QUOTE(silverhawk @ May 26 2025, 10:55 AM)
Material quality makes a big difference. Though if its just for simple camp/hike, use something cheap la. If break also not a big deal just buy a new one. How likely you're doing things so extreme until can break
For somethings though, you need quality (e.g. bag). Don't buy bags from decathlon, the quality is horrible.
People buy titanium cause its lightweight and durable. Can't really get the same benefit in aluminium.
That said, its not worth the price. Once again, unless you're doing some form of hiking/camping where every gram matters, titanium doesn't do much for you. If going car camping, weight doesn't matter at all

Even for short hikes/camps, an extra few hundred grams won't kill you.
yes i believe so too, but problem is the pricing is just insanely high for what you are offered. im mostly comparing the default entry-mid level gear vs the ultralight high end ones la
alot of the ultralight stuff for example, while they are durable but by physics because of lower & thinner denier fabric or using thinner metals like aluminum/titanium, their durability isnt that much diff vs just getting the slightly heavier models. ended up the "heavier" models outlast them kek
ironically for the bags, decathlon while its considered low quality, it still works well for me and i believe to most average consumer for basic level use too. for the more experienced or specific niche user however it will be a diff story since they know what they want and need for their specific use case scenario. just IMO the decathlon basic ones covers 70% of the base user spectrum use case all the time, so its not necessary to get the expensive ones.
yes correct on the last paragraph, alot of people are too focused on fancy shit like being ultralight or "buying into quality things" then ended up paying a super premium on things that they dont actually matter/need. car campers dont need to worry much abt weight or size unless their cars are tiny and weaker engine, but even so its quite negligible if you preplan what you are packing in first place
im also kinda biased in a sense that if youre gonna do all these shit like outdoor camping/hiking/trekking etc, the bare min you must do is to have the ability to plan your carry weight and actually carry most of your own stuff till the end. otherwise its no difference than those colonial climbing where you just hire some huge entourage with someone to piggyback you entire time and carrying your shit. seen this alot during Mt Rinjani and Mt K climb, where alot people just pay to get porters to carry their heavy stuff that they simply pack super heavy under the excuses like "im supporting their economy" or "im too old/weak/tired etc" or "i got the money so why you blow?"