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post Jan 23 2025, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(mayhammer @ Jan 23 2025, 09:35 PM)
article say destroy physical. mana cakap kill switch?
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Jan 23 2025, 10:04 PM)
Whenever TS syok sendiri, he will have comprehension problem.
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jan 23 2025, 11:29 PM)
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https://dgap.org/en/research/publications/i...lecoms-industry - DGAP Analysis - The Impact and Limits of Sanctions on Russia’s Telecoms Industry
Maria Kolomychenko - 12 March 2024

.... I explain how the Russian telecoms sector functions, the reasons behind its total reliance on Western technology, and how it manages to survive under sanctions. I then examine three vectors that the Russian telecommunications industry is currently pursuing in detail:

- The continuation of the purchase of advanced Western telecom equipment using so-called gray or parallel imports
- The search for new suppliers in Asia and the forging of stronger ties with second-tier (“tier 2”) suppliers from countries that have not joined export restrictions toward Russia
- Attempts to stimulate the production of domestic telecom equipment and the transition of telecom operators to its use

This analysis lays out why large telecom operators in Russia are not ready to risk their business and experiment with unknown equipment. Instead, they willingly take advantage of the government’s permission to “parallel import” the necessary equipment. As a result, despite the withdrawal of global vendors like Cisco, Nokia, and Ericsson from the Russian market, their equipment worth tens of millions of dollars is still supplied to Russia. While these are huge figures in absolute terms, far more is needed to fully meet the industry’s needs.  ...

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So, how come Russia has been buying US$ millions of USA's Cisco equipment via parallel imports using 3rd-party countries like China and Israel.?
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Also, hidden kill switches =/= hidden backdoor spyware, and ...

"killing" subscription-based cloud services =/= hidden backdoor spyware.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=111115350


QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jan 23 2025, 11:41 PM)
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Fyi, .......

https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/lat...cl-co-comments/ - 17 Oct 2022
Author:
James Rogers, MarketWatch
Cisco ended operations in Russia, but its gear allegedly being shipped through China & other countries; incl. co. comments

Cisco gear is being shipped into Russia from China and other countries, leaked customs database shows, 17 October 2022

A purportedly leaked Russian customs database shows around 500 shipments of Cisco gear arriving in Russia in August, months after the networking giant halted its business operations in that country.

Information extracted from the database and shared with MarketWatch appears to show that Cisco Systems Inc. products entered Russia from a number of countries, with the majority of shipments coming from China. Other countries of origin include Vietnam, Switzerland, Mexico, Malaysia, Australia, Thailand and Holland, as well as the U.S., according to the data.

In the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February, a host of major U.S. corporations, including Cisco, ended their Russian operations...

“On March 3, 2022, Cisco announced stopping all business operations in Russia and Belarus, including sales and services,” a Cisco spokesperson told MarketWatch via email. “This included discontinuing business with all Cisco partners and distributors in Russia and Belarus, which means they can no longer source products via authorized channels.

“On June 23, we announced the decision to begin an orderly wind-down of our business in Russia and Belarus,” the Cisco spokesperson added. “Cisco stands by this decision”... ....

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/inside-the-gra...russia-23b60391 - Inside the Gray Market Keeping Cisco Tech in Stock in Russia
Nearly a year after it stopped selling routers and other equipment, Cisco’s gear remains easy to buy - 14 Feb 2023

Weeks after Moscow invaded Ukraine, tech giant Cisco Systems Inc. stopped all sales of its hardware into Russia, and Washington issued a series of broad sanctions against the country, including restricting the sale of Cisco equipment. 

As the war approaches its first anniversary, that same gear is still easy to find at a range of retailers in Moscow. It is being supplied by a network of third-party vendors in places like Turkey and Asia that have sprung up without Cisco’s authorization and are largely out of reach of American enforcement. 

The U.S. has chided countries like Turkey and China for supplying Russia with gear that is aiding Moscow’s war effort or cushioning the blow of Western sanctions. But Western goods—while greatly curtailed—are still pouring into the country, too. 

Tracking how Cisco products still make it into the country helps take measure of the difficulty in isolating Russia economically. 

