl buy EV only so easy just ban all ice cars.. why still allowed then to be sold hahahaha my solution easy even ai cannot think of it hahahahah

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Apa beza

This one not EV. New price back in 2023 was more than rm170k also

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Either way the EV or this Peugeot, u no buy used u rugi, warranty still got so many years left
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How’s BYD warranty policy?

Do they entertain wear and tear like suspension and etc
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Fyi, .......

https://auto.sina.cn/info/cx/2024-12-17/det...s8914911.d.html - Google Translated: It has enough space, great handling, and can be as cheap as 41,500 yuan. Wouldn’t you like a Toyota Corolla like this? - 17 Dec 2024 = 35% off MSRP or 35% discount.

Even Nissan Sylphy is 33% off MSRP and Honda Civic is 21% off MSRP in CCP China. Why new ICE-V cars all lelong sale.? ...

= because in the 7 Tier-1 cities like Shanghai, buyers of new ICE-V cars have to pay about RMB100k for the license plate fee and wait >6 months for registration. ... In Tier-3 cities, it's about RMB30k and >2 months, respectively.
....... Buyers of new NEV cars are exempted.

On top of that, nearly all used ICE-V cars have to be scrapped bc CCP China just introduced more stringent annual  car inspection (macam by Puspakom/JPJ) for 6 yo or older cars in Jan 2024(.?), in order to purposely fail them or scrap them, eg any failure detection via OBD, eg sensor failure = fail inspection.
....... Used ICE-V cars <6 yo = car inspection every 2 years.


If you are man in China, you dare to buy the above discounted new ICE-V cars.
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Lord unker xi didn't force anyone buy ev..like in norway incentives stops yet ppl still buy EV there.. if can pay for fuel and want ice then buy it.. just ppl want EV then they buy it

If want ppl buy EV only so easy just ban all ice cars.. why still allowed then to be sold hahahaha my solution easy even ai cannot think of it hahahahah
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My above repost fyi, ie CCP Chainah forcing EV cars onto the people is mainly by heavily penalizing buyers of new ICE-V cars, not by giving incentiving EV subsidies to buyers of new EV cars.
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It's suffice for me 99% of the time
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this EV come with 150kwh and release date April 25 2024

sebelum ni ET-5 tapi ET-5 ni pecah 3 model :

a) Standard b) Long-Range c) Ultra-Long Range

Ultra Long Range 1000km.

Senang cakap 1000km range dah ada. but not sold in Malaysia.


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In CCP China, BYD seldom honor the above EV warranties by giving all kinds of excuses to the car owners. Sue BYD in court also no use bc to CCP, BYD is "anak saya baik orang nya". Maybe not in Malaysia because CCP China would "no face".
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My above repost fyi, ie CCP Chainah forcing EV cars onto the people is mainly by heavily penalizing buyers of new ICE-V cars, not by giving incentiving EV subsidies to buyers of new EV cars.
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In CCP China, BYD seldom honor the above EV warranties by giving all kinds of excuses to the car owners. Sue BYD in court also no use bc to CCP, BYD is "anak saya baik orang nya". Maybe not in Malaysia because CCP China would "no face".
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Yea, I know the official policy

But realistically as owner, how good is it? Do they play a lot of Taichi when trying to claim?
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We here also penalize ppl with high taxes and force ppl to buy Perodua and proton.. so?
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What about over there in Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines, USA, Canada, the EU, etc, ie they got penalize ICE-V car buyers and reward EV car buyers maciam in CCP Chainah.?
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But realistically as owner, how good is it? Do they play a lot of Taichi when trying to claim?
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Some of us using Atto and Dolphin got steering rack/intermediate shaft knocking noise issue, also got ready stock parts at KL SC. Maybe those accident car only will have abit of issue have to wait a month±
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fuel no subsidy in thailand and by helping ev they import less oil means less money and more money for other things

good thing or not up to a country to decide
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Y2024 E5 98k is it a good buy for an ev in MY?
Kinda tired deal with engine gearbox things
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Y2024 E5 98k is it a good buy for an ev in MY?
Kinda tired deal with engine gearbox things
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Omoda E5?

I found 2024 unit rm83k leh on mudah
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this EV come with 150kwh and  release date April 25 2024

sebelum ni ET-5 tapi ET-5 ni pecah 3 model :

a) Standard  b) Long-Range c) Ultra-Long Range

Ultra Long Range 1000km.

