QUOTE(9m2w @ May 20 2025, 03:08 PM)
i use insect repeller. yang sticker tu.windows i open half all
then ayam use flysheet

Any good camping spot, Campers come in
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May 20 2025, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(Virlution @ May 20 2025, 03:23 PM) what sort of temp is your camp? genting type? Cameron and genting. Mostly around 14, only once got 10c during coldsnap erlier this year. temp around 15deg, normal tent, basic 10deg or so sleeping bag with mat + jacket is good enough..... you need a ground mat, can get either cheap yoga mat or air mattress. else you will get body heat loss due to ground sucking all your body heat. unless you are walking or hiking then need to buy expensive sleeping bag as they are a lot smaller for the same temp rating. tent, is also weight, you pay more for the weight. if drive you dont need to pay premium for ultra light tent, just need to wax to ensure water dont go in via the seams. my dome tent got additional layer, even big storm still dry inside, so single layer water will seep in after a few hours of rain and become damp Using 125cc bike, i have self impose limit where everything must fit in 55liter box, total not more than 14kg. After many nights, I found my perfect balanced setup with least weight - which is a good sleeping bag+thin silver mat. My bag is only like 5c Tcomfort one, but its the FP900 down is what makes it expensive. However it packs down amazingly compact 0.5kg, 12x24cm. You can't get anywhere near this with synthetic. This post has been edited by failed.hashcheck: May 20 2025, 03:57 PM |
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 20 2025, 01:59 PM) Its really you got what you pay most of time. People think they got a bargain with decathlon - thats because they rarely got chance to use legit stuff from MSR, Montbell, helinox and the likes. They never had chance to see the latest breakthrough in material engineering in action where they could actually pay for it rn. it's always good to have entry level item with this hangat2 tahi ayam hobbyMalaysian market is flooded with prc slop, to most of us vidalido and blackdog and to some extent coleman are some sort of hot stuff lmao. When you compare these cringe with decathlon ofc decathlon sounds like a steal. Nowadays so called "camping" = moving fancy / bulky stuff out from your house, cook maggi, canned food, curry chicken etc Still doing occassional camping (with trekking 1-4 hours into the forest / waterfall) , once every half a year. Never understand the branded stuff thing when my china / local made stuff still usable. my 20 years ago stuff still working fine, -tent rm 60 - 6 pax tent from carrefour if have 6-7 pax -coleman 2 pax tent - for storage -20 years old deuter backpack - mini burner from experiment lab (gift from school) - swiss knife - parang from the orchard - used to have tesco hammock but broken alraedy , used like 6 years - (this one renewed every few years) Kedai logam cina flysheet 1 feet rm 3, one piece on the floor , one piece for shade, usually stuffy inside forest sleep half naked or just use a sleeping bag. - (somewhere 2010) mr DIY shovel This post has been edited by AyamBlend: May 20 2025, 03:52 PM |
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May 20 2025, 03:55 PM
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Bikepacking quite interesting, save on petrol too
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May 20 2025, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ May 20 2025, 03:42 PM) dulu ayam use diy Roof Top Tentnow malas mau pasang cabut 3rd row seat, pasang airbed this ayam DIY RTT ![]() Chosen one liked this post
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May 20 2025, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ May 20 2025, 03:50 PM) it's always good to have entry level item with this hangat2 tahi ayam hobby It all boils down to weight and volume. You can have a really cheap and durable stuff but most of time you ended look like pindah rumah instead of camping.Nowadays so called "camping" = moving fancy / bulky stuff out from your house, cook maggi, canned food, curry chicken etc Still doing occassional camping (with trekking 1-4 hours into the forest / waterfall) , once every half a year. Never understand the branded stuff thing when my china / local made stuff still usable. my 20 years ago stuff still working fine, -tent rm 60 - 6 pax tent from carrefour if have 6-7 pax -coleman 2 pax tent - for storage -20 years old deuter backpack - mini burner from experiment lab (gift from school) - swiss knife - parang from the orchard - used to have tesco hammock but broken alraedy , used like 6 years - (this one renewed every few years) Kedai logam cina flysheet 1 feet rm 3, one piece on the floor , one piece for shade, usually stuffy inside forest sleep half naked or just use a sleeping bag. - (somewhere 2010) mr DIY shovel This post has been edited by failed.hashcheck: May 20 2025, 04:25 PM |
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 20 2025, 04:24 PM) It all boils down to weight and volume. You can have a really cheap and durable stuff but most of time you ended look like pindah rumah instead of camping. once we went to somewhere near genting4x4 guy came to pick up us, 2 backpack + ikea shopping bag (food + foldable chair/table) The drivers were casually asking "thats it?" Didnt know why, until we reached the campsite, yea ours look like temporary setup at construction site vs others camping with lights / tables / fan / countless tag boxes + luggage bags kidmad liked this post
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May 20 2025, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 20 2025, 01:59 PM) Its really you got what you pay most of time. People think they got a bargain with decathlon - thats because they rarely got chance to use legit stuff from MSR, Montbell, helinox and the likes. They never had chance to see the latest breakthrough in material engineering in action where they could actually pay for it rn. Malaysian market is flooded with prc slop, to most of us vidalido and blackdog and to some extent coleman are some sort of hot stuff lmao. When you compare these cringe with decathlon ofc decathlon sounds like a steal. QUOTE(azack @ May 20 2025, 02:13 PM) Branded one very expensive...unaffordable for us la. And mostly warmer clothing and untra light gears. In tropical countries really not worth to spend this money, not practical. Some more for car camping is really overkill. yeah i understand, but the issue is the so called "legit" stuff are too damn expensive la in our currency due to direct conversion. they were priced for western markets and western money, not ours. to them buy one gear like jacket will cost USD400 which to them is considered expensive. but in MYR its RM2k for the same jacket. really? 4 digit pricing for a jacket only? (i did bought it tho kek, kept me dry and warm during my hikes, but im sure even a cheaper model will do as good albeit 70% of its capability)Imo, china made outdoor equipment is really worth it, I buy most of my gears from AliExpress. And if you check most of the beaded gears also made in china or Vietnam. same goes for my hiking backpack, my 40L decathlon backpack proved its worth for years ed plus many hike/backpacking trips. only cost <RM300 too. meanwhile western brands like Deuter, Osprey, Gregory, Millet etc all cost like RM1.2k for 40L bags? if youre super into hiking/mountaineering and willing to spend, go ahead la. but its definitely not worth the price/perf ratio IMO plus gear hoarding is real guys... once you start you wouldnt stop kek Naturehike is one of the few chinese brands that are picking up. its good and i would recommend |
