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post May 15 2025, 08:01 AM, updated 7 months ago

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KLIA: why do I hear boss music



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KLIA aero train
Sudah siap repair?
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With combined estimating terminals they estimate to handle 150mil passengers.

The whole country only few million population
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KLIA cannot even came close with it's 26 years of negligence
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ May 15 2025, 08:02 AM)
KLIA aero train
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This is really an embarrassment. Everytime the plane land I pray it won't be at the satellite building. Else it would take about 15 min walk.


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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 15 2025, 08:03 AM)
KLIA cannot even came close with it's 26 years of negligence
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just praying for some brain cell being used to design parking area for grab, bus and arriving departure cars
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SINGAPORE – An increase in the fees and levies that passengers will need to pay when departing from Changi Airport puts Singapore high on the list of the most expensive air hubs, said aviation analysts.

Already, the $65.20 in fees and taxes that travellers pay when booking a flight from the airport today is more than double those of Kuala Lumpur International Airport and Bangkok’s Suvarnabhumi Airport.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/tran...-other-airports

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We got 2nd tallest skyscraper in the world, apa singapork ada..oh wai..
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No use, changi airport tax is extremely high. Nothing is free in this world, u want klia to be like changi, klia will just increase the airport tax 300%. They will charge the airlines which will in turn charge passengers.

Besides there is no reason to go to SG besides work. Boring and overpriced city

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QUOTE(smallcrab @ May 15 2025, 07:02 AM)
KLIA aero train
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better to ask, has repairs started?.. already 3 years… still waiting… for approval? parts? new system?.. and this is used everyday..
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i hope klia 1 and 2 improved and then build the klia3 to compete with changi. with our cheaper pricing and then we block some airplanes routes going to SG from using the airspace of Malaysia, we should be able to distrupt Changi biz and also bring back some biz to us. we should aim to be the most preferred transit point for tourists from America, Europe etc to travel in SEA. Changi mainly for biz and overpriced. So we gotta fight Bangkok airport for this.

i can't wait to see what Blackrock's GIP can do with our dying rubbish KLIA.
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Malaysians cannot have nice things, so yeah, KLIA is fine for me, even though it is looks dated like 1990s.
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Klia is dogshit
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KLiA RIP long time. Always see many bangla human trafficking stranded there only. Go Changi always see rich travellers
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People here forgets how dogshit LCCT and Subang was
KLIA is 30 years old and still stands way better than expected
Been travelling KCH-KUL since early 90s
EXCEPT:
- the existence of taxi touts
- delays on the train replacements
- the ehailing hub gets crowded during peak hours

ppl here just like to jilat SINGAPORE
is it a boring country with no reason to visit other than attending concerts

never got the jizz of WOW CHANGI!
I have the same feeling when seeing BIG BEN or EIFFEL TOWER.
It is just meh
It is not the Pyramids, Burj Khalifah or Rijksmuseum level
it is just an airport that I can't wait to leave
who wants to see man made waterfall and greenhouse in an airport anyway?
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ May 15 2025, 08:02 AM)
KLIA aero train
Sudah siap repair?
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Last 2 week came back from oversea still under repair. Really sia sui, walk damn far and left right like under construction. With many bangla sleeping and sitting on the side. Macam i went to dunno which 3rd world country
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shamely, Malaysia airlines growth is too slow
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ May 15 2025, 08:13 AM)
just praying for some brain cell being used to design parking area for grab, bus and arriving departure cars
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KLIA 1 and 2 is implementing palang or payment system for it's arriving and departure hall

should be 1st 15mins is free
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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ May 15 2025, 08:59 AM)
People here forgets how dogshit LCCT and Subang was
KLIA is 30 years old and still stands way better than expected
Been travelling KCH-KUL since early 90s
EXCEPT:
- the existence of taxi touts
- delays on the train replacements
- the ehailing hub gets crowded during peak hours

ppl here just like to jilat SINGAPORE
is it a boring country with no reason to visit other than attending concerts

never got the jizz of WOW CHANGI!
I have the same feeling when seeing BIG BEN or EIFFEL TOWER.
It is just meh
It is not the Pyramids, Burj Khalifah or Rijksmuseum level
it is just an airport that I can't wait to leave
who wants to see man made waterfall and greenhouse in an airport anyway?
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i don't think people know how good changi is today
they improve and update every years

u can literally go from your boarding gate to arrival hall in 15 mins....something that can't be done with KLIA 1 or 2
and their toilet is actually modern and clean
something very basic actually played a major role on how good an airport is....basic necessity done right 1st
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even bkk suvarnabhumi has satellite terminal now. their aerotrain is more or less same as ours.

landed there this moning at 6 am... the satellite building eateries are super packed. i managed to get a thai iced tea at 180 thb... and sat near the gate to read my book
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 15 2025, 09:14 AM)
i don't think people know how good changi is today
they improve and update every years

u can literally go from your boarding gate to arrival hall in 15 mins....something that can't be done with KLIA 1 or 2
and their toilet is actually modern and clean
something very basic actually played a major role on how good an airport is....basic necessity done right 1st
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if this is the only airport I can remember I refuse to spend money buying food, then bullshit on basic necessity
it is the same as any airport, arrival time the same as Bali/Jakarta/Bangkok
nothing special

the special ones are only bells and whistles
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ May 15 2025, 08:25 AM)
No use, changi airport tax is extremely high. Nothing is free in this world, u want klia to be like changi, klia will just increase the airport tax 300%. They will charge the airlines which will in turn charge passengers.

Besides there is no reason to go to SG besides work. Boring and overpriced city
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u belip or not if KLIA increase to 1000% tax also, facilities and infra will still exactly the same or not?
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 15 2025, 09:11 AM)
KLIA 1 and 2 is implementing palang or payment system for it's arriving and departure hall

should be 1st 15mins is free
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u think those alphard will care about rm10 parking fee?

correct solution is slotted parking like senai airport
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ May 15 2025, 08:25 AM)
No use, changi airport tax is extremely high. Nothing is free in this world, u want klia to be like changi, klia will just increase the airport tax 300%. They will charge the airlines which will in turn charge passengers.

Besides there is no reason to go to SG besides work. Boring and overpriced city
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SGD by default is 3 times more expensive.

Whether pax is willing to pay for more expensive charges is depending on experience received. Changi and klia is similar to 5 and 3 star hotel respectively. Natural no pax is willing to pay even 4 star price for 3 star facilities.

Mys is bestest in syok sendiri.

