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icemanfx
post May 15 2025, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ May 15 2025, 08:25 AM)
No use, changi airport tax is extremely high. Nothing is free in this world, u want klia to be like changi, klia will just increase the airport tax 300%. They will charge the airlines which will in turn charge passengers.

Besides there is no reason to go to SG besides work. Boring and overpriced city
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SGD by default is 3 times more expensive.

Whether pax is willing to pay for more expensive charges is depending on experience received. Changi and klia is similar to 5 and 3 star hotel respectively. Natural no pax is willing to pay even 4 star price for 3 star facilities.

Mys is bestest in syok sendiri.

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post May 15 2025, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ May 15 2025, 10:43 AM)
U all complain & complain.

But in reality, KLIA in 2024- 57million passenger annually. Maximum capacitu 70million.
Meanwhile, Changi- 67million paasenger annually.
Basically almost same.
Both among the busiest airport in the world..

Malaysia also will make KLIA3 but only after we reach/ near our capacity of 70million (45million in KLIA2).

By next 3 years, most probably will start KLIA3 project...
So what...
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Klia T1 second satellite terminal could add 15m pax and T2 could further expand to take 15m pax. Unlikely to build t3 in the next 15 years.
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post May 15 2025, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ May 15 2025, 12:23 PM)
Nope. If klia did increase airport tax 1000%, the airport can be properly upgraded.
SG is not 3 times more expensive. Its because the SGD value is 3.3 times higher value than RM.

So since the SGD has higher value, it means than you are able to get better stuff with a lesser amount of money.

Singapore spending SGD100 will get better quality stuff compared to Malaysia spending RM100

So in theory, Changi airport tax should be cheaper dollar to dollar compared to KLIA but no its not.

Changi airport tax is SGD47 while Klia1 airport tax is RM73

If you take 73/3.3, changi airport tax shud be only 22sgd but its not.

Changi is clearly overpriced . Thats why they are able to give the best of everything because its the passengers who are paying for it and the passengers feel happy to pay the high tax because they know Singapore is a high class country

If you want KLIA to provide the best of everything, then ask them to increase the airport tax to sgd47x3.3= RM155.

Are you guys ready to pay rm155 airport tax?
Tak payah agree ya. Ko agree atau tak agree pun I tak dapat sesen dari u ya.
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To b40, everything is overpriced in sg, eu, uk, japan, korea, prc, aus, uae, qatar, etc.

QUOTE(khusyairi @ May 15 2025, 12:36 PM)
It's in parliament debate already la. News also report the same.

Logically la, if annually passenger increase around 10%-15%.
Within next 3 years it will reach 70million capacity. It will need about 5 years to build new terminal (basically same like new changi airport which expected to operate in 2030 even if built start now).
B4 T3 complete, of course expansion of T1 & T2 will cover increase of passenger.
T3 should be operate around 2033-2036.

It's not to build T3 next 15 years. Then operate in next 20 years. Not realistic based on annual passenger %.
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if mahb forecast is liable, t1 2nd satellite would have built 20 years ago.

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post May 15 2025, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ May 15 2025, 01:18 PM)
ppl just want to play their agenda, which is
Singapore is better because the Chinese runs it
We all know Singapore is a micro state and not worthy of comparison to Malaysia

KLIA is okay.
There's some problems that is currently being solved
Aero Train, Grab, immigration line

Changi has a lot of bells and whistles no one asked for.
Who wanna spend time in an airport?
I just wanna spend the least of time in one,
and all I want is just some area to rest my head for free
if i have a long overlay or early morning flight.
A nice bench is enough for me.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 15 2025, 01:24 PM)
actually thats a good idea. klia2 is a good example. some shop like jaya grocer, familymart dont charge airport premium price.
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Tell this to mahb on klia2
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post May 15 2025, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ May 15 2025, 01:26 PM)
Nope, Japan, Korea , Aus, EU and UK are all ok. What you pay , u get fair value

In Paris, i pay 4 euro for a fantastic cup of coffee. In SG i pay 8 sgd for an average cup of coffee.

In SG , you are paying way way more than its fair value.

I remember paying 28sgd for big breakfast in SGD. Was it 3 times better than the big breakfast in KL which costs rm35? Absolutely not
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UK Air Passenger Duty
Domestic £7
Band A £13
Band B £90
Band C £94

A Big Breakfast in Singapore at McDonald's costs around $7.70 SGD.
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post May 15 2025, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ May 15 2025, 04:39 PM)
Given that aviation is changing from hub-&-spoke model to point-to-point model, there is a risk that Changi T5 would be under-utilized.

But I believe SG government already has plan B if this happens. Maybe they would demolish the existing T4, and move the traffic to other terminals.
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Point to point model has been around for a few decades already.

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post May 15 2025, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ May 15 2025, 08:03 AM)
With combined estimating terminals they estimate to handle 150mil passengers.

The whole country only few million population
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ May 15 2025, 04:51 PM)
a bit too ambitious?
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Tell this to DXB, DOH.

Those live in coconut shell, their world is the coconut shell.

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post May 15 2025, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ May 15 2025, 06:21 PM)
Yes, point to point model has existed for decades. But its weight has been growing in the last 20 years.

A few factors explain this:
1. Budget airlines favor point to point.
2. Newer aircrafts such as A350 & B787 could fly further than the older models.

Starting next year, Qantas would offer non-stop flights from Sydney and Melbourne to London, bypassing SIN or Middle-East.
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There are only limited number of cities pair could support ulr point to point and sin is one.

There is daily ulr non stop between sin and NYC and lax but there are a few times more pax travel transit or with stop. Similarly, mh fly LHR non stop but there are many more pax choose transit.

As sin is a ulr city pair, many pax from 2 hours radius will take ulr from sin.

Sin is a LCC destination. Could expect more a320/738 size flight.

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post May 17 2025, 12:53 PM

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Syok sendiri is best in finding excuses to justify shortcomings instead of learn and to be better.


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post May 17 2025, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(taitianhin @ May 17 2025, 01:40 PM)
Thank you pestech
Our klia train service is worst than my long lost bike
Hope u go bankrupt soon
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Prestech only previous experience in railway was power line for double track under ytl.

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post May 19 2025, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(pjbucket @ May 19 2025, 10:34 AM)
exactly! Some say who want to spend time at airport so long. They also don’t know that Changi is efficient as hell. No one ask them to hangout at Changi. Even for a point to point travel, I only need 20min to leave airport since landing. The fastest I leave the airport with luggage collection was 16min. I was impressed with the efficiency. You don’t even feel the crowd at the airport with the high volume of pax they handle
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Average time for bag to arrive is 40 and 50 minutes at t1 and t2 respectively.


 

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