Senang cakap 1000km range dah ada. but not sold in Malaysia.
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The 150kwh model not even sold in china only for battery leasing because battery price crazily expensive. Only idiot will buy
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How you know.. you stay there?
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Don't underestimate him. He got whole archive of all EV incidence/accident for the whole world since 150 years ago
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btw test driven new model y, huge car very comfy and the suspension setup is good for our road condition
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 25 2025, 04:36 PM)
in the history of human being, humans has been crashing their vehicle of any type

ferrari these days make cars in 1000hp or can find very light weight cars that have power to weight ratio of a bugatti

these are all fast vehicles. and ppl would crash them if not careful

a powderful ev is not the problem, its actually wonderful can buy ev that powderful for little money all thanks to chainah
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lol only in malaysia ppl buy cars for resale value....ptuii
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most hardworking anti/hater ever lol

btw test driven new model y, huge car very comfy and the suspension setup is good for our road condition
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Omoda E5?

I found 2024 unit rm83k leh on mudah
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Yes omoda E5.
That one is used right?

I mean brand new but 2024 stock
Any issues so far?
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Yes omoda E5.
That one is used right?

I mean brand new but 2024 stock
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Yes but low mileage below 7k km, seller say can get new car interest rate below 2.2%

Last time got software glitch but mostly updated already. The screen UI english translation is still bad tho, press break to start (instead of brake), and few other china engrish in the menu.


Also the E5 rear legroom quite sempit compared to atto3 or emas7

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Yes but low mileage below 7k km, seller say can get new car interest rate below 2.2%

Last time got software glitch but mostly updated already. The screen UI english translation is still bad tho, press break to start (instead of brake), and few other china engrish in the menu.
Also the E5 rear legroom quite sempit compared to atto3 or emas7
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but my sis taken delivery of hers so i just help put some km on it lol


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The 150kwh model not even sold in china only for battery leasing because battery price crazily expensive. Only idiot will buy
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Itu sebab kereta tu jual kat German.
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Not really true that in CCP China, EV cars are cheaper than ICE-V cars. The comparable compact sedan BYD Qin Plus EV price in CCP China is RMB109,800, while the Toyota Corolla 1.5l price in CCP China is RMB75,600, after 35% discount due to poor sales.
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How many sold in German? Ppl there not stupid as well
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u said stupid because u have MYR . German use Euro.

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used BYD atto 3 di german tengok berapa harga in euro.
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im talking about the 150kwh EV
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In CCP China, BYD seldom honor the above EV warranties by giving all kinds of excuses to the car owners. Sue BYD in court also no use bc to CCP, BYD is "anak saya baik orang nya". Maybe not in Malaysia because CCP China would "no face".
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How you know.. you stay there?
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Fyi, ie real life usage, EV battery degradation of BYD EV cars is often >5% per year, and not <2% per year as hyped by the EV media, .......

Google Translated: The threshold for free battery replacement is high and you want to see the test report.

  Many BYD car owners question whether the "lifetime warranty" service for car batteries is not worthy of its name, and expect the manufacturer to be more transparent about replacement standards and test results. ...

Battery test does not report

  Consumers of family cars will also face the problem of battery capacity decay. Will the battery "warranty" be smooth?

  Mr. Xia, a citizen, told reporters that he bought a BYD "Yuan" pure electric car in March 2020. "The data promoted by the brand at that time was that it could run about 410 kilometers on a single charge." Mr. Xia's new car was actually measured to run about 370 kilometers. Although there is a gap, he can also accept the possible deviation between the experimental data and the measured data. In the past two years, the car's endurance has declined year by year. "Now it can only run about 220 kilometers on the highway and about 280 kilometers on urban roads." Mr. Xia said that when he bought the car, the salesperson said that the vehicle could be replaced for free if it was 100,000 kilometers or more than 6 years old. Since the car has run more than 120,000 kilometers, he came to the BYD 4S store, hoping to replace the battery for free. But the 4S store reported: After inspection by the factory, the battery data is normal and will not be replaced. What confuses Mr. Xia is that everything is "the final say" of the other party. How much has the battery decayed, and to what extent will it be replaced? The 4S store has no clear answer. "Moreover, I asked for a battery test report, but was rejected."