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QUOTE(callmecool @ May 15 2025, 08:34 AM)
i hope klia 1 and 2 improved and then build the klia3 to compete with changi. with our cheaper pricing and then we block some airplanes routes going to SG from using the airspace of Malaysia, we should be able to distrupt Changi biz and also bring back some biz to us. we should aim to be the most preferred transit point for tourists from America, Europe etc to travel in SEA. Changi mainly for biz and overpriced. So we gotta fight Bangkok airport for this.

i can't wait to see what Blackrock's GIP can do with our dying rubbish KLIA.
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blackrock can first start with sacking the whole management team of MAHB first.
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ May 15 2025, 09:23 AM)
u think those alphard will care about rm10 parking fee?

correct solution is slotted parking like senai airport
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i don't think the alphard is the one they're worrying about
the alphard vellfire can just go park at the parking lot beside

it's those illegal e-hailing or stupid parents that they're worried about
those that park there and go in find customer....or parents send their kids/relative to airport, park there and escort them till the departure gate and thn go jalan2 type laugh.gif
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KLIA already long RIP.

No need to compare. Only can complain.

Gomen kept appointing the same vendors for the job.
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QUOTE(JasonthegreatTWO @ May 15 2025, 08:57 AM)
KLiA RIP long time. Always see many bangla human trafficking stranded there only. Go Changi always see rich travellers
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Thats their target audience.

Deswai they can have high prices fior use of changi.

Singkies are rich and so are many of the travellers who go der.

Srry Msians you can go to Sg Seletar airport to take firefly.
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ May 15 2025, 10:21 AM)
Thats their target audience.

Deswai they can have high prices fior use of changi.

Singkies are rich and so are many of the travellers who go der.

Srry Msians you can go to Sg Seletar airport to take firefly.
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Lol it cost more to fly to seletar
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QUOTE(Raddus @ May 15 2025, 08:01 AM)
KLIA: why do I hear boss music


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is the final boss moment...!!


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QUOTE(smallcrab @ May 15 2025, 08:02 AM)
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Wait till the oil money runs out

See whether people here still can have that IDGAF attitude or not
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 15 2025, 09:56 AM)
i don't think the alphard is the one they're worrying about
the alphard vellfire can just go park at the parking lot beside

it's those illegal e-hailing or stupid parents that they're worried about
those that park there and go in find customer....or parents send their kids/relative to airport, park there and escort them till the departure gate and thn go jalan2 type laugh.gif
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which are the alphards
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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ May 15 2025, 08:59 AM)
People here forgets how dogshit LCCT and Subang was
KLIA is 30 years old and still stands way better than expected
Been travelling KCH-KUL since early 90s
EXCEPT:
- the existence of taxi touts
- delays on the train replacements
- the ehailing hub gets crowded during peak hours

ppl here just like to jilat SINGAPORE
is it a boring country with no reason to visit other than attending concerts

never got the jizz of WOW CHANGI!
I have the same feeling when seeing BIG BEN or EIFFEL TOWER.
It is just meh
It is not the Pyramids, Burj Khalifah or Rijksmuseum level
it is just an airport that I can't wait to leave
who wants to see man made waterfall and greenhouse in an airport anyway?
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Ah the reply of someone not willing to improve the current state. In globalization you will be left behind.

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U all complain & complain.

But in reality, KLIA in 2024- 57million passenger annually. Maximum capacitu 70million.
Meanwhile, Changi- 67million paasenger annually.
Basically almost same.
Both among the busiest airport in the world..

Malaysia also will make KLIA3 but only after we reach/ near our capacity of 70million (45million in KLIA2).
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2025/02/...5mil-passengers

By next 3 years, most probably will start KLIA3 project...
So what...
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KLIA is looking really old and tired...but the bus terminal still has those KOMTAR after office hours vibes
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QUOTE(Raddus @ May 15 2025, 08:01 AM)
KLIA: why do I hear boss music


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QUOTE(lj0000 @ May 15 2025, 10:39 AM)
which are the alphards
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very less from what i observe, most are passenger cars like bezza
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Both airport not on same league and price point since years ago.
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QUOTE(JoLee @ May 15 2025, 10:43 AM)
Ah the reply of someone not willing to improve the current state. In globalization you will be left behind.
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we are growing at out own pace,
there's a malay phrase
ukur baju di badan sendiri

you are lying to yourself when comparing to Singapore which is a micro state
with ability to provide basic needs and EQUAL ACCESS TO EDUCATION to all it's citizen
and being the geographical point of EAST and WEST sea route

Compare Malaysia with Indonesia, Thailand and Vietnam instead
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ May 15 2025, 10:43 AM)
U all complain & complain.

But in reality, KLIA in 2024- 57million passenger annually. Maximum capacitu 70million.
Meanwhile, Changi- 67million paasenger annually.
Basically almost same.
Both among the busiest airport in the world..

Malaysia also will make KLIA3 but only after we reach/ near our capacity of 70million (45million in KLIA2).
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2025/02/...5mil-passengers

By next 3 years, most probably will start KLIA3 project...
So what...
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they always lying to themselves when comparing Malaysia and Singapore
as if we don't know their real intention
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 15 2025, 11:01 AM)
very less from what i observe, most are passenger cars like bezza
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Was at klia t1 recently. Confirmed alphards.
The guards stand there like cannot see them
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ May 15 2025, 11:14 AM)
Was at klia t1 recently. Confirmed alphards.
The guards stand there like cannot see them
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the ones i saw on KLIA2 instead are bezza, taxis, passenger car drop off but decided to go inside together

maybe KLIA 1 is filled with alphard instead



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Why rip?
Malaysian will go there instead of KLIA?
Tourist will disembark there then only crossover to Malaysia?
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ May 15 2025, 08:25 AM)
No use, changi airport tax is extremely high. Nothing is free in this world, u want klia to be like changi, klia will just increase the airport tax 300%. They will charge the airlines which will in turn charge passengers.

Besides there is no reason to go to SG besides work. Boring and overpriced city
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Malaysia airport location already shit

We developed for cronies...not for raykat
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ May 15 2025, 11:18 AM)
Why rip? 
Malaysian will go there instead of KLIA? 
Tourist will disembark there then only crossover to Malaysia?
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thats the opposite reason why Singkapork doest want HSR to stop at KLIA, pikir pikirkan



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QUOTE(smallcrab @ May 15 2025, 08:02 AM)
KLIA aero train
Sudah siap repair?
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Brb. Busy selling number plates.
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walking through klia is like taking a walk through a kampung. Maybe that's the intention. Why don't you go further and let the illegal gerais sell food along the walkway. Enhance the kampung feel further.
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ May 15 2025, 11:18 AM)
Why rip? 
Malaysian will go there instead of KLIA? 
Tourist will disembark there then only crossover to Malaysia?
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yes i do. they have better connectivity to the world
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ May 15 2025, 08:02 AM)
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should rebrand as Aero Walk
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Sometimes I get a feeling I might get mugged in KLIA. Desolate in some places.
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ May 15 2025, 08:02 AM)
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Its already done just they taking so long to do testing

I saw it running last week at KLIA but not opened
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ May 15 2025, 10:43 AM)
U all complain & complain.