From March to November, Russia imported $12.4 billion worth of goods subject to sanctions or export bans from the West, including the sort of telecommunications equipment that Cisco provides, according to an analysis of customs data from 31 countries by Brussels-based think tank Bruegel. ...

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jan 23 2025, 11:43 PM)
Article posted was pro US source Tom's Hardware. This is to prove they openly admitted that they(the US) themselves have backdoors and emergency kill switches planted in their own products while accusing China all the time.

If you read the Reddit threads, you'll know it starts with soft kill switch disabling followed by physical destruction to ensure the Russians cannot unlock the soft switches and take over them for reverse engineering.

Meraki Disabled Switches in Russia
https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/...ware_in_russia/
https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/..._and_destroyed/

https://www.cisco.com/c/m/en_us/crisissupport.html#~faqs

They are all planted with hidden kill switches.
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My reposts fyi.
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post Jan 24 2025, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jan 24 2025, 12:16 AM)
Most of Russian 5G development is old 5 years or more news on US sites because you won't get anymore latest development from them due to security reasons after their relations broke off.

Huawei to develop 5G network in Russia - 5 years ago old news


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Fyi, my above reposts are about Russia's existing 4G/3G/2G network equipment, not 5G, because Russia has yet to launch commercial 5G operations, .......

https://www.intellinews.com/5g-in-russia-hi...ad-bump-339408/ - 5G in Russia hits a road bump - 21 Aug 2024

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/...ipment-in-2025/ - Russia outlines plan to pilot 5G networks on homegrown equipment in 2025 - 8 March 2023
= Huawei is afraid to openly supply 5G equipment to Russia for fear of kena trade sanctions by USA, the EU and their allies.
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post Jan 24 2025, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jan 24 2025, 01:06 AM)
Huawei is ALREADY sanctioned heavily by US and Europe today. They can only access markets which are aligned to BRICS and emerging economies for expansion.

Not just 5G, Huawei has helped Russia to build a vast and modern FTTH fiber to home networks across the country. They don't even need the Middle East to access Europe via submarine cables but instead a direct landcable links China to Europe is possible.
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AFAIK, presently, mostly only Huawei's smartphones/tablets are affected by U.S trade sanctions, ie Huawei 5G equipment is not affected by the sanctions but has been banned by USA for national security reasons from being deployed in USA = not sanctioned.
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Fyi, .......

https://www.aeb.com/en/magazine/articles/hu...lobal-trade.php - US Entity List? The impacts of Huawei sanctions on global traders
Huawei and 68 affiliated companies have been on the US Entity List for some time. But why are these US sanctions relevant for traders in Europe and Asia? - 04/05/2020

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= AFAIK, if Huawei openly supplies Russia with 5G equipment, USA can apply further trade sanctions on Huawei, eg U Mobile and DNB2 may be sanctioned by USA if DNB2 buys Huawei 5G equipment.
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post Jan 24 2025, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jan 24 2025, 05:47 AM)
the entire west is cunts la.

Just accept it lel.
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It is a well-proven fact that communist, dictator, military and extreme-theocratic (like Iran) countries like CCP China are more cunt/evil.

Just accept it lah.
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post Jan 24 2025, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE((Hobbez @ Jan 23 2025 @ 12:39 PM)
Western countries are not making a claim on the South China Sea.
QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 24 2025, 06:05 AM)
They just invade and took over. Where did you think USA got Texas from?
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@ touristking, ....... Please leave the 19th century behind and be in the 21st century.

Fyi, in 109BC, China invaded and conquered Korea.
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jan 19 2025, 04:01 PM)
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Fyi, .......

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/google-shuts...apps-on-mate-30 - Google Shuts Huawei 'Backdoor' for Play Store Apps on Mate 30 - 3 Oct 2019

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/us-finds-h...ly-report-says/ - US finds Huawei has backdoor access to mobile networks globally, report says
The Chinese tech giant has reportedly had access to carrier equipment for over a decade. - 12 Feb 2020


Note that every Chinese company has to do the bidding of CCP China, otherwise they get "disappeared", eg .......

https://www.nationthailand.com/international/40006614 - Meng Wanzhou can return to China, admits helping Huawei conceal dealings in Iran - 25 Sep 2021
NEW YORK - Meng Wanzhou, a top Huawei Technologies executive detained for nearly three years in Canada, can return home to China after striking a deal with U.S. Justice Department officials in which she acknowledged helping to conceal the companys direct dealings in Iran, which violated U.S. sanctions. ...
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jan 22 2025, 08:59 PM)
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My repost below fyi, .......