  Mr. Zhou, a citizen, had a similar experience. Mr. Zhou also has a BYD "Yuan" pure electric car, which was purchased in December 2020. Now, the vehicle's mileage has reached more than 120,000 kilometers, and its endurance has dropped significantly. "I drive about 160 kilometers to and from get off work. If I turn around at noon, I will encounter the problem of insufficient power. Now I can only drive about 200 kilometers." He called the BYD customer service hotline and then went to a BYD 4S store for battery testing. The store replied: There is no problem with the test results and it can continue to be used. "I have never been able to get a specific written test report." Mr. Zhou believes that according to the "BYD Auto Three Guarantees Certificate and Maintenance Service Manual", during the three-guarantee validity period of 2 years or 50,000 kilometers, the capacity attenuation limit of lithium iron phosphate batteries/ternary batteries is 15%, and the attenuation limit of 6 years or 150,000 kilometers is 25%. "My car has reached the battery replacement standard." The 4S store replied to the reporter that the battery attenuation data currently detected is less than 25%. ....

https://www.chinanews.com.cn/sh/2024/04-17/10200374.shtml - - Many BYD car owners question whether the "lifetime warranty" service for car batteries is not worthy of its name - 17 April 2024

280km/370km = 24% battery degradation after about 3 years = about 8% degradation per year.

P S - Tesla EV batteries are oversized by about 20%, in order to satisfy US government regulations of 8 years of warranty or about 150,000km mileage.
....... BYD EV car batteries are probably oversized by only 10% = in the 1st year of usage, <2% battery degradation, but thereafter a substantial rise in battery degradation of >5% per year.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=110994493
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fuel no subsidy in thailand and by helping ev they import less oil means less money and more money for other things

good thing or not up to a country to decide
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What about(ism) fuel subsidy in Indonesia, Brunei, Saudi Arabia, IKuwait, Iran, Venezuela, etc,  major crude oil producers like Malaysia.
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We subsidy also give help to ev.. want to buy EV just buy LoR don't want buy then don't buy lor.. nobody forcing you

But buy more imported ice var goodlor.. govt get more money hahaha
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In CCP China, BYD seldom honor the above EV warranties by giving all kinds of excuses to the car owners. Sue BYD in court also no use bc to CCP, BYD is "anak saya baik orang nya". Maybe not in Malaysia because CCP China would "no face".
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 26 2025, 04:19 PM)
Really ah so why didn't sue them until bankrupt yet?
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My repost for your "amnesia".
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 26 2025, 04:26 PM)
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My repost for your "amnesia".
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Then sue them then until bankrupt... Oops too bad byd still selling well hahaha
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battery degradation is depends on charging source. If you every day charge outside with quick DC charger battery sire die faster. Charge at home with 11kwh or lower charger.
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QUOTE(((lurkingaround @ May 25 2025 @ 05:23 PM)
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In CCP China, BYD seldom honor the above EV warranties by giving all kinds of excuses to the car owners. Sue BYD in court also no use bc to CCP, BYD is "anak saya baik orang nya". Maybe not in Malaysia because CCP China would "no face".
QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 26 2025, 04:29 PM)
Then sue them then until bankrupt... Oops too bad byd still selling well hahaha
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In CCP China's kangaroo courts, BYD car owners who sue BYD would likely go bankrupt instead after counter-sued by BYD, .......

https://news.qq.com/rain/a/20250115A08MQ900 - Google Translated: Recently, BYD sued the self-media "Longzhu-JiChe" for defamation, and the court ruled that "Longzhu-JiChe" should compensate BYD 2.0187 million yuan and make a public apology. - 15 Jan 2025
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ May 26 2025, 04:36 PM)
battery degradation is depends on charging source. If you every day charge outside with quick DC charger battery sire die faster. Charge at home with 11kwh or lower charger.
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This is already common knowledge among EV car drivers in CCP China, eg public fast charging fees are often cheaper than slow charging due to much lower demand for fast charging.
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ May 23 2025, 06:58 AM)
When oil price go sky high & petrol depleted. You will change to EV anyway.. all petrol car will become antique in 15 years time from now.
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thats what they have been telling us 20 years ago.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 26 2025, 04:41 PM)
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In CCP China's kangaroo courts, BYD car owners who sue BYD would likely go bankrupt instead after counter-sued by BYD, .......