But in reality, KLIA in 2024- 57million passenger annually. Maximum capacitu 70million.
Meanwhile, Changi- 67million paasenger annually.
Basically almost same.
Both among the busiest airport in the world..

Malaysia also will make KLIA3 but only after we reach/ near our capacity of 70million (45million in KLIA2).
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2025/02/...5mil-passengers

By next 3 years, most probably will start KLIA3 project...
So what...
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It is not just the numbers but experience. Changi airport is for high net worth aka influential and important people.

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QUOTE(Raddus @ May 15 2025, 11:56 AM)
Its already done just they taking so long to do testing

I saw it running last week at KLIA but not opened
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T4 don't have train. Take lousy bus tak kecoh pun
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I will visit Changi terminal but fly cheaper from shittier klia
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ May 15 2025, 08:02 AM)
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Not yet… bang Loke no longer updating Liao, sell car plat better
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Actually T3 and T4 is quite under utilise right?
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ May 15 2025, 10:43 AM)
U all complain & complain.

But in reality, KLIA in 2024- 57million passenger annually. Maximum capacitu 70million.
Meanwhile, Changi- 67million paasenger annually.
Basically almost same.
Both among the busiest airport in the world..

Malaysia also will make KLIA3 but only after we reach/ near our capacity of 70million (45million in KLIA2).

By next 3 years, most probably will start KLIA3 project...
So what...
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Klia T1 second satellite terminal could add 15m pax and T2 could further expand to take 15m pax. Unlikely to build t3 in the next 15 years.
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ May 15 2025, 09:19 AM)
u belip or not if KLIA increase to 1000% tax also, facilities and infra will still exactly the same or not?
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Nope. If klia did increase airport tax 1000%, the airport can be properly upgraded.

QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 15 2025, 09:31 AM)
SGD by default is 3 times more expensive.

Whether pax is willing to pay for more expensive charges is depending on experience received. Changi and klia is similar to 5 and 3 star hotel respectively. Natural no pax is willing to pay even 4 star price for 3 star facilities.

Mys is bestest in syok sendiri.
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SG is not 3 times more expensive. Its because the SGD value is 3.3 times higher value than RM.

So since the SGD has higher value, it means than you are able to get better stuff with a lesser amount of money.

Singapore spending SGD100 will get better quality stuff compared to Malaysia spending RM100

So in theory, Changi airport tax should be cheaper dollar to dollar compared to KLIA but no its not.

Changi airport tax is SGD47 while Klia1 airport tax is RM73

If you take 73/3.3, changi airport tax shud be only 22sgd but its not.

Changi is clearly overpriced . Thats why they are able to give the best of everything because its the passengers who are paying for it and the passengers feel happy to pay the high tax because they know Singapore is a high class country

If you want KLIA to provide the best of everything, then ask them to increase the airport tax to sgd47x3.3= RM155.

Are you guys ready to pay rm155 airport tax?


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QUOTE(bengang15 @ May 15 2025, 08:06 AM)
This is really an embarrassment.  Everytime the plane land I pray it won't be at the satellite building. Else it would take about 15 min walk.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 15 2025, 12:21 PM)
Klia T1 second satellite terminal could add 15m pax and T2 could further expand to take 15m pax. Unlikely to build t3 in the next 15 years.
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It's in parliament debate already la. News also report the same.

Logically la, if annually passenger increase around 10%-15%.
Within next 3 years it will reach 70million capacity. It will need about 5 years to build new terminal (basically same like new changi airport which expected to operate in 2030 even if built start now).
B4 T3 complete, of course expansion of T1 & T2 will cover increase of passenger.
T3 should be operate around 2033-2036.

It's not to build T3 next 15 years. Then operate in next 20 years. Not realistic based on annual passenger %.

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To be honest, i feel KLIA1 is very very decent as an airport. It serves it purpose. No less, no more.

Who the F needs high class restaurants, giant water fountain , cinema , spa in an airport? Nobody asked and wants to pay for all these.

Yes KLia aerotrain is down, but i feel the buses do a splendid job at transferring passengers.

At current prices, i am not complaining


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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ May 15 2025, 12:37 PM)
To be honest, i feel KLIA1 is very very decent as an airport. It serves it purpose. No less, no more.

Who the F needs high class restaurants, giant water fountain , cinema , spa in an airport? Nobody asked and wants to pay for all these.

Yes KLia aerotrain is down, but i feel the buses do a splendid job at transferring passengers.

At current prices, i am not complaining
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u can't imagine how difficult it is to carry one luggage + one stroller + 3/4 bags + 1 baby on the bus even though it is short trip, not counting in the distance you need to walk down, and then up again.
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ May 15 2025, 12:52 PM)
u can't imagine how difficult it is to carry one luggage + one stroller + 3/4 bags + 1 baby on the bus even though it is short trip, not counting in the distance you need to walk down, and then up again.
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Dont u check in your bags and stroller?
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In Changi you can arrive at the airport, check in luggage, pass immigration/security and reached boarding gate in less than 15 min.

Super efficient.

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ May 15 2025, 12:03 PM)
It is not just the numbers but experience. Changi airport is for high net worth aka influential and important people.
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everyone can go Changi airport jalan jalan, enjoy view, makan good food , then take bus go back Johor

after security check, inside biasa saja.

qty and quality of food at Changi , is FAR superior in Changi compared to KLIA

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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ May 15 2025, 12:23 PM)
Nope. If klia did increase airport tax 1000%, the airport can be properly upgraded.
SG is not 3 times more expensive. Its because the SGD value is 3.3 times higher value than RM.

So since the SGD has higher value, it means than you are able to get better stuff with a lesser amount of money.

Singapore spending SGD100 will get better quality stuff compared to Malaysia spending RM100

So in theory, Changi airport tax should be cheaper dollar to dollar compared to KLIA but no its not.

Changi airport tax is SGD47 while Klia1 airport tax is RM73

If you take 73/3.3, changi airport tax shud be only 22sgd but its not.

Changi is clearly overpriced . Thats why they are able to give the best of everything because its the passengers who are paying for it and the passengers feel happy to pay the high tax because they know Singapore is a high class country

If you want KLIA to provide the best of everything, then ask them to increase the airport tax to sgd47x3.3= RM155.

Are you guys ready to pay rm155 airport tax?
Tak payah agree ya. Ko agree atau tak agree pun I tak dapat sesen dari u ya.
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ May 15 2025, 12:36 PM)
It's in parliament debate already la. News also report the same.

Logically la, if annually passenger increase around 10%-15%.
Within next 3 years it will reach 70million capacity. It will need about 5 years to build new terminal (basically same like new changi airport which expected to operate in 2030 even if built start now).
B4 T3 complete, of course expansion of T1 & T2 will cover increase of passenger.
T3 should be operate around 2033-2036.

