Hi guys, would like to get feedback and advise on my situation.

Recently i found a used car that i really liked on FB. Test drove it, and brought the car to a mechanic, everything seems ok so i proceeded to gave the seller a deposit of 2.5k.

then, few days ago, i had a family gathering and told my story to my relatives where 2 of the uncles who is a used car dealer gave advise to do SCRUT test before finalizing it.

lo and behold, found out that the report is very very suspicious where a lot of N/A on the fields. they guess that the seller just recently changed the car plate no, which is true considering the car plate no format. they said it's a major red flags. the VIN report also all returns N/A for the fields.

Uncles suggest me dont buy cus maybe the car got issue d, maybe banjir or accident, or repo, etc

my fault is that i thought my homework to buy used car is finished once i brought to a mechanic. didn't knew that SCRUT can be so important.

I then proceeded to call the seller the next day that i would like to cancel the deal, but mentioned that i have money issues instead, but the seller kept pressing to proceed with the balance as he has done the PUSPAKOM and thumbprint, used all of the 2.5k, and mentioning that i promised the seller to buy the car, etc etc.

Any advise here?

This post has been edited by alphacross: Jan 14 2025, 02:19 PM

just buy it la...aready pay depo,,u wont be getting it back......and thing can just proof u bought on that date....so previus watever happen not your bisness

I thought data from SCRUT only available when the car was involved in some kind of accident and performed insurance claims.

U are giving bad advise.

OP did u sign anything?

i dont even know wtf is SCRUT

No don't. 2.5k is chump change compared to a potential problematic car.

scrut is a way to see whether the car has been involved in any accidents/etc.

any website to check?

https://scrut.my/

that's why N/A as is not available is suspicious rather than yes/no. like the car has a new history or settle behind

This is the report for the car

compared to one of report my uncle did



didn't sign anything, all agreement is only spoken f2f, he took photo of my IC and driving license.


my mechanic uncle oso quoted if want to fix, prepare 5k budget to fix.

https://scrut.my/



This post has been edited by alphacross: Jan 14 2025, 02:39 PM

take that RM2.5k as tuition fees.

If gut feeling not right, then don't buy.

As for the deposit, seller can forfeit it as buyer change mind. Up to his generosity if he wants to return or not.

Btw, what does your B&W deposit agreement says about refund?

I was prepared to forfeit the deposit. still, it pains my heart deeply.
GPT mentioned that i can bring it to small claims court as the VIN and car plate no potential misrepresentation with malicious intent. not sure it's worth the hassle or not.

there's no B&W agreement signed, only verbal agreement made. he also took a photo of my IC and driving license for him to proceed with PUSPAKOM and his thumbprint. He also mentioned that he has used up all of the 2.5k for the processing fee.

I have not transferred the balance remaining nor made my thumbprint.

This post has been edited by alphacross: Jan 14 2025, 03:04 PM

Below 5k can go fight case n Small Claim Court. You got a good caaw via the scrut report discrepancy.

This post has been edited by JoeYoung: Jan 14 2025, 03:30 PM

I think runner fee + Puspakom is definitely less than 2,500

I don't know much about what seller needs to do but send for PUSPAKOM change of ownership only costs RM35 (after tax RM37.8) and JPJ another RM100 (100 or 200 I forgot).

what processing fee need 2.5k lol

You did brought the car to the mechanic right? They didn't see any fault correct?
You should check with Scrut why it's N/A.

shoudl have asked your relative first. gg

this car must be special, like modified car? :X

N/A means scrut dont have the data la..

what so suspicious about it.. and you dont even tell us what car model it is..

seller oso mentioned via WA bebas accident banjir. maybe can collect all evidence and fight

never bought a car before and didnt knew about this thing, i tot need to pay this that runner is expensive. now i know is cheaper than 2.5k


my uncle mechanic say nothing wrong, expected worn and torn parts for second hand car , just some sound on the below which need do replace steering rack, absorber, etc.
today called him up and told my situation, he say u shud have done more thorough home work, i can only tell u is it still can drive or not only
lemme try ask their CS

This post has been edited by alphacross: Jan 14 2025, 04:27 PM

my wife scolded me this one also, so ganjeong want to buy car but no ask relatives first aka the experts first.
not sure for others but it's special for me as it's my dream car since my high school.

This post has been edited by alphacross: Jan 14 2025, 04:28 PM

Just 1 question.

Imported car? Coz scrut for imported used cars only right?

not imported, it's a local car but no longer in production.

