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post Feb 27 2025, 12:00 AM, updated 9 months ago

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Had a random thought again. My ex and admirers previously told me how some girls pursued and seduced them. They accepted some, but didn’t like others.

What I noticed was that their feelings for the women who pursued them weren’t as deep as when they pursued women (in this case, me).

So, I asked them why.

My ex said he was a gentleman, so he just accepted girls he felt were okay.

The analyst guy said he accepted out of curiosity but didn’t take things further.

The finance guy said it was for fun, and he didn’t have any intentions of getting serious with them.

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It makes me think...

While most men claim that they'd love to be desired and pursued by women, but...

If a woman pursues a man only to receive his partial affection or half-hearted/zero commitment, then why should she pursue him unless she doesn’t mind? hmm.gif

In my case, all three of them pursued me and were quite serious and persistent, so I tend to think that maybe...
In general, it’s better for men to initiate the pursuit, and women can give the greenlight afterward.

What do you guys think?

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post Feb 27 2025, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Feb 27 2025, 12:47 AM)
Second. Men pursuing women is probably a recent phenomenon if you consider the whole history of homo sapiens. The powerful men in the past got all the girls without even trying. Romance has only been introduced with mass media.
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Good point there. Romance in relationships or marriage was only introduced after the 18th century.

I guess the male-to-female ratio plays a part too. In Malaysia or countries where there are more males than females, men need to compete for local women.

On the other hand, in countries with more females than males, women pursue men.
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post Feb 27 2025, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 27 2025, 03:24 PM)
I like to know that woman is pursuing me. It tells me that she wants me. Very clear signal. Rather than I do all the job and no response from her.
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In such cases, most men would give it a try to see if it works?
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post Feb 27 2025, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Feb 27 2025, 09:32 PM)
As for why would a woman pursue, either she's highly dominant (so the guy has to be submissive) or she's just shooting her shot to get a guy way above her league. Its more common than you'd think. This is also why most men are not serious with such women; not only is their social status lower, but giving herself up like that also signals that she herself isn't picky and thus the guy won't feel "chosen".
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Legit point.

To further add, my ex did say he was turned off by women who were too easy.

Me: but free sex for you? you don't want meh?

Ex: I'm not desperate. I have class ok. & I don't know what disease those women have.


& you're right about men wanting to feel they're chosen, not preyed upon by women.
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post Feb 27 2025, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 27 2025, 10:20 PM)
The girl who is pursuing me, I know she is interested. Tested her few times and she passed my test. So I don't mind her pursuing her. Of course can't let her do all the work. I also need to put in my own effort.
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Can you elaborate?

Like, what is considered a pursuit by women?

Does it mean a girl come to you, ask you out, want to get to know you, or ask you to consider a relationship?

And if she passes your test, does that mean you pursue her by asking her out the next time? Or do you start messaging her more often?

(I've never pursued men first, so I don’t really know how it works. sweat.gif )

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post Feb 27 2025, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 27 2025, 10:39 PM)
I think that's it. I have never been pursued by a woman so this is my first time.
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Wow~~ Congrats! hehe... must be a good feeling for you then. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 28 2025, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 27 2025, 11:46 PM)
It is. She did told me, I hope you would pick me and I think I she is right. I am going to pick her as she passed all my test.

I don't care if she didn't initiate the pursue as most important for me is she can pass my test.

She pursuing is just bonus for me.
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The FIRE/ frugality test?

Just curious what tests. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 28 2025, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Feb 28 2025, 08:38 AM)
everyone would be turned off when things are easily available
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On the other hand, if a woman subtly and slowly courted the guy, probably the guy would feel differently.
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Good point.

So guys like subtle and slow courting, huh?

Not always up for sex.

I recently came across a meaningful saying:

人这一生 遇到爱情、遇到性 都不足以让我们感到稀罕,最稀罕的就是遇到理解。
(Translation: In this life, encountering love or sex is not enough to make us feel amazed; the rarest thing is to encounter understanding.)

Is this what most men want from women?

Not just love and sex, but understanding them...