It's not to build T3 next 15 years. Then operate in next 20 years. Not realistic based on annual passenger %.
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if mahb forecast is liable, t1 2nd satellite would have built 20 years ago.

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KLIA aero train
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been klia last year, totally if not, SHAMBLES. The aircond is abysmal , food wise okay but quite jaring difference between high and low class people separated.

The facility ngam ngam okay je, the other country airport better.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 15 2025, 01:07 PM)
To b40, everything is overpriced in sg, eu, uk, japan, korea, prc, aus, uae, qatar, etc.
if mahb forecast is liable, t1 2nd satellite would have built 20 years ago.
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If no covid, no political change, no recession, no 1MDB issue. Yes la..
But past 10 years, our economy a bit slow growth due to multiple issue.
Unexpected passenger usage also decline for couple years.
U also cannot forecast for something that u cant imagine will happen globally.
Now back on track...
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ May 15 2025, 12:37 PM)
To be honest, i feel KLIA1 is very very decent as an airport. It serves it purpose. No less, no more.

Who the F needs high class restaurants, giant water fountain , cinema , spa in an airport? Nobody asked and wants to pay for all these.

Yes KLia aerotrain is down, but i feel the buses do a splendid job at transferring passengers.

At current prices, i am not complaining
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ppl just want to play their agenda, which is
Singapore is better because the Chinese runs it
We all know Singapore is a micro state and not worthy of comparison to Malaysia

KLIA is okay.
There's some problems that is currently being solved
Aero Train, Grab, immigration line

Changi has a lot of bells and whistles no one asked for.
Who wanna spend time in an airport?
I just wanna spend the least of time in one,
and all I want is just some area to rest my head for free
if i have a long overlay or early morning flight.
A nice bench is enough for me.
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QUOTE(farisq @ May 15 2025, 01:20 PM)
KLIA: we don't build airport, we build shopping complex, airport is add-on
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actually thats a good idea. klia2 is a good example. some shop like jaya grocer, familymart dont charge airport premium price.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 15 2025, 01:07 PM)
To b40, everything is overpriced in sg, eu, uk, japan, korea, prc, aus, uae, qatar, etc.
if mahb forecast is liable, t1 2nd satellite would have built 20 years ago.
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Nope, Japan, Korea , Aus, EU and UK are all ok. What you pay , u get fair value

In Paris, i pay 4 euro for a fantastic cup of coffee. In SG i pay 8 sgd for an average cup of coffee.

In SG , you are paying way way more than its fair value.

I remember paying 28sgd for big breakfast in SGD. Was it 3 times better than the big breakfast in KL which costs rm35? Absolutely not
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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ May 15 2025, 01:18 PM)
ppl just want to play their agenda, which is
Singapore is better because the Chinese runs it
We all know Singapore is a micro state and not worthy of comparison to Malaysia

KLIA is okay.
There's some problems that is currently being solved
Aero Train, Grab, immigration line

Changi has a lot of bells and whistles no one asked for.
Who wanna spend time in an airport?
I just wanna spend the least of time in one,
and all I want is just some area to rest my head for free
if i have a long overlay or early morning flight.
A nice bench is enough for me.
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Exactly

Aero train they sorting out

Grab i dont see any issues. Got a dedicated area for Grab

Immigration line cant help as airports have peak period and off peak period. Peak is when many planes land at the same time.
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QUOTE(wcnew @ May 15 2025, 08:23 AM)
We got 2nd tallest skyscraper in the world, apa singapork ada..oh wai..
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They small small country build big airport.... we small small build tall tall tower lor... in before often said that a well-managed airport reflects a positive image of the country.
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ May 15 2025, 08:25 AM)
No use, changi airport tax is extremely high. Nothing is free in this world, u want klia to be like changi, klia will just increase the airport tax 300%. They will charge the airlines which will in turn charge passengers.

Besides there is no reason to go to SG besides work. Boring and overpriced city
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SG is providing premium services and facilities. Targetted high end tourist which won't blink on the airport tax.
Those tourist are not going SG just for work but diverse purposed like medical, education, conference and yeah concert!

KLIA is not in the same league thus unable to raise tax. Else worsening passenger volume.


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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ May 15 2025, 01:18 PM)
ppl just want to play their agenda, which is
Singapore is better because the Chinese runs it
We all know Singapore is a micro state and not worthy of comparison to Malaysia

KLIA is okay.
There's some problems that is currently being solved
Aero Train, Grab, immigration line

Changi has a lot of bells and whistles no one asked for.
Who wanna spend time in an airport?
I just wanna spend the least of time in one,
and all I want is just some area to rest my head for free
if i have a long overlay or early morning flight.
A nice bench is enough for me.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 15 2025, 01:24 PM)
actually thats a good idea. klia2 is a good example. some shop like jaya grocer, familymart dont charge airport premium price.
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Tell this to mahb on klia2
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hehehe but when kota bharu airport upgraded all very banggala

machem jakun never seen Changi airport
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ May 15 2025, 12:37 PM)
To be honest, i feel KLIA1 is very very decent as an airport. It serves it purpose. No less, no more.

Who the F needs high class restaurants, giant water fountain , cinema , spa in an airport? Nobody asked and wants to pay for all these.

Yes KLia aerotrain is down, but i feel the buses do a splendid job at transferring passengers.

At current prices, i am not complaining
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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ May 15 2025, 01:18 PM)
ppl just want to play their agenda, which is
Singapore is better because the Chinese runs it
We all know Singapore is a micro state and not worthy of comparison to Malaysia

KLIA is okay.
There's some problems that is currently being solved
Aero Train, Grab, immigration line

Changi has a lot of bells and whistles no one asked for.
Who wanna spend time in an airport?
I just wanna spend the least of time in one,
and all I want is just some area to rest my head for free
if i have a long overlay or early morning flight.
A nice bench is enough for me.
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Hahaha.

The little red dot of 6 million has a bigger GDP than Malaysia. And no need tok about abt GDP per cap.

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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ May 15 2025, 01:18 PM)
ppl just want to play their agenda, which is
Singapore is better because the Chinese runs it
We all know Singapore is a micro state and not worthy of comparison to Malaysia

KLIA is okay.
There's some problems that is currently being solved
Aero Train, Grab, immigration line

Changi has a lot of bells and whistles no one asked for.
Who wanna spend time in an airport?
I just wanna spend the least of time in one,
and all I want is just some area to rest my head for free
if i have a long overlay or early morning flight.
A nice bench is enough for me.
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not necessarily because chinese runs it

but what we know is KLIA is totally sohai compared to changi

and let's just say if aerotrain break down in singapore it wouldnt take so long for it to be fixed.

micro state or not, perlis also not big and it is shit

who wanna spend time in airport, then it makes the achievement even more awesome , they make people wanna go to airport even when theyre not flying

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Country airport is only as strong as their national airline.