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=111093531

Also, recently, .......

https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/...asury-telecoms/ - US Sanctions Chinese Hackers for Treasury, Telecom Breaches - 20 Jan 2025
.... Responding to Escalating Chinese Hacks on US Infrastructure

The recent Treasury and Telecoms hacks highlight the “increasingly reckless” cyber activity by the People’s Republic of China (PRC) government and affiliated actors, OFAC said.

The latest sanctions follow several similar designations recently issued against individuals and companies connected with PRC-backed cyber-attacks on US targets. ...

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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jan 23 2025, 02:24 PM)
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Example, ......

https://www.computerworld.com/article/17101...nt-edition.html - For real Windows 10 privacy, you need the China Government Edition - 12 June 2017
Windows 10 is infamous for having snooping baked in, but one government stood up for user privacy. Oh, the irony!

Because Windows doesn’t make much money for Microsoft these days, the company decided, beginning in Windows 10, that snooping on users à la Google and Facebook could be profitable. But one country said enough was enough. It would stand up for its users’ “privacy.” That country? The People’s Republic of China.

Cough. Didn’t see that one coming, did you?

Well, I say “privacy” because China is infamous for tracking its computer users and censoring the internet with the Great Firewall of China. But just because the powers that be in Beijing want to know every move their citizens make doesn’t mean they want Microsoft joining in on the spying.

So China gave Microsoft a choice: Rip out its snoopware, or forget about selling Windows 10 to government or enterprise customers. Microsoft, never known for turning down a dollar or a yuan, caved.
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Note that the US Constitution prohibits the powerful US government from spying or invading the privacy of her citizens except for law enforcement purposes, eg against terrorists, foreign spies, organized crime syndicates, pedophiles, etc, ... besides from restricting her citizens' right to freedom of religion, freedom to bear arms, freedom of speech, freedom of the Press, freedom to protest peacefully, freedom to pursue prosperity, etc.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jan 24 2025, 02:20 PM)
Don't waste your time arguing with AMDK agents,  today I've started preparing to stock up my food supply inventory for coming CNY. laugh.gif

Posted this news initially to let everyone know the devil shouts victim more in today's modern day deceptions.

So before governments think about the threats Western companies always claim that China might spy on you, they should rethink and re-examine the accuser instead whether they are doing the same.

Peace to the others. icon_rolleyes.gif
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My above reposts fyi, ie CCP China and their lackey-companies do spy on their residents, hack foreigners, etc.
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QUOTE(Viper236 @ Jan 24 2025, 09:38 PM)
First, your confidence level only more than 50%? for a country to be annexed it should be overwhelming majority somewhere 80% by right. If 49% of the population don't agree it is still a massive population to reconsider. Is the US willing to cast off these people in a separate land area with their own juridistion?

Second, by that logic Crimea, Donbas and Kharkiv Oblast who are majority pro -russian should have surrendered to Putin without Ukraine and USA intervention. Why USA and NATO go and KPKB?

Third, even if you are right la that Canada and Greenland agree, What about Panama, what about Maxico? Is threathening the sovereignty of these country acceptable? I don't neccesarily agree on China's aggressiveness on Taiwan issue and hope that useless and corrupted Lai can just FO asap, but for USA and AMDK's to talk so loudly about China disrespecting sovereignty while simultaneously defending USA on its repeatedly sovereignty violation its just double speak on steroids. Don't even get me started on the sanctions on Cuba and middle east issues.
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Greenland, Panama Canal and Canada are just some more insane ideas from Pres.Trump that will come to nought, as per .......
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump...4b0d17409602b90 - 62 Things Trump Did That You Forgot About To Preserve Your Sanity
Donald Trump's running for president again, so you can look forward to more of his "fun" ideas — like the time he tried to buy Greenland.
- 3 Dec 2022


Is CCP China/Pres.Xi's aggressiveness and threats on Taiwan, South Korea (via it's stooge North Korea), the South China Sea islands/reefs, Indian border, Bhutan border, etc, sound like the 64+++ insane ideas of Pres.Trump.?
....... Remember, CCP China annexed Tibet in 1951. Eg, .......