https://news.qq.com/rain/a/20250115A08MQ900 - Recently, BYD sued the self-media "Longzhu-JiChe" for defamation, and the court ruled that "Longzhu-JiChe" should compensate BYD 2.0187 million yuan and make a public apology.  15 Jan 2025
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Didn't win mah like one woman sue Tesla end up didn't win also.. just show mAh no good evidence and string case how to win hahahaha

Ppl think can be so easy but big corporation got more budget and smarter hahaha
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 26 2025, 04:46 PM)
Didn't win mah like one woman sue Tesla end up didn't win also.. just show mAh no good evidence and string case how to win hahahaha

Ppl think can be so easy but big corporation got more budget and smarter hahaha
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Fyi, ie courts in CCP China mostly do not rely on evidence but on CCP's political agenda, eg to dominate the global car market by hook or by crook with CCP China subsidized EV cars, eg BYD, .......

User: Does the CCP China government control the courts?

Gemini AI Overview

Yes, the CCP exercises significant control over China's courts. This control is exerted through various mechanisms, including the CCP's Central Political and Legal Affairs Commission, which effectively oversees the judicial system.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
- Central Political and Legal Affairs Commission (PLA):
This commission is the CCP's main body for overseeing legal and judicial affairs, ensuring the judiciary operates in accordance with the CCP's political agenda.
- Supreme People's Court (SPC):
As the highest court, the SPC is subject to the control of the PLA, making it a key element in the CCP's judicial oversight.
- CCP Member Judges:
Judges who are also members of the CCP are required to adhere to party discipline, prioritizing the CCP's interests and orders over legal considerations.
- Party Dominance:
The CCP dominates the decision-making process in legal matters, including personnel appointments in all legal institutions, ensuring the CCP's influence throughout the judicial system.
- Political Loyalty:
Judges are expected to prioritize political loyalty over other considerations, potentially compromising their impartiality.
- Use of Law for Suppression:
The CCP uses the legal system to suppress dissent and control citizens, targeting individuals who challenge the government's authority.
- Vague Charges:
Individuals are often arrested and detained on vague charges, without access to legal counsel or communication with their families, further reinforcing the CCP's control.

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 27 2025, 06:01 PM)
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Fyi, ie courts in CCP China mostly do not rely on evidence but on CCP's political agenda, eg to dominate the global car market by hook or by crook with CCP China subsidized EV cars, eg BYD,  .......

User: Does the CCP China government control the courts?

Gemini AI Overview

Yes, the CCP exercises significant control over China's courts. This control is exerted through various mechanisms, including the CCP's Central Political and Legal Affairs Commission, which effectively oversees the judicial system. 

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
- Central Political and Legal Affairs Commission (PLA):
This commission is the CCP's main body for overseeing legal and judicial affairs, ensuring the judiciary operates in accordance with the CCP's political agenda.
- Supreme People's Court (SPC):
As the highest court, the SPC is subject to the control of the PLA, making it a key element in the CCP's judicial oversight.
- CCP Member Judges:
Judges who are also members of the CCP are required to adhere to party discipline, prioritizing the CCP's interests and orders over legal considerations.
- Party Dominance:
The CCP dominates the decision-making process in legal matters, including personnel appointments in all legal institutions, ensuring the CCP's influence throughout the judicial system.
- Political Loyalty:
Judges are expected to prioritize political loyalty over other considerations, potentially compromising their impartiality.
- Use of Law for Suppression:
The CCP uses the legal system to suppress dissent and control citizens, targeting individuals who challenge the government's authority.
- Vague Charges:
Individuals are often arrested and detained on vague charges, without access to legal counsel or communication with their families, further reinforcing the CCP's control. 

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If don't trust court then don't go don't sue them hahahaha
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 27 2025, 06:24 PM)
If don't trust court then don't go don't sue them hahahaha
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Hence, in CCP China and their kangaroo courts, the buying public are mostly treated as tools by the CCP and their "anak saya baik orangnya" like BYD, SAIC, Huawei, Xiaomi, NIO, GWM, XPeng, etc, .......

Gemini AI Overview

The term "leek" (韭èœ) used in China in relation to EV car buyers is a colloquial term used to describe someone who is perceived as being easily manipulated or taken advantage of, much like how leeks are a food crop that can be easily grown and harvested. In the context of the EV market, it often refers to early adopters who may have paid more for a product, or who may be perceived as being easily swayed by marketing or trends, rather than being informed and strategic consumers.