Changi is expanding because Singapore Airlines basically dominate all travel from South East Asia to outside (Europe, US)

KLIA2 is better equipped than KLIA because AirAsia dominate South East Asia budget travel.

KLIA is rubbish because MAS is weak.
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ May 15 2025, 01:15 PM)
If no covid, no political change, no recession, no 1MDB issue. Yes la..
But past 10 years, our economy a bit slow growth due to multiple issue.
Unexpected passenger usage also decline for couple years.
U also cannot forecast for something that u cant imagine will happen globally.
Now back on track...
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Changi 2024 passengers volume is still below preCovid 2019 and 75% utilisation compares to capacity. Yet, they plan ahead for T5 which expected ready by mid 30s

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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ May 15 2025, 01:18 PM)
ppl just want to play their agenda, which is
Singapore is better because the Chinese runs it
We all know Singapore is a micro state and not worthy of comparison to Malaysia

KLIA is okay.
There's some problems that is currently being solved
Aero Train, Grab, immigration line

Changi has a lot of bells and whistles no one asked for.
Who wanna spend time in an airport?
I just wanna spend the least of time in one,
and all I want is just some area to rest my head for free
if i have a long overlay or early morning flight.
A nice bench is enough for me.
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Changi is a major transit hub for long distance flights. Not everyone gets to fly immediately after landing you know? Where else are they going to spend their time at? The average traveller landing/transiting in Changi has more money to spend anyway.

Also this one is a Singaporean thing but from what I’ve noticed locals do go Changi Jewel like it’s a mall.

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QUOTE(trojandude @ May 15 2025, 01:40 PM)
Changi is a major transit hub for long distance flights. Not everyone gets to fly immediately after landing you know? Where else are they going to spend their time at?

Also this one is a Singaporean thing but from what I’ve noticed locals do go Changi Jewel like it’s a mall.
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ May 15 2025, 01:37 PM)
Hahaha.

The little red dot of 6 million has a bigger GDP than Malaysia. And no need tok about abt GDP per cap.
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Who are you to fool?
6 million have equal access to education or basic needs.

None of the SE Asian or even most European can do this.
you do know what equal access to education means, right?
you do know what equal access to education can do for a nation, right?
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Who are you to fool?
6 million have equal access to education or basic needs.

None of the SE Asian or even most European can do this.
you do know what equal access to education means, right?
you do know what equal access to education can do for a nation, right?
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and yet we are trying to go in the opposite direction

we are not even endeavouring to provide equal access lol

plus one big thing, even when people are successful on their own merit and capability, there will be people trying to pull them down to their level... how ?



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QUOTE(trojandude @ May 15 2025, 01:40 PM)
Also this one is a Singaporean thing but from what I’ve noticed locals do go Changi Jewel like it’s a mall.
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that is my point, who wanna spend more time in an airport more than he needs?

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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ May 15 2025, 01:26 PM)
Nope, Japan, Korea , Aus, EU and UK are all ok. What you pay , u get fair value

In Paris, i pay 4 euro for a fantastic cup of coffee. In SG i pay 8 sgd for an average cup of coffee.

In SG , you are paying way way more than its fair value.

I remember paying 28sgd for big breakfast in SGD. Was it 3 times better than the big breakfast in KL which costs rm35? Absolutely not
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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ May 15 2025, 01:44 PM)
and yet we are trying to go in the opposite direction

we are not even endeavouring to provide equal access lol
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your comment clearly shows that you have no idea in EQUAL ACCESS TO EDUCATION AND BASIC NEED is
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ May 15 2025, 10:43 AM)
U all complain & complain.

But in reality, KLIA in 2024- 57million passenger annually. Maximum capacitu 70million.
Meanwhile, Changi- 67million paasenger annually.
Basically almost same.
Both among the busiest airport in the world..

Malaysia also will make KLIA3 but only after we reach/ near our capacity of 70million (45million in KLIA2).
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2025/02/...5mil-passengers

By next 3 years, most probably will start KLIA3 project...
So what...
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KLIA 57/70mil mean 80% utilization rate
Change 67/90mil mean 75% utilization rate

So SG plan ahead again.... And yeah the plan been mooted since 2013 and work is on going even before Covid. Yesterday is just ground breaking ceremony

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QUOTE(bengang15 @ May 15 2025, 08:06 AM)
This is really an embarrassment.  Everytime the plane land I pray it won't be at the satellite building. Else it would take about 15 min walk.
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Really fck this shit man. Getting at C gate, need to walk to the gate, take bus and then go to immigration then to carousell. By the time you're sweating bollocks already.
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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ May 15 2025, 01:45 PM)
your comment clearly shows that you have no idea in EQUAL ACCESS TO EDUCATION AND BASIC NEED is
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hmmm ok in marehsia it probably means ignoring people who need to walk to school on a rope bridge over dangerous waters

while spending billions to develop institutions meant for only 60% of the population.

spending billions to send those people overseas with no obligation to return.

and if they bring their families over it's ok, will provide for them as well.

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ May 15 2025, 01:46 PM)
hmmm ok in marehsia it probably means ignoring people who need to travvel on drawbridge

while spending billions to develop institutions meant for only 60% of the population.
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You are so dumb

A kid in Sungei Kadut have the same access to school, colleges, libraries, sports complex than a kid who lives in Tampines
BUT a kid living in Nangga Mendamit (I went to visit a school there, so I speak from actual experience)
doesn't have the same amenities as a kid living in Bandar Baru Nilai.

That is one of the reason Singapore is successful, education is equal

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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ May 15 2025, 01:50 PM)
You are so dumb

A kid in Sungei Kadut have the same access to school, colleges, libraries, sports complex than a kid who lives in Tampines
BUT a kid living in Nangga Mendamit (I went to visit a school there, so I speak from actual experience)
doesn't have the same amenities as a kid living in Bandar Baru Nilai.
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oh sorry i live in marehsia so im accustomed to what it means by equal access in marehsia

thank you for pointing out the real world definition
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that is my point, who wanna spend more time in an airport more than he needs?
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Jewel is not in the airport (no immigration). It’s just built there. It’s probably the best mall around that vicinity. Plenty of people live there you know. KLIA not the same because it’s very secluded.

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oh sorry i live in marehsia so im accustomed to what it means by equal access in marehsia

thank you for pointing out the real world definition
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ May 15 2025, 10:43 AM)
U all complain & complain.

But in reality, KLIA in 2024- 57million passenger annually. Maximum capacitu 70million.
Meanwhile, Changi- 67million paasenger annually.
Basically almost same.
Both among the busiest airport in the world..