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post Feb 28 2025, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(quebix @ Feb 28 2025, 09:22 AM)
point of view from a "shy" guy here.

im an attractive guy, albeit a shy one.
so for many women, who usually is approached by guys easily, when it comes to me, they dont have the normal reaction.
they start thinking why their charms doesnt work on me?
they start feeling im hard to get, im a challenge. i become more and more interesting and attractive to them.
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well, these are my real life experiences. u guys wanna belip or not, i dont care. just sharing, if it can help someone out there.

i dont purposely "jual mahal" or hard to get, but im easily embarassed when put in these situations.
im a shy guy.
when another guy would have "ngappp!" and seal the deal, i would be shy and embarrassed, prompting the girl to tease, seduce me instead.
so what i can say is, given the "chance", even girls can make the first move / pursue first.
usually men pursue first because they took the chance or create the chance.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. Interesting and... amusing! You must be quite a catch, huh? LOL.

Just curious... so you just remained shy and didn't reciprocate? Didn't accept their advances?

Next question... why are you shy ah? Is it because you're not used to talking to girls, or feel too good to be true, or feel kamchiong, or you like the girls? haha

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You remind me of my analyst admirer... attractive, pursued by many girls, but shy. He pursued me first but he was so shy and nervous after that. After so many months apart, he still likes me and confesses his feelings through songs, but he doesn't wanna message with me. However, if I message him, he'll read quickly. Whatever I post online for him, he'll be sleepless after that. LOL. So cute.

I think he wants me to make some moves but I'm not sure if I should. It's his first time falling in love and he doesn't have any experience in dating.

Please advise me what to do. Your perspective as a shy guy will help me understand him better. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 28 2025, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 28 2025, 04:20 PM)
That one is one. Told her I am going to kena potong gaji by 50% (management hiring extra people to cut out overtime pay). If she want to walk away, I will be fine. If she wants to stay, I will be more than happy. She said I am not going anywhere.
Her lifestyle, her phone as bad as mine 😅, her handbags, don't mind living my life. Low maintenance girl. Very important for me.
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Wow~~ ngam your taste. hehe

Congrats to you biggrin.gif Enjoy your new relationship with her.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 28 2025, 04:20 PM)
It's not the sex.
Is you know she will be there for you when times are down.
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so this is what a man looks for?

OMG... then I must have done something right for the analyst guy.

He posted a very sad song after I messaged him (we hadn't talked for five months because I was so confused by his shyness and mixed signals).

The song title was: "My Heart Also Has Lonely Times"

Lyrics:
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Walao eh, when he posted that song, it made my heart ache so badly... so I comforted him.

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post Feb 28 2025, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Feb 28 2025, 07:27 PM)
Of course, don't all partners seek understanding from each other? Its not a relationship otherwise.
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Yeah, but women tend to think men want sex more than understanding... you know, 下半身思考 (think with the lower half of the body)…
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post Mar 2 2025, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Mar 1 2025, 01:15 AM)
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Those men in 50s 60s now, most of them have been brought up to serve and to protect. And most women of that generation were brought up to nurture the husband and the children. I think this generation of men will probably prefer to pursue and the women want to be pursued. Somehow relationships of the older generation are more genuine and balanced. They are brought up to fit into the family unit.

Now the younger generation is a mess. Not all of course, but prevalent than before. Men have lost their purpose, some don't even know what it means to be a man. No mission, no goals. Cornography kills any drive to win. Women get too much attention from social media that it skews their view about how a balanced relationship should be. They expect a lot from men and contributing to a relationship doesn't even cross their mind, what more pursuing men.
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To recap - women pursuing men may work better in modern dating scene if the woman believes that a relationship must be balanced, and if the man being pursued is a high value man.
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Yeah, I agree with your observation above. The older generations of men are, in general, better than the younger generations.

As for women pursuing men, it can work, but it should be done gracefully, without making oneself look desperate or cheap. Have some class in pursuing men. Sex is the lowest form of bait, something even hookers know how to use.

I appreciate women who pursue men while still maintaining their values and principles. Men respect such women and treat them well.
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post Mar 2 2025, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 1 2025, 10:02 AM)
If you understand a man, you'll know how important sex is for him.
Just like how many if a man understands a woman, he'll know how important it is for him to be supporting and listen to her rants and not provide solutions laugh.gif
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haha... I like your analogy.