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/header-china-...constructed-22/ - China Has Constructed 22 Villages In Bhutan; Eyes Doklam For Strategic Supremacy Over India: New Report - 17 Oct 2024
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Our discusion about Greenland, Panama Canal and Canada is about Pres.Trump's insane ideas vs Pres.Xi's not-insane ideas and evil actions, not about USA vs CCP China.
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QUOTE((Viper236 @ Jan 24 2025, 09:38 PM)
I don't neccesarily agree on China's aggressiveness on Taiwan issue and ....
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jan 25 2025 @ 01:02 PM)
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Is CCP China/Pres.Xi's aggressiveness and threats on Taiwan

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= I was just somewhat repeating what you had said and fyi, .......

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/0...y-trump-taiwan/ - China’s Xi addresses economic challenges, threatens Taiwan in New Year speech - 1 Jan 2025
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jan 25 2025 @ 01:02 PM)
South Korea (via it's stooge North Korea)
QUOTE(Viper236 @ Jan 25 2025, 02:39 PM)

SK is NK is a civil war within the Korean's business, dont conveniently pull in China politics in this ...

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Fyi, .......

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/...ers-2023-07-21/ - 2023/07/21 - Exclusive: G7, others ask China to stop North Korea sanctions evasion in its waters
UNITED NATIONS, July 21 (Reuters) - The Group of Seven, European Union and three other countries plan to appeal to China for help to stop North Korea evading United Nations sanctions by using Chinese territorial waters, according to their letter seen by Reuters on Friday.

"We have concerns regarding the continuing presence of multiple oil tankers ... that use your territorial waters in Sansha Bay as refuge to facilitate their trade of sanctioned petroleum products to the DPRK," said the letter to be sent to China's U.N. Ambassador Zhang Jun.

The letter - signed by G7 members the United States, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and Britain, plus Australia, New Zealand, South Korea and the European Union - will provide satellite images that "clearly indicates these practices continued to occur within China's jurisdiction in 2022 and have continued in 2023."
North Korea, formally named Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK), has been under U.N. sanctions for its missiles and nuclear programs since 2006. This includes an annual cap of its imports of refined petroleum and crude oil, imposed in 2017. ...


https://apnews.com/article/china-north-kore...1f62ea8e5bc25c5 - 3 Nov 2023 - China supported sanctions on North Korea’s nuclear program. It’s also behind their failure
WASHINGTON (AP) — Chinese middlemen launder the proceeds of North Korean hackers’ cyber heists while Chinese ships deliver sanctioned North Korean goods to Chinese ports.

Chinese companies help North Koreans workers — from cheap laborers to well-paid IT specialists — find work abroad. A Beijing art gallery even boasts of North Korean artists working 12-hour days in its heavily surveilled compound, churning out paintings of idyllic visions of life under communism that each sell for thousands of dollars.

That’s all part of what international authorities say is a growing mountain of evidence that shows Beijing is helping cash-strapped North Korea evade a broad range of international sanctions designed to hamper Pyongyang’s nuclear weapons program, according to an Associated Press review of United Nations reports, court records and interviews with experts.

“It’s overwhelming,” Aaron Arnold, a former member of a U.N. panel on North Korea and a sanctions expert at the Royal United Services Institute, said of the links between China and sanctions evasion. “At this point, it’s very hard to say it’s not intentional.” ...

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QUOTE((a_dot_el @ Jan 24 2025 @ 03:09 PM)
Where is the proof that Cisco has kill switch in it's equipment?
QUOTE(jibpek @ Jan 27 2025, 03:42 PM)
It happened to KLIA backed in Aug 2019

https://soyacincau.com/2019/08/23/klia-disr...ed/?form=MG0AV3  brows.gif
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Your soyacincau news link does not say Cisco used a kill switch to disrupt the KLIA operations.
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jan 27 2025, 04:04 PM)
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Your soyacincau news link does not say Cisco used a kill switch to disrupt the KLIA operations.
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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jan 27 2025, 04:21 PM)
it happened right after KLIA decided to change all Cisco to Huawei. And then suddenly kaboom  brows.gif

The management had no choice but to get Cisco to replace all those switches in a short timeframe.
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Fyi, .......