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 27 2025, 06:43 PM)
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Hence, in CCP China and their kangaroo courts, the buying public are mostly treated as tools by the CCP and their "anak saya baik orangnya" like BYD, SAIC,  Huawei, Xiaomi, NIO, GWM, XPeng, etc, .......

Gemini AI Overview

The term "leek" (韭èœ) used in China in relation to EV car buyers is a colloquial term used to describe someone who is perceived as being easily manipulated or taken advantage of, much like how leeks are a food crop that can be easily grown and harvested. In the context of the EV market, it often refers to early adopters who may have paid more for a product, or who may be perceived as being easily swayed by marketing or trends, rather than being informed and strategic consumers. 

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just admit it if result not in favor say ppl bullshit, if win say its the truth

this is anak saya bodo orangnya hahahahaha


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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 27 2025, 07:09 PM)
just admit it if result not in favor say ppl bullshit, if win say its the truth

this is anak saya bodo orangnya  hahahahaha
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Please prove that got buying-public leeks have win court cases against the CCP and their "anak saya baik orangnya" like BYD, etc.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 27 2025, 07:39 PM)
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Please prove that got buying-public leeks have win court cases against the CCP and their "anak saya baik orangnya" like BYD, etc.
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please prove that court siding with these companies
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ May 26 2025, 04:41 PM)
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In CCP China's kangaroo courts, BYD car owners who sue BYD would likely go bankrupt instead after counter-sued by BYD, .......

https://news.qq.com/rain/a/20250115A08MQ900 - Google Translated: Recently, BYD sued the self-media "Longzhu-JiChe" for defamation, and the court ruled that "Longzhu-JiChe" should compensate BYD 2.0187 million yuan and make a public apology.  - 15 Jan 2025
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 27 2025, 07:42 PM)
please prove that court siding with these companies
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Oredi proven in many court cases like the above.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 27 2025, 08:05 PM)
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Oredi proven in many court cases like the above.
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so court didnt side with the buyer then court is deemed unfair hahahahahaha

so go court vs companies the customers the one always must win? hahahahahaha
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in the midst of chaos sure got gain one.

waiting for 2022 xtrail to crash below 50k after june petrol price goes up.

also planning to sell ma myvi 2015 above 40k to some despos that cant tahan the fuel price increment.

put on your seatbelt gais - june july is golden time
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QUOTE((PowerSlide @ May 27 2025 @ 07:09 PM)
just admit it if result not in favor say ppl bullshit, if win say its the truth

this is anak saya bodo orangnya  hahahahaha
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Please prove that got buying-public leeks have win court cases against the CCP and their "anak saya baik orangnya" like BYD, etc.
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so court didnt side with the buyer then court is deemed unfair hahahahahaha

so go court vs companies the customers the one always must win? hahahahahaha
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Mana u punya proof, mana.?
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 27 2025, 08:24 PM)
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Mana u punya proof, mana.?
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i didnt say the court unfair, you the on banging on say them so

i say already, want to use go sue but didnt win dont blame court..if cannot trust then dont sue
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They just being patriotic. Vw sale is still good
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 27 2025, 08:30 PM)
i didnt say the court unfair, you the on banging on say them so

i say already, want to use go sue but didnt win dont blame court..if cannot trust then dont sue
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So, no proof.?
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 27 2025, 08:34 PM)
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So, no proof.?
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you the one need show proof not me
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QUOTE(anavrin @ May 26 2025, 04:46 PM)
thats what they have been telling us 20 years ago.
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Neta close shop already.. dare to invest.. haiyaaaa
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Want buy EV still see resale value? Pakai buang je la
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lol ts so naive
the price war start already
you really think second hand?
those are pre-regs being flooded into the market
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ May 27 2025, 08:34 PM)
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So, no proof.?
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you the one need show proof not me
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No lah. I oredi showed proof. You the one need show proof not me.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 27 2025, 10:40 PM)
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No lah. I oredi showed proof. You the one need show proof not me.
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what you show all the time nothing much just some opinion lol


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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 27 2025, 10:58 PM)
what you show all the time nothing much just some opinion lol
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No proof = you show nothing, just some opinion laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 28 2025, 12:12 AM)
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No proof = you show nothing, just some opinion laugh.gif
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i didnt say wor or post any article pointing to apa kangaroo court hahahaha
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EV motor vs Engine it's like comparing smart watch vs automatic watch, which 1 got higher 2nd hand value?

 

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