Men want sex, love, and understanding. Basically, physical + emotional + mental = the complete experience. wink.gif
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QUOTE(quebix @ Feb 28 2025, 09:22 AM)
my experiences are, they are gonna start being aggressive, especially those beautiful ones.
i give 10 real life examples (with a few different girls)
1) putting on the song "Kiss Me" in the car while saying she wanted to kiss me ever since the first date
2) asking which bed/mattress to get because we are gonna "use" it together
3) when i wondered how does a person with tongue piercing kiss, offers to give me a French kiss
4) Asking me to go vacation with her, just the 2 of us ( she even has a boyfriend )
5) Asking me to contact her partner thru a website because the partner is looking for a threesome with a stranger. i cant tell her partner i know her.
6) Gave hints about how nice to stay at this hotel nearby. How she wants to try staying. when i didnt do anything (like get a room there) she leaned over and whispered, "if u dont have money for the hotel, i will pay for us". She did.
7) when in a room together, suddenly feels hot and take off clothes (it is airconditioned, i felt cold actually)
8) when in a room together, instead of going to a more private area to wipe herself with a wet towel (it was in summer)  she purposely wipe herself while revealing her sexy body to me. happened in a staff rest room.
9) when going to toilet to "freshen up" purposely go on top of me (cowgirl style) to get to the other side of the bed. she can easily get down on her side of the bed.
10) telling her other friends that she really really likes me when im like standing nearby and obviously can hear what she says.
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Reflecting further on quebix's experience.

Come to think of it, I don't do any of these to any men. Too easy, too low-class, and too desperate. Cringe. puke.gif

I have better skills than this. I'll share my approach:

Approach 1: My former biz/life coach

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Approach 2: The analyst guy

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Just sharing so you can learn from the dynamics of how a man and woman can pursue and court each other in a refined, thoughtful, and meaningful manner.

This is the kind of classic, slow-burn romance we need more of in today’s sex-obsessed society, where love and relationships are often sought like fast food and easily discarded once the initial infatuation fades.

Quoting Nat King Cole's famous lyrics from "When I Fall In Love":

"In a restless world like this is, love is ended before it's begun, and too many moonlight kisses seem to cool in the warmth of the sun."

What is fast, burns out.
What is slow, lasts.

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post Mar 2 2025, 02:26 AM

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Lyrics:
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Smooth, soulful vibe with a touch of nostalgia and tender. Perfect for slow dance.

So nice to be loved and to love this way wub.gif

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QUOTE(Hastebreak @ Mar 2 2025, 09:12 PM)
For women who knows how to carry themselves out there to look presentable, how to stay fit, etc, they generally will not have issues with guys finding them.

For women who are not the above, or the less attractive ones, they are in desperation mode to find someone else to fertilize their eggs. Although it might sound harsh, this is actually a life experience that beautiful women do not know what it's like, but it happens...
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That's true.

& those less attractive women tend to attract male counterparts? or will they aim for men above their league? hmm.gif
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post Mar 3 2025, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(Hastebreak @ Mar 3 2025, 12:29 AM)
Honestly, I stammered upon reading this thread yesterday (Sunday) afternoon. I was wondering if it was a coincidence or not, because the MNC I'm working in, the finance manager girl is chasing after me.  biggrin.gif
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Good points... and

Wooooo~ someone is attractive here eh? haha

What you gonna do? brows.gif

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post Mar 3 2025, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(quebix @ Mar 3 2025, 04:33 PM)
Just like u said somewhere in this thread....this makes the girl feel kinda cheap, easy, desperate, and lose the attractiveness to me.
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So, dont think your analyst guy is all that innocent! he might be exploiting his shyness to get you. lol.

advise:
the examples i given might sound like the girls were desperate and cheap, and yes they are. but yeah, i also have pursuers that have more class and tries to win my heart instead of my body, just like how you are doing with your analyst guy.
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it might not be cheap/whorish, but then again, your attempts to win his heart might also be seen as desperate.
it is not a game, but there should be some "hard to get" from both sides. he pull you push, you also need to pull sometimes and he learns how to push.
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Thanks for your detailed reply. smile.gif

Here's the full context behind my current actions, just so you're aware:

Back in September 2024, he pursued me first, initiated dates, but repeatedly cancelled them. His inconsistent behaviour left me feeling confused.