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/klia-network...ttle-text-block
KLIA Network Glitch - Final Case Study

Ts. Dr. Suresh Ramasamy CISSP,CISM,GCTI,GNFA,GCDA,CIPMTs. Dr. Suresh Ramasamy CISSP,CISM,GCTI,GNFA,GCDA,CIPM
Ts. Dr. Suresh Ramasamy CISSP,CISM,GCTI,GNFA,GCDA,CIPM
CISO | Chief Research Officer | Keynote Speaker | Board Member
Published Feb 15, 2023


In 2019, I wrote about the KLIA network glitch that affected the operations of the airport. The failure caused catastrophic failure which halted the airport operations. At that time, no details were available to confirm what actually happened.

I used my own experiences to related to the case and hypothesize what happened. Now, official details have emerged and this case study is now final, complete and factual. Read on to find out what actually happened.

The incident

The incident happened at 2019, but the issue was due to a request that happened in 2017. There is a hotel in the vicinity of the airport called Sama-Sama hotel. In October 2017, personnels of Sama-Sama hotel requested to connect the IPTV network (SSEKLIA2) to their ICT office. Note that the airport network infrastructure falls under the care of MAHB, naturally this request will go to MAHB. The request also carried a potential “Layer 2 multicast/routing issue”.

Come 11 July 2019, Sama-sama hotel personnel made another request to extend the VLAN 235 to SSHKILA, SSEKLIA1, SSEKLIA2. On 21 August 2019 8:15pm IT Division reported intermittent connection with TAMS (Total Airport Management System), at the Core Switch. An IT crisis was declared on 22 August 2019 at 3:00am, since the TAMS network was recovered (7 hours after the issue has been identified). TAMS network failure caused a cascading failure, affecting the Flight Information Management System, Flight Information Display System, Baggage Handling System, Gate Allocation System, Flight Data Processing System and the Immigration System.

A specialist team from Cisco came in to resolve the issue, enabling IGMP (Internet Group Multicast Protocol) to reduce the multicast. The migration to a new switch was also done. As part of the recovery process, MAHB ordered a N5K and N7k core switches.

Incident Assessment ....

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https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/case-study-k...ttle-text-block - Case study - KLIA airport glitch

Ts. Dr. Suresh Ramasamy - Published Sep 3, 2019

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Timeline

20 August 2019 - MAHB signed a MOU with Huawei on technology modernization.

21 August 2019 - KLIA/KLIA 2 reported system/technical issues affecting multiple systems in the airport. Initial news indicates a failure at the network equipment.

22 August 2019 - The Star reported that MAHB had informed that the situation will be resolved by 23 August 2019, as it has received new equipment to replace the existing ones and testing to be conducted on the same night.

23 August 2019 - MAHB updated their website (as at 6am) explaining that they are in the midst of stabilizing their system and had deployed additional buses to ferry the passengers to their respective terminals. ...

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jan 27 2025, 11:25 PM)
Not just KLIA..

Remember the Microsoft Outages That Struck Most Airports Worldwide?

Global Microsoft Outage Didn't Affect Most Of China
https://www.timesnownews.com/world/asia/glo...ticle-111870993

This Country Was Left Untouched By Biggest-Ever IT Outage
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/microsoft-o...ffected-6154041
Here’s why China was largely unaffected by Friday’s IT outage
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/heres-why-c...-it-outage.html
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Fyi, .......

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3g01y047pdo - How China swerved worst of global tech meltdown
20 July 2024

While most of the world was grappling with the blue screen of death on Friday, one country that managed to escape largely unscathed was China.

The reason is actually quite simple: CrowdStrike is hardly used there.

Very few organisations will buy software from an American firm that, in the past, has been vocal about the cyber-security threat posed by Beijing.

Additionally, China is not as reliant on Microsoft as the rest of the world. Domestic companies such as Alibaba, Tencent and Huawei are the dominant cloud providers.

So reports of outages in China, when they did come, were mainly at foreign firms or organisations. On Chinese social media sites, for example, some users complained they were not able to check into international chain hotels such as Sheraton, Marriott and Hyatt in Chinese cities. ...

