Ain't DotA in WCG 2006....oh you mean you want international recognition for DotA izit...

Then use Battlenet....since then you can fight it out with international players....4 I noe that some of you guys use the 'other' server...

@ Golden:

True CS is a mod but it has about 4 well-known official WCG maps to shake things up for example:

1.De_Dust
2.De_Dust 2
3.De_Nuke
4.De_Inferno

As for DotA lets see :

1.1 map comprised of 3 lanes with a river down the middle.

Even in the version 6.xx is there no changes in the design of the map...so tell you what...give DotA maps more variety and maybe it will enter WCG. Oh and BTW...you DotA players best watch your types and words since the main reason most of the haters hates it is because of your inability to tolerate noobs no matter how hard they want to learn.

WCG products?? like what?? i would like to support their product.

OKay...now let me ask you a question....

If you think WCG disrespects DotA then why not say that DotA disrespects the Malaysian gaming community...

Besides the occasional FIFA....MSR....CS competitions...how many other games have other tournaments that are not WCG...

How many Quake , UT , CoH or even vanilla War3 tournaments have you seen these days...the amount of these tournaments can be clearly counted on 1 hand...

And let me ask you another thing...the DotA nationals grand prize is RM33k whereas the WCG national finals is a miserable RM8k for CS plus other stuffs like Computers and such but really RM33k can get you all this and more...

So please do some more research as to why we think that there is too much DotA tournaments here and the last thing we need is for it to go to WCG. For God's sake if one person here were to win all the DotA tournaments that is in this subforum....he would be richer than Jonathan 'Fatal1ty' Wendle in around 1.5 years....or less...

So don't you dare say that WCG insults DotA...as DotA insults other games in the gaming community here.

Stop buying their products? WTF products does WCG promote OR sell?

And WCG disrespects DoTA? In what sense? You're talking nonsense.


And WCG doesn't deal with terrorists.

http://www.worldcybergames.com/poll/selection2008.asp

No DotA in WCG2008... what a nightmare...

Bravo for them then !!!

4 well known official wcg maps ? hello before it became "well known offical wcg map" what was it? before cs was an official game?

and 2nd its not because of variety of maps ..one of the reason because of game duration , average duration of offical games are around 15-30minutes per game whereas dota average games are as long as 60minutes and it can go up to 2 hours , which is why icefrog removed the regeneration ability of tower so that the game woudlt drag (but now a game can drag very long because of crow)

and another issue with dota is the balance issue, blizzard spokesman before has mentioned that what makes it hard for dota to be an offical game is because of balance issue there are many heroes with different ability on both sides so it will be very hard to balance the game (during that time normal pick was the offical competitive mode but that is no longer a problem anymore since now all competitive dota is using -ap(xl) draft mode)

and about inability to tolerate noob.

unlike cs u only have to wait for at most 4minutes for next round but for dota once you have a noob teammate youre stuck with him until the game ends and the noob player can affect the game alot which can easily make those hot tempered guy angry lol .but as far the competitive gaming scene this is not really a problem

This post has been edited by Flizzardo: Nov 25 2007, 03:09 PM

It is not a nightmare.

Thank god. You all Dotarian already conquer most of the gaming community in this country.
99% of the competition is based on DOTA.. We hardly get other games tournament.

Dota here and there, no cyber cafe can survive if they dont install TFT+DOTA map.
enuff for the Dota i said.

why wud every1 wan DotA in WCG???? ;; dota has so many big cash tourney ady. better than WCG prize money summore. is up to WCG and the SPONSORS to choose the games anyway. if sum1 here really want dota in WCG, u got $$$$$$$$$ sponsor they surely put it in 1. no $$$$$$$ then just stay down and play other dota tourneys lah.. zzzz .. so easy... make life so complicated for wat, didn see anyone demanding dota for eswc? zzzzz...

every1 start buying big sweep and hit jackpot 3 million..... then go to korea, put those cash on the desk, ask them make dota in wcg happen, and every1 will call u father of all dota players.. LOL... i wud personally use the money for sth else..

