actually its not about quality, its about how much these outdoor corpos are extorting outdoor enthusiasts under the guise of "outdoor quality" or "you need this to be better in outdoor camping"

like for example i can go decathlon buy a decent lightweight foldable chair for less than RM100. those big brands priced these same foldable chairs at like RM500 defak

dont even get me started on stuff like titanium cookwares, just use cheaper aluminum and reap same benefits dammit

Branded one very expensive...unaffordable for us la. And mostly warmer clothing and untra light gears. In tropical countries really not worth to spend this money, not practical. Some more for car camping is really overkill.

Imo, china made outdoor equipment is really worth it, I buy most of my gears from AliExpress. And if you check most of the beaded gears also made in china or Vietnam.

any recommendation for suitable car camping + plugpoint availability. 

what sort of temp is your camp? genting type?
temp around 15deg, normal tent, basic 10deg or so sleeping bag with mat + jacket is good enough.....

you need a ground mat, can get either cheap yoga mat or air mattress. else you will get body heat loss due to ground sucking all your body heat.

unless you are walking or hiking then need to buy expensive sleeping bag as they are a lot smaller for the same temp rating.

tent, is also weight, you pay more for the weight. if drive you dont need to pay premium for ultra light tent, just need to wax to ensure water dont go in via the seams.
my dome tent got additional layer, even big storm still dry inside, so single layer water will seep in after a few hours of rain and become damp

it's always good to have entry level item with this hangat2 tahi ayam hobby
Nowadays so called "camping" = moving fancy / bulky stuff out from your house, cook maggi, canned food, curry chicken etc

Still doing occassional camping (with trekking 1-4 hours into the forest / waterfall) , once every half a year.
Never understand the branded stuff thing when my china / local made stuff still usable.

my 20 years ago stuff still working fine,
-tent rm 60 - 6 pax tent from carrefour if have 6-7 pax
-coleman 2 pax tent - for storage
-20 years old deuter backpack
- mini burner from experiment lab (gift from school)
- swiss knife
- parang from the orchard
- used to have tesco hammock but broken alraedy , used like 6 years

- (this one renewed every few years) Kedai logam cina flysheet 1 feet rm 3, one piece on the floor , one piece  for shade, usually stuffy inside forest sleep half naked or just use a sleeping bag.
- (somewhere 2010) mr DIY shovel

yeah i understand, but the issue is the so called "legit" stuff are too damn expensive la in our currency due to direct conversion. they were priced for western markets and western money, not ours. to them buy one gear like jacket will cost USD400 which to them is considered expensive. but in MYR its RM2k for the same jacket. really? 4 digit pricing for a jacket only? (i did bought it tho kek, kept me dry and warm during my hikes, but im sure even a cheaper model will do as good albeit 70% of its capability)

same goes for my hiking backpack, my 40L decathlon backpack proved its worth for years ed plus many hike/backpacking trips. only cost <RM300 too. meanwhile western brands like Deuter, Osprey, Gregory, Millet etc all cost like RM1.2k for 40L bags? if youre super into hiking/mountaineering and willing to spend, go ahead la. but its definitely not worth the price/perf ratio IMO

plus gear hoarding is real guys... once you start you wouldnt stop kek  and the total costs really stacks up over time. i still pending alot of mountaineering gear like boots, which easily costs RM2k for a pair kek. i still cant justify since i doing simpler mountains which my hiking boots still works.

Naturehike is one of the few chinese brands that are picking up. its good and i would recommend

thats exactly why too im so reserved in paying so much knowing that it all came from China which should be very affordable range. but instead its marked up for western markets and reused same price for non western markets kek

for example Decathlon and Salomon share same OEM factories too. while Decathlon shoes have a significantly cheaper material and design used, but quality wise theyre legit.

once we went to somewhere near genting
4x4 guy came to pick up us, 2 backpack + ikea shopping bag (food + foldable chair/table)

The drivers were casually asking "thats it?"
Didnt know why, until we reached the campsite, yea ours look like temporary setup at construction site vs others camping with lights  / tables / fan / countless tag boxes + luggage bags

All these camping gear, can add up into the thousands. It is an industry of its own. To get fully setup with good quality gear, your budget must be at least several k.

But just one Roof Top Tent can be 5k....

Yea when it's still very primitive, recently I see campsite expanded and seems more amoi joining.

Not a fan of that place, simply too noisy at night.

Yunkai not good one loh can’t see stars at night and can heard racing car sound at night

man owner at camperz hideout just told me cant do campfire woh

i just wanted campfire

and stargazing thats all i want

I've been thinking of getting back into camping myself lately.. need a break from all the tech. Surprise surprise I see all the tech in people camping... wth. Kinda defeats the purpose?

i wanted an oil lamp but there isnt anyone selling anymore mostly LED

i want the organic feeling of camping