Jumped to different company. But really had to be careful when answering why applying exec role from manager role.

How did u explain to them why u jumped back to exec?

Totally agree. However, eventually the bs will backfire without the results. You cannot keep bs forever.

yeah and taichi-ing and cover ass is an extremely valuable skill

like my current role atm, because i am too honest in my work, im always picked on by boss as someone "incompetent" while my other colleagues who are no different but because they pandai make up story they are deemed more "reliable"

IT world kuli here 🙋‍♀️ likewise, it is common for us to also aim for managerial roles in career advancement. However, I went on to specialise into technical career path in my company. For the past 5+ years, there were two internal openings for people manager, both of which I applied and was shortlisted for interview. In both, I wasn't truly keen on the role but rather just going in to interview for the sake of experience. I guess I made my intentions clear enough, in the end I wasn't chosen. Coincidentally, in both rounds I had already received a promotion and/or job title change around those times, so I guess the disinterest was mutual -- management probably wanted to award the position to someone else who needed a bump on their career... And of course, the way I answered questions (too truthfully) kinda made me an undesirable pawn for the upper management, so I guess that sealed the coffin.

Now I'm glad I'm not chosen, because:
- one friend won the role, she complains a lot about juggling her hands on work and members' welfare a lot... Also the fact that a few other managers don't actually do that and they just let their members fend on their own lol.
- I watch that one dude who took the role, he's demotivated now and dealing with a toxic/egoistical team member who finds loopholes around the rules to his favour.
- I had the freedom to switch department without troubling team members (it's generally not nice to change boss, after all), and now I'm in a global entity. Not saying the grass here is greener, but I feel very challenged at my job, not because of people but more of the technical stuff so it doesn't feel painful in that sense.
- I finally got promoted this year, which proves once again, you don't have to be a people's manager to advance in career.

That said, I'm still not ktard 20k level

But once become manyzer, one can play politics and kacau subordinates. Toxic betul.

Just got promoted as country manager with more than 150 staff. I can relate. People are stupid.