Scrut can be used on local car as well as my uncle showed me one of his report on one of his cars

This post has been edited by alphacross: Jan 14 2025, 04:34 PM

sounds like proton putra :X or satria GTI

Is ok. Buying used car is like this.
I've had bought 3 used cars and all work out fine for me. Just buy, pump petrol and drive. No repairs even needed.

How old car is the car?
Check with Scrut their data is until when?

nah it's a manual inspira XD

the car is manufactured at 2011.
Not sure with SCRUT, but at the end of the report there's a disclaimer mentioning "Please note that our accident and claim data is available starting from the year 2003 onwards."

This post has been edited by alphacross: Jan 14 2025, 05:00 PM

First of all, just cuz no info in whatever DB does not mean its problematic.

U just need decide if yr ok to burn 2.5k or risk buying it.

I only buy used cars all over 10yrs, up to 40yr old car. Not once check in scrut or whatever.

Physical checking is yr own due diligence.

You can bring your uncle to check again

You have TWO uncle on this field.... Yet you go search a car w/o consulting them first?

I had done the physical check and used checklist template online on how to buy a used car. All seems good but only 1 thing. Initially i had smell a humid, wet smell, like not fresh air smell when i go inside the car. I thought maybe this guy want to let go of his car so he didnt use the car so frequent. After story to my uncle, he say high risk the smell come from banjir car.

Getting the SCRUT report done just heighten my suspicion

My both mechanic uncle and used car dealer uncle highly advised me to not buy d, let the 2.5k be ur tuition fee 🥲


I felt hesistant because i didn’t want to trouble my uncles who are also busy with their work d. But now my uncles said to me better call them next time when i want to buy used car again

I would just proceed and ignore the scrut report.
Buy warranty insurance if u worried. iinm its around 1K/year. ask the dealer about used car warranty insurance.

Btw have u contacted scrut why the report is N/A ?

Kinda scam if they sell report but N/A because no data or unknown?

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Jan 14 2025, 08:51 PM

2.5k lesson not too bad la ..... next time no matter what if you have any relative that could give professional opinion should seek them first. Unless relation is rly bad no uncle would just cup your phone for some question.

Btw ur mechanic uncle duno how to check the car? they say dont buy because u told them about the scrut report or after they checked the car?

Lets not talk about "uncles" as we dont know their knowledge, or credentials, experience.

Then before the next payment, go and check the lowest parts of the interior for damness, rust, etc.

Tip: take off the floor mats, remove the plastic sill to allow access to lift up part of the main carpet just a little bit. If the baremetal is clean and devoid of ANY dust, then you contemplate if the previous owner(s) are so rajin to take out big carpet & perform baremetal cleaning or its result of alot of water washing it clean.

Thus once again, the question if u ok to burn the 2.5k or commit to any issues the car may have in your future ownership.

This post has been edited by Chrix: Jan 14 2025, 09:22 PM

If the car pass puspakom test and u like it then just proceed.

Sorry to say ur uncles or whatever potato relatives are not any better. All used car dealers tampered something. It’s whether it’s caught or not.

All u need to do is run a service check on the entire car. What brand is it? Can go to Service centre for last service information and do the service there. They will flag any inappropriate items or faults.

Send for inspection again lor
now so many
sifu david
prestige car
shupom

pay a small fee for peace of mind
dun belip all those uncle uncle

Ask scrut first why or what is NA. U already paid for the report so NA is unacceptable.

Since its your dream car, maybe try for a second inspection to really check the condition.

scrut just one tool to help you decide before buying, not perfect.
proper inspection would be better.

I have contacted their support, but still no reply yet from CS


I brought the car to my uncle for inspection first, then made the deal with the seller. Then next day my other uncles told me to do SCRUT.


there's a rust on the pipes under the car, throughout the pipe around between the front wheels connecting to the back wheels, i thought it's just dirt or mud, or its normal as it's an old car.

EDIT: OH, another weird thing is the boot carpet is gone and the wood covering the boot is a bit warped.

it's proton, but the seller mentioned after the warranty period, then do outside workshop d.

i thinking of making peace with the 2.5k d, dont want to deal with the seller d.