Malaysia also will make KLIA3 but only after we reach/ near our capacity of 70million (45million in KLIA2).
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2025/02/...5mil-passengers

By next 3 years, most probably will start KLIA3 project...
So what...
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That’s because most passengers are T2 KLIA which is the lower tier (usually cheaper/budget airlines). If you do T1 you’ll see the big difference.

Changi serves a lot more long distance flights than KLIA. Average traveller landing in Changi have more money to spend than those in KLIA.

There’s a big difference with Singapore Airlines vs MAS/AirAsia. The routes, pricing, and distance travelled totally not comparable.

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ May 15 2025, 10:43 AM)
U all complain & complain.

But in reality, KLIA in 2024- 57million passenger annually. Maximum capacitu 70million.
Meanwhile, Changi- 67million paasenger annually.
Basically almost same.
Both among the busiest airport in the world..

Malaysia also will make KLIA3 but only after we reach/ near our capacity of 70million (45million in KLIA2).
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2025/02/...5mil-passengers

By next 3 years, most probably will start KLIA3 project...
So what...
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Really fck this shit man. Getting at C gate, need to walk to the gate, take bus and then go to immigration then to carousell. By the time you're sweating bollocks already.
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ May 15 2025, 12:56 PM)
Dont u check in your bags and stroller?
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you know by bringing a kid you need bunch of bags to carry toys / milk / liquid and diapers right? heck my girl insist on carrying a plushie as comfort toy and her own bags and that ended up as extra weight for me.

i already need to preps for 2 bottles of water and 1 hot water in thermal flask, not to mention extra bottle for our own consumption as we do not share her drinks due to hygiene purpose.

stroller can be drop off at plane door, otherwise you will end up carrying kid 70% of the time while you wait for gate to open. some countries must check in at counter, that is even more troublesome but those country offered free stroller for you to push until boarding gate.

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Changi 2024 passengers volume is still below preCovid 2019 and 75% utilisation compares to capacity. Yet, they plan ahead for T5 which expected ready by mid 30s
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U forget about aircraft movement (highest record), more aircraft parking there (air hub) & airfreight volume (3 times more than Malaysia).. Almost 90% utilisation.
Xkan la Singapore bodoh sangat 75% utilization but want to built more... Non-economical..

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How come everytime appoint new prime minister it comes with new airport terminal?

Also need to go to airport to see fake waterfall and fake forest? Lol
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UK Air Passenger Duty
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A Big Breakfast in Singapore at McDonald's costs around $7.70 SGD.
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QUOTE(abelyap @ May 15 2025, 01:40 PM)
Changi 2024 passengers volume is still below preCovid 2019 and 75% utilisation compares to capacity. Yet, they plan ahead for T5 which expected ready by mid 30s
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Given that aviation is changing from hub-&-spoke model to point-to-point model, there is a risk that Changi T5 would be under-utilized.

But I believe SG government already has plan B if this happens. Maybe they would demolish the existing T4, and move the traffic to other terminals.
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QUOTE(river.sand @ May 15 2025, 04:39 PM)
Given that aviation is changing from hub-&-spoke model to point-to-point model, there is a risk that Changi T5 would be under-utilized.

But I believe SG government already has plan B if this happens. Maybe they would demolish the existing T4, and move the traffic to other terminals.
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Point to point model has been around for a few decades already.

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QUOTE(river.sand @ May 15 2025, 04:39 PM)
Given that aviation is changing from hub-&-spoke model to point-to-point model, there is a risk that Changi T5 would be under-utilized.

But I believe SG government already has plan B if this happens. Maybe they would demolish the existing T4, and move the traffic to other terminals.
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They can demolish t123 as well and just move to t5 as a unified terminal like hong kong
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 15 2025, 08:03 AM)
With combined estimating terminals they estimate to handle 150mil passengers.

The whole country only few million population
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The bidet seats within Lalaport toilet pun mostly koyak d.

And sprayer in all public toilet semua hilang.
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With combined estimating terminals they estimate to handle 150mil passengers.

The whole country only few million population
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ May 15 2025, 04:51 PM)
a bit too ambitious?
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Point to point model has been around for a few decades already.
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Yes, point to point model has existed for decades. But its weight has been growing in the last 20 years.

A few factors explain this:
1. Budget airlines favor point to point.
2. Newer aircrafts such as A350 & B787 could fly further than the older models.

Starting next year, Qantas would offer non-stop flights from Sydney and Melbourne to London, bypassing SIN or Middle-East.

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Sounds good and all but what's the catch?

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U forget about aircraft movement (highest record), more aircraft parking there (air hub) & airfreight volume (3 times more than Malaysia).. Almost 90% utilisation.
Xkan la Singapore bodoh sangat 75% utilization but want to built more... Non-economical..
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Takkan hari ni kahwin esok beranak
Even the T5 building been on going, the phase 1 completion is mid 2030. It build ahead based on projection rather gali tanah bila mau bxxxk.
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Who are you to fool?
6 million have equal access to education or basic needs.

None of the SE Asian or even most European can do this.
you do know what equal access to education means, right?
you do know what equal access to education can do for a nation, right?
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SG definitely have excess education capacity
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that is my point, who wanna spend more time in an airport more than he needs?
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ May 15 2025, 08:02 AM)
KLIA aero train
Sudah siap repair?
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QUOTE(river.sand @ May 15 2025, 06:21 PM)
Yes, point to point model has existed for decades. But its weight has been growing in the last 20 years.

A few factors explain this:
1. Budget airlines favor point to point.
2. Newer aircrafts such as A350 & B787 could fly further than the older models.

Starting next year, Qantas would offer non-stop flights from Sydney and Melbourne to London, bypassing SIN or Middle-East.
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There are only limited number of cities pair could support ulr point to point and sin is one.

There is daily ulr non stop between sin and NYC and lax but there are a few times more pax travel transit or with stop. Similarly, mh fly LHR non stop but there are many more pax choose transit.

As sin is a ulr city pair, many pax from 2 hours radius will take ulr from sin.

Sin is a LCC destination. Could expect more a320/738 size flight.

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How come everytime appoint new prime minister it comes with new airport terminal?

Also need to go to airport to see fake waterfall and fake forest? Lol
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I rather see fake waterfall and fake forest than broken trains and unmaintained restrooms
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ May 15 2025, 08:02 AM)
KLIA aero train
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Changi aero train they shutdown
2am-5 for maintenance
Exaxtly 5min b4 5am zoomzoom

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Thank you pestech
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Hope u go bankrupt soon
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My ranking of ASEAN airports now... 1. Changi 2. Suvarnabhumi 3. Soekarno Hatta 4. KLIA ... dunno when we will drop into 5 or 6 positions.
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Klia is just Malaysian standard bus stop for air buses. It is just barely functional and a depressing place to be. It is in and out.
Not a hub for passengers to hang around compete with facilities and services to make their transit experience better and the time to fly by between layovers.
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KLIA got terminal 1 and 2

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Malaysia - Terminal!
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My ranking of ASEAN airports now... 1. Changi 2. Suvarnabhumi 3. Soekarno Hatta  4. KLIA  ... dunno when we will drop into 5 or 6 positions.
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I probably put Don Mueang as 1 and klia2 as 2 simply coz I haven’t flown into the other ones recently. Haha
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KLIA got terminal 1 and 2
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Aero trains still not working, keep extending the repair time

Satellite building leaking here and there each time it rains

Illegal taxi touts still allowed to operate like boss, while our aux police just walk past and pretend tak nampak

Shithole airport
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Honestly from the comments here you can tell who frequently travels KLIA/Changi and who doesn't.