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So, I decided to step back and give him the space to figure out his thoughts and emotions. Meanwhile, I went on dates with 10 other men—there were many who showed interest in me, and I decided to give each one a chance for three reasons: I wanted to feel desired again, I didn't want to close off my heart, and I wanted to remain open to new possibilities.

He was aware of these encounters because I openly shared my experiences on Facebook. I wrote about each pursuit and date—how I felt, what I learned about myself, and what I was looking for in my next relationship. My posts became a mix of personal introspection and an education for others who followed my journey. I shared my thoughts and insights on love and romance after becoming single again.

It was a form of inner healing for me, especially after ending an eight-year relationship and engagement that had left me heartbroken. Many of my friends, who had also gone through breakups or divorces, connected with my writing. They reached out privately to tell me how much comfort they found in my reflections, often drawing parallels with their own experiences.

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For five months, I didn’t speak to him at all. I put him aside because his actions, though unintentional, hurt me.

So, when he saw me meeting one man after another, I imagine he must have felt a mix of regret, jealousy, and uncertainty.

However, I believe my writing gave him clarity, as he understood exactly what I was looking for in my next partner. I was very clear about my expectations, detailing what I wanted from a future relationship and what I would offer in return.

He began signalling his interest again in December 2024, but I only started reciprocating in February 2025 (last month). He made another move, and I responded once more. The romantic gestures I made (listed in Approach 2) came after his five months of waiting in silence and loneliness, and they seem to have brought him a sense of comfort and reassurance.

Months of drought, and finally, some rain for three weeks. LOL.

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Given the context, I don't think my moves were desperate at all. This is something he’s craved badly.

I told him this is the first time I’ve ever courted a man like this. I’ve never done it for anyone else (fact!). If he’s smart, he’ll value it. Just because I’m making a few romantic moves doesn’t mean I’m lowering my worth. I’m simply reciprocating his signals and showing him a little extra affection. It’s a delicate dance between us. blush.gif

With that said, I still prefer men to pursue or at least signal interest to women first. Personally, I have never taken the first step to pursue any man because I just can't. I'm so used to being pursued by men rather than the other way around. Hence, it feels incredibly difficult and awkward for me to pursue boldly and openly (like those ladies Quebix met). At best, I can only hint at some interest (like in Approach 1) and reciprocate (like in Approach 2).
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post Mar 3 2025, 08:27 PM

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Just to further share my kind of introspective writing about love and romance:

10 October 2024

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I posted this publicly on my FB profile for all my friends to read. This is the kind of writing that heals me and touches others as well.

& the analyst guy reads every piece of my writing. wub.gif

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& I was extremely hesitant and struggled for weeks before I decided to respond to his reconnection signal. I had to call my mom, talk to my best friend, and pray first. Took me weeks to muster my courage. Yeah, it was so damn awkward and kamchiong. Then, I listened to this song:

Tell Him, by Celine Dion & Barbra Streisand

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Lyrics

I'm scared
So afraid to show I care
Will he think me weak
If I tremble when I speak?

Ooh, what if
There's another one he's thinking of?
Maybe he's in love
I'd feel like a fool
Life can be so cruel
I don't know what to do

I've been there
With my heart out in my hand
But what you must understand
You can't let the chance
To love him pass you by


Tell him
Tell him that the sun and moon
Rise in his eyes
Reach out to him

And whisper
Tender words so soft and sweet
I'll hold him close to feel his heart beat
Love will be the gift you give yourself

Touch him (ooh)
With the gentleness you feel inside (I feel it)
Your love can't be denied
The truth will set you free

You'll have what's meant to be
All in time you'll see

Ooh, I love him (then show him)
Of that much I can be sure (hold him close to you)
I don't think I could endure
If I let him walk away

When I have so much to say

Love is light that surely glows
In the hearts of those who know
It's a steady flame that grows
Feed the fire with all the passion you can show

Tonight love will assume its place
This memory time cannot erase
Your faith will lead love where it has to go


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Just sharing, this is how a woman feels when she hesitates to open up, especially if she’s been heartbroken before.

It’s also a song to encourage women to pursue, hint, or reciprocate, but with class and elegance.

If a guy likes you and you also like him, tell him.

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