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 China Telcos Are Removing US Network Equipments, Cisco Remotely Disabled RU Equipments

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post Jan 23 2025, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(mayhammer @ Jan 23 2025, 09:35 PM)
article say destroy physical. mana cakap kill switch?
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Jan 23 2025, 10:04 PM)
Whenever TS syok sendiri, he will have comprehension problem.
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jan 23 2025, 11:29 PM)
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https://dgap.org/en/research/publications/i...lecoms-industry - DGAP Analysis - The Impact and Limits of Sanctions on Russia’s Telecoms Industry
Maria Kolomychenko - 12 March 2024

.... I explain how the Russian telecoms sector functions, the reasons behind its total reliance on Western technology, and how it manages to survive under sanctions. I then examine three vectors that the Russian telecommunications industry is currently pursuing in detail:

- The continuation of the purchase of advanced Western telecom equipment using so-called gray or parallel imports
- The search for new suppliers in Asia and the forging of stronger ties with second-tier (“tier 2”) suppliers from countries that have not joined export restrictions toward Russia
- Attempts to stimulate the production of domestic telecom equipment and the transition of telecom operators to its use

This analysis lays out why large telecom operators in Russia are not ready to risk their business and experiment with unknown equipment. Instead, they willingly take advantage of the government’s permission to “parallel import” the necessary equipment. As a result, despite the withdrawal of global vendors like Cisco, Nokia, and Ericsson from the Russian market, their equipment worth tens of millions of dollars is still supplied to Russia. While these are huge figures in absolute terms, far more is needed to fully meet the industry’s needs.  ...

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So, how come Russia has been buying US$ millions of USA's Cisco equipment via parallel imports using 3rd-party countries like China and Israel.?
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Also, hidden kill switches =/= hidden backdoor spyware, and ...

"killing" subscription-based cloud services =/= hidden backdoor spyware.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=111115350


QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jan 23 2025, 11:41 PM)
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Fyi, .......

https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/lat...cl-co-comments/ - 17 Oct 2022
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James Rogers, MarketWatch
Cisco ended operations in Russia, but its gear allegedly being shipped through China & other countries; incl. co. comments

Cisco gear is being shipped into Russia from China and other countries, leaked customs database shows, 17 October 2022

A purportedly leaked Russian customs database shows around 500 shipments of Cisco gear arriving in Russia in August, months after the networking giant halted its business operations in that country.

Information extracted from the database and shared with MarketWatch appears to show that Cisco Systems Inc. products entered Russia from a number of countries, with the majority of shipments coming from China. Other countries of origin include Vietnam, Switzerland, Mexico, Malaysia, Australia, Thailand and Holland, as well as the U.S., according to the data.

In the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February, a host of major U.S. corporations, including Cisco, ended their Russian operations...

“On March 3, 2022, Cisco announced stopping all business operations in Russia and Belarus, including sales and services,” a Cisco spokesperson told MarketWatch via email. “This included discontinuing business with all Cisco partners and distributors in Russia and Belarus, which means they can no longer source products via authorized channels.

“On June 23, we announced the decision to begin an orderly wind-down of our business in Russia and Belarus,” the Cisco spokesperson added. “Cisco stands by this decision”... ....

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/inside-the-gra...russia-23b60391 - Inside the Gray Market Keeping Cisco Tech in Stock in Russia
Nearly a year after it stopped selling routers and other equipment, Cisco’s gear remains easy to buy - 14 Feb 2023

Weeks after Moscow invaded Ukraine, tech giant Cisco Systems Inc. stopped all sales of its hardware into Russia, and Washington issued a series of broad sanctions against the country, including restricting the sale of Cisco equipment. 

As the war approaches its first anniversary, that same gear is still easy to find at a range of retailers in Moscow. It is being supplied by a network of third-party vendors in places like Turkey and Asia that have sprung up without Cisco’s authorization and are largely out of reach of American enforcement. 

The U.S. has chided countries like Turkey and China for supplying Russia with gear that is aiding Moscow’s war effort or cushioning the blow of Western sanctions. But Western goods—while greatly curtailed—are still pouring into the country, too. 

Tracking how Cisco products still make it into the country helps take measure of the difficulty in isolating Russia economically. 

From March to November, Russia imported $12.4 billion worth of goods subject to sanctions or export bans from the West, including the sort of telecommunications equipment that Cisco provides, according to an analysis of customs data from 31 countries by Brussels-based think tank Bruegel. ...

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jan 23 2025, 11:43 PM)
Article posted was pro US source Tom's Hardware. This is to prove they openly admitted that they(the US) themselves have backdoors and emergency kill switches planted in their own products while accusing China all the time.

If you read the Reddit threads, you'll know it starts with soft kill switch disabling followed by physical destruction to ensure the Russians cannot unlock the soft switches and take over them for reverse engineering.

Meraki Disabled Switches in Russia
https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/...ware_in_russia/
https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/..._and_destroyed/

https://www.cisco.com/c/m/en_us/crisissupport.html#~faqs

They are all planted with hidden kill switches.
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My reposts fyi.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jan 23 2025, 11:53 PM)
Most of Russian 5G development is old 5 years or more news on US sites because you won't get anymore latest development from them due to security reasons after their relations broke off.

Huawei to develop 5G network in Russia - 5 years ago old news


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It's a smart move
Even Intel and AMD is compromised. Microsoft also
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jan 24 2025, 12:16 AM)
Most of Russian 5G development is old 5 years or more news on US sites because you won't get anymore latest development from them due to security reasons after their relations broke off.