Whenever I land in Changi, the moment I leave the plane, it takes me less than 10 minutes to leave the airport and sit my taxi. If I have check-in luggage, can add additional 10-15 minutes, which is pretty quick regardless.

Meanwhile in KLIA1/2, fucking shit takes FOREVER especially luggage. Grab pickup is a shitshow especially in KLIA T2. It will take minimum 1 hour (very lucky already if 1 hour) to leave if you have checked luggages, not to mention the endless walking in T2. With T1, some more need to take train (bus now) if you're arriving internationally. Heck, even departure also need to take train/bus.

In comparison, Changi, all I need is literally put my Grab to either T1/T2/T3/T4, pass immigration and fly (or arrive and leave). Where got this train/bus bullshit. Usually you only take Changi train to switch terminals if you transit only.

KLIA is poorly planned and it shows. Don't know why people keep defending it.

And all of these, I still haven't factor in the fact KLIA is freaking 50-60km away from city centre. I can land in Changi at 7am and be at my hotel by 8am. If I land in KLIA at 7am, inshallah 10am only I will be at my hotel, and proceed to pass out because of how tiring it is. The difference is extremely obvious it's not even comparable.

Changi didn't win best airport in the world multiple times (or at worst Top 3) by luck. There's a reason why Changi is ranked 1st/2nd and why KLIA is ranked 65th.

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as someone who needs airport facility as I have to transit when flying out of S&S, I pick Changi over KLIA any day.
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Terminal 2 is a very inefficiently designed airport foe budget airlines compared to Changi Terminal 4
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QUOTE(trojandude @ May 18 2025, 03:02 PM)
Honestly from the comments here you can tell who frequently travels KLIA/Changi and who doesn't.

Whenever I land in Changi, the moment I leave the plane, it takes me less than 10 minutes to leave the airport and sit my taxi. If I have check-in luggage, can add additional 10-15 minutes, which is pretty quick regardless.

Meanwhile in KLIA1/2, fucking shit takes FOREVER especially luggage. Grab pickup is a shitshow especially in KLIA T2. It will take minimum 1 hour (very lucky already if 1 hour) to leave if you have checked luggages, not to mention the endless walking in T2. With T1, some more need to take train (bus now) if you're arriving internationally. Heck, even departure also need to take train/bus.

In comparison, Changi, all I need is literally put my Grab to either T1/T2/T3/T4, pass immigration and fly (or arrive and leave). Where got this train/bus bullshit. Usually you only take Changi train to switch terminals if you transit only.

KLIA is poorly planned and it shows. Don't know why people keep defending it.

And all of these, I still haven't factor in the fact KLIA is freaking 50-60km away from city centre. I can land in Changi at 7am and be at my hotel by 8am. If I land in KLIA at 7am, inshallah 10am only I will be at my hotel, and proceed to pass out because of how tiring it is. The difference is extremely obvious it's not even comparable.

Changi didn't win best airport in the world multiple times (or at worst Top 3) by luck. There's a reason why Changi is ranked 1st/2nd and why KLIA is ranked 65th.
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exactly! Some say who want to spend time at airport so long. They also don’t know that Changi is efficient as hell. No one ask them to hangout at Changi. Even for a point to point travel, I only need 20min to leave airport since landing. The fastest I leave the airport with luggage collection was 16min. I was impressed with the efficiency. You don’t even feel the crowd at the airport with the high volume of pax they handle
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QUOTE(pjbucket @ May 19 2025, 10:34 AM)
exactly! Some say who want to spend time at airport so long. They also don’t know that Changi is efficient as hell. No one ask them to hangout at Changi. Even for a point to point travel, I only need 20min to leave airport since landing. The fastest I leave the airport with luggage collection was 16min. I was impressed with the efficiency. You don’t even feel the crowd at the airport with the high volume of pax they handle
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Very true bolded points. It's almost unbelievable how fast I can leave Changi airport. KLIA efficiency is like shit tier if you compare to Changi. Seriously slow as shit.

Don't know why the people here cannot take criticism to KLIA. Admit la - KLIA is f**king shit AND IT SHOWS.

and then we have jaguh kampung here complain "actually who wanna spend time in airport go shopping bla bla like Changi I just wanna leave hurr durr" ?? The f? KLIA is the DEFINITION of spending unnecessary time in the airport.

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exactly! Some say who want to spend time at airport so long. They also don’t know that Changi is efficient as hell. No one ask them to hangout at Changi. Even for a point to point travel, I only need 20min to leave airport since landing. The fastest I leave the airport with luggage collection was 16min. I was impressed with the efficiency. You don’t even feel the crowd at the airport with the high volume of pax they handle
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Average time for bag to arrive is 40 and 50 minutes at t1 and t2 respectively.

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I HATE KLIA. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif 3 hours at the airport before flight still can miss and twice. WTF. hundreds of passengers only 3 counter opened, after 1.5 hours became 2 counters. CCTV spoiled already? cannot see the immigration counters were packed w/ people. People were damn frustrated and the officers don't care. i don't know if local knows this reflects badly on the country. KILA is broken but repairable, when THE PEOPLE AND SYSTEM are literally broken they are totally wasted.

Singapore from entrance to depart left a deep impression of the airport and the country. That's how a guest should be treated. Hey every bit of effort no matter how big or small shows the dignity and pride of the country. Smart travelers are high net worth spenders, MY can have twice the amount of traveler but the tourism receipt may not be more than tin y Singapore. So stop whining wake up, learn from other strength and reflect on your weakness, AFter reflect do something not sleep over it.
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Malaysians cannot have nice things, so yeah, KLIA is fine for me, even though it is looks dated like 1990s.
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KLIA used to be one of the best airports. Sad with the condition now. Can't even repair the aerotrain. Terminal 3? Forget it.. no money after songlap for so many years...

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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ May 15 2025, 08:25 AM)
No use, changi airport tax is extremely high. Nothing is free in this world, u want klia to be like changi, klia will just increase the airport tax 300%. They will charge the airlines which will in turn charge passengers.

