remove subsidy then can remove car taxes ?
BREAK : CHINA TOYOTA 2024 1.5 corolla RM45k, with up to 20k incentive Upon trade in
BREAK : CHINA TOYOTA 2024 1.5 corolla RM45k, with up to 20k incentive Upon trade in
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Dec 20 2024, 10:52 AM
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remove subsidy then can remove car taxes ?
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Dec 20 2024, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(Bill888 @ Dec 20 2024, 03:03 AM) Chinese consumers are turning to Chinese EV because better. Better fuel, better ride. So Japanese cars no more popular, that's why prices dropped so much. Imagine, you realise you need less than half the cost to run the car every month. QUOTE(70U63 @ Dec 20 2024, 10:48 AM) Coz majority of the 'local made' Japanese cars are JV between JP & CCP companies. .Support those local made Japanese cars = support local industries also (including whole supply chains). At the end, the products must be competitive. But there are many amdk butthurt here....keep screaming CCP bagi duit to the people. CCP suppose to be collapsed, mana ada duit bagi ppl lagi... I just came back from CCP land, i seriously don't see how corolla is 'good' enough unless they price it at very competitive price. Too many good CCP's NEV cars on the market (including those high end premium cars). Fyi, ie many CCP China BEV cars are not safe to drive in terms of NCAP Rating, besides being like time-bombs or spontaneous explosives. Also, many CCP China products are poor quality, not safe and are fake/copies, eg fake milk, fake beef, gutter oil, toxic foods/drinks, fake walls, fake grass, fake tablets/microSD cards, fake iPhones, etc, ....... https://afma.org.au/neta-v-rated-0-stars-di...ays-asean-ncap/ - NETA V rated 0 stars, “disappointing performance” says ASEAN NCAP - Dec 2024 The NETA V was rated 0 stars by the ASEAN NCAP during its safety test last November 2024. NETA V, also known as the NETA Aya, was released by electric vehicle company, NETA Auto in 2020. Tested at Malaysia’s MIROS Provisional CRASE Crash Centre, this EV was the first to receive a 0-star rating under the organisation’s 2021-2025 protocol. Currently, the vehicle is available in Malaysia, Brunei, Indonesia, and Thailand. ... . |
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Dec 20 2024, 02:09 PM
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mehsia wait long long bruh
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Dec 20 2024, 02:10 PM
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Lol Remove ap all car price drop by 20k.
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Dec 20 2024, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Dec 19 2024, 11:16 PM) . Fyi, ....... https://auto.sina.cn/info/cx/2024-12-17/det...s8914911.d.html - Google Translated: It has enough space, great handling, and can be as cheap as 41,500 yuan. Wouldn’t you like a Toyota Corolla like this? - 17 Dec 2024 = 35% off MSRP or 35% discount. Even Nissan Sylphy is 33% off MSRP and Honda Civic is 21% off MSRP in CCP China. Why new ICE-V cars all lelong sale.? ... = because in the 7 Tier-1 cities like Shanghai, buyers of new ICE-V cars have to pay about RMB100k for the license plate fee and wait >6 months for registration. ... In Tier-3 cities, it's about RMB30k and >2 months, respectively. ....... Buyers of new NEV cars are exempted. On top of that, nearly all used ICE-V cars have to be scrapped bc CCP China just introduced more stringent annual car inspection (macam by Puspakom/JPJ) for 6 yo or older cars in Jan 2024(.?), in order to purposely fail them or scrap them, eg any failure detection via OBD, eg sensor failure = fail inspection. ....... Used ICE-V cars <6 yo = car inspection every 2 years. If you are man in China, you dare to buy the above discounted new ICE-V cars. . QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 20 2024, 10:31 AM) If Japan carmaker produce and sell EV there in chyna will enjoy the same subsidy as well as the CCP carmakers right? .Did they discriminate non CCP carmaker even produce EV wont enjoy their subsidy or reduce subsidy? Sounds like they even more fairer than european and US legislation Fyi, the center of this world is not CCP China, as desired by Emperor Xi and as self-claimed by the China Dynasty from 2nd century BC onward - Middle Kingdom = 中国 . Japanese automakers like Toyota still sells millions of ICE-V cars around