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QUOTE(marfccy @ May 20 2025, 04:43 PM) yeah i understand, but the issue is the so called "legit" stuff are too damn expensive la in our currency due to direct conversion. they were priced for western markets and western money, not ours. to them buy one gear like jacket will cost USD400 which to them is considered expensive. but in MYR its RM2k for the same jacket. really? 4 digit pricing for a jacket only? (i did bought it tho kek, kept me dry and warm during my hikes, but im sure even a cheaper model will do as good albeit 70% of its capability) Legend has it that Naturehike was once MSR's OEM. That explain how if you observe most of their dome tents are all almost 1:1 copy MSR and its quality, down to sewing technique (and all its sealing problem lol). With only compromise in alloy materials to make it cheaper.same goes for my hiking backpack, my 40L decathlon backpack proved its worth for years ed plus many hike/backpacking trips. only cost <RM300 too. meanwhile western brands like Deuter, Osprey, Gregory, Millet etc all cost like RM1.2k for 40L bags? if youre super into hiking/mountaineering and willing to spend, go ahead la. but its definitely not worth the price/perf ratio IMO plus gear hoarding is real guys... once you start you wouldnt stop kek Naturehike is one of the few chinese brands that are picking up. its good and i would recommend marfccy liked this post
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 20 2025, 04:54 PM) Legend has it that Naturehike was once MSR's OEM. That explain how if you observe most of their dome tents are all almost 1:1 copy MSR and its quality, down to sewing technique (and all its sealing problem lol). With only compromise in alloy materials to make it cheaper. thats exactly why too im so reserved in paying so much knowing that it all came from China which should be very affordable range. but instead its marked up for western markets and reused same price for non western markets kekfor example Decathlon and Salomon share same OEM factories too. while Decathlon shoes have a significantly cheaper material and design used, but quality wise theyre legit. |
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Cameron, stellar and the other 2 surrounding campground..
others is really nearby luying campsite.. others i wont really go too hot haha. |
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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ May 20 2025, 04:33 PM) once we went to somewhere near genting that's funny hahaha4x4 guy came to pick up us, 2 backpack + ikea shopping bag (food + foldable chair/table) The drivers were casually asking "thats it?" Didnt know why, until we reached the campsite, yea ours look like temporary setup at construction site vs others camping with lights / tables / fan / countless tag boxes + luggage bags |
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QUOTE(marfccy @ May 20 2025, 05:18 PM) thats exactly why too im so reserved in paying so much knowing that it all came from China which should be very affordable range. but instead its marked up for western markets and reused same price for non western markets kek While there are some truth in brand tax, in context of msr vs naturehike the pricing it's far off actually. The original MSR design uses dac pole which is famously resilient and light but they charged arm and leg for it. Naturehike replaces it with some noticeably heavier alloy. I have old decommissioned hubba hubba with hydrolyzed fabric but its dac pole still holds liek rm1k+ market value lolfor example Decathlon and Salomon share same OEM factories too. while Decathlon shoes have a significantly cheaper material and design used, but quality wise theyre legit. For naturehike only their dome tent got pedigree. Other stuff afaik are still homegrown china stuff. Problem with china stuff is these people where got standard one. Their titanium like toaks/keith/lixada whatever feels noticeably cheap compared to other top brands that mostly sourced from Niigata Japan. Chinese would make 5% alloy and still claim it as titanium. Same with their waterproof rating that they pull out of their ass. 10000mm they said. But they never disclose the methodology and likely perform worse than MSR's honest 2000mm. |
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 20 2025, 06:00 PM) While there are some truth in brand tax, in context of msr vs naturehike the pricing it's far off actually. The original MSR design uses dac pole which is famously resilient and light but they charged arm and leg for it. Naturehike replaces it with some noticeably heavier alloy. I have old decommissioned hubba hubba with hydrolyzed fabric but its dac pole still holds liek rm1k+ market value lol i would argue its just reflecting its pricing levels. China is notorious for being very price conscious. like if the manufacturer decided that they just want to go cheap no frills, everything else will also be cheap. but if they target quality, they will produce quality products. its just what level you mau niaFor naturehike only their dome tent got pedigree. Other stuff afaik are still homegrown china stuff. Problem with china stuff is these people where got standard one. Their titanium like toaks/keith/lixada whatever feels noticeably cheap compared to other top brands that mostly sourced from Niigata Japan. Chinese would make 5% alloy and still claim it as titanium. Same with their waterproof rating that they pull out of their ass. 10000mm they said. But they never disclose the methodology and likely perform worse than MSR's honest 2000mm. most people as usual all want the "CHEAP CHEAP" and ignores the rest then complain when quality is shit kek. what people should be searching for is value for money, not just cheap. as for their claims yeah ive seen so many stupid claims like saying "this powerbank from china hold 100,000mah! can charge your phone at 200W!" topkek |
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