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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jan 27 2025, 04:21 PM)
it happened right after KLIA decided to change all Cisco to Huawei. And then suddenly kaboom  brows.gif

The management had no choice but to get Cisco to replace all those switches in a short timeframe.
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Fyi, MAHB was still buying Cisco network switches in 2022, .......

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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jan 27 2025, 10:47 PM)
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Fyi, .......

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/klia-network...ttle-text-block
KLIA Network Glitch - Final Case Study

Ts. Dr. Suresh Ramasamy CISSP,CISM,GCTI,GNFA,GCDA,CIPMTs. Dr. Suresh Ramasamy CISSP,CISM,GCTI,GNFA,GCDA,CIPM
Ts. Dr. Suresh Ramasamy CISSP,CISM,GCTI,GNFA,GCDA,CIPM
CISO | Chief Research Officer | Keynote Speaker | Board Member
Published Feb 15, 2023


In 2019, I wrote about the KLIA network glitch that affected the operations of the airport. The failure caused catastrophic failure which halted the airport operations. At that time, no details were available to confirm what actually happened.

I used my own experiences to related to the case and hypothesize what happened. Now, official details have emerged and this case study is now final, complete and factual. Read on to find out what actually happened.

The incident

The incident happened at 2019, but the issue was due to a request that happened in 2017. There is a hotel in the vicinity of the airport called Sama-Sama hotel. In October 2017, personnels of Sama-Sama hotel requested to connect the IPTV network (SSEKLIA2) to their ICT office. Note that the airport network infrastructure falls under the care of MAHB, naturally this request will go to MAHB. The request also carried a potential “Layer 2 multicast/routing issue”.

Come 11 July 2019, Sama-sama hotel personnel made another request to extend the VLAN 235 to SSHKILA, SSEKLIA1, SSEKLIA2. On 21 August 2019 8:15pm IT Division reported intermittent connection with TAMS (Total Airport Management System), at the Core Switch. An IT crisis was declared on 22 August 2019 at 3:00am, since the TAMS network was recovered (7 hours after the issue has been identified). TAMS network failure caused a cascading failure, affecting the Flight Information Management System, Flight Information Display System, Baggage Handling System, Gate Allocation System, Flight Data Processing System and the Immigration System.

A specialist team from Cisco came in to resolve the issue, enabling IGMP (Internet Group Multicast Protocol) to reduce the multicast. The migration to a new switch was also done. As part of the recovery process, MAHB ordered a N5K and N7k core switches. 

Incident Assessment  ....

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https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/case-study-k...ttle-text-block - Case study - KLIA airport glitch

Ts. Dr. Suresh Ramasamy - Published Sep 3, 2019

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Timeline

20 August 2019 - MAHB signed a MOU with Huawei on technology modernization.

21 August 2019 - KLIA/KLIA 2 reported system/technical issues affecting multiple systems in the airport. Initial news indicates a failure at the network equipment.

22 August 2019 - The Star reported that MAHB had informed that the situation will be resolved by 23 August 2019, as it has received new equipment to replace the existing ones and testing to be conducted on the same night.

23 August 2019 - MAHB updated their website (as at 6am) explaining that they are in the midst of stabilizing their system and had deployed additional buses to ferry the passengers to their respective terminals. ...

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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jan 28 2025, 07:10 AM)
Your report doesn't prove Cisco innocent. What a coincidence, when they decided to switch the vendor, suddenly everything failed  brows.gif  brows.gif

Malaysia Airports lodges police report over KLIA systems disruption

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/489747
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MAHB's police report did not prove Cisco guilty.
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MAHB's MoU with Huawei in Aug 2019 did not prove that Huawei was replacing Cisco wrt network switches and equipment.
....... You, a typical wumao, is just speculating on the coincidents and making false accusations about Cisco using kill switches to disrupt KLIA operations just after MAHB had signed the MoU with Huawei.