the world, eg in USA, Europe, Asia Pacific, etc, ... even though it's ICE-V car sales has dwindled in CCP China due to CCP's pro-EV policies/mandates. So, Japan's Toyota does not yet need to kowtow to Emperor Xi's EV money scam. ....... https://www.focus2move.com/world-car-group-ranking/ World Car Group Ranking in 2024 is dominated by Toyota Group (-2.1%), which kept a lead on the runner-up Volkswagen Group (-1.6%). BYD surged 39.8% in year-to-date volume. In this article we report on the global ranking of car manufacturers considered as a group, aggregating sales done for each brand owned by the same group. Looking at cumulative sales up to October 2024 the leader was Toyota Group, with 8,56 million vehicles (-2.1%), retaining a wide margin over all other competitors. The second was Volkswagen Group with 6,85 million sales (-1.6%). Growth in America (+8.9%) and Europe (+2.7%) was outweighted by losses in Asia (-9.4%). In third place, Hyundai-Kia recorded 5,65 million sales with a decline of 3.1%. Overall performance was negative, with significant drops in Africa (-18%), Asia (-5.7%). Renault Nissan Alliance grew 1 spot, ranking in 4th and reporting 5 million sales while growing 1%, mainly sustained in Europe (+4.6%) and Oceania (+7.7%). General Motors gained 1 spot and ranked in 5th place with 4,76 million sales (-4.9%). It lost volume in Asia (-12.7%) and America (-0.5%); however it also reported strong gains in Europe (+36.6%). In 6th position, Stellantis -down 2 spots- reported 4,74 million sales (-8.1%), down 9.6% in America and 9.3% in Europe. Honda Motor followed in 7th, with 3,18 million new sales (-2.9%) despite losing 11.8% in Asia, while Ford Group ranked in 8th with 3,09 million units sold (-0.4%), growing 4.8% in America but losing 3.6% in Asia and 14.4% in Europe. In 9th place, BYD climbed one spot and reported 2,95 million sales. With a 35.6% increase in volume compared to the prior year, it reported one of the best performances in the top 30. The company achieved extraordinary growth in the Americas (+422%) and Europe (+232%). Closing the top 10, Suzuki dropped one spot and ranked in 10th with 2,64 million registrations (+3.9%), sustaining losses in America (-9.6%) but growing in Europe (+14.5%). ... . |
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Dec 20 2024, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 20 2024, 03:22 PM) . Wow. I asking simple question only.Fyi, the center of this world is not CCP China, as desired by Emperor Xi and as self-claimed by the China Dynasty from 2nd century BC onward - Middle Kingdom = 中国 . Japanese automakers like Toyota still sells millions of ICE-V cars around the world, eg in USA, Europe, Asia Pacific, etc, ... even though it's ICE-V car sales has dwindled in CCP China due to CCP's pro-EV policies/mandates. So, Japan's Toyota does not yet need to kowtow to Emperor Xi's EV money scam. ....... https://www.focus2move.com/world-car-group-ranking/ World Car Group Ranking in 2024 is dominated by Toyota Group (-2.1%), which kept a lead on the runner-up Volkswagen Group (-1.6%). BYD surged 39.8% in year-to-date volume. In this article we report on the global ranking of car manufacturers considered as a group, aggregating sales done for each brand owned by the same group. Looking at cumulative sales up to October 2024 the leader was Toyota Group, with 8,56 million vehicles (-2.1%), retaining a wide margin over all other competitors. The second was Volkswagen Group with 6,85 million sales (-1.6%). Growth in America (+8.9%) and Europe (+2.7%) was outweighted by losses in Asia (-9.4%). In third place, Hyundai-Kia recorded 5,65 million sales with a decline of 3.1%. Overall performance was negative, with significant drops in Africa (-18%), Asia (-5.7%). Renault Nissan Alliance grew 1 spot, ranking in 4th and reporting 5 million sales while growing 1%, mainly sustained in Europe (+4.6%) and Oceania (+7.7%). General Motors gained 1 spot and ranked in 5th place with 4,76 million sales (-4.9%). It lost volume in Asia (-12.7%) and America (-0.5%); however it also reported strong gains in Europe (+36.6%). In 6th position, Stellantis -down 2 spots- reported 4,74 million sales (-8.1%), down 9.6% in America and 9.3% in Europe. Honda Motor followed in 7th, with 3,18 million new sales (-2.9%) despite losing 11.8% in Asia, while Ford Group ranked in 8th with 3,09 million units sold (-0.4%), growing 4.8% in America but losing 3.6% in Asia and 14.4% in Europe. In 9th