Huawei to develop 5G network in Russia - 5 years ago old news


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Fyi, my above reposts are about Russia's existing 4G/3G/2G network equipment, not 5G, because Russia has yet to launch commercial 5G operations, .......

https://www.intellinews.com/5g-in-russia-hi...ad-bump-339408/ - 5G in Russia hits a road bump - 21 Aug 2024

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/...ipment-in-2025/ - Russia outlines plan to pilot 5G networks on homegrown equipment in 2025 - 8 March 2023
= Huawei is afraid to openly supply 5G equipment to Russia for fear of kena trade sanctions by USA, the EU and their allies.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jan 24 2025, 01:00 AM)
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Fyi, my above reposts are about Russia's existing 4G/3G/2G network equipment, not 5G, because Russia has yet to launch commercial 5G operations, .......

https://www.intellinews.com/5g-in-russia-hi...ad-bump-339408/ - 5G in Russia hits a road bump - 21 Aug 2024

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/...ipment-in-2025/ - Russia outlines plan to pilot 5G networks on homegrown equipment in 2025 - 8 March 2023
= Huawei is afraid to openly supply 5G equipment to Russia for fear of kena trade sanctions by USA, the EU and their allies.
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Huawei is ALREADY sanctioned heavily by US and Europe today. They can only access markets which are aligned to BRICS and emerging economies for expansion.

Not just 5G, Huawei has helped Russia to build a vast and modern FTTH fiber to home networks across the country. They don't even need the Middle East to access Europe via submarine cables but instead a direct landcable links China to Europe is possible.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jan 24 2025, 01:06 AM)
Huawei is ALREADY sanctioned heavily by US and Europe today. They can only access markets which are aligned to BRICS and emerging economies for expansion.

Not just 5G, Huawei has helped Russia to build a vast and modern FTTH fiber to home networks across the country. They don't even need the Middle East to access Europe via submarine cables but instead a direct landcable links China to Europe is possible.
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AFAIK, presently, mostly only Huawei's smartphones/tablets are affected by U.S trade sanctions, ie Huawei 5G equipment is not affected by the sanctions but has been banned by USA for national security reasons from being deployed in USA = not sanctioned.
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Fyi, .......

https://www.aeb.com/en/magazine/articles/hu...lobal-trade.php - US Entity List? The impacts of Huawei sanctions on global traders
Huawei and 68 affiliated companies have been on the US Entity List for some time. But why are these US sanctions relevant for traders in Europe and Asia? - 04/05/2020

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= AFAIK, if Huawei openly supplies Russia with 5G equipment, USA can apply further trade sanctions on Huawei, eg U Mobile and DNB2 may be sanctioned by USA if DNB2 buys Huawei 5G equipment.
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Jan 23 2025, 11:30 AM)
If U have beef with US kenot just say Americunt? Why drag the whole west with US fucking A?
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the entire west is cunts la.

Just accept it lel.
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Jan 23 2025, 12:39 PM)
Western countries are not making a claim on the South China Sea.
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They just invade and took over. Where did you think USA got Texas from?

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jan 23 2025, 09:56 PM)
DNB erricsson

U mobile without any pressure would probably opt for Huawei if they havent done so
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It's already known huawei is funding and supporting umobile

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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jan 24 2025, 05:47 AM)
the entire west is cunts la.

Just accept it lel.
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Yes tats including you too. Kek!
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jan 23 2025, 07:14 PM)
Cisco Destroyed $23.5 Million Worth of Equipment During Russia Exit
And writes off $67 million worth of assets

Tom's Hardware: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cisco-des...pment-in-russia
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no issues, claim from printing money papa
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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Jan 23 2025, 10:18 PM)
Both will accuse each other equipment problems.
But I bet to most neutral nations Huawei might win since they have biggest advantage, low cost.
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Low cost alone doesn’t win. If you’ve used both huawei and cisco, you’ll know which is better. That being said, Hiawei isn’t bad. Its just not as good as cisco. Thats why cisco still surviving.
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QUOTE(judas @ Jan 24 2025, 12:28 AM)
It's a smart move
Even Intel and AMD is compromised. Microsoft also
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Need to stop posting in /k dy. Even the board provider also amdk, later spy drone track down your location liao.
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Jan 23 2025, 11:14 PM)
Yes tats including you too. Kek!
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the one called pink calling someone cunt. Omaigosh.
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jan 24 2025, 08:57 AM)
the one called pink calling someone cunt. Omaigosh.
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No one here needs too, u already called urself tat. Topkek!
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Jan 24 2025, 01:19 AM)
No one here needs too,  u already called urself tat. Topkek!
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makan what firecracker today? So big punya API?
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jan 24 2025, 09:29 AM)
makan what firecracker today? So big punya API?
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As they say ignorance is bliss.
But still funny u calling urself cunt. Lol!
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Jan 24 2025, 01:31 AM)
As they say ignorance is bliss.
But still funny u calling urself cunt. Lol!
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really start to question your sanity liao.

Today salah ubat or lupa makan ubat? Each reply fully equipped with API to cari pesal?
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jan 24 2025, 11:13 AM)
really start to question your sanity liao.

Today salah ubat or lupa makan ubat? Each reply fully equipped with API to cari pesal?
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Keep up ur ignorance its laughable. lol!

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