Besides there is no reason to go to SG besides work. Boring and overpriced city
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Dun say like this la bro later singapok fenbois come and bring pitchfork. They tot airport canggih free is it
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QUOTE(Nannostomuss @ May 22 2025, 04:18 AM)
I HATE KLIA.  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif 3 hours at the airport before flight still can miss and twice. WTF. hundreds of passengers only 3 counter opened, after 1.5 hours became 2 counters. CCTV spoiled already? cannot see the immigration counters were packed w/ people. People were damn frustrated and the officers don't care. i don't know if local knows this reflects badly on the country. KILA is broken but repairable, when THE PEOPLE AND SYSTEM are literally broken they are totally wasted.

Singapore from entrance to depart left a deep impression of the airport and the country. That's how a guest should be treated. Hey every bit of effort no matter how big or small shows the dignity and pride of the country. Smart travelers are high net worth spenders, MY can have twice the amount of traveler but the tourism receipt may not be more than tin y Singapore. So stop whining wake up, learn from other strength and reflect on your weakness, AFter reflect do something not sleep over it.
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you not malaysian?
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QUOTE(Nannostomuss @ May 22 2025, 04:18 AM)
I HATE KLIA.  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif 3 hours at the airport before flight still can miss and twice. WTF. hundreds of passengers only 3 counter opened, after 1.5 hours became 2 counters. CCTV spoiled already? cannot see the immigration counters were packed w/ people. People were damn frustrated and the officers don't care. i don't know if local knows this reflects badly on the country. KILA is broken but repairable, when THE PEOPLE AND SYSTEM are literally broken they are totally wasted.

Singapore from entrance to depart left a deep impression of the airport and the country. That's how a guest should be treated. Hey every bit of effort no matter how big or small shows the dignity and pride of the country. Smart travelers are high net worth spenders, MY can have twice the amount of traveler but the tourism receipt may not be more than tin y Singapore. So stop whining wake up, learn from other strength and reflect on your weakness, AFter reflect do something not sleep over it.
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Wait, 3 hours also can miss the flight? Can elaborate your story?
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QUOTE(trojandude @ May 19 2025, 11:08 AM)
Very true bolded points. It's almost unbelievable how fast I can leave Changi airport. KLIA efficiency is like shit tier if you compare to Changi. Seriously slow as shit.

Don't know why the people here cannot take criticism to KLIA. Admit la - KLIA is f**king shit AND IT SHOWS.

and then we have jaguh kampung here complain "actually who wanna spend time in airport go shopping bla bla like Changi I just wanna leave hurr durr" ?? The f? KLIA is the DEFINITION of spending unnecessary time in the airport.
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Malaysians are notorious for having no sense of shame bangwall.gif bangwall.gif bangwall.gif

Big country with so much resources and yet depend on Singapore to provide millions of good paying jobs to put food on tables and pay bills for tens of millions of Malaysian families bangwall.gif bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(Nannostomuss @ May 22 2025, 04:18 AM)
I HATE KLIA.  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif 3 hours at the airport before flight still can miss and twice. WTF. hundreds of passengers only 3 counter opened, after 1.5 hours became 2 counters. CCTV spoiled already? cannot see the immigration counters were packed w/ people. People were damn frustrated and the officers don't care. i don't know if local knows this reflects badly on the country. KILA is broken but repairable, when THE PEOPLE AND SYSTEM are literally broken they are totally wasted.

Singapore from entrance to depart left a deep impression of the airport and the country. That's how a guest should be treated. Hey every bit of effort no matter how big or small shows the dignity and pride of the country. Smart travelers are high net worth spenders, MY can have twice the amount of traveler but the tourism receipt may not be more than tin y Singapore. So stop whining wake up, learn from other strength and reflect on your weakness, AFter reflect do something not sleep over it.
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malaysian passport can use autogate immigration is very fast


You foreigner ah

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last week I came back from Shenzhen and Guangzhou, return flight transited in HK so I was in 3 different airports

Landed in KLIA T1.... don't know why but it felt depressing to me compared to the other airports. Was it the lighting?
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ May 26 2025, 10:27 AM)
Wait, 3 hours also can miss the flight? Can elaborate your story?
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Like i said. The custom was the cause of the delay. fortunately, my flight is an SQ which allows me to board the next flight back. dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif .
I already elaborated.
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ May 15 2025, 08:25 AM)
No use, changi airport tax is extremely high. Nothing is free in this world, u want klia to be like changi, klia will just increase the airport tax 300%. They will charge the airlines which will in turn charge passengers.

Besides there is no reason to go to SG besides work. Boring and overpriced city
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Take your medicine and go to bed okay?
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post May 31 2025, 12:32 AM

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land in Changi, within 30 minutes
1. gotten your luggage
2. immigration all settled
3. you're already on the road to your next destination
4. you're also already within the city

land in KLIA,
1. you need 15-30 minutes for your luggage
2. another 1-2 hour for immigration clearance (this is from tourist perspective that cant use autogate like malaysians)
3. another 1 hour to travel to KL


KLIA is the worst airport in this region to transit. go to reddit & you will see international tourists advise to not transit here.
imagine transit from KLIA 1 to KLIA 2, this process would take at least 3-4 hours (good luck catching your next plane)


This post has been edited by Nomisma: May 31 2025, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(Nomisma @ May 31 2025, 12:32 AM)
land in Changi, within 30 minutes
1. gotten your luggage
2. immigration all settled
3. you're already on the road to your next destination
4. you're also already within the city

land in KLIA,
1. you need 15-30 minutes for your luggage
2. another 1-2 hour for immigration clearance (this is from tourist perspective that cant use autogate like malaysians)
3. another 1 hour to travel to KL
KLIA is the worst airport in this region to transit. go to reddit & you will see international tourists advise to not transit here.
imagine transit from KLIA 1 to KLIA 2, this process would take at least 3-4 hours (good luck catching your next plane)
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Why would one want to transit between terminal 1 and 2 anyway

Usually transit is within malaysia airlines or within air asia

These 2 airlines dont ever codeshare with each other

Just book with the same airline and wont have to change terminal

This post has been edited by Raddus: May 31 2025, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(Raddus @ May 31 2025, 12:40 AM)
Why would one want to transit between terminal 1 and 2 anyway

Usually transit is within malaysia airlines or within air asia

These 2 airlines dont ever codeshare with each other

Just book with the same airline and wont have to change terminal
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use different airlines.
whichever airline cheapest will always be traveler's preference.
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QUOTE(Raddus @ May 31 2025, 12:40 AM)
Why would one want to transit between terminal 1 and 2 anyway

Usually transit is within malaysia airlines or within air asia

These 2 airlines dont ever codeshare with each other

Just book with the same airline and wont have to change terminal
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tourists would think Terminal 1 & Terminal 2 works just like how Changi's different terminal works.
but noo, KLIA 1 & KLIA 2 are in separate building, separate immigration, etc, despite using the very same runway.

 

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