This post has been edited by alphacross: Jan 14 2025, 11:54 PM

asked their support, no reply via WA yet


i planning to make peace d and let go d

I tried to call and reason with the seller hoping i can get back some of the deposit. he mentioned i die die need to transfer the balance to his account, cannot cancel, he said that i promised with the deal d, and he said that he used up his money and time to process the the puspakom and his thumb print

This post has been edited by alphacross: Jan 14 2025, 11:02 PM

I kena from Otofacts, where b4 buying report it says my car is low spec, and the car im buying is mid-spec. i was so anxious that time, tot its accident car and they buy mid-spec parts to upgrade it. after buying the report, otofact say its mid-spec from the factory.

I think a mechanic should be able to tell a second hand car is ok or not, regardless of what values the scrut give u/them.

I personally trust mechanic than scrut N/A value.. unless scrut explictly say YES on certain parts. N/A means they don't have the data.

have u talk to the seller about this scrut report?

This post has been edited by NoobHacker: Jan 14 2025, 11:44 PM

also its a proton inspira right

just go proton SC with the number plate and check its service history la.. or check whether did any major bodywork repairs or not as well..

Cant believe you have 2 "uncles" who supposed to be "experienced" until simple thing like this also they never tell you..

and Scrut is not the be all end all, especially for local cars. I find their report on local cars is often lacking. Which explains why yours also show N/A. It just means they dont have any record for it, not that its a confirm red flag or whatever..

This post has been edited by Optizorb: Jan 14 2025, 11:39 PM

i believe seller meant he spend all money already ..maybe plan to sell this car and DP for new 1

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Jan 14 2025, 11:46 PM

No, i didnt talk about the SCRUT report. I purchased another report on jomcheck, it has NO instead of the N/A, but the chassis no is not shown.


I think it's my fault where i didnt tell them im planning to buy a used car before, i only told them after i paid 2.5k to the seller
EDIT: OH, another weird thing is the boot carpet is gone and the wood covering the boot is a bit warped.

I think so, i saw his FB posting again to bump his listing and actually he might be a dealer instead of a owner as i saw multiple listing from him.



One thing im scared is will i get into trouble for not proceeding with the agreement even though im ok with the 2.5k gone? he said that cannot cancel, i die die need to transfer the remaining balance to him.

This post has been edited by alphacross: Jan 14 2025, 11:54 PM

no la i dont think he can force u like that. 2.5k is deposit, means u ffk then u forfeit it. if he is a dealer, can try check their shop fb/google review if it helps.

i feel u should trust mechanic more than your uncle, what do they say now jomcheck says NO instead of N/A? are they really professional experienced kind (been dealer for many many years) or just kopitiam uncle (talk story kind)

another thing u can do is check the history with proton SC with the carplate.

This post has been edited by NoobHacker: Jan 14 2025, 11:58 PM

what i meant is he's a private dealer not under a company, but buy and sells multiple cars under him.

actually the used car dealer uncle bought the JomCheck report for me, he mentioned that it's still weird cus the chassis no is not there, but all of the other sample report he got has it.

He storied me he found another case that there are stolen no plate where the car plate is on 2 different cars, so he might used a copy plate.

most used car dealer i know can check a car with their eyes and able to know a lot after a test drive. im not sure how your uncle rely on those reports so much, especially non of those report says yes on anything. its up to you on that deposit, i dont think the seller can 'force' you to buy it.

if you want to give up the deposit, make sure ur uncle can find u a good car. dont forfeit the deposit then u have to find again and you find another car that gives similar results on scrut report.

This post has been edited by NoobHacker: Jan 15 2025, 12:07 AM

Eh, what's done is done, TS. Not like it's the end of the world tho. as long as the engine/drivetrain works and no rust affects the frame that it's detrimental to the safety/structure, you'd be good to go!

You mentioned yourself it's a dream car that you aspire to have, so now you're in the way of getting one, what's a few more K's to make sure it drives and performs well, eh?

I just recently owned an old carb car as a backup transport.. which happened to be one of the cars I've been eyeballed during my youth! so while I could've done better and some know-how on the inspection, as long as one doesn't exceed and put a burden on him/herself, you're good to go, IMHO

PM me the plate number

I help you to check

If you think the plate is replaced, get me the chassis or engine number

I'm not in the expert of car, but talking about deposit things.

According to Malaysia law, KPDN/Tribunal can help your problem if you want refund from him.

But since you haven't pay him/her anything, is okay to cancel your deal.

Even you did pay, with Tribunal, you can get back partial amount of whatever PUSPAKOM/Runner Fee spent etc.

Want full amount can go file small claim court, no lawyer needed. Need pay some registration fee and you are good to go.