just random spam.

lol steady..everyone of us have our own opinions. What radkliler said/wrote is acceptable. But during wcg2006 dota is just a mini tourney. Battlenet not that smooth. I think that what all the dota players want is having a world class tourney using LAN.
And u'r generalizing that all dota haters hate dota cuz they cant tolerate noobs -.-. I agreed with you that some dota players(pro/noob) have attitude problems.
Whether dota will successful in getting in WCG we will c about it Happen or not doesn't really matter.

if dota is included , i think standard warcraft 3 competition will totally die of in malaysia , look at the small community we have , in Malaysia ,we hav dota competitions so often in various cyber cafe, isn't tat enough ? about globally im not so sure about wat others think , but wat i knoe the dota scene is growing really fast

Fulamak, the WGT champion(war3) had spoken. xD

This post has been edited by KiLLing-z2: Nov 25 2007, 08:05 PM

yeah its growing very fast. IMO, all malaysians only focus in 1 game at a time. Like last time helbreath, RO and CS. During CS era, all tourney = CS tourney summore all tourney only used the de_dust map.(early early CS era)

IF SC2 come out, and all focus on SC2. Then we will ask for SC2 in WCG2008 and ask for more tourneys. Any diff with dota?

This post has been edited by oRoXoRo: Nov 26 2007, 03:01 PM

That's the whole problem isn't it? Why is everyone so obsessed with following the trend? Go against the trend, DARE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT!

Just because everyone's playing DoTA doesn't mean that you must as a gamer. There are plenty of other games out there worth YOUR attention. I find that many arguments from people that "Oh, i play b'coz my fren play" or " I don't want to feel left out" very weak. So what if your friends play DoTA? Doesn't mean you HAVE to force yourself to join. Sure, yeah...you may like the game, but you're restricting yourself!

This is the main problem for most Malaysian gamers.

I think y so many DOTA fanatics wan DOTA in WCG is that there are so many controversies on online international DOTA tournaments that leave a bad taste in everyone mouth regarding which nation DOTA is the best....

problems like delay, ghosting thru LIVE broadcasts, maphack, timezone issues are making online tournaments results debatable....

European is claiming domination over Asian DOTA cause they are dominating these online tournaments, while Asian is claiming the poor internet connection of their region for their poor showing on these tournaments....

so i guess thats why there is big demand for at least 1 wourldwide LAN DOTA tournament like WCG to decide once and for all who is really "King Of The World"

Does not apply as official game.

1) It is not created by blizzard
2) Its a custom map

Seconded that. Now,even CCs dont have latest games because of the DotA community.It's killing every other game community out there.Now,who actually care for new games like WiC,CoH or anything that looks better than DotA? 95% of Malaysian dont and im always the weirdo playing something else in CC.

Besides,it's making me sick to see C2D and 8-series cards are being used to play WC3.Those hardware are under used.

Thank gawd.

Seconded that.Maybe we should start a chain reaction to replace DotA with another game.

Totally understood. But there is nothing wrong if all follow the trend and if u wanna blame dota for killing other games? its kinda strange if u ask me. Those
tourney organizers usually host tourney that can attract more peoples and not because those dota players said "we only wan dota if no dota we will boycott it" (althou some dotards did said it).

Still im a middle man in this case cuz i support dota and hope that other games can shine. Just trying to defend dota so this thread wont be 1 sided.

This post has been edited by oRoXoRo: Nov 26 2007, 02:55 PM

I don't see how can this thread be 1 sided. We obviously got both side of stories here and it's still 50-50 ball possession for now.

Well, to people that sent emails to ICM, did you guys get any reply?

Cant u see? most of the recent posts are all non dota supporters. In order to encourage more ppl to vote i must post something positive about dota. The reason i said its 1 sided its because this thread getting more and more negative posts.

This post has been edited by oRoXoRo: Nov 26 2007, 01:32 PM