AFAIK, Cisco was not a competitor of Huawei wrt the scope of works in the MoU, ie Ericsson and Nokia were more like Huawei's competitors wrt 4G and 5G mobile technology and equipment. .......

https://www.orissa-international.com/busine...4-0-initiative/ -
MAHB Collaborates with Huawei Technologies for Airports 4.0 Initiative
Sep 2019

.... The primary focus of the MOU was on the “Joint innovation on fully connected airport initiative” to strengthen the accessibility and efficiency via digitalization of airports operated by MAHB. Several initiatives include the study on the implementation wired network, Wi-Fi 6 technology, Digital Indoor Solution (DIS) 4G and future 5G technology use case in airports and IoT solutions for connectivity. Notably, it aims to establish a Fully Integrated Network Communication Managed platform to enable future big data analysis to further improving airport operation efficiency and reduce overall ICT cost. ...

https://businessmodelanalyst.com/cisco-business-model/
The Cisco business model focuses on selling networking equipment and other high-technology services to organizations and businesses. In the early days of Cisco, its business model was a little bit different from what it is today. Cisco used to focus only on providing networking hardware like routers and switches needed to connect computers within the same local area network (LAN). Now, Cisco’s business model has expanded to adapt to new technology trends, especially as businesses and organizations directly connect their networks to the internet, rather than using LANs. ...

Hardware Sales

Cisco generates money by selling networking hardware like switches, routers and wireless access points, security devices, collaboration equipment, and data center equipment. Currently, hardware sales generate more than 50% of Cisco’s revenue.

Licensing

Services ....

= The Cisco business model is quite different from Huawei's.
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post Jan 28 2025, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jan 28 2025, 07:10 AM)
Your report doesn't prove Cisco innocent. What a coincidence, when they decided to switch the vendor, suddenly everything failed  brows.gif  brows.gif

Malaysia Airports lodges police report over KLIA systems disruption

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/489747
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To recover from the KLIA disruption in Aug 2019, MAHB ordered a N5K and N7K core switches from Cisco. Why would MAHB do that if Cisco was guilty.?
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To recover from the KLIA disruption in Aug 2019, MAHB ordered a N5K and N7K core switches from Cisco. Why would MAHB do that if Cisco was guilty.?
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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jan 28 2025, 02:33 PM)
Because Cisco has the backup. which can restore in a short period of time.

Huawei has to replace everything, which will take months.

That is why Cisco used the kill switch.
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So, why was MAHB still buying Cisco network switches in 2022 with a maintenance contract of 12 months.? ......


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QUOTE((jibpek @ Jan 28 2025 @ 07:10 AM)
Your report doesn't prove Cisco innocent. What a coincidence, when they decided to switch the vendor, suddenly everything failed  brows.gif  brows.gif

Malaysia Airports lodges police report over KLIA systems disruption

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/489747
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After 3 years, who knows what had happened.
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Timeline

20 August 2019 - MAHB signed a MOU with Huawei on technology modernization.

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https://asianwirelesscomms.com/case-study-d...-digital-855598 - KL International Airport goes digital
10 April 2024

.... A fully connected fibre solution

Malaysia Airports turned to Huawei, which offered up its Fully Connected Fiber Network Solution - a reliable, agile, simplified, and green technology debuted in November 2023 - which has helped KLIA resolve all its pain points during digital transformation, laying a connectivity foundation for it to make the move from Airports 2.0 to Airports 4.0.

Huawei’s solution adopts an IP + DWDM dual-plane architecture. It capitalises on physical and logical service isolation to provide a highly reliable bearer of services for ATM authorities, airlines, and terminals. The router plane and WDM plane back each other up for cross-domain protection, meeting the lofty requirements of Malaysia Airports’ airlines and ATM authorities for reliable and secure networks.

Huawei’s Fully Connected Fiber Network Solution adopts GPON/XGS-PON technology at the access layer to realise natural Layer 2 isolation and avoid risks like network storms. It uses optical fibres instead of copper cables, which could only cover 100m at most. In addition, the solution features passive aggregation so that fewer ELV rooms are required, creating greener and more efficient airport operations.

The solution also brings with it a high degree of scalability, with no restrictions on bandwidth or distance; and cables do not need to be re-routed. This is because it supports flexible capacity expansion from GE to 10GE high-bandwidth networks. As Malaysia Airports enhances the specifications of its operational system, it needs an increasing number of smart terminals and higher bandwidth - NCE-IP delivers E2E services in one click, meeting the development requirements that will amount over the next 5-10 years.

With Huawei’s help, KLIA took just 4.5 months to migrate and upgrade the entire network; a vast improvement on what would usually be a 12-18 month endeavour. ...

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