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TSking99
post Jan 17 2025, 07:26 AM, updated 11 months ago

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I know some insurance doesn't cover suicide or self harm.

But what about situation where we can prevent the harm by just avoiding it.

For example, I saw a parang guy tried to rob and old lady, I intervened and end up got slashed. If I have not intervene and just call PDRM, I will not need to go to hospital.

Will insurance cover me for the injuries in trying to protect the lady ? Or won't cover it with justification I can avoid it.
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post Jan 17 2025, 07:46 AM

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I know mine won't cover injury from 'extreme sport'
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post Jan 17 2025, 07:57 AM

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extreme sport is a big no lol..
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post Jan 17 2025, 08:12 AM

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Most likely no, unfortunately. You got into a fight and got hurt, regardless of intention. If someone wrongly sought you out to parang instead, then possible to admit
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post Jan 17 2025, 08:42 AM

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As long as it is not extreme sports, illegal activities, you will be covered.
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post Jan 17 2025, 08:52 AM

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Well you don’t have to be truthful right? Just say accidental cut?
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post Jan 17 2025, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Jan 17 2025, 08:52 AM)
Well you don’t have to be truthful right? Just say accidental cut?
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In this case maybe got CCTV showing the entire attack.
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post Jan 17 2025, 10:07 AM

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Guys just FYI, I attended an insurance briefing, apparently now insurance won't cover if you attend competitive sports as well, except for running only.

Ie if you join badminton competition and you got injured, insurance won't cover you.
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post Jan 17 2025, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(ernie ball @ Jan 17 2025, 10:07 AM)
Guys just FYI, I attended an insurance briefing, apparently now insurance won't cover if you attend competitive sports as well, except for running only.

Ie if you join badminton competition and you got injured, insurance won't cover you.
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nama isurance
all for self interests only
they deserved to bankrap
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post Jan 17 2025, 10:33 AM

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They will try denying u the claim so prepare to battle for it lo
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Jan 17 2025, 10:29 AM)
nama isurance
all for self interests only
they deserved to bankrap
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Time to play Luigi Mansion.
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post Jan 17 2025, 10:59 AM

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Its always need to know everything in detail before sign .

Typical error when ppl sign buy don't know every detail of it
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post Jan 17 2025, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(ernie ball @ Jan 17 2025, 10:07 AM)
Guys just FYI, I attended an insurance briefing, apparently now insurance won't cover if you attend competitive sports as well, except for running only.

Ie if you join badminton competition and you got injured, insurance won't cover you.
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how is badminton 'extreme sport'?
how about play for fun, not competition?
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post Jan 17 2025, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(king99 @ Jan 17 2025, 07:26 AM)
I know some insurance doesn't cover suicide or self harm.

But what about situation where we can prevent the harm by just avoiding it.

For example, I saw a parang guy tried to rob and old lady, I intervened and end up got slashed. If I have not intervene and just call PDRM, I will not need to go to hospital.

Will insurance cover me for the injuries in trying to protect the lady ? Or won't cover it with justification I can avoid it.
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No

Must be accident for pa policies
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post Jan 17 2025, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(ernie ball @ Jan 17 2025, 10:07 AM)
Guys just FYI, I attended an insurance briefing, apparently now insurance won't cover if you attend competitive sports as well, except for running only.

Ie if you join badminton competition and you got injured, insurance won't cover you.
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Jan 17 2025, 10:29 AM)
nama isurance
all for self interests only
they deserved to bankrap
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jan 17 2025, 11:29 AM)
how is badminton 'extreme sport'?
how about play for fun, not competition?
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Sports injury during for-profit competition has always been under exclusion, at least for the PA products I'm aware of. If they say injury during normal friendly badminton game is not claimable then only you have a case to fight for. This is similar to let's say police hurt when fighting robbery, or firefighter burn injury during work, all of which are excluded under typical PA policies.

If you willing to commit fraud like one above suggested, then that is down to your character. I won't go further into that.
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post Jan 18 2025, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(king99 @ Jan 17 2025, 07:26 AM)
I know some insurance doesn't cover suicide or self harm.

But what about situation where we can prevent the harm by just avoiding it.

For example, I saw a parang guy tried to rob and old lady, I intervened and end up got slashed. If I have not intervene and just call PDRM, I will not need to go to hospital.

Will insurance cover me for the injuries in trying to protect the lady ? Or won't cover it with justification I can avoid it.
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In this case, most insurance will ask you to provide a police report. They wont cover if you were injured because you attack someone. They will cover if you were attacked. And if its gang related attack, I think wont cover.
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post Jan 18 2025, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(ernie ball @ Jan 17 2025, 10:07 AM)
Guys just FYI, I attended an insurance briefing, apparently now insurance won't cover if you attend competitive sports as well, except for running only.

Ie if you join badminton competition and you got injured, insurance won't cover you.
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That depends mostly on what insurance. Some have an extensive lists of sports that is considered "extreme". Although I think most will cover regular sporting event.

What they wont cover if you play as a full time professional. Semi pro, like you have an office job and not your full time job as a sportsmen should be okay.

I would be interested to know the insurance name that wont pay for competition sport.

This post has been edited by Steponlego: Jan 18 2025, 05:41 PM
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post Jan 18 2025, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jan 18 2025, 03:48 PM)
In this case, most insurance will ask you to provide a police report. They wont cover if you were injured because you attack someone. They will cover if you were attacked. And if its gang related attack, I think wont cover.
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What if you have nothing to do with the gang attack ?

Like you sitting on bench, 10 people from gang mistaken you for other people, they beat you up until need masuk ICU, got cover ?
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post Jan 18 2025, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(king99 @ Jan 18 2025, 05:26 PM)
What if you have nothing to do with the gang attack ?

Like you sitting on bench, 10 people from gang mistaken you for other people, they beat you up until need masuk ICU, got cover ?
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should cover. although it will be quite a headache for whoever issuing the guarantee letter. bruce.gif

but since you masuk ICU, probably unconscious, how can you make a police report? hmm.gif it's a catch-22 situation lol.
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post Jan 19 2025, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(ernie ball @ Jan 17 2025, 10:07 AM)
Guys just FYI, I attended an insurance briefing, apparently now insurance won't cover if you attend competitive sports as well, except for running only.

Ie if you join badminton competition and you got injured, insurance won't cover you.
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If after play badminton, kena heart attack, cover or not?



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