place, BYD climbed one spot and reported 2,95 million sales. With a 35.6% increase in volume compared to the prior year, it reported one of the best performances in the top 30. The company achieved extraordinary growth in the Americas (+422%) and Europe (+232%). Closing the top 10, Suzuki dropped one spot and ranked in 10th with 2,64 million registrations (+3.9%), sustaining losses in America (-9.6%) but growing in Europe (+14.5%). ... . If Japanese automaker make and assemble EV to be sold in Chyna, do they enjoy the same subsidy as other chinese automaker? End up type so much but my question not answered… This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Dec 20 2024, 02:43 PM |
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Dec 20 2024, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 20 2024, 02:07 PM) . Anehneh you so outdated. 😅Fyi, ie many CCP China BEV cars are not safe to drive in terms of NCAP Rating, besides being like time-bombs or spontaneous explosives. Also, many CCP China products are poor quality, not safe and are fake/copies, eg fake milk, fake beef, gutter oil, toxic foods/drinks, fake walls, fake grass, fake tablets/microSD cards, fake iPhones, etc, ....... https://afma.org.au/neta-v-rated-0-stars-di...ays-asean-ncap/ - NETA V rated 0 stars, “disappointing performance” says ASEAN NCAP - Dec 2024 The NETA V was rated 0 stars by the ASEAN NCAP during its safety test last November 2024. NETA V, also known as the NETA Aya, was released by electric vehicle company, NETA Auto in 2020. Tested at Malaysia’s MIROS Provisional CRASE Crash Centre, this EV was the first to receive a 0-star rating under the organisation’s 2021-2025 protocol. Currently, the vehicle is available in Malaysia, Brunei, Indonesia, and Thailand. ... . |
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proton and perodua
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Dec 20 2024, 03:28 PM
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their discount is not like few thousand price slashed 40,000RMB? dafuq..... |
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Dec 20 2024, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 20 2024, 02:43 PM) Wow. I asking simple question only. .If Japanese automaker make and assemble EV to be sold in Chyna, do they enjoy the same subsidy as other chinese automaker? End up type so much but my question not answered… Fyi, ie Toyota's mindset wrt the EV push, ....... https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/electri...rvertelemetry=1 - Electric cars will NEVER dominate the market, Toyota says - Jan 2024 ....He said the remaining 70 percent of vehicles would include other types of greener vehicles, but added: 'Engine cars will definitely remain. I think this is something that customers and the market will decide, not regulatory values or political power.' Pushing back against the focus on battery EVs at the expense of alternatives, Toyoda said: 'The enemy is CO2. So, let's all think about reducing CO2.' Governments around the world are pressing drivers to ditch petrol and diesel cars in favour of electric alternatives in a bid to hit climate targets. ... = EV is a CCP China money scam to overthrow ICE-V technology which has been dominated for decades by Western and Japanese automakers. . Remember the Covid-19 Scamdemic when governments foolishly mandated travel bans/MCO, social distancing, face masks, quarantines, PCR/RTK tests, Covid vaccine jabs, etc.? = many businesses went bankrupt, many people became jobless and some people even committed suicide. . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Dec 20 2024, 03:58 PM |
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Dec 20 2024, 05:10 PM
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Someone kuat rage forgot to get his head checked.
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Dec 20 2024, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 20 2024, 02:43 PM) Wow. I asking simple question only. That guy is mentally cacat wan. No matter what you reply, he will start of with fyi..... afaik..... then continue to plaster a long post of dubious, irrelevant article then change the color, fonts, bold here bold there. But never really answer the question. If Japanese automaker make and assemble EV to be sold in Chyna, do they enjoy the same subsidy as other chinese automaker? End up type so much but my question not answered… |
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