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 CCP EV emergency brake on highway, almost accident, Guess the brand

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post May 5 2025, 08:41 PM

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Wah like this next time when I hit the highway must stay clear of EV. KNN suddenly emergency brake when one least expect it.
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post May 5 2025, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 5 2025, 08:39 PM)
inb4 root cause is ccp car owaiii

The first case got ccp geely engineer come inspect, in the end macam replaced the DC-DC converter

But recent software update got mention something about DC-DC converter, so may have been something related to software got some edge case causing the big battery not charging the small battery correctly, not sure but hopefully fixed

Heard two or three cases so far, but haven’t heard any after the recent update. So it’s either software related or just rare lemon faulty DC-DC.
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If not mistaken macam the DC converter rosak, supposingly DC converter charge 12v battery constantly when it drop to certain level.
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post May 5 2025, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 5 2025, 07:22 PM)
This one isnt a dead 12v issue. SC still checking actually so lets just wait for result.

Thailand got few cases like this where the high voltage cables got chewed by rodents which resulted in similar thing happen. Car goes into emergency mode and shuts down
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From the OP, BYD SC stated it was the 12V battery issue,.......

Pada 4 petang mereka memberitahu kereta kami mempunyai masalah bateri 12V dan memerlukan masa beberapa hari untuk membaik pulih dan melakukan pemeriksaan. ...

Pada 5 May, mereka memberitahu saya bateri 12V perlu diganti kerana 'low voltage'. Agak terkejut juga kerana kereta ini baru berusia 10 BULAN dan sudah mengalami masalah bateri. Kos penukaran bateri pula RM418 dan tiada warranty kerana kereta sudah lebih 20,000KM. Persoalan seterusnya, kenapa tiada sebarang amaran atau warning dan kereta terus brek mengejut, mereka menjawab, memang TIADA AMARAN atau indikasi jika bateri 12V bermasalah!

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post May 5 2025, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 5 2025, 08:40 PM)
Aircond power is draw from the main battery right?

IINM Proton emas also has 12volt battery in it, when i pasang dashcam that guy said can pakai parking mode which i'm worry it is drain the battery and spoil faster hmm.gif
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I think so.. the emas system is the same lah.

But BYD if the big battery below 20% charge, it wont charge the small 12v battery, dunno if geely program it to be the same

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post May 5 2025, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 5 2025, 08:44 PM)
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From the OP,  BYD SC stated it was the 12V battery issue,.......

Pada 4 petang mereka memberitahu kereta kami mempunyai masalah bateri 12V dan memerlukan masa beberapa hari untuk membaik pulih dan melakukan pemeriksaan.  ...

Pada 5 May, mereka memberitahu saya bateri 12V perlu diganti kerana 'low voltage'. Agak terkejut juga kerana kereta ini baru berusia 10 BULAN dan sudah mengalami masalah bateri. Kos penukaran bateri pula RM418 dan tiada warranty kerana kereta sudah lebih 20,000KM. Persoalan seterusnya, kenapa tiada sebarang amaran atau warning dan kereta terus brek mengejut, mereka menjawab, memang TIADA AMARAN atau indikasi jika bateri 12V bermasalah!

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Ada amaran la. Amaran Itu ialah jangan melebihi 20,000 km la untuk EV.

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This proved the car is theft proof.

Take out battery, no way to spin the wheel. Unless thief comes with tow truck

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 5 2025, 08:46 PM)
I think so.. the emas system is the same lah.

But BYD if the big battery below 20% charge, it wont charge the small 12v battery, dunno if geely program it to be the same
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Oh my goodness.
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post May 5 2025, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 5 2025, 07:18 PM)
Everything. The main battery only powers the drivetrain to move the car.

All small car accessories no matter byd or tesla relies on the 12v
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Use same battery like normal ice car or got special different battery?
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Don't worry guys. Let those early adopters face this problem, by the time we buy ev next few years, all problem solved already. Haha
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post May 5 2025, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 5 2025, 08:54 PM)
Use same battery like normal ice car or got special different battery?
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Same battery as old myvi and axia without start stop

Battery code 38b20l
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post May 5 2025, 08:58 PM

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Habislah so dangerous, cheap sale coming rm10k for a new atto 3 ultra
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 5 2025, 07:15 PM)
Which car will give indicator that 12V is running low?
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Axialution

When your 12V battery almost Kong, your car is hard to unlock and start.
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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 5 2025, 08:54 PM)
Use same battery like normal ice car or got special different battery?
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It's a normal 12V lead acid battery however because of it's special casing design it cannot be used in ICE because it cannot be secured safely. So owners of EV has no choice but to buy batteries from SC only. Knowing how genius owners are, yup I have seen ICE batteries fitted into EV and it's not secured at all, then ask apahal battery cepat Kong ya ?
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 5 2025, 07:50 PM)
Electric E brake should be banned. Cable brake provided the best redundancy.
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well ABS use electronics sensor, eletric motor pump too.. owai..
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this is why i hate cars full of electronics inside

if this happens to an ICE car, at most the engine would stall...that's all
the car would glide to a standstill, it won't completely locked up
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 5 2025, 08:57 PM)
Same battery as old myvi and axia without start stop

Battery code 38b20l
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 5 2025, 09:01 PM)
It's a normal 12V lead acid battery however because of it's special casing design it cannot be used in ICE because it cannot be secured safely. So owners of EV has no choice but to buy batteries from SC only. Knowing how genius owners are, yup I have seen ICE batteries fitted into EV and it's not secured at all, then ask apahal battery cepat Kong ya ?
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is it "normal" lead acid? i thought it is those deep cycle lead acid battery like those used in auto gate and as some(older) solar battery.. also EV dun need the high CCA which needed by ICE to start the car..

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ May 5 2025, 08:28 PM)
Lanijiao lar. At the end of silap hari bulan both scenario also can die. Don't try to cover it.i buy car to prevent accident not give me free accident
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You still so dumb still dont get my point

Honda case is due to adas camera kena tipu with its surrounding. Maybe a shadow or something. It can happen to any car using the same system

BYD case is due to unknown causes which is extremely dangerous since it shuts down the whole car and lock up the wheels. This is unacceptable as its not supposed to shut down the car in whatever scenario
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 5 2025, 08:57 PM)
Same battery as old myvi and axia without start stop

Battery code 38b20l
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one guy say can plug in V2L adapter to get the main battery to charge the 12V battery
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The car is powered by LFP battery with high voltage but death on the road because the small old battery died ??? How
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 5 2025, 09:05 PM)
this is why i hate cars full of electronics inside

if this happens to an ICE car, at most the engine would stall...that's all
the car would glide to a standstill, it won't completely locked up
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No ah, happen to me twice on Volkswagen before.. alternator died on fast lane car shuts down and engages EPB. Had to dolly up tow truck

QUOTE(brkli @ May 5 2025, 09:05 PM)
is it "normal" lead acid? i thought it is those deep cycle lead acid battery like those used in auto gate and as some(older) solar battery.. also EV dun need the high CCA which needed by ICE to start the car..
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Yes normal lead acid

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