Outline ·
[ Standard ] ·
Linear+
US admits defeat in hypersonic missile program
|
Raddus
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:15 PM
|
Getting Started

|
QUOTE(30624770 @ Apr 23 2025, 11:57 AM) But a lot of time the rat scares the elephant more than the elephant scare the rat Thats why US lost in Vietnam and left a mess in Iraq and Afghanistan. Its more akin to humans vs rats / cockroaches Humans got all the anti rats pest technology spray bait poison but still cant get rid of the cockroaches / rat infestation This post has been edited by Raddus: Apr 23 2025, 02:16 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
Raddus
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:18 PM
|
Getting Started

|
QUOTE(30624770 @ Apr 23 2025, 12:10 PM) There is a big difference between fighting poorly equipped Talibans/Insurgents and a full fledge army. Even the poorly equipped Talibans and Insurgents managed to scare and hurt US badly. Americans and Americans supporters love to say they have better experience than everyone, but they forgot that China is not Taliban. It will be a lot of difference between fighting an enemy that can't shoot back and an enemy who can really shoot back. Afghanistan is a different breed The soviets also failed no country can control them
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ivan113
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:24 PM
|
|
QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Apr 23 2025, 10:08 AM) They don't really need it. Existing stocks of missiles and bombs enough to bomb China three times over. confirm there's a sohai like this trying to justified for the US lack of innovation.
|
|
|
|
|
|
caksz
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:26 PM
|
New Member
|
Maybe because unrealistic demand must be able to launch from fighter plane or their ship VLS launcher
|
|
|
|
|
|
zenix
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:27 PM
|
|
QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Apr 22 2025, 10:38 PM) Sometimes i also suspect whether US military really that advanced. Even sanctioned Russia also able to make hypersonics. Is it all propaganda and only effective against terrorist and low tech country? murica marketing 100% substance 10%
|
|
|
|
|
|
SiakapRM1000
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:28 PM
|
Getting Started

|
QUOTE(nasiputih @ Apr 22 2025, 10:36 PM) HALO is cancelled?!!! wadepak sony. because after launched it will turned up : HAIYAA.....!!!! so better cancel
|
|
|
|
|
|
ceras
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:28 PM
|
|
makes better sense to source OEM from China. You can brand it anything you want it to be...... "Missile of America"
|
|
|
|
|
|
takbodoh722
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:29 PM
|
New Member
|
QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Apr 23 2025, 02:24 PM) confirm there's a sohai like this trying to justified for the US lack of innovation. Only a true sohai will ignore decades of US innovation in refining killing into an art, and justify a narrow perception with a single act. this is not a justification but a recognition of existing murican might.
|
|
|
|
|
|
diffyhelman2
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:30 PM
|
|
QUOTE(Raddus @ Apr 23 2025, 02:15 PM) Its more akin to humans vs rats / cockroaches Humans got all the anti rats pest technology spray bait poison but still cant get rid of the cockroaches / rat infestation Got. Chemical weapons but environmentalists complain
|
|
|
|
|
|
sunami
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:31 PM
|
|
aiks...i tot they said china copied them? kek... memang tak tau malu these whitesausages yang amdk /k suka hisap
|
|
|
|
|
|
Avex
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:37 PM
|
|
QUOTE(6so @ Apr 23 2025, 01:02 PM) Einstein...the last time PLA in action is Sino-Vietnam war that only lasted 3 weeks. So you are telling me they know how to do battle without practical experience. Ukraine war tell us you don't need the latest and greatest armory but adapting to enemy's weakness. It's the guerilla warfare and exploiting what little they have. Russia's Three Days invasion of Ukraine still ongoing. The era of shock and awe invasion has long gone because globalization of military industry complex. Turkey and South Korea becoming alternative supply to US. While CCP goods have never been tested in actual war. Before Ukraine war, countries buys Russian arms because they are tested on actual war and cheap. In the history of warfare, guerilla warfare always wins against bigger army. From WW1 to Afghanistan. It's fact spirited fighters with a cause has more conviction that an army just following order. Vietcong using rat tunnels, Taliban using IEDs, Ukrainian using commercial drones,etc.... china drones are well used in ukraine and russia battlefield, dji and other farm drones are used, even china made 3D printing machines are churning out self design drones for ukraine. This post has been edited by Avex: Apr 23 2025, 02:38 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
cop23
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:38 PM
|
Getting Started

|
let CCP supply to other country and backdoor beli copy jer laaaa. why waste money do RND. ini pun mau ajar ka.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TS30624770
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:38 PM
|
Getting Started

|
QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Apr 23 2025, 03:29 PM) Only a true sohai will ignore decades of US innovation in refining killing into an art, and justify a narrow perception with a single act. this is not a justification but a recognition of existing murican might. A might that has never really been tested but touted as the best in Hollywood and a lot of people believe it The reality is the so called might has stumbled badly even fighting poorly equiped Vietcong, Taliban and Insurgents Of course the easy way out is just say everyone fails when fighting guerilla warfare
|
|
|
|
|
|
Raddus
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:40 PM
|
Getting Started

|
QUOTE(30624770 @ Apr 23 2025, 02:38 PM) A might that has never really been tested but touted as the best in Hollywood and a lot of people believe it The reality is the so called might has stumbled badly even fighting poorly equiped Vietcong, Taliban and Insurgents Of course the easy way out is just say everyone fails when fighting guerilla warfare What country has defeated guerilla warfare?
|
|
|
|
|
|
takbodoh722
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:43 PM
|
New Member
|
QUOTE(30624770 @ Apr 23 2025, 02:38 PM) A might that has never really been tested but touted as the best in Hollywood and a lot of people believe it
The reality is the so called might has stumbled badly even fighting poorly equiped Vietcong, Taliban and Insurgents
Of course the easy way out is just say everyone fails when fighting guerilla warfare 60+ fighter squadrons and a whole load of bomber squadrons. 11 aircraft carriers. That's not a capability tasked for anti-terrorism. Some people can pretend US is a paper tiger. I don't agree that's the reality.
|
|
|
|
|
|
diffyhelman2
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:45 PM
|
|
QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Apr 23 2025, 02:43 PM) 60+ fighter squadrons and a whole load of bomber squadrons. 11 aircraft carriers. That's not a capability tasked for anti-terrorism. Some people can pretend US is a paper tiger. I don't agree that's the reality. Expensive white elephants if they can’t get them into the fight because of aa/ad. Somehow usa hasn’t publicly come up with a solution to aa/ad.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TS30624770
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:47 PM
|
Getting Started

|
QUOTE(Raddus @ Apr 23 2025, 03:40 PM) What country has defeated guerilla warfare? Your living in it 😜
|
|
|
|
|
|
RegentCid
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:52 PM
|
|
QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Apr 23 2025, 01:43 PM) 60+ fighter squadrons and a whole load of bomber squadrons. 11 aircraft carriers. That's not a capability tasked for anti-terrorism. Some people can pretend US is a paper tiger. I don't agree that's the reality. 11 Carrier...8 are Nimitz Class...going retired in this 2025 - 2026 US left only 3 Carrier
|
|
|
|
|
|
takbodoh722
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:53 PM
|
New Member
|
QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 23 2025, 02:45 PM) Expensive white elephants if they can’t get them into the fight because of aa/ad. Somehow usa hasn’t publicly come up with a solution to aa/ad. when people insist sun shines at night, no need to argue. ACE, new USMC conops etc all ignore. Don't realise that it means arguing all those buyers of murican military equipment (including bolehland btw) are all bodoh. I only lol.
|
|
|
|
|
|
takbodoh722
|
Apr 23 2025, 02:54 PM
|
New Member
|
QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 23 2025, 02:52 PM) 11 Carrier...8 are Nimitz Class...going retired in this 2025 - 2026 US left only 3 Carrier Uncle, when Uncle SAM retire 1 carrier, they commission another. Otherwise 5000 sailors + 30000 civilian support have to terminate employment